Downgrade from Pie - Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers

I updated to Pie and I hate it. I want to go back to the latest updated version of Oreo just before the Pie upgrade. I'm with Telstra in Australia and can only find the Oreo version form Telstra from September 2017. Is it possible to install that version and apply updates right up just before Pie?

Are you concerned that factory images that do not list a specific carrier or region are not suitable for installation on a Telestra device? For example, 8.1.0 (OPM2.171026.006.G1, Jul 2018) does not call out a region or carrier. The initial Pixel 2 factory image and several later images do not list a carrier or region.
Perhaps you can back up your current install, try the November 2018, and see you like it better. If not, attempt to downgrade to 8.1.0 (OPM2.171026.006.G1, Jul 2018). If the downgrade fails, reinstall your 9.0 backup.
For what it's worth, I have not done this and recommend searching the forum for people who have tried to downgrade: https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2/help/to-downgrade-android-9-0-t3850398
Hope this helps somewhat.

kotton666 said:
I updated to Pie and I hate it. I want to go back to the latest updated version of Oreo just before the Pie upgrade. I'm with Telstra in Australia and can only find the Oreo version form Telstra from September 2017. Is it possible to install that version and apply updates right up just before Pie?
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Pie was released in October. The September update would be the most recent image for Oreo. You can install it but if you do, you won't be able to update your phone again. All future updates will be Pie. What I'm saying is you won't be able to install future updates without installing the Pie update first. There is no more Oreo after September.

Yeah I'm not interested in upgrading any further than the last Oreo version. So many features of pie are just not to my liking. I can't back up my current install because I haven't unlocked my bootloader or rooted yet. Mainly because Oreo was so good there was no real reason for me to bother. Now I'm forced to, to get rid of this terrible version of android.

kotton666 said:
Yeah I'm not interested in upgrading any further than the last Oreo version. So many features of pie are just not to my liking. I can't back up my current install because I haven't unlocked my bootloader or rooted yet. Mainly because Oreo was so good there was no real reason for me to bother. Now I'm forced to, to get rid of this terrible version of android.
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What I think @robocuff means is that you will not receive any security patches going forward. All subsequent patches will be for Pie only.

grumpygoof said:
What I think @robocuff means is that you will not receive any security patches going forward. All subsequent patches will be for Pie only.
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Yeah I understand that. That's why I wanted to get the latest Oreo before pie so I was as up to date as possible. I don't care about updating any further. I just want a decent ROM, which in my opinion, Pie is far from.
Thanks for the input guys.

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Updates for 6.0.1 without installing 7.0

I had installed Nougat as soon as it was available for my S7 and never really liked the battery life. Maybe I could have tried to fix it but instead I downgraded back to 6.0.1 through Odin.
So far every thing is fine. But the first and only update that I received is the 7.0 upgrade again. Ofcourse I didn't install it this time. But it looks like I'm not getting any other updates or patches now.
When I look at the Security patch level, that is from Dec. 2016.
I think I don't get any updates for 6.0.1 now because the is an upgrade waiting to be downloaded and installed.
Is that how it works or am I missing something.
Thanks.
Baklin said:
I had installed Nougat as soon as it was available for my S7 and never really liked the battery life. Maybe I could have tried to fix it but instead I downgraded back to 6.0.1 through Odin.
So far every thing is fine. But the first and only update that I received is the 7.0 upgrade again. Ofcourse I didn't install it this time. But it looks like I'm not getting any other updates or patches now.
When I look at the Security patch level, that is from Dec. 2016.
I think I don't get any updates for 6.0.1 now because the is an upgrade waiting to be downloaded and installed.
Is that how it works or am I missing something.
Thanks.
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Install the last (newest) 6.0.1 ROM, and that is the last update you will get for it, it's not like Windows
If you want to stay up to date with security updates you MUST be running the latest available ROM, which is 7.0
Thanks.
I have the latest rom I could find. And was hoping I would get at least the latest security updates for 6.0.1.
Looks like I will have an other look at 7.0 again soon.
Baklin said:
Thanks.
I have the latest rom I could find. And was hoping I would get at least the latest security updates for 6.0.1.
Looks like I will have an other look at 7.0 again soon.
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Nope, mobile OS's are discontinued once a new major OS version is released
iOS/WP/Android all the same

