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I understand that these forums are most likely largely male dominated and some of my male friends were disgusted when seeing what I recieved today (and females)... but there are so many viewers there's got to be some girls out there alike myself who would go for this sort of thing~
I received this today:
http://imgur.com/a/GM7GD#0
I found it while contemplating getting one of these:
http://www.facebook.com/SoTotallyLame
But since they were too expensive I went for a cheap asian alternative.
Pros:
Very cute, ridiculous etc.
Your phone looks edible.
Good build quality - these bits of candy won't be coming off any time soon
Cons/practicalities:
Makes your phone a lot heavier (1.5x?)
Because it's so fat and heavy, it's a lot more difficult to handle the phone than not having it
Difficult to press the power button
The material they made the cream out of and a few other things is a bit sticky, so lint and dust will easily cling to it
Just looking at it will make you crave candy
I'm definitely going to use this for a few days to see how it goes.
It was roughly $20, took 2 weeks to get to me (1 week before I was expecting it). It came in a delicate white bag was well packaged. It had a nauseating plasticy smell.
Anyway, for those who are interested, here are all the cases in the store for SGS.
http://stores.ebay.com.au/directstation-aus/_i.html?_nkw=i9000&submit=Search&_sid=1029916421
If anyone has found them cheaper, please tell me!
hicough said:
I understand that these forums are most likely largely male dominated and some of my male friends were disgusted when seeing what I recieved today (and females)... but there are so many viewers there's got to be some girls out there alike myself who would go for this sort of thing~
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You've got a very frilly sense of feminity, sister. Anyway, you can buy cases like this in FocalPrice (cheap, no shipping fees) or DealExtreme. Like this one:
http://www.focalprice.com/MSA11X/Cute_White_Cream_Red_Ribbon_Strawberry_Cake_Phone_Protective_Back_Case_Cover_for_Samsung_i9000.html#.UGhuYYgqdUA
For reference, something like this:
http://www.focalprice.com/MSC31B/Butterfly_TPU_Back_Case_for_Sumsung_i9000.html#.UGhvaogqdUA
is the girliest I'd put on my phone.
it looks nice but i dont think it will be suitable for daily use does it? it would make the phone more bulky and it wont be comfortable on hand (for me at least)
It's funny I actually like most feminin accessoires like this case, however from a professional point of view it's pretty much frowned upon if you have your "own style". It's different if you are in an artistic field of work, but choice is pretty limited for men in usual life.
Like this pink case for example;
http and the : and the // and then the link: cdn2.mobielbereikbaar.nl/product/OX11365740/accy-flip-case-genuine-leather-pink-samsung-i9000-galaxy-s-i9001-galaxy-s-plus_0 and then add .jpg
really liked it for it's colour. I'm just a straight male guy, and I bought the black version for above reasons, but I actually like the pink one more, just for its colour . It's easy to say "to do as you like and don't mind what others think", which may be true if you are in high school, but it has its consequences in life for 18 and up.
ADD: you can't post links if you have less then 10 posts , and I do not like I need to spam before I can just USE the forums
The 10 post rules is there to stop the annoying spam bots. Don't worry, you will exceed 10 posts in no time
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The one and only thing that frustrates me about the Galaxy line is the lack of sports cases/bands that fit well, protect the phone and are comfortable. I've gone through a half dozen since the SGSII and they all sucked. And some were outright highway robbery for what they offered.
This Elevate Sleeve on Kickstarter looks like it has good potential. I'd back it, but the creator will only support bigger devices if he gets more than 25 requests. If anyone also thinks this could be the right sports case, head over and make a request for the SGSIV. There are other "sleeve" type cases, even a couple from Kickstarter, but they are just like the armbands, not real high quality, look cheap and still have that raggedy plastic face.
I was going to buy something similar from nike yesterday, but the last time I checked it out I didn't notice, it was for iphones/ipods.....I was seriously bummed.
Big thanks for posting this and getting my hope up a little bit!!
If I understood correctly, then they consider requests, not how many will actually going to buy this?? Everyone who even likes the idea....start emailing
The price is actually quite good too.....~10€ more expensive than the nike's long sleeves that were 50% off, but the elevate definitely seems alot nicer!!!
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The one and only thing that frustrates me about the Galaxy line is the lack of sports cases/bands that fit well, protect the phone and are comfortable. I've gone through a half dozen since the SGSII and they all sucked. And some were outright highway robbery for what they offered.
