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I have a note 4 with T-Mobile right now. I don't mind the lack of a SD slot or removable battery. I also am tired of no lollipop on my note 4. I do want to avoid bloated touch wiz lag and battery issues. Thoughts?
lol, sounds like you need a change of manafacturer.
I have an S6 pre-order but after doing more research I think I'll cancel it, the lack of removable batt and expandable storage not to mention the possible need for two screen protectors front and back(OCD)no IP rating, no USB3.0(S4), its a downgrade from S5.
Camera is same as GN4, same ram, slightly upgraded CPU, smaller screen and all glass this thing is going to be very cold to the touch like Sony device, compared to GN4. Nevertheless I'll try to hold reservations until it is in my hand.
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lol, sounds like you need a change of manafacturer.
I have an S6 pre-order but after doing more research I think I'll cancel it, the lack of removable batt and expandable storage not to mention the possible need for two screen protectors front and back(OCD)no IP rating, no USB3.0(S4), its a downgrade from S5.
Camera is same as GN4, same ram, slightly upgraded CPU, smaller screen and all glass this thing is going to be very cold to the touch like Sony device, compared to GN4. Nevertheless I'll try to hold reservations until it is in my hand.
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I don't mind a change in manufacturer, but I want to keep the same concepts within my next device: fingerprint scanner, high end processor, good build quality, lot of RAM. I also want timely updates too. iPhone 6+ has too little ram and a high price tag. Waiting on HTC's One Max M9 or LG G4 or Xperia Z4.
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I don't mind a change in manufacturer, but I want to keep the same concepts within my next device: fingerprint scanner, high end processor, good build quality, lot of RAM. I also want timely updates too. iPhone 6+ has too little ram and a high price tag. Waiting on HTC's One Max M9 or LG G4 or Xperia Z4.
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You sound like you need a nexus 6! Z4 is questionable because if SONY does shutdown smart phone branch it may never see any future updates. HTC max may be out around the time of Note 5 announcement so you might as well wait a little longer and get that. G4 I think is the phone that might compete closest to S6 IMO, and might beat it in terms of keeping sd, and large removal battery, unless they pull a Samsung!
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You sound like you need a nexus 6! Z4 is questionable because if SONY does shutdown smart phone branch it may never see any future updates. HTC max may be out around the time of Note 5 announcement so you might as well wait a little longer and get that. G4 I think is the phone that might compete closest to S6 IMO, and might beat it in terms of keeping sd, and large removal battery, unless they pull a Samsung!
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I used a Nexus 6, but I didn't like the battery life as much as the Note 4. It has good, but bland software since it lacks in features if anything.
Maybe you need a s6 edge
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Maybe you need a s6 edge
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It's too expensive lol. I am looking to spend no more than $100+ Note 4 money.
I would wait to see how the TW 5.0.x Lollipop behaves on the Note 4 and it should be out soon. I have the same dilemma about upgrading from a much older device (S4) and though I really want a new gadget I just can't justify the move frankly (except for the camera quality).
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I would wait to see how the TW 5.0.x Lollipop behaves on the Note 4 and it should be out soon. I have the same dilemma about upgrading from a much older device (S4) and though I really want a new gadget I just can't justify the move frankly (except for the camera quality).
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Yes, I know that is expensive, that's why I'll get S6 regular xD
Check s6 edge
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I have a note 4 with T-Mobile right now. I don't mind the lack of a SD slot or removable battery. I also am tired of no lollipop on my note 4. I do want to avoid bloated touch wiz lag and battery issues. Thoughts?
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Install 'Nova Launcher' answer set as your default. It doesn't completely disable TouchWiz functionality but it has proven to be a speed increase and overall better Home Launcher. It's free on the PlayStore.
I've been using it since it was first released and will never use another app for my Android. Enjoy.
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legend221 said:
Install 'Nova Launcher' answer set as your default. It doesn't completely disable TouchWiz functionality but it has proven to be a speed increase and overall better Home Launcher. It's free on the PlayStore.
I've been using it since it was first released and will never use another app for my Android. Enjoy.
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I will give it a try, but for now, I am waiting for reviews and to demo the S6.
This describes me exactly. Tired of laggy touchwiz. How could a beast of a phone loke the note 4 seem less than buttery smooth?
Temporarily using a z3 and it's smooooth, but camera is mediocre at best. Gosh darn it, I just want a smooth phone with a great camera. Hope that's s6
I'm not sure how you consider the note 4 a laggy phone. Go check the note 4 vs any other phone and you ll see that it's actually faster than the iPhone 6 And many others.
Once lollipop comes out for your note.. Put your xperia and note side by side and see which is faster.
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You sound like you need a nexus 6! Z4 is questionable because if SONY does shutdown smart phone branch it may never see any future updates. HTC max may be out around the time of Note 5 announcement so you might as well wait a little longer and get that. G4 I think is the phone that might compete closest to S6 IMO, and might beat it in terms of keeping sd, and large removal battery, unless they pull a Samsung!
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Man I love the Nexus 6. If only it were 5.5", bigger battery, and better camera, it would be the perfect phone.
I have a nex 6 and I want an s6 after reading this forum and all the previews and reviews. My only issue is I had a note 4 and now the nex 6 and the s6 screen is almost a whole 1 inch smaller. Not a deal breaker but wish it was at least 5.5
90% chance I will buy it anyway
Has anybody sold/traded their Note 8 for a OnePlus 6? Does anyone have both? If so, how does the OnePlus 6 compare? Obviously the OS is different, faster processor and GPU, but I would like to hear people's thought about whether they like it better, if there is a way different feel to it than the Note 8. I am currently considering switching over myself. Thanks for your thoughts and opinions in advance!
