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[Q] Disappointed with the battery life... :(

Hi folks - this is the first thread I have started, hence requesting the non-noobs to go easy on me... (this forum is a scary-kind-of-cool)
I mustered up the courage to install Infused 1.5.0 on my stock... the instructions were superb and everything went great... really enjoying the improved speed and looks. But my battery life has degraded. It has been more than a week since I flashed my phone - and it is only getting worse. Now I have read a lot about how Infused is getting great battery life for some folks... and i have gone through those threads, trying to figure out what I am doing wrong. This is my typical usage profile
1) I put the phone on charging before I go to sleep... when I wake up (around 7 AM) it is fully charged.
2) I quickly check overnight messages, finish the daily ablutions, and 30 min later when I check the phone it is already at 95%.
3) By 10 AM, I have made a few long phone calls (no bluetooth) (totalling 60-90 minutes) - and the battery is down to 75%
4) At work I use a bluetooth A2DP headset - maybe 30-40 min of calls and by 12 I am at 50%.
5) More calls in the afternoon, intermitted mail checking and sometimes 30-40 minutes of music streaming on my bluetooth headset - and by 6 PM my phone is down to critical level 12-15%.
This is in now way the same experience that others are having with the Infused ROM and with the Infuse phone in general.
Other points:
6) I run Juice Defender... (don't know if it helps)
7) My screen brightness is just a few notches over 0%
8) My data is always on - except when I am using Wifi of course
9) I turn bluetooth off when I am not using it
So that's the story guys... and I would eternally grateful if the awesome folks out here can help me figure out what I am doing wrong... or there is some logic behind the sad battery life of what is otherwise the best phone that I have ever owned.

It depends how long Infused has been running on your system. After about 3 days I noticed my phone was adjusting to the ROM and the battery life improved significantly. Aside from that, try this trick. Drain your battery next to nothing and then charge all the way. Do this a couple of times. Not quite sure about the logistics but it seems to work. Another thing that has improved my battery life is to make sure I don't have background apps running. You can check this by going into apps > manage apps > and then running. Sometimes Media Hub will begin a background process and that eats up a whopping 8 MBs alone. Force close these pointless background apps and you should see an improvement there as well.

have you conditioned the battery and reset battery stats?

popesmasseuse said:
It depends how long Infused has been running on your system. After about 3 days I noticed my phone was adjusting to the ROM and the battery life improved significantly. Aside from that, try this trick. Drain your battery next to nothing and then charge all the way. Do this a couple of times. Not quite sure about the logistics but it seems to work. Another thing that has improved my battery life is to make sure I don't have background apps running. You can check this by going into apps > manage apps > and then running. Sometimes Media Hub will begin a background process and that eats up a whopping 8 MBs alone. Force close these pointless background apps and you should see an improvement there as well.
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Thanks popesmasseuse (you really aren't are you?)... the ROM has been running now for a week... gets worse rather than better. I do typically wait for my battery to drain completely before I charge it... but when I do have to do it at 7 PM - then I can never charge it fully, before I have to start using it again. I wonder if the fact that my phone goes through "micro charges" is a reason for my declining battery life...
Will check the running apps... and see if closing them improves things... thanks!

Fact: Installing a ROM greatly improves battery life... Try it....
Turn of GPS and Bluetooth when not in use.
Same here I uninstalled media hub... period... just useless...

Phone calls are a pretty heavy battery drain. Sounds like you're in call for hours each day. Most people don't talk on the phone more than a few minutes a day. Poor signal will also significantly reduce your battery life... how many bars you usually have at work?

My battery life got better the longer I had the infused ROM. But personally I only talk on the phone maybe a total of an hour each day, but I am constantly using internet and youtube, and if I have spare time I'm using my Kindle app to read some books. I keep my GPS, sync, and wifi on all day long and my brightness all the way up (I just can't stand a dim screen lol) and by the time I got home today my battery was at 40%, which I am perfectly fine with.

gtg465x said:
Phone calls are a pretty heavy battery drain. Sounds like you're in call for hours each day. Most people don't talk on the phone more than a few minutes a day. Poor signal will also significantly reduce your battery life... how many bars you usually have at work?
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Ah...the man himself.
Yes I talk a lot on the phone - nature of the job. 3 hours minimum in a day. Signal at home is terrible - 15% strength... that could be the reason why the battery runs dry after the morning routine. Any way to offset that?
At work signal is great. But in office I also tend to use my desk phone more...

hydrogenman said:
have you conditioned the battery and reset battery stats?
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Err... no... Noob alert!!!
How does one do that?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14912331&postcount=7
Read this post in another battery thread I am doing this right now to see how it performs afterwards.

Read the thread in my sig.
Never use task killers.
For me, battery life on phones gets good after about 2 weeks or so.
With light to medium use I can easily go for 2+ days.