This Elevate Sleeve on Kickstarter looks like it has good potential. I'd back it, but the creator will only support bigger devices if he gets more than 25 requests. If anyone also thinks this could be the right sports case, head over and make a request for the SGSIV. There are other "sleeve" type cases, even a couple from Kickstarter, but they are just like the armbands, not real high quality, look cheap and still have that raggedy plastic face.
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Hope he didn't do too much so searching for that idea
http://store.nike.com/us/en_us/pd/forearm-sleeve-sleeve/pid-581614
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Hope he didn't do too much so searching for that idea
http://store.nike.com/us/en_us/pd/forearm-sleeve-sleeve/pid-581614
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Yeah, as I mentioned above, there are several other sleeve-style cases, but none that don't suck. I'm guessing you haven't used the NIKE version, which doesn't fit an SGSIV with or without a case on it, nor is it comfortable. Also the NIKE sleeve has the same cheap plastic face and the phone sits on the underside of your forearm rather than the top (very uncomfortable position when running IMO.) Sadly, it is still the best of the cases I've tried, too bad it doesn't work with anything but an old iPhone I use as an iPod.
I'd wager that this or even this were as much an inspiration as the NIKE+ sleeve for the Elevate.
If your criteria for buying something is that it be an original idea, your place must be empty. We don't come across may truly original ideas in the world we live in today. I'll happily take an innovation on an existing product in lieu of an original/bleeding edge product if it gets the job done. If we didn't buy better versions of existing products, we wouldn't have iOS nor Android devices, now would we?
That said, the Elevate is an unproven product, not unlike the betas we all like to run here at XDA, so I am not touting it as the end-all-be-all in fitness cases. From the specs and the prototype, it certainly looks like an innovation over the NIKE version. I'm also not asking anyone else to back the product. I'm just hoping that some folks will head over and chime in for the S4 so that if I decide to back it, I will have a case to receive.
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http://store.nike.com/us/en_us/pd/forearm-sleeve-sleeve/pid-581614
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That's exactly where there problem started, it's for the iphone...a tiny inferior phone.....a lot of useful stuff is produced for iphones/ipods only because they get to link their product with apple's name....but the rest of us have to suffer...
The approach on the materials is nice...shows that more consideration has gone into the product plus a possibility to get it for other phones as well....at least that seemed to be the idea behind this thread....
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That's exactly where there problem started, it's for the iphone...a tiny inferior phone.....a lot of useful stuff is produced for iphones/ipods only because they get to link their product with apple's name....but the rest of us have to suffer...
The approach on the materials is nice...shows that more consideration has gone into the product plus a possibility to get it for other phones as well....at least that seemed to be the idea behind this thread....
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Bingo!
And as of today, they only need 17 more requests to make this for the S4.
(Potential) Backers — Here's a quick update on the request count that we've gotten so far. Looks like S4 is our most popular so far. Not surprised. Just 17 more requests and we're adding it to the production list.
I put in my request yesterday! Hopefully we get enough for our S4's to be accommodated because this sleeve looks amazing! :good:
I've asked the maker to consider a semi universal sleeve for larger (not the largest, sorry Note folks) phones as this range is relatively similar in size.
Visual Comparison and SIze Specs
Found this kickstarter the other day and backed it. Seems to have a lot of potential if it'll fit the bigger phones (S3/S4)
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I'm not really impressed with some of the design choices, but the material is quality, the glue works well (allows you to peel and reposition numerous times, but still holds tight) The carbon fiber pattern doesn't look too fake (it has some texture and reflects the light at different angles)
I have since removed all of the side pieces and put it back in a case.
The front and back pieces are nice and I like them. I wish the piece for the back covered the whole piece of plastic, but as you can see it comes up short. and the ring for the camera is dumb... wish it would've been a clear screen protector instead.
questions?
screwyluie said:
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I'm not really impressed with some of the design choices, but the material is quality, the glue works well (allows you to peel and reposition numerous times, but still holds tight) The carbon fiber pattern doesn't look too fake (it has some texture and reflects the light at different angles)
I have since removed all of the side pieces and put it back in a case.
The front and back pieces are nice and I like them. I wish the piece for the back covered the whole piece of plastic, but as you can see it comes up short. and the ring for the camera is dumb... wish it would've been a clear screen protector instead.
questions?
