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I have a SM-G955U1 I'm trying to downgrade to Nougat since Oreo totally borked the bluetooth in both my cars (both BMW's - audio connects ~50% of the time, phone book no longer transfers).
I'm failing to flash G955U1UES2AQL1 with Prince Cosmey Odin v3.12. The error I keep receiving is:
SW REV CHECK FAIL : [abl]Fused 3 > Binary 2
I've also tried to flash G955USQS2BRB1.
A quick Google says it's because I'm trying to downgrade versions, but doesn't this model have an unlocked bootloader?
What am I doing wrong? Any guidance is greatly appreciated.
What firmware are you on now? If your on bootloader 2 there's no going back to bootloader 1 which is nougat. Bootloader's are locked on U phones, once you upgrade there's no going back........they took that directly from IOS book of being a holes.
str8shot said:
I have a SM-G955U1 I'm trying to downgrade to Nougat since Oreo totally borked the bluetooth in both my cars (both BMW's - audio connects ~50% of the time, phone book no longer transfers).
I'm failing to flash G955U1UES2AQL1 with Prince Cosmey Odin v3.12. The error I keep receiving is:
SW REV CHECK FAIL : [abl]Fused 3 > Binary 2
I've also tried to flash G955USQS2BRB1.
A quick Google says it's because I'm trying to downgrade versions, but doesn't this model have an unlocked bootloader?
What am I doing wrong? Any guidance is greatly appreciated.
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Sounds like your on the version 3 bootloader who I believe only noug firmware is the binary all the rest is Oreo. You may be outs luck until either root to fix or Samsung releases a fix
Huh. That sucks. I bought the unlocked version of the phone thinking it'd be totally unlocked (bootloader and all).
Might be time for a pixel. :/
I'm pretty sure that you cannot unlock your snapdragon bootloader kn your US device. You have a "Sim unlocked" device that will work with any provider.
/\- When a manufacturer says "Unlocked" all they mean is sim unlocked. No going back right now, best you could do is flash PartyCyborg Rom for Snap and that will get you to nougat as well as root, since this does work with v3; but you'll only be able to charge to 80%.
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bmxmike said:
/\- When a manufacturer says "Unlocked" all they mean is sim unlocked. No going back right now, best you could do is flash PartyCyborg Rom for Snap and that will get you to nougat as well as root, since this does work with v3; but you'll only be able to charge to 80%.
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I desperately need downgrade from oreo to nougat version and this is my problem, the bootloader version...
there is something like nougat with bootloader 2 could be official (preferably) or custom rom (last option)
That's the issue. There is no bootloader 3 nougat, you are on 3 not 2 that's the issue with your downgrade. The only thing I see working is flashing PartyCyborg Rom which works on v3 bootloader and pretty sure is still nougat. Go check his thread as I know there are a few things like o only being able to charge to 80%
What i have: a brand new carrier unlocked samsung galaxy s7 sm-g930w8 - came with 7.0
What Id love to do: downgrade to 6.0.1 official touchwiz rom but rooted
What im reading: that the security patch is from february of 2018, which means the bootloader is too new, which means downgrading using odin wont work ( https://www.sammobile.com/forum/threads/36282-Does-Region-Matter )
... so what can i do? i bought this phone with the sole intention of downgrading, as ive seen that it is possible for that phone model (s7) in general
i hate the look of the newer OS. They took the touchwiz out of touchwiz which i loved, although mine is a rare opinion. I want the operation and exact feel of 6.0. the menus are simpler, the notifications area isnt completely stripped of features differing from total stock android. i hate having to pull down twice to see everything. I just really want that older look and feel, but all around, not just a theme.
is there anything i can do to either downgrade or fool the bootloader into letting me carry this out? is this a true limitation, or si that info i found false/old? and if I can downgrade, which build version should I use?
ive been looking here for versions
https://samsung-firmware.org/model/SM-G930W8/ but im not sure which region to go with, or if i can technically use any region
sammobile doesnt list that version anymore at all ( https://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/galaxy-s7/SM-G930W8/ )
https://mobiletech360.co/samsung-galaxy-s7-sm-g930w8-stock-firmware-rom-android-6-0-1-marshmallow/ there are a number of options here but unsure of the different numbers/builds. or if since its carrier unlocked, i could pick any?