Note 8: better screen, better camera (debatable), ip68 certified.
Op6: fastest phone on the market right now, nothing can beat it. OxygenOS is smooth and has no bloatware. Battery life should be a bit better than your Note 8 too.
I had an S8+ before this which is very comparable to your Note 8 and I don't regret it. The speed and snappiness of this phone is addictive.
I am a hardcore user.. lots of video calls, heavy multitasking with ****loads of apps open on the same time, gaming (pubg) and the phone never breaks a sweat.
Oh and gotta love the dash fast charging. Half an hour and you're back with 50% charge.
The camera is by far bad, close to flagships but missing out here and there to be as good as S9 or P20 pro or Google Pixel 2 XL camera. I recommend watching some reviews to get more insight in the camera. I'm personally not disappointed.
Hope this helped. Good luck.
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Note 8: better screen, better camera (debatable), ip68 certified.
Op6: fastest phone on the market right now, nothing can beat it. OxygenOS is smooth and has no bloatware. Battery life should be a bit better than your Note 8 too.
I had an S8+ before this which is very comparable to your Note 8 and I don't regret it. The speed and snappiness of this phone is addictive.
I am a hardcore user.. lots of video calls, heavy multitasking with ****loads of apps open on the same time, gaming (pubg) and the phone never breaks a sweat.
Oh and gotta love the dash fast charging. Half an hour and you're back with 50% charge.
The camera is by far bad, close to flagships but missing out here and there to be as good as S9 or P20 pro or Google Pixel 2 XL camera. I recommend watching some reviews to get more insight in the camera. I'm personally not disappointed.
Hope this helped. Good luck.
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I also came from a dual-SIM 256GB N8 and mostly agree with what you have said but the camera, man, it's horrid. Nowhere as good as the reviews claimed and absolutely abysmal in low light. It is a very fast phone, the fastest I have ever used (have used dozens and dozens of smartphones over the last twenty or so years). I miss the wireless charging, though I got around it by adding the wireless charger sleeve but it charges very slowly.
By the way, if you trip Knox and install a custom ROM on the N8, it's also pretty darn fast. Just a bit more work to do that. I definitely miss the Note 8's camera.
If your always been using a flagship phone, oneplus is not for you. Its made for budget type people. The screen, camera, overall experience is not for you. Its for people who dont care about a little small thing thats is missing but the speed. But for the speed itself it does not much different from the note 8 so imo its not worth changing (im not saying upgrading)
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If your always been using a flagship phone, oneplus is not for you. Its made for budget type people. The screen, camera, overall experience is not for you. Its for people who dont care about a little small thing thats is missing but the speed. But for the speed itself it does not much different from the note 8 so imo its not worth changing (im not saying upgrading)
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See I disagree. I've always went "flagship" in the past. I've stayed with Samsung mostly, and coming from the note 8 most recently. I am not really missing anything. I love this phone. Best of all, I'm back into the custom side of Android again and I get to play a little. I missed that. There's tons of gimmicky features out there that i could have, but wouldn't really make my personal user experience any better. Honestly, I can do more with this phone. For me and my needs/wants, this is a better phone than the note 8, but to each his own.
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Has anybody sold/traded their Note 8 for a OnePlus 6? Does anyone have both? If so, how does the OnePlus 6 compare? Obviously the OS is different, faster processor and GPU, but I would like to hear people's thought about whether they like it better, if there is a way different feel to it than the Note 8. I am currently considering switching over myself. Thanks for your thoughts and opinions in advance!
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To answer your questions, I do like it better. I love the feel. It's a nice phone aesthetically, and I'm happy with the build quality. Feels better in the hand than the note 8 and definitely fits in my pocket better. Holding them side by side, the op6 is smaller, but with basically the same screen real estate. I'm by no means a OnePlus fan, as this is my first, but this was a good start. I personally am glad I made the switch. That certainly doesn't mean you will and obviously there are others that will disagree. This is just my honest opinion.
I went from Note 8 to OP6.
Miss the camera just a little bit, and SPen features like cropping screenshots and writing on screen
My note 8 was having issues and sold it. It was a few days before the OnePlus released. Only bought it because it holds it value.
Community(not xda or Reddit) makes me dislike the phone. Device is nothing special. Not bad but does nothing special outside of maybe 1hr plus of sot. Quick Updates obviously.
International note 8 over most phones.
OnePlus 6 pictures. Doubt the note 8 will do massively better. Yes in low light it's not as good as a flagship but it ain't bad either.
https://flic.kr/p/28kXMQq
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https://www.flickr.com/gp/[email protected]/Ms4MC5
I had the S9+ and moved to the OP6. No regrets at all. Sure the camera isn't as good and it's not water resistant, but I don't mind those trade offs.
came from note 8 ,the only thing from note 8 is camera ,but op 6 has more like fast software ,fast updates better cpu ,gpu and camera for me is not bad
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Has anybody sold/traded their Note 8 for a OnePlus 6? Does anyone have both? If so, how does the OnePlus 6 compare? Obviously the OS is different, faster processor and GPU, but I would like to hear people's thought about whether they like it better, if there is a way different feel to it than the Note 8. I am currently considering switching over myself. Thanks for your thoughts and opinions in advance!