Consider not streaming music through Bluetooth. Also don't auto sync stuff every 15 mins. If you can use Gmail they use Push notification. I'm on my phone all day literally and I make it home with some battery left. BTW connect to a Wi-Fi when ever possible, 3g data streaming will kill your battery quick.
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Blackberrynomore said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14912331&postcount=7
Read this post in another battery thread I am doing this right now to see how it performs afterwards.
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has anyone tried this method?

It's a Lithium-Ion battery which means it does NOT respond to "conditioning".
"Reconditioning a battery involves completely discharging the energy from a battery then recharging the
battery. Li-Ion batteries do not require reconditioning to maintain good battery performance since Li-Ion
does not have a memory effect. It is necessary to complete drain and then recharge a Li-Ion battery in
order to determine its current capacity level, but that is not the same thing as reconditioning the battery. Li-
Ion batteries do not have a condition that needs to be reconditioned." lxe.com

andrawer said:
It's a Lithium-Ion battery which means it does NOT respond to "conditioning".
"Reconditioning a battery involves completely discharging the energy from a battery then recharging the
battery. Li-Ion batteries do not require reconditioning to maintain good battery performance since Li-Ion
does not have a memory effect. It is necessary to complete drain and then recharge a Li-Ion battery in
order to determine its current capacity level, but that is not the same thing as reconditioning the battery. Li-
Ion batteries do not have a condition that needs to be reconditioned." lxe.com
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Keiht's tutorial is effectively a technique called "bump charging" for putting that last extra percent or two of charge into a battery. However - with Li-Ion batteries, charging like this will SEVERELY reduce their charge cycle lifetime.
The only thing that "calibration" should affect is how your device reports battery charge level, NOT actual power usage. You should get the same total battery life whether your device is "calibrated" or not, with the exception possibly of the device shutting off prematurely because it thinks the battery is lower than it really is.

Entropy512 said:
Keiht's tutorial is effectively a technique called "bump charging" for putting that last extra percent or two of charge into a battery. However - with Li-Ion batteries, charging like this will SEVERELY reduce their charge cycle lifetime.
The only thing that "calibration" should affect is how your device reports battery charge level, NOT actual power usage. You should get the same total battery life whether your device is "calibrated" or not, with the exception possibly of the device shutting off prematurely because it thinks the battery is lower than it really is.
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I would have to agree with you. I followed his directions as i was having horrible battery issues after going to 1.5.0 and it seems to have helped the reporting as far as I can tell. I think the big problem and it is only a guess is how the phone is reporting the battery condition not actual battery left. In any event I am running JD and the longer I run with 1.5.0 the battery seems to be lasting a lot longer but I have ti disable most everything which hobbles the phones best features to get that battery life still searching for the perfect solution.

double tap 2 wake battery usage

I've had the phone for 3 weeks and i trialed the phone both with dt2w and without. my discovery is that i get roughly half an hour or an full hour more on screen time without double tap
however didn't run any strict testing, just placebo.
is there anyone who can back this?

I have used this on my LG G2 and now Z3, I have not noticed any noticable loss of battery life on either, maybe ~ 30mins out of its 2 day battery life. Overall its worth using. Should not really affect SOT, because any drain should be during screen off.

I always use the doble tap, i have to do a battery test without it. I never get more that 5 hours screen on.

if i de activate i get roughly 7 or sometimes 8 hrs on screen...
i know it doesnt directly affect sot but i suspect the deepsleep consumer more battery and indirect the battery life is shorter meaning the sot is also shorter

raviboy100 said:
if i de activate i get roughly 7 or sometimes 8 hrs on screen...
i know it doesnt directly affect sot but i suspect the deepsleep consumer more battery and indirect the battery life is shorter meaning the sot is also shorter
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True, you explained it better than me. But affect is still minimal I get 8-8.5Hrs SOT even with it on. Testing on my LG G2 long back showed negligible effect on SOT and very little effect overall.

I use double tap and my SOT is not great. Going to disable it for now and see if theres any difference in battery life.

Double tap seems wake my phone in the pocket due to accidental activation.

I don't know how double tap actually works but but since the screen always has to be ready to register the first tap this has to drain battery. On my g2 I turned double tap of because I got significantly more so.

I have 2 LG G2 and I still got 6-7 Hrs SOT, it was already mentioned by many on that forum I believe that T2W will cause a light drain, nothing significant. Im getting about 7-8 Hrs SOT on the Z3. Unless things are different with the Z3s implementation it should not have a big impact.
I will test with it off on the Z3 for a few charge cycles, hoping I am right .

I recently disabled it and have seen a dramatic increase in battery life. I'm 24 hours in and am still at 47% although I've only had SOT 2 hrs 22 mins so far.

so deep sleep is a lot better without dt2w

Accurate battery life?