I know most will think im silly for wanting to downgrade or caring that much about appearance, but silliness aside... is this even possible??
a while ago, i purchased an s5 mini, and downgraded that with no issues at all.... but its honestly been so long and i cant for the life of me remember the steps i took or if i needed to care about region codes or other numbers. but it did sucessfully work.... it was really built unwell/cheap, but it did work.... its also slower than my captivate glide which is still my current phone, until/if i can get this s7 working the way i desire.
any help and guidance is appreciated. If it is needed, ill be using it with a Koodo mobile sim.
well it is too new if its from DRAG or so onwards (those with U2/S2 in the file name) so no dice, you're stuck with 7.0 unless you want to upgrade to oreo. (and 7.0 firmwares prior to DRAG cant be downgraded to either, not that theres much point doing that)
btw this is the wrong forum to post this in
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well it is too new if its from DRAG or so onwards (those with U2/S2 in the file name) so no dice, you're stuck with 7.0 unless you want to upgrade to oreo. (and 7.0 firmwares prior to DRAG cant be downgraded to either, not that theres much point doing that)
btw this is the wrong forum to post this in
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But this is the forum about s7? I'm wanting to modify an s7?
Which part of the file name are you referring to? Which file?
I would have thought all s7's are made at the same time, and so released with the same overall software, but it all seems so complex now. I've seen s7's running 6.0.1 stock so in my mind it seems they should all be able to...
Not sure what you're referring to with drag either? Does that stand for something?
I'm really hoping this can work somehow, its the last flagship before the edge models which was why I got it, and I love Samsung software up until 7 and 8.
My mom has an s7 as well, not rooted or anything that's too complex for her, but she did the upgrade to 8 and it's still got all the same gross appearance factors that I don't like about version 7. I got excited when her phone wanted to upgrade, maybe they had fixed some of the grossness. But, nope. Wish they had included an option even for stock based or touchwiz based appearance and menus.
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But this is the forum about s7? I'm wanting to modify an s7?
Which part of the file name are you referring to? Which file?
I would have thought all s7's are made at the same time, and so released with the same overall software, but it all seems so complex now. I've seen s7's running 6.0.1 stock so in my mind it seems they should all be able to...
Not sure what you're referring to with drag either? Does that stand for something?
I'm really hoping this can work somehow, its the last flagship before the edge models which was why I got it, and I love Samsung software up until 7 and 8.
My mom has an s7 as well, not rooted or anything that's too complex for her, but she did the upgrade to 8 and it's still got all the same gross appearance factors that I don't like about version 7. I got excited when her phone wanted to upgrade, maybe they had fixed some of the grossness. But, nope. Wish they had included an option even for stock based or touchwiz based appearance and menus.
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go into about phone and tell me the last 6 characters of your build number
(i was referring to the PDA file in a stock firmware zip)
(Also i meant this should be in Q&A section)
Hello,
I can understand you and also understand what you want but Samsung installed a downgrade lock in their bootloader in early 2018,
if you installed this version you can't go back to an older version, I think that was in February.
You can go back from a 6.2018 version to a 4.2018 version for example but not to a 1.2018 version!
If you have a version of for example 12.2017, you can also go back to a version of 2016, so you can also go back to Android 6.01,
if not you only have the last versions of Android 7 or update to Oreo.
I hope I could help.
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go into about phone and tell me the last 6 characters of your build number
(i was referring to the PDA file in a stock firmware zip)
(Also i meant this should be in Q&A section)
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the last of the build number and the last of the baseband version are the same. But i did take a screenshot of it when i was thinking rooting and changing would be no big thing. figured that would be easier. i purposely havent even hooked it up to wifi yet or anything, said no to anything non essential when i was setting it up... on the chance it was starting up in version 6, and i didnt want it upgrading on its own.
also why would they block downgrading? It seems if anything blocking upgrading would be the way to go, to stop people from updating their devices before official software is ready, not just samsung but any manufacturer. in my head it seems silly to even need to root anymore... someone always figures it out, and cell phone manufacturers must know it. it would be nice if it were included, sort of like developer options, where its hidden, but if you know what to look for its there, and if youre not that advanced youll never find it.
if the bootloader is in fact locked and that is the main prevention, has anyone ever successfully unlocked it before?
ETA: Ive done a bit more looking around and there is alot around about frp and making you sign in to a google account in order to reset.... i have *not* needed and havent signed into a google account on that device at all... does that mean a downgrade is still possible though odin? Or, are these 2 things in fact unrelated...
eta #2: Did a bit more searching around, and it seems to be that in order to root your device, in the process it must unlock the bootloader? If that is still the case, would i be able to then flash the marshmallow stock ROM? Thats what i was looking to do all along, sorry maybe i should have been more clear about my planned method initially. Its a bit more nerve wracking as it seems rooting itself has gotten a little more difficult with that dm verity thing... but I definitely want root no matter which version im running. Ive had root on all my devices and theres no way im going back to a locked down OS (cant remove microsoft stuff for example), i need to be able to declutter beyond what factory allows lol.