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I switched from a Note 7 to Pixel XL to OP6 Silk White, and I couldn't be happier. But I also was a big fan of Note 7 over the awful Pixel XL. I am hesitant to recommend OP6 over Note 8, just because I loved Note 7 so much. OP6 is a great phone nevertheless.
Above sums it up. Can't go wrong with either choice
sold Note 8 for OnePlus 6 (my first OnePlus phone) and I'm really happy with it. Obviously it depends on what you're searching from a smartphone. If you like speed, fast updates and modding (like me) you'll never regret the change
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I had the S9+ and moved to the OP6. No regrets at all. Sure the camera isn't as good and it's not water resistant, but I don't mind those trade offs.
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is the performance better on the op6 ??
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is the performance better on the op6 ??
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there's no doubt the performance is better
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there's no doubt the performance is better
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thing is, the price of a s9+ is very close to the price of a 128gb OP6 from where im from..
so im torn between those 2.
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thing is, the price of a s9+ is very close to the price of a 128gb OP6 from where im from..
so im torn between those 2.
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I've set up an S9 for a friend, and it was a fantastic phone. The one thing to consider for sure is that an OP6 comes with a plastic screen protector factory installed and a silicone case (which is actually excellent,) so you are good to go out of the box. I had to spend about $60 to put a Dome screen protector and a Slickwrap on the back for the S9. Takes time and money if you want to protect the glass surfaces. It's amazing to me how no large company like Samsung ever thought of it.
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thing is, the price of a s9+ is very close to the price of a 128gb OP6 from where im from..
so im torn between those 2.
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That's a tough decision for sure. I guess it depends on what you need out of your phone. I wanted to get back into heavy customization (I like to tinker with stuff and the note 8 was locked down tight), and out from under TMobiles thumb, so I sold my note 8 and give up my jump plan. It was the original jump too, which made it a very hard decision...but necessary to truly get free from TMobile.
After doing some research, the OnePlus 6 just stood out to me as the best choice. I'm not regretting it at all. Super fast phone. Great Android experience. No frills but I'm ok with that, and it's got just enough that I might even used the frills that it does have, and developers will add more . I'm pleased with the caliber of developers that are showing up here. Exciting for sure.
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Takes time and money if you want to protect the glass surfaces. It's amazing to me how no large company like Samsung ever thought of it.
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Especially since the TPU case and screen protector can't have cost OP more than a couple of bucks.
I have both. When I compare the two, the only thing that sticks out for me between the note 8 and the one plus is the screen and form factor of the note 8. I love the note 8 screen. But thats it. In my opinion, the note 8 is waaaaay too slow for me. Tons of features, but pointless with all the lag. I love the oneplus cuz it's simple, fast, and so much more fun to use. Plus, Im a big fan of stock Android. Samsung is great, but can be too much at times.
Hey guys, I just want to know your experience after using Xiaomi Poco f1 for months.... Are you guys satisfied with your phone or do you guys regret buying it?
And please rate the phone.
Yes, I'm very satisfied with the device, it surely is an upgrade from my Lenovo P2. The device is very responsive. It was the transition to Miui that kept me deciding wether I wanted it. After using Miui for 2 months now.. I definitely recommend a Xiaomi device to all my friends.
Upgraded from Galaxy S5 two months ago. Thought that the screen downgrade would bother me but it really doesn't - it's a decent screen for an LCD (and I love a very low minimal backlight level for night reading, usually for me a most useful feature of an amoled screen). Of course, it's extremely snappy and I find even the camera excellent (gcam is a big help here but even a built in app is decent). While I really like the photos, I don't care much for the video. It's detailed enough, with a good dynamic range and the EIS on 1080p is excellent but it's aggressive 'local' HDR is very apparent. It really looks bad when only a certain part of the image keeps changing in brightness while panning. The video is much better if you don't pan around. I rarely take videos so it's not much of a downside for me and maybe a gcam video has a different HDR algorithm (forgot to try it). I am not a gamer (bought a high-performance phone mostly for future-proofing and to run a Linux desktop on) so haven't really been hit that hard with a often mentioned touch responsiveness (seems perfectly OK to me). I have a custom built widget for always on homescreen notifications that I vastly prefer to tiny notification icons so the lack of the latter doesn't bother me. I actually hate notification icons as I am usually running 4-5 background services with permanent active notifications that eat up all the available space. This way I only get dismissable notifications that are actually notifications.
I can't comment on the cell signal quality as I haven't got out of a city lately and here the signal is decent everywhere. Band coverage shouldn't be a problem in Europe, I think. All in all, I haven't regretted the purchase and don't underestimate the 'smug factor' of owning a phone that's a much smarter purchase than all the fancy branded ones.
My dream came true with this legendary phone.... I used to think that when I will use flagship processor.... But my budget not that much high to purchase flagship mobiles ... But after seeing this mobile with high end processor .. I felt that I too have a legendary mobile in my hands... I don't see any brand before purchase ... Just I saw the snapdragon 845 processor and I bought this phone and I felt happy ... This phone is awesome and Google camera is working like a charm ... And I am using pixel experience ROM ... I love that ROM ....
POCO (LOVE )
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Hey guys, I just want to know your experience after using Xiaomi Poco f1 for months.... Are you guys satisfied with your phone or do you guys regret buying it?
And please rate the phone.
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the camera warps when you try to stabilize a video because no ois, further note all phone cameras suck at low light video. Google camera by far enhances this phones zoom and low light capabilities greatly.