Just got a new Z3 D6616. This is the battery life projection I'm getting. I bought this phone because I heard great things about it's battery life. Also, when I saw a YouTube review, the guy's phone had a battery life projection of several days. Is something faulty with this specific handset? Am I doing something terribly wrong? Please advise.
PS. I'm at about 30-40% screen brightness with the adaptive setting on.

Prasad said:
Just got a new Z3 D6616. This is the battery life projection I'm getting. I bought this phone because I heard great things about it's battery life. Also, when I saw a YouTube review, the guy's phone had a battery life projection of several days. Is something faulty with this specific handset? Am I doing something terribly wrong? Please advise.
PS. I'm at about 30-40% screen brightness with the adaptive setting on.
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You should actually use the phone from 100% doing your daily stuff till about 1% and take screen of your on screen time. On screen time is what matter. They claimed to have at least 8 hours SoT with normal usage but the max I can get is only 4.5 or 5 hours.

I did a lot of reading before buying the phone. Heard about the "memory" screen or something that helps towards battery life. Several users claimed 10 hours SOT. Could it be the newer firmware that might have reduced it? I'll post the YouTube videos I saw shortly.

I use brightness at about 1/3 and have location and autosync on. I get about 8-9 Hrs SOT in a 36Hrs period.
At first even I got 4-6 Hrs SOT until it calibrated over a few charge/discharge cycles.
It takes a few cycles for the battery to calibrate, if you want to do that faster do the following:
1. Drain to 0-1% with normal use
2. Do a full charge till 100%
3. Do another full discharge (Dont charge in between)
4. Do another full charge till 100%
5. Now just use it how you want.

Thanks! Guess I'll have to report back report back after a couple cycles.

I have the same problem, I have enable the stamina mode, have the brightness at half and auto,and the battery won't last for one day,as an example today when I get up after I unplug the device it go from 100% to 99% right away and now after 10 hours without game,photos just Internet reading over WiFi the battery is at 31%. It doesn't seem normal, what should I do?must go to service?

I'm at 59% and my phone predicts 1 day remaining.
D6616 as well
I do suspect an app draining my battery though...

xxquicksh0txx said:
I'm at 59% and my phone predicts 1 day remaining.
D6616 as well
I do suspect an app draining my battery though...
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1 day standby time you mean?

Prasad said:
1 day standby time you mean?
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Nope, 1 day 19 hours standby
Well, it says 23 hours now... and 1 day 18 hours in Standby mode.
I also have no power saving features enabled, with max brightness..
I can get 6+ hours if I limit my brightness, but I settle for less with max brightness throughout the day.

xxquicksh0txx said:
Nope, 1 day 19 hours standby
Well, it says 23 hours now... and 1 day 18 hours in Standby mode.
I also have no power saving features enabled, with max brightness..
I can get 6+ hours if I limit my brightness, but I settle for less with max brightness throughout the day.
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Could it have something to do with the display image enhancement mode? I'm using X-reality. What about you?

Prasad said:
Could it have something to do with the display image enhancement mode? I'm using X-reality. What about you?
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I have it turned off, I can't really tell a difference..
Sometimes my "battery forecast" is low like yours though, I wouldn't worry about it unless you're actually getting bad battery life.

xxquicksh0txx said:
I have it turned off, I can't really tell a difference..
Sometimes my "battery forecast" is low like yours though, I wouldn't worry about it unless you're actually getting bad battery life.
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The battery life I'm experiencing is worse than the "forecast", which is essentially what worries me. Regardless, I've no right to whine unless I've cycled the battery completely at least once since it is after all a brand spanking new phone.

Prasad said:
The battery life I'm experiencing is worse than the "forecast", which is essentially what worries me. Regardless, I've no right to whine unless I've cycled the battery completely at least once since it is after all a brand spanking new phone.
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I doubt I'd get the 24 hours from now with my current use either. As long as it lasts me throughout the day I'm fine.
I can generally go the entire weekend without charging my phone though.

Ive gone through 3 Z4s (Cosmetic defects/lightbleed) on my 4th Z4, all of the were bad until they were calibrated within a few days.

abhinav.tella said:
Ive gone through 3 Z4s (Cosmetic defects/lightbleed) on my 4th Z4, all of the were bad until they were calibrated within a few days.
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I think you mean Z3s...

Lol yes.

I fully discharged and recharged my phone. Now I got 18 hours usage, including 7 hours SOT with the screen on max brightness for half an hour. It's getting much better now, certainly a huge improvement over my previous phone!
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That's more like it, it should get a little better.