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Hello Screwyluie-
In response to your post, we are disappointed to hear that you did not enjoy your wrap. We distributed the Beta testers with the intention of gaining constructive and polite criticism, however, your critique of our product fell a bit short of the intended goal. Rather than destructive comments such as your opinion that the camera ring is "dumb", we were looking for more useful commentary that focused on what could be done to improve the wrap. We ask that you go ahead and remove the post from XDA and Reddit. At this time, your feedback is not needed for our Beta Tester Program. We prefer feedback that is delivered in a professional manner and with good etiquette.
Weston
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Hello Screwyluie-
In response to your post, we are disappointed to hear that you did not enjoy your wrap. We distributed the Beta testers with the intention of gaining constructive and polite criticism, however, your critique of our product fell a bit short of the intended goal. Rather than destructive comments such as your opinion that the camera ring is "dumb", we were looking for more useful commentary that focused on what could be done to improve the wrap. We ask that you go ahead and remove the post from XDA and Reddit. At this time, your feedback is not needed for our Beta Tester Program. We prefer feedback that is delivered in a professional manner and with good etiquette.
Weston
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apparently you didn't read the whole thing, but thanks to jumping the conclusion that I assumed you would, which is 'this guy doesn't like our product, so his opinions don't count, he should remove the post"
I gave constructive feedback if you'll notice I said the camera ring should've been a clear screen protector instead.
Here's some more:
the thin side pieces are useless and a poor design choice. They don't do anything, they look bad, and come off very easily.
the 'broken' design of the headphone jack hole is bad.
the bottom piece overlaps the battery case and makes removing the back cover difficult
Even with a hair dryer the top and bottom pieces peel off because of the angled edges they have to apply to
the back piece, battery cover, doesn't cover the whole piece of plastic and as such looks bad and poorly designed.
I wasn't going to rag on your product since it is a beta test, I gave an overall neutral post, some good, some bad, and pictures so people could make up their own minds rather than me doing to for them. I also emailed you a much more thorough test result, and you never replied so after a week I posted my result to the internet in a manner that I saw fit.
this is constructive feedback whether you choose to see it or not. I'm sorry you don't like my post, but with no response from your company to the email I sent, I feel I have the right to post whatever I want, however I want it.
edit: I will also note that no instructions were sent with the skin, not how to apply, not who to contact with questions, no guidelines for testing/feedback. it is my estimation that you were giving out free skins in hopes of free positive press, and the intention of taking down the negative feedback. Either that or I'm forced to believe you have no idea how beta testing works, and you botched this whole thing.
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apparently you didn't read the whole thing, but thanks to jumping the conclusion that I assumed you would, which is 'this guy doesn't like our product, so his opinions don't count, he should remove the post"
I gave constructive feedback if you'll notice I said the camera ring should've been a clear screen protector instead.
Here's some more:
the thin side pieces are useless and a poor design choice. They don't do anything, they look bad, and come off very easily.
the 'broken' design of the headphone jack hole is bad.
the bottom piece overlaps the battery case and makes removing the back cover difficult
Even with a hair dryer the top and bottom pieces peel off because of the angled edges they have to apply to
the back piece, battery cover, doesn't cover the whole piece of plastic and as such looks bad and poorly designed.
I wasn't going to rag on your product since it is a beta test, I gave an overall neutral post, some good, some bad, and pictures so people could make up their own minds rather than me doing to for them. I also emailed you a much more thorough test result, and you never replied so after a week I posted my result to the internet in a manner that I saw fit.
this is constructive feedback whether you choose to see it or not. I'm sorry you don't like my post, but with no response from your company to the email I sent, I feel I have the right to post whatever I want, however I want it.
edit: I will also note that no instructions were sent with the skin, not how to apply, not who to contact with questions, no guidelines for testing/feedback. it is my estimation that you were giving out free skins in hopes of free positive press, and the intention of taking down the negative feedback. Either that or I'm forced to believe you have no idea how beta testing works, and you botched this whole thing.
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The post was read in its entirety. We absolutely do not operate as you described, rejecting opinions that aren't positive. This could certainly be evidenced by the dozens of negative reviews our company has received over its lifetime on purchased products, wherein the customer posted their experience in a professional manner, eliciting a swift response on our part to correct the issues. However, when a free beta tester product is mailed out, we expect the trusted few to behave in a manner of respect towards our company's desire to improve on the product, rather than publicly blasting the work-in-progress with disrespectful comments using derogatory terms like the aforementioned use of the word "dumb". Use of destructive language generally deems all additional feedback from the user to be invalid, in our eyes. If anything, it paints the reviewer as aggressive and, likely biased.