Remember guys this phone is full of compromises
Of course there are better phones with better screens if your expecting a phone with an amazing Samsung display or flashy looks then best to buy a samsung phone. The only positive side the phone is the copper heatsink and 845 processor. The screens display is praised as not complete garbage.
If your a casual phone user it's better to go with a used s8 because this phone is only for pubg
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Xiaomis support of modding is insane even providing warranty when rooting.
Lenovo and Huawei are terrible in comparison you would be lucky to even have 1 custom kernel or rom on those phones.
I was iphone user ever since 3gs, switched from iphone 7 to pocof1 last year and fell in love immediately. First vacation with my wife took maaaany pics, incomparable to her s7 edge or my iphone 7, so much better. Paid 300€ for 128gb version, unbeatable. Countless custom roms, updates coming fast, of course there r better phones, but they cost 700€ or more, so no, thank you, no more "flagships" for me. Been using poco for 4 months now, no regrets not for a second. AND...i dont need a f..... screenprotector or cover or any other protecting sht like before, not scared of getting scratches, and i dont have any yet, still as new. By far the best phone i ever had
Thanks for the replies guys.
I wonder if anyone can help me, should Samsung Galaxy Note 10 Lite buy it. In Vietnam market, its selling price is very good.
Link in VietNames: https://didongviet.vn/samsung-galaxy-note-10-lite
why not get s10e? or wait for s20
I would have definitely went the Note 10 Lite if my current phone (Note 8) wasn't working so damn well for my needs. I think the 10 Lite offers the best combination of features for the price than any other phone today, especially to those who want a stylus. The 3.5mm headphone jack and a non-curved screen actually make it more attractive (to me) than the more expensive Note 10 models.
I'm wondering about this as well. I'm in the US on T-mobile and wondering how this will work. Someone did me a favor by dropping my Note FE and now I'm in the market for a replacement (screen was toasted due to the drop). Wondering how the 10 Lite will work as a daily driver here in the US.
Anyone have any thoughts based on their experiences? Especially @butchieboy - would you recommend it as a daily driver (and only phone)?
Thanks in advance.
Hello, well i am using this phone now for about 2 month's. I am very happy with the phone for my purpose of use. For the price you will get a lot off phone is my opinion. The screen is fantastic, large, great colors, good visible in light. It runs very smooth, no lags at all and in my country the updates comes fast. All the good UI features are present and working very well. I am not a gamer so i could not inform you about gaming performance, only simcity buildit i use and that is running without any lag. The camera is pretty well, very nice wide angle and good HDR quality. Night photography is possible in pro-mode and for what i have seen reasonably. And then the S-pen, that is the reason i bought this one and not the s10 lite. I love the S-Pen and the features. Easy to use and very handy.
The battery gives me more then one day of usage, about 35 hrs. And with the charger it is fully loaded in a hour. The sound with headset and bluetooth speakers is good. Connection also, haven't had problems. The fingerprint reader is not the best there is, in bright light it does not work all the time but face unlock is very fast and accurate.
Overall opinion with marks 1-5:
Display, 5
Multitasking, 4
Performance daily use, 4/5
Battery, 5 (more then one day on fair use)
Software, 4
Updates, 4/5
Design, 5 (personal)
Fingerprint, 3
Cheers!
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Hello, well i am using this phone now for about 2 month's. I am very happy with the phone for my purpose of use. For the price you will get a lot off phone is my opinion. The screen is fantastic, large, great colors, good visible in light. It runs very smooth, no lags at all and in my country the updates comes fast. All the good UI features are present and working very well. I am not a gamer so i could not inform you about gaming performance, only simcity buildit i use and that is running without any lag. The camera is pretty well, very nice wide angle and good HDR quality. Night photography is possible in pro-mode and for what i have seen reasonably. And then the S-pen, that is the reason i bought this one and not the s10 lite. I love the S-Pen and the features. Easy to use and very handy.
The battery gives me more then one day of usage, about 35 hrs. And with the charger it is fully loaded in a hour. The sound with headset and bluetooth speakers is good. Connection also, haven't had problems. The fingerprint reader is not the best there is, in bright light it does not work all the time but face unlock is very fast and accurate.
Overall opinion with marks 1-5:
Display, 5
Multitasking, 4
Performance daily use, 4/5
Battery, 5 (more then one day on fair use)
Software, 4
Updates, 4/5
Design, 5 (personal)
Fingerprint, 3
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Thanks for your frank and detailed review.
I have this phone and i can't agree more with you.
I think its an excellent phone, especially if you need a stylus.
I live in United States and use it on At&t and love it. Can't beat the price. Plus bootloader can be unlocked and very easy to root if you care about that.
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I've decided the Note 10 Lite is the phone for me, after researching for a while. Don't play games, don't even need a decent camera, and it's the only decent(ish) phone in the UK currently that can be had for under £35 a month, everything else goes up way to much. Plus it should be a nice upgrade from my P20 Pro, even if it's not got flagship specs.
Currently waiting a week as I'm almost into the free upgrade period, and I'm not spending £50 to release early when I could just wait a week!
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I live in United States and use it on At&t and love it. Can't beat the price. Plus bootloader can be unlocked and very easy to root if you care about that.
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Can you provide a link to bootloader unlock and root? Thanks
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I've decided the Note 10 Lite is the phone for me, after researching for a while. Don't play games, don't even need a decent camera, and it's the only decent(ish) phone in the UK currently that can be had for under £35 a month, everything else goes up way to much. Plus it should be a nice upgrade from my P20 Pro, even if it's not got flagship specs.