Please have a look towards the end... My phone's been awake when I was asleep. Is there an issue with this phone deep sleeping? While I get a good SOT, the idle drain is too high! Please advise on how I could investigate if a particular app is doing this. I used to use "wakelock detector" but that no longer works without root.
EDIT: Stamina Mode always on.
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Prasad said:
Please have a look towards the end... My phone's been awake when I was asleep. Is there an issue with this phone deep sleeping? While I get a good SOT, the idle drain is too high! Please advise on how I could investigate if a particular app is doing this. I used to use "wakelock detector" but that no longer works without root.
Sent from the inner sanctum of my mind.
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I have the same problem too... Whenever I leave the phone idle, even with the stamina mode on, it still uses the battery as if I was using it.

Bad Battery life or Bad Battery on Nexus 5 with 5.1

Hello,
I've searching for like 2 months about problems with battery life and Lollipop with nexus 5. I understand the issues but since it was released, i never had much problems with it. I used to have 2h SOT for like 40% battery or so.
My daily routine allowed me to reach home with a bit more than 50% battery with 2h SOT more or less. (a lot of messaging on viber/whatsapp)
But something changed since 1 and half months ago. I can no longer do the same and it seems that i have a CONSTANT battery drain. I remember when i unplugged my phone i would reach my workplace (1:30h after unplug) i would have like 2-4% less battery depending on the usage. Currently when i get out of home the battery is already at like 92% or more depending on the usage. If i let the phone stay idle all the time, i usally get home with 30-40% battery now. I'm already thinking that my battery has gone bad. This started to happen from one day to another and i never let the battery stay too much below 30% usually, but nowadays it's impossible to predict the battery life since some days it seems to drain more than others.
I've used some apps to monitor the usage but i really don't understand much about it and can't seem to find a pattern. I've already did factory reset with all Lollipop versions and i remember doing a KK regression for some hours but the drain seemed like it was still there (can't use KK on my nexus 5 anyway, it feels weird after Lollipop experience ) but i didn't even fully charged the battery as i remember. Anyway if it would be an app, there should be some kind of logging in battery stats which doesn't, and i can't think about anything else.
I finally gave up and decided to ask help here, since i don't know what else to do. I'm actually leaning towards getting a nexus 6 but after reading about so many issues (screen/battery life/burn-in) i'm not sure what else i can do with my nexus 5.
If anyone can give me a hint i'd be very grateful
PS: already tried Cataclysm ROM and using currently ElementalX kernel. I notice a bit better battery life with ElementalX but i think the pictures speak for themselves.

Judging by that constant drain with very little shown awake time I'd install Better Battery Stats and check for kernel wakelocks. I had a similar situation with a wake lock from using a wireless charger that did not show in the regular battery stats.

AndrasLOHF said:
Judging by that constant drain with very little shown awake time I'd install Better Battery Stats and check for kernel wakelocks. I had a similar situation with a wake lock from using a wireless charger that did not show in the regular battery stats.
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i already installed it before, but currently don't have it installed. I have Wakelock Detector app i can post a screenshot if helps
Installed Better Battery Stats, i'll post results tomorrow (battery at 19% already).

As promised, there's still some battery left but i didn't even use the phone today mostly... in days like these i should be over 70% as usual or maybe close to 80% that i remember.
Can't seem to find the cause

bump i guess
will some full discharge cycles fix this ? iirc that can make things worse.

I feel your pain...when I was on Kitkat, I'd get to work running just Waze and Pandora and my battery life would be at 80%. Installed Lollipop 5.1 and now half way through my trip (15 minutes of use) the phone shuts down with a dead battery. Maybe it's just a coincidence that my battery decided to give up the ghost at the same time I install 5.1, but I find that very odd...the phone is only a 1.5 years old...lithium battery's tend to last 2+ years and even then they don't fall off a cliff in terms of capacity. At this point I think I'll buy a new battery and see what happens, LG OEM are about $25 on Amazon.

Battery drain

Been using the phone for a few weeks now and getting reasonable battery life on default settings. Probably over 6 hours sot (i don't game). However, during the night-time with wifi and cell internet off, it's draining at 1% or over per hours. A little concerning, as my 6T was probably half that. Has anyone tweaked any settings or used another kernel (I'm on global build) to achieve a better standby battery life?
Thanks.
Edit: looks like it's back to about 0.3%/hr idle drain now, so appears to be fixed.

RussianBear said:
Been using the phone for a few weeks now and getting reasonable battery life on default settings. Probably over 6 hours sot (i don't game). However, during the night-time with wifi and cell internet off, it's draining at 1% or over per hours. A little concerning, as my 6T was probably half that. Has anyone tweaked any settings or used another kernel (I'm on global build) to achieve a better standby battery life?
Thanks.
Edit: looks like it's back to about 0.3%/hr idle drain now, so appears to be fixed.
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I'm facing same prob with you, how did you fix it?

I think I just let it settle, nothing special.