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the last of the build number and the last of the baseband version are the same. But i did take a screenshot of it when i was thinking rooting and changing would be no big thing. figured that would be easier. i purposely havent even hooked it up to wifi yet or anything, said no to anything non essential when i was setting it up... on the chance it was starting up in version 6, and i didnt want it upgrading on its own.
also why would they block downgrading? It seems if anything blocking upgrading would be the way to go, to stop people from updating their devices before official software is ready, not just samsung but any manufacturer. in my head it seems silly to even need to root anymore... someone always figures it out, and cell phone manufacturers must know it. it would be nice if it were included, sort of like developer options, where its hidden, but if you know what to look for its there, and if youre not that advanced youll never find it.
if the bootloader is in fact locked and that is the main prevention, has anyone ever successfully unlocked it before?
ETA: Ive done a bit more looking around and there is alot around about frp and making you sign in to a google account in order to reset.... i have *not* needed and havent signed into a google account on that device at all... does that mean a downgrade is still possible though odin? Or, are these 2 things in fact unrelated...
eta #2: Did a bit more searching around, and it seems to be that in order to root your device, in the process it must unlock the bootloader? If that is still the case, would i be able to then flash the marshmallow stock ROM? Thats what i was looking to do all along, sorry maybe i should have been more clear about my planned method initially. Its a bit more nerve wracking as it seems rooting itself has gotten a little more difficult with that dm verity thing... but I definitely want root no matter which version im running. Ive had root on all my devices and theres no way im going back to a locked down OS (cant remove microsoft stuff for example), i need to be able to declutter beyond what factory allows lol.
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your bootloader is currently on version 3, and you cant downgrade to marshmallow
see that "U3BRB2"? that "U3" means your bootloader is on version 3. i assume the marshmallow firmwares use bootloaders pre-version 3 so you cant downgrade to firmwares using bootloaders with version 1 or 2. (this is how it works for F/FD models and im pretty sure samsung made it like that too for the W8 models)
eta 1) unrelated
eta 2) F/FD/W8/S/K/L variants (basically all the exynos models) have unlocked bootloaders. only SD variants have locked bootloaders so it's just your misconception
So, it's literally impossible? Has nobody ever figured out a way to downgrade or mod the bootloader itself? It seems to me the rom makers wouldn't stand for this at all and would figure out a way around it...
I can see an old bootloader can't run new software, but it seems much easier for newer bootloader to run older software, isn't it? You can buy a windows 7 pc and install Windows xp on it much easier than you could buy a windows XP PC and install Windows 7 on it... It's just boggling my mind a little
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Pawprints1986 said:
So, it's literally impossible? Has nobody ever figured out a way to downgrade or mod the bootloader itself? It seems to me the rom makers wouldn't stand for this at all and would figure out a way around it...
I can see an old bootloader can't run new software, but it seems much easier for newer bootloader to run older software, isn't it? You can buy a windows 7 pc and install Windows xp on it much easier than you could buy a windows XP PC and install Windows 7 on it... It's just boggling my mind a little
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Off course you can downgrade to Marshmallow. To unlock the bootloader, enable OEM unlocking in devlopper options. After flash TWRP 3.1.0 for Herolte and wipe everything from the recovery. Install any 6.0 roms on XDA for G930F then flash Magisk 17.1 to root and you're done. You can't FRP if OEM unlocking in devlopper is enabled.
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Off course you can downgrade to Marshmallow. To unlock the bootloader, enable OEM unlocking in devlopper options. After flash TWRP 3.1.0 for Herolte and wipe everything from the recovery. Install any 6.0 roms on XDA for G930F then flash Magisk 17.1 to root and you're done. You can't FRP if OEM unlocking in devlopper is enabled.
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You'll trip knox (which breaks features like secure folder, private mode, shealth and Sbrowser private mode) and lose the comfort of OTA updates if you do this tho. Not to mention that you can encounter signal reception problems because your flashed ROM is on marshmallow and your bl/cp is on Oreo or nougat. So I wouldn't advise this method as it may break so many things.