Currently waiting a week as I'm almost into the free upgrade period, and I'm not spending £50 to release early when I could just wait a week!
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Gaming ain't bad bro. Just not high refresh rate and all that.
I am going to buy this phone should I go for it in 2020? I will be using this phone for at least 2 years but I have doubt on this phone's processor please reply
I'm also very happy with 10 lite...love it much more day by day
I've had mine a week now and it's brilliant really (for my use!)
It's now in a spigen case, so the plastic back really doesn't bother me. The whole UI is miles faster than my old P20 Pro, even with the supposed chip differences, that's not bothered me at all! Battery life is good, the screen is bright and sharp and I'm very glad I went for it!
I love the S-Pen. Don't use it all that much tbh, but for screen snips, selecting text and playing with the AR camera, it's fab! Certainly glad I have it than not. Had the first cause to use the screen-off note function the other day and it was brilliant.
There are a few drawbacks however:
The in-screen fingerprint sensor is trash. Like really bad, when I go to my P20 Pro it's instant compared to the Notw10Lite, and that's when the note actually recognises my fingerprint. It got worse when I fitted a screen protector, just refused to work at all so instead I just set a pattern and use face unlock, which works well.
The camera is wierd. It defaults to a mid-zoom which takes the clearer images. If I back it down to no zoom the images become slightly blurred, so I need to get used to that
Samsung software, this was always something I knew would be tricky, because I don't like it. Nova launcher prime went on within half an hour of unboxing it and now it's about as good as it will get. Open app notifications can't be swiped away without closing the app fully, some refuse to go at all and the samsung software spent a week throwing notifications at me to use it's stuff (I don't have a samsung account, don't want to use Bixby etc...)
It is nice though, and a very good compromise for a big screen with stylus phone without spending full fat note prices. Hopefully in time some lovely rom's will come out for it, although I use google pay 100% of the time so that could be a potential issue.
If you are interested in getting a Note 10 Lite. Why not just get the Note 9? As it is flagship device and has more features that the Note 10 Lite.
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If you are interested in getting a Note 10 Lite. Why not just get the Note 9? As it is flagship device and has more features that the Note 10 Lite.
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A good question is where to buy new note 9 in 2020...
I love the note10 lite, but it's too hot (not like sexy girl!). The Exynos 9810 heats up even under light load. And in games, like Pascals Wager, becomes an oven. Also note10 lite does not hold the cellular signal very well.
Otherwise it's a great middle-range smartphone, with a good camera and performance
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A good question is where to buy new note 9 in 2020...
I love the note10 lite, but it's too hot (not like sexy girl!). The Exynos 9810 heats up even under light load. And in games, like Pascals Wager, becomes an oven. Also note10 lite does not hold the cellular signal very well.
Otherwise it's a great middle-range smartphone, with a good camera and performance
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You can easily find a brand new unit on eBay or any other reputable online retailer. You might be able to find one in a 3rd party high street retailer. I have the N960N (which is powered by the Exynos 9810) and it doesn't heat up that much, unless I have my Note 9 under heavy load
Okay so here is the deal. I currently own a Moto Maxx (xt1225), which is old and dying. I can't find a good offer on the older note models like 9 or 8. BUT i can grab a Note 10 lite for around 360 bucks. Is it worth it? For all i know this is pretty much a S9 with an S-Pen. My problem is that the XDA scene does not look promising and my experience with moto maxx was pretty bad cause it was nearly dead too. I had an galaxy S2 and it was awesome lot of development! But i don't wanna get stuck with another dead phone for 6 years again, any thoughts?
Well seems I'll be posting the first post here. Planning to get the P4A at release to upgrade my pixel 2xl.
Debating whether to get the 4 or the 4a, but the better battery life, dual SIM support are better for me than the soli radar crap.
Following, in the same boat, Pixel 2xl camera crashed and unusable for a month now. Phone becoming so slow.
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Following, in the same boat, Pixel 2xl camera crashed and unusable for a month now. Phone becoming so slow.
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sucks to hear about your camera crashing man. Roll back to Android 9 and it should work, at least that's what I read about that issue. Seems that some hardware drivers got messed up while upgrading from 9 to 10, which is whats causing the crash for the camera in ur case and various other hardware issues with other users. I don't know if it would fix it, worth the shot. Make sure u flash the full factory image, and to make it brand new don't take out the -w and wipe ur device completely clean.
If it does work try to upgrade to 10 by flashing the full factory image.
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sucks to hear about your camera crashing man. Roll back to Android 9 and it should work, at least that's what I read about that issue. Seems that some hardware drivers got messed up while upgrading from 9 to 10, which is whats causing the crash for the camera in ur case and various other hardware issues with other users. I don't know if it would fix it, worth the shot. Make sure u flash the full factory image, and to make it brand new don't take out the -w and wipe ur device completely clean.
If it does work try to upgrade to 10 by flashing the full factory image.
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I would try that but then I would be locked out of my work computer. Have to have camera to scan code. But definitely will try that after I decide on which phone to upgrade to. Twice after this post my phone quit responding to touches and had to reboot it to work.
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Well seems I'll be posting the first post here. Planning to get the P4A at release to upgrade my pixel 2xl.
Debating whether to get the 4 or the 4a, but the better battery life, dual SIM support are better for me than the soli radar crap.