Is Android 9 Pie worth it? Still on 8.1 Aug here

I've a TA-1055 in the UK and haven't had an update since the August security patch 8.1.
I know others have the Android 9 update but I'm still waiting for the OTA to arrive. There are some features I like in the latest version but there are plenty of posts on here about problems and how to rollback to 8.1.
Like with every version if updates go smoothly and all working fine then yes updating is always recommended but Pie still seems buggy over all.
Is it worth upgrading yet?
SlinkyMalinky said:
I've a TA-1055 in the UK and haven't had an update since the August security patch 8.1.
I know others have the Android 9 update but I'm still waiting for the OTA to arrive. There are some features I like in the latest version but there are plenty of posts on here about problems and how to rollback to 8.1.
Like with every version if updates go smoothly and all working fine then yes updating is always recommended but Pie still seems buggy over all.
Is it worth upgrading yet?
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Don't know if it is worth upgrading. I am also in UK on TA-1055 Oreo 8.1 but Oct security patch which came OTA. Still no sign of OTA update to 9 and HMD support is useless regarding info about UK versions getting it. They keep saying it takes time to roll out.
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There's some problem in update which is making device more buggy so wait else your condition will be like us...
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No real issues on mine, very happy with Pie.
But as this forum shows, YMMV.
No issues whatsoever on Pie, here. The only problem I have with the phone right now is that the brightness doesn't go below 16%, which isn't related to the Pie update, according to reddit.
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I have an issue with camera... When taking a photo and trying to view it from within the app... the camera app just stop responding...
I did not have this issue on Oreo.
T-1046 Running pie with Nov update...
MatthiasDS said:
No real issues on mine, very happy with Pie.
But as this forum shows, YMMV.
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azizmulhim said:
I have an issue with camera... When taking a photo and trying to view it from within the app... the camera app just stop responding...
I did not have this issue on Oreo.
T-1046 Running pie with Nov update...
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not have this problem with 3.39b on ta-1046
Not worth it if you like being a maybe semi newbie super user with this, because after it you'll become an iSheep.
As with any new phone I always disable most of the stock Google apps from the start. Just thought I'd re-enable the main Google app and reboot into safe mode.
Bosh! Now I get the update notification for Android 9 and ran the install plus received all the latest security updates.
Main instant issue on Pie is the search bar that cannot be removed without using a new launcher or rooting..Bugger
OTA Pie arrived on my UK TA-1055
Just to note that I got the OTA Pie update here in the UK on a TA-1055 last night. I was on 8.1.0 August before that.
It came through with the November security update, the December update came through straight after.
All seems to be working fine with no factory reset or out like that.
No issues with mine, but nothing to write home about either. Android 9.0 is meh in general. Don't stress so much about it.
I upgraded from Oreo w/ Oct SP to Pie w/ Dec SP. Is it worth the upgrade? I'll let the Pie battery stats speak for itself ? (n.b. I fully wiped /data by factory reset from recovery then restored from Google cloud backup).

Security Updates?

I was wondering what happened to security updates? My OnePlus 6 is still on security patch level from January 1st and it is the end of April. Is there something I could do to get regular security updates? Maybe a custom rom or something?
[email protected] said:
I was wondering what happened to security updates? My OnePlus 6 is still on security patch level from January 1st and it is the end of April. Is there something I could do to get regular security updates? Maybe a custom rom or something?
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Open beta gets regular security updates.
Oh, I didn't know that. Thanks!
It is a bit unfortunate that you have to go to a potentially unstable version of the os to get regular security updates.
Stable OOS 9.0.5 might be available in 1-2 weeks I guess...?
So open betas or custom roms are an option for you to get the latest security updates.

Is it possible to get monthly security patch without updating to One UI?

The S8+ G955W is not able to root and I need call recorder plus I like to theme it with Andromeda, so I decide that I am not going to update to One UI. However, the security patch of Oreo only updated to January, is there anyway to get the March security patch which comes with the Pi update? And how about the future patches?
acwcanada said:
The S8+ G955W is not able to root and I need call recorder plus I like to theme it with Andromeda, so I decide that I am not going to update to One UI. However, the security patch of Oreo only updated to January, is there anyway to get the March security patch which comes with the Pi update? And how about the future patches?
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You can root. look up jrkruse edl safestrap
As for updates no you can't
TheMadScientist said:
You can root. look up jrkruse edl safestrap
As for updates no you can't
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Are those really root? Is the bootloader unlocked? Can I install Magisk or Supersu? I believe the answers are no, no and no. And if I have to stay with Nougat then what date of the security patch we are talking about? I appreciate of your suggestion but it just doesn't make sense to me.
acwcanada said:
Are those really root? Is the bootloader unlocked? Can I install Magisk or Supersu? I believe the answers are no, no and no. And if I have to stay with Nougat then what date of the security patch we are talking about? I appreciate of your suggestion but it just doesn't make sense to me.
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The bootloader it's locked yes but with safestrap you can at least install a rooted nougat image. Its either that or update to pie to get the latest security patches. Its one or the other. There are several threads on rooting and safestrap for bit 5 U models. I think the last night l nougat patch it decent 2017 maybe jan 2018.

Android Security Updates

Hello there,
I'm using a custom rom based on Nougat. Everything is good, but I have concerns about security. I know that Nougat is discountinued now and most people have moved to Oreo or even better Pie. Last security update was in 2018 and then was abandoned, those security updates I haven't got on my device can affect me? Can I still try by myself to install the latest security updates manually?
Tommytommy1234 said:
Hello there,
I'm using a custom rom based on Nougat. Everything is good, but I have concerns about security. I know that Nougat is discountinued now and most people have moved to Oreo or even better Pie. Last security update was in 2018 and then was abandoned, those security updates I haven't got on my device can affect me? Can I still try by myself to install the latest security updates manually?
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No, you would need to build the ROM yourself each month with the new security updates in it.
Where do I find them?
IronRoo said:
No, you would need to build the ROM yourself each month with the new security updates in it.
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Should I decide I would like to build a new ROM where would I find the Updates?
I just purchased a new device, dual SIM 4G LTE with Android 9.0 using a BDF-X20 rom. It ships with Android Sec Update 5 May 2018 and the vendor says there will be no updates. 19 months out of date is a little much in my opinion.

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