Id like to downgrade my S7 from nougat to marshmallow. My current lowest factory reset option is nougat on bootloader version 3. Id like to downgrade to a downloaded stock firmware that uses version 1 of the bootloader.
my device is currently rooted and carrier unlocked
ive made a full backup of the nougat system, before ive done anything to it other than the rooting.
ive been reading around that some people were able to bypass the downgrade bootloader lock error in odin by first going into their desired downgraded firmware tar files and deleting any file that ends in .bin , and then successfully been able to flash the older firmware. what I want to know is if i decide to try this, and it still doesnt work in odin, or something still doesnt work properly - am i still able to fully restore from that backup ive just made? has anyone done this without issues? i hate the look and feel of nougat and oreo looks and feels the exact same...
i did make another thread about downgrading, but i didnt know nearly as much at the time. Been told downgrading is impossible and thats true, officially speaking. Id just like to know if anyone has been successful with this workaround.
What model, SM-G930F? Is OEM Unlocking turned on?
If it's a G930U/V/T/A/P then you won't be able to.
For the G930F so long as you don't have the latest Nougat version it shouldn't prevent downgrading. Otherwise upgrading up to Oreo then back down just by flashing in Odin should work, as Oreo doesn't have the downgrade lock that the newest Nougat has.
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What model, SM-G930F? Is OEM Unlocking turned on?
If it's a G930U/V/T/A/P then you won't be able to.
For the G930F so long as you don't have the latest Nougat version it shouldn't prevent downgrading. Otherwise upgrading up to Oreo then back down just by flashing in Odin should work, as Oreo doesn't have the downgrade lock that the newest Nougat has.
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model is sm-g930w8 but yes OEM unlocking is on, and so is usb debugging just to be on the safe side. It is running the very first version of nougat right now, 7.0. But the security patch is from feb 2018. Ive read that the bootloader itself is unlocked on this version of the phone though, its just that downgrade protection in the software that could get in the way, if what i read was correct? in the same place was where i read that deleting those bin files from the firmware i want to install would be a good workaround, it would make the bootloader not check it at all if i read it correctly.
i havent tried anything yet, ive been doing my research first to stay on the safe side. it might work without issues, but I want to be prepared for if issues do arise, what the correct next step should be to keep the device itself not bricked
Yea not 100% sure for the G930W8, it's the same SoC as the G930F but the firmware restrictions could be different since it's the Canada specific version
so, i decided to brave it and try it, since to read around you find alot of conflicting information... i was suspecting that odin would fail shortly after starting at sboot.bin if it was the bootloader thats the issue. but it didnt. it failed the very next step after that at param.bin.
anyone happen to know what param.bin means?
What files are you trying to flash? I have had the same problem, even though the bootloader is unlocked the device has efuses that prevent downgrade to older binary. I was using U2 binary and only managed to downgrade to nougat u2 binary version. Even when I skipped bootloader files, marshmallow would still give an error that system.img is version 0 where as device is v1
Any way to downgrade from Nougat to MM without losing FP Sensor,Haptic Feedack&Camera
I recently purchased a new S7 not realizing that it was equipped with a Nougat OS. I would like to restore my current phone to the new one, but my current phone runs on MarshMallow. After restoring the backup, my new phone has no haptic feedback, no fingerprint sensor with "an error has occurred with the fingerprint sensor. if this message appears repeatedly, restart your phone" message and the Camera doesn't work.
I'm sure it has something to do with bootloader N using MM. Even restoring Stock Marshmallow firmware (Including BL) on the new phone removes these functions. Does anyone have any ideas on how I can get these to operate?
My current phone has
Bootloader Version: G930W8OYA2APK3 (MM)
Baseband and PDA Version: G930W8OYA2API1 (MM)
When I restore my old phone to the new one, it ends up with
Bootloader Version: G930W8OYA2BQK4 (N)
Baseband and PDA Version: G930W8OYA2API1 (MM)
EDIT: Just tried the Nougat firmware with MM Bootloader. All of the functionality is present.
Bootloader Version: G930W8OYA2API1 (MM)
PDA Version: G930W8OYA2BQK4 (N)
Just restored old backup with MM bootloader (Boot, Data, System only).
No Fingerprint Sensor or Camera.
BTW, ignore the HAPTIC FEEDBACK portion of this post. I believe it is working.
Any help with this matter would be greatly appreciated.