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In the same boat here. I have the 2XL and though I'd love to keep this phone forever, it's starting to experience its fair share of issues. I'm waiting for the 4A. A few of my friends have the 4 and from their experience, Soli hasn't been worth it. Lots of complaints about missing the fingerprint scanner. Besides, not many Android apps support Face ID.
Unlikely the 4A will have an IP68 (or any) rating but that seems like the only downfall of the device. I'm excited to keep my fingerprint reader, dual SIM, and regain a headphone jack.
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In the same boat here. I have the 2XL and though I'd love to keep this phone forever, it's starting to experience its fair share of issues. I'm waiting for the 4A. A few of my friends have the 4 and from their experience, Soli hasn't been worth it. Lots of complaints about missing the fingerprint scanner. Besides, not many Android apps support Face ID.
Unlikely the 4A will have an IP68 (or any) rating but that seems like the only downfall of the device. I'm excited to keep my fingerprint reader, dual SIM, and regain a headphone jack.
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There is not much price difference with the current discounts that's why I'm torn.
Pixel 4xl
Pros: better soc, better screen, marginally better camera, IP68
Cons: battery life
Pixel 4a
Pros: battery life, dual SIM
Cons: mid-range SOC, marginally worse camera, smaller screen, no IP rating.
As far as the SOC goes, the 730 soc processor should be the same performance as the pixel 3XL in apps which is fine, but will be like the 2xl in games due to the much worse GPU. Should be a whole lot more efficient on battery though. I don't play much games but I hate stutters and lags. Carrying more than 1 phone is also a pain in my a**. I really hope it performs well with no stutters.
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There is not much price difference with the current discounts that's why I'm torn.
Pixel 4xl
Pros: better soc, better screen, marginally better camera, IP68
Cons: battery life
Pixel 4a
Pros: battery life, dual SIM
Cons: mid-range SOC, marginally worse camera, smaller screen, no IP rating.
As far as the SOC goes, the 730 soc processor should be the same performance as the pixel 3XL in apps which is fine, but will be like the 2xl in games due to the much worse GPU. Should be a whole lot more efficient on battery though. I don't play much games but I hate stutters and lags. Carrying more than 1 phone is also a pain in my a**. I really hope it performs well with no stutters.
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I recently upgraded to the 3a xl from the 2 xl. I love it. My wife had the original pixel xl so it was time to upggrade again. I was going to wait for the 4axl since i love the 3a so much. But as was said with the price drop I decided to get the 4xl. The main reason being I had my 3a for 3 days and accidently dropped it in water now I had flagship phones for a long time so i wasnt worried till i realized this phone is not ip rated. so i had to warrenty exchange it after only 3 days. So now my wife has 3a and I have 4. I have to say despite all the reviews the battery life on the 4xl is great. It is certianly on par with all the other pixel xl models I have had. And the only one i did not have was the 3xl. Now the 3axl is a different story that phone has legendary battery life because of its upper mid range processer. But My advice is if you need ip rated phone go for the 4xl. The smaller 4 is where the batttery really becomes an issue from what I have read and I read alot as you can see I am a big google fan had every phone starting with the n6p. oh and back in the day I had a galaxy nexus because I was a samsung fan before that.
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I recently upgraded to the 3a xl from the 2 xl. I love it. My wife had the original pixel xl so it was time to upggrade again. I was going to wait for the 4axl since i love the 3a so much. But as was said with the price drop I decided to get the 4xl. The main reason being I had my 3a for 3 days and accidently dropped it in water now I had flagship phones for a long time so i wasnt worried till i realized this phone is not ip rated. so i had to warrenty exchange it after only 3 days. So now my wife has 3a and I have 4. I have to say despite all the reviews the battery life on the 4xl is great. It is certianly on par with all the other pixel xl models I have had. And the only one i did not have was the 3xl. Now the 3axl is a different story that phone has legendary battery life because of its upper mid range processer. But My advice is if you need ip rated phone go for the 4xl. The smaller 4 is where the batttery really becomes an issue from what I have read and I read alot as you can see I am a big google fan had every phone starting with the n6p. oh and back in the day I had a galaxy nexus because I was a samsung fan before that.
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That's is my issue, I want the IP rating but I also want the power efficient processor and the dual SIM. I guess I'll decide when it's fully revealed. Glad to see a Google fan, I still own and use every Nexus device from the Galaxy Nexus onward. The Nexus 6p is my all time favorite phone. I would still use it as a main phone if it's processor can be upgraded and get the battery replaced. Cheers buddy.
I've had all the Pixels, liked them all. I traded my P4XL in on an S20+. As before, I'm done with the Galaxy & ready to go back to my Pixel. The 4a looks good to me. A couple compromises but every phone has that. The price though. I've spent 2 and 3 times that for phones. This has to be the most popular Pixel ever. The only downside is the economic disaster at hand. Priorities have changed for a lot of people.
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That's is my issue, I want the IP rating but I also want the power efficient processor and the dual SIM. I guess I'll decide when it's fully revealed. Glad to see a Google fan, I still own and use every Nexus device from the Galaxy Nexus onward. The Nexus 6p is my all time favorite phone. I would still use it as a main phone if it's processor can be upgraded and get the battery replaced. Cheers buddy.