Not possible to downgrade since the bootloader block you from flashing lower version of that. You may try to flash without BL, but your phone will be malfunction
Thank you for your reply. I don't think I'll be able to get the fingerprint wizard to work but having a functional camera would be a necessity. From the System/Priv-App folder I copied the SamsungCamera5 (from MM) and the SamsungCamera6 (from N) onto an SD Card. I guess I can try to play around with them to see if either will work, but I don't think they will since my restored backup should already have SamsungCamera5 and the SamsungCamera6 apk probably isn't compatible with MM. Kinda disappointing that I'll have to continue to use my old phone with a broken screen instead of the brand new one I purchased.
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Thank you for your reply. I don't think I'll be able to get the fingerprint wizard to work but having a functional camera would be a necessity. From the System/Priv-App folder I copied the SamsungCamera5 (from MM) and the SamsungCamera6 (from N) onto an SD Card. I guess I can try to play around with them to see if either will work, but I don't think they will since my restored backup should already have SamsungCamera5 and the SamsungCamera6 apk probably isn't compatible with MM. Kinda disappointing that I'll have to continue to use my old phone with a broken screen instead of the brand new one I purchased.
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do not flash AP from a firmware set made prior to the bootloader youre on, it will more than malfunction, itll probably brick
i went back and read all the tl : dr stuff and saw that you seem to have got it working, oddly enough. The camera issue is likely the kernel
Thanks for the info on the thanks button. I've just about given up trying to get Marshmallow to work properly on this phone. Looks like it'll take weeks to configure my new Nougat phone to be similar to the three years of tweaks I've made to my old MM one. Oh well, first world problems I guess.
As others have pointed out, you can't use Odin to successfully flash a ROM with a bootloader that is earlier (in version) than the bootloader you have installed. The "gatekeeper" is Odin, however, not the bootloader.
Though I haven't tried it, it is my understanding that there is a way around this. Install TWRP, and use it to install a custom ROM which uses the version of bootloader that you want/need. Once the bootloader has been rolled back, you can use Odin to reinstall Nougat (or whatever). I don't know whether this might require a particular build of Odin, but I doubt it
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As others have pointed out, you can't use Odin to successfully flash a ROM with a bootloader that is earlier (in version) than the bootloader you have installed. The "gatekeeper" is Odin, however, not the bootloader.
Though I haven't tried it, it is my understanding that there is a way around this. Install TWRP, and use it to install a custom ROM which uses the version of bootloader that you want/need. Once the bootloader has been rolled back, you can use Odin to reinstall Nougat (or whatever). I don't know whether this might require a particular build of Odin, but I doubt it
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i cant even begin to imagine how/why that would work. the bootloader doesnt really care what ROM you install, its the other way around. The ROM being installed has to be compatible with the bootloader. So, installing a ROM wouldnt really do anything to the bootloader and therefore wouldnt be able to bypass the lock in knox.
The procedure I outlined apparently works where the custom ROM includes a related bootloader. Thus, when it is installed via TWRP, it replaces both the existing ROM and the bootloader. I know that TWRP can be used to install a bootloader, as I have done it (on a SM-930F). And if the gatekeeper is Odin and not the bootloader itself, then this could work.
As I stated, I haven't tried this, nor have I extensively researched it. I've only read about it, and am passing it along as a possible solution.
This post can be closed since the phone was deemed Lost or Stolen by the carrier, therefore they couldn't unlock it for me to use my SIM card. I've since returned the phone. At least I learned a few lessons for my next one. Mainly, back up the phone when you first get it. Thanks again for all of the feedback.
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Combination G930F version of protection U6 got a problem in the device refuses to take off the system and recovery only I can access the download mode does not accept any recovery rate or official or any system lower than the protection of U6 did not work full ROM repair I have searched in all Arab and foreign sites I have not found Never my only hope in the Combination Rom
did you manage to solve this? i have the G935f, after odin flash u6 combination file for g935f, i cannot get passed boot screen. top right of screen i see nad acat failed....anyone who can help?
I am also in the same situation with a G930WS. The FRP lock is preventing anything from being flashed. The binary 6 e-fuse gives us limited options for firmware. Stock rom will not boot, custom roms fail. Dr. Fone does not fix this. Clearing the cache a dozen times will not make a difference. Installing numerous applications that can detect the phone and do nothing more than that despite what they rave about - Fail. A combination rom seems like the only option after plenty of wasted time, but there is none (that I have found yet) for Oreo. So if you have updated your bootloader past Nougat, like I have then we are sol until one comes available.. we may be waiting awhile. Grab a new phone, save yourself a headache for now. Merry Xmas.