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The battery life on my 4xl is still really good and you can turn off the motion sence and the 90hz screen if it really is an issue. And I only charge my phone to 80 only 100 if I am going to be away from a chargers for more than a day and how often does that happen. Also o don't know what carrier you have but I'm on fi and I use esim. I could be wrong but I think o could pop a physical sim in and have dual SIM 1 physical and one esim. And my Nexus 6p was my favorite phone for a long time I did not have any issues with it until the end right before I got my pixel XL. The battery started getting crappy. My poor wife always gets my hand me down phones and she was stuck with it for a while till I got my.pixel 2xl. I even put a new battery in it and it worked ok for.a while and died within 7 months. That phone hadaa great start in life and a hard fall from Grace.
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I've had all the Pixels, liked them all. I traded my P4XL in on an S20+. As before, I'm done with the Galaxy & ready to go back to my Pixel. The 4a looks good to me. A couple compromises but every phone has that. The price though. I've spent 2 and 3 times that for phones. This has to be the most popular Pixel ever. The only downside is the economic disaster at hand. Priorities have changed for a lot of people.
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The only thing about Samsung is their hardware is untouchable when it comes to quality. For example the wifi radio it 5 times better than in other phones of the same price. But that software man. I just cant do it. It is a shame the phone has 8 gigs of ram and 7 of it is taken up by system/bloatware. ( and yes 7 gigs is an exaggeration but you get the point) when my friend got the s10 i thought about it because they say the new ui is not like touchwiz but i ran some tests on his brand new s10 and compared them to my pixel 2xl and yeah the s10 had some great features that at the time you could not get with any pixel but I gotta say my 2xl was almost as snappy as his s10 and it all came down to memory management and system resources being used by the s10. Both stock phones no root or anything. Yeah the s10 was a bit faster but the 2xl held up with its 4 gigs of ram and 835 snapdragon against 8gigs of ram and snapdragon 855 in the s10. Its all about knowing the os and how to use it. And google is the undefeated master of both. and dont say well google made android that is only partially true I put this in another post google made android alongside the great devs here at xda its their commits that google uses for pixel features and google watches whats going on here and what people are doing with android and they incorporate it into aosp and then onto pixel. anyway if your like the rest of us and strapped for cash right now you cant go wrong with the 4a. 4xl is still on sale and for that price its a good deal i think I grabbed mine up before things got really rough. Either way you will have a good snappy phone that takes great pics and never bogs down. Stay safe my friends.
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The only thing about Samsung is their hardware is untouchable when it comes to quality. For example the wifi radio it 5 times better than in other phones of the same price. But that software man. I just cant do it. It is a shame the phone has 8 gigs of ram and 7 of it is taken up by system/bloatware. ( and yes 7 gigs is an exaggeration but you get the point) when my friend got the s10 i thought about it because they say the new ui is not like touchwiz but i ran some tests on his brand new s10 and compared them to my pixel 2xl and yeah the s10 had some great features that at the time you could not get with any pixel but I gotta say my 2xl was almost as snappy as his s10 and it all came down to memory management and system resources being used by the s10. Both stock phones no root or anything. Yeah the s10 was a bit faster but the 2xl held up with its 4 gigs of ram and 835 snapdragon against 8gigs of ram and snapdragon 855 in the s10. Its all about knowing the os and how to use it. And google is the undefeated master of both. and dont say well google made android that is only partially true I put this in another post google made android alongside the great devs here at xda its their commits that google uses for pixel features and google watches whats going on here and what people are doing with android and they incorporate it into aosp and then onto pixel. anyway if your like the rest of us and strapped for cash right now you cant go wrong with the 4a. 4xl is still on sale and for that price its a good deal i think I grabbed mine up before things got really rough. Either way you will have a good snappy phone that takes great pics and never bogs down. Stay safe my friends.
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I can do with Samsung's crappy software compared to Google's stock Android, but the camera is awful man. Samsung's hardware quality is on par with iPhones but the camera still sucks even with their ultra phone.
Now that apple has got their **** together and I can say pictures are marginally better on iPhones now plus the iphone's video capabilities are untouchable.
Samsung has got to step up their camera game with software and drop the hardware approach on the matter.
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I can do with Samsung's crappy software compared to Google's stock Android, but the camera is awful man. Samsung's hardware quality is on par with iPhones but the camera still sucks even with their ultra phone.
Now that apple has got their **** together and I can say pictures are marginally better on iPhones now plus the iphone's video capabilities are untouchable.
Samsung has got to step up their camera game with software and drop the hardware approach on the matter.
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I agree with the fact that Samsung needs to try a little harder. Maybe less one ui bull crap and a little more camera optimizations
Hi all, I want to take you my experience. My daily driver for the last 3 years is a OnePlus 5. I'm very satisfied about it's performance, but I really don't like the camera and the videos. And now OnePlus prices are so unaffordable to take a new one. So, I decided to switch to the P4A hoping battery and camera will me easily forget my OP5
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Hi all, I want to take you my experience. My daily driver for the last 3 years is a OnePlus 5. I'm very satisfied about it's performance, but I really don't like the camera and the videos. And now OnePlus prices are so unaffordable to take a new one. So, I decided to switch to the P4A hoping battery and camera will me easily forget my OP5
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I almost got a OnePlus myself, have you tried the gcam mod for the OnePlus?
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/p/gcam-oneplus-5-5t/
Currently using Verizon Google Pixel 2 XL
Retired: Verizon Motorola Moto Z2 Play
Retired: Verizon LG G4, Model: LG-VS986
Retired: Motorola DROID RAZR HD, Model: XT926
Oh yes I tried, but it works better with rooted devices and I don't want to root mine now. If you have some version that works without root too I will download it immediately :laugh:
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Oh yes I tried, but it works better with rooted devices and I don't want to root mine now. If you have some version that works without root too I will download it immediately :laugh:
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I had a oneplus 6 when it came out. Gcam was very buggy, couldn't depend on it much. Still using my pixel 2xl, best pixel phone the every made to date.
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Oh yes I tried, but it works better with rooted devices and I don't want to root mine now. If you have some version that works without root too I will download it immediately [emoji23]
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You can try this one, hopefully all goes smoothly after install.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t/themes/app-arnova8g2s-google-camera-port-t3731001
Currently using Verizon Google Pixel 2 XL
Retired: Verizon Motorola Moto Z2 Play
Retired: Verizon LG G4, Model: LG-VS986
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I had a oneplus 6 when it came out. Gcam was very buggy, couldn't depend on it much. Still using my pixel 2xl, best pixel phone the every made to date.
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No doubt about that, they say even better than the Pixel 3 and 3XL.
Currently using Verizon Google Pixel 2 XL
Retired: Verizon Motorola Moto Z2 Play
Retired: Verizon LG G4, Model: LG-VS986
Retired: Motorola DROID RAZR HD, Model: XT926
If someone can help me. With the leaks I think we pretty much now what to expect from the Pixel 4a.
I have a dilemma though. The Pixel 4A is expected to release at the €400 price in a few weeks. But I can also get the Poco F2 Pro for €450. The issue I have is that looking at the specs and videos available, the F2 PRO has a lot better specs on paper. Larger battery life, HDR10+, big screen Snapdragon 865 so its 5G enabled (in case I ever need it).
I've been running Lineage OS in my very old Oneplus One. And back in the day I had the Nexus One. I would love to get the latest Google updates and I'm missing out on the latest assistant of course.
So I know many of you have been running Pixel phones and are looking at the Pixel 4A.
My question is. Is it really worth it going for a lower specs phone like the Pixel 4A over a phone like the Poco F2 PRO? And if so. Why?
Couldn't II get the same Google experience on the Poco F2 PRO later on by installing a custom ROM?
Thans for your help.
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If someone can help me. With the leaks I think we pretty much now what to expect from the Pixel 4a.
I have a dilemma though. The Pixel 4A is expected to release at the €400 price in a few weeks. But I can also get the Poco F2 Pro for €450. The issue I have is that looking at the specs and videos available, the F2 PRO has a lot better specs on paper. Larger battery life, HDR10+, big screen Snapdragon 865 so its 5G enabled (in case I ever need it).
I've been running Lineage OS in my very old Oneplus One. And back in the day I had the Nexus One. I would love to get the latest Google updates and I'm missing out on the latest assistant of course.
So I know many of you have been running Pixel phones and are looking at the Pixel 4A.
My question is. Is it really worth it going for a lower specs phone like the Pixel 4A over a phone like the Poco F2 PRO? And if so. Why?
Couldn't II get the same Google experience on the Poco F2 PRO later on by installing a custom ROM?
Thans for your help.
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My 2 cents after using all the Nexus and pixel phones up to the 2xl. Haven't upgraded since cause the 3XL and 4XL have sub par battery performance, more on the 3XL than the 4XL though.
The only reason I can not bare to use another phone is the camera. I was spoiled with the photo quality of the Nexus 6p which is still better than a lot of 2020 flagship phones camera performance. I upgraded to the OnePlus 6 from the Nexus 6p which was an amazing phone at the time, but after two months I switch to the pixel 2xl solely because of the photo quality from the cameras. Google camera ports are never reliable, you should not buy a phone thinking you will use it full time cause u won't be able to.
Pixel phones lack support except in the US. Always plagued with hardware issues and it's a lottery if you get a device without the issues. Since I don't live in the US it's a pain in the ass to even get a case or a screen protector and I have to pay for international shipping. I couldn't even file the Nexus 6p class action lawsuit claim cause I don't live in the US. God forbid if I break the screen or anything happens, I'm completely on my own. Honestly I'm kind of fed up with Google and their crap. I'm one of their most loyal customers but they do not care about their customer base while they just want to grow pixel sales, which is contradictive.
Also there is the news of Marc Levoy leaving Google after he basically put them on the map, cause imo if the pixel phones had the same camera as other phones it wouldn't have sold more than a few hundred phones ever year. This news comes with a lot of concern, imo the camera quality didn't improve much in the last 4 years (Nexus 6p). Phones from the Nexus 6p are very comparable to photos from the pixel 3XL. Very slight improvements every year, while apple just closed the gap this year with the iPhone 11.
With the discounts of the 4XL only real difference is
1- get a mid range phone with good battery life and possibly no hardware issues cause they are not trying to reinvent the wheel with this one, like they do with the pixel line.
2- get the flagship pixel 4XL but gamble on screen quality and battery life. I have seen people on reddit saying that their pixel 4XL has worse screens than their pixel 2XL. The screen on the pixel 2xl is the worst thing on it! And was considered a con when it came out.
After realizing that both choices are bad, I'm starting to seriously consider jumping ship to apple with the upcoming iPhone 12pro. With apply I would certainly get what I pay for in terms of quality, still with a list of disadvantage. But I would get official support world wide, buying accessories won't be such a pain in my ass and most importantly camera quality is now debated to be on the same level as pixels if not better.
This got way longer than intended.
TL;DR: The only reason to get a pixel is to have one of the best cameras on a phone. Other than that it's all the same with android, more or less. Specially of you root get into custom roms.