Your "more" section that you added, was actually of more help to our program than your original post, because rather than underhandedly insulting the product, it points out specific issues which can be addressed or at least explored.
As for the e-mail, we sent out many beta test units. That means that we have recorded the data we received relating to flaws in the design, but that we have not necessarily replied to every single e-mail, even though we certainly took each and every one in to account. Beta testing is something that a company designs to fit its needs, so it is not actually possible for us to have "botched this whole thing" just because we had different expectations for our testers than you saw fit from your own personal expertise on the subject. Luckily, it is up to us to establish the criteria we wish to see met.
If we wanted to give out free wraps for free positive press, I assure you it wouldn't have been difficult for us to do without disguising it as a beta test. Putting such excessive effort in to such a ruse would be ridiculous, since it would be much easier for us to just ask for people to sign up for free wraps. The instructions for application are readily available in the form of videos on our YouTube channel, and our customer support live-chat and [email protected] are always available to help with installation issues. In the future, please feel free to direct questions to them at any time and I am sure they will happily assist you. Despite your less than desirable method of delivery, we thank you for your participation and feedback.
-Katie
Perhaps in the future you should require a bachelor degree in english if you want someone to use a specific set of words. It is my opinion that the ring for the camera is DUMB (ie: unintelligent, foolish, or half-baked) That is exactly how I feel about it. I'm sorry you're not happy with my assessment of the part, but you wanted feedback and that is what I'm giving you.
If you're going to negate everything someone says because they spoke one word you disagree with, well my friend, that is ignorance to a degree only the internet could harbor.
I will counter, again. I said dumb (which seems to be your one and only focus) and I meant it, but I also told you how to fix it.
and again this whole thing stems from your inability to acknowledge my email. This post wasn't made for you. This post and the one on reddit were made for the people. I gave you a reply. Just in case you missed it here you go:
I received my test wrap. There were no instructions so hopefully this email is a good one to reply to.
I took some pictures: http://imgur.com/a/1zPgk#0
opinions... the thin side strips are silly, pointless, and look bad.
The top and bottom edge pieces aren't much better, plus with the curve of the phone edge they don't stick very well. The bottom one overlaps the back cover making it difficult to take off. Also on the bottom one the hole for the headphone jack is 'broken' in design which just looks bad/shabby/low quality
The front two pieces look good although they do have a tendency to collect lint/fuzz/etc at the very edge of the sticker.
The large back piece is very nice. it adds grips and looks good. My only complaint here is it doesn't go to the edges of the back cover. It would look better if it wrapped the entire back cover. However if you remove those silly side strips it's not as noticeable.
The piece that goes over the buttons is fine. I don't care for the circle piece for the camera lense, seems out of place and pointless. What I can't figure out is why you didn't do the inverse. Why isn't there a piece to cover the plastic around the buttons and camera lense, instead of pieces to go over them. Also the camera lense on these phones scratches very easily, I would like to see a screen protector, clear, to cover it just like the main screen.
I will continue to use it for a few days before concluding my findings.
Thanks
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That was meant for you. That had all my feedback and suggestions. This post was not for you. This post was to let people know about the product as I see it, 'dumb' and all. I intentionally kept it neutral with positive and negative remarks, and allowed the pictures to speak for themselves. Overall I'm not the least bit impressed with your product and I could've come on here and bashed it out right for the poor product I believe it to be. But I didn't and in return you seek demean me so that my opinion counts for less when others read it.
I'm disappointed with your company and it's response. Oh, and I saw your first post before you changed it... To prove I'm not being a jerk about this I'll not comment or repeat it. I emailed you your polite constructive criticism. I posted here my opinion in a deliberately neutral way to give you the benefit of the doubt. Let the people decide.
Have a nice day.
screwyluie
It's not right for a company to criticize you for your opinion which they solicited from you in the first place.
I have had similar problems with slick wraps in the past. In fact I refuse to use or review any of their poorly made products.
I was fortunate enough to find a company called stickerboy that makes some of the best skins I've ever seen. Their cut outs are very precise and cover almost 100% of the device.
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The post was read in its entirety. We absolutely do not operate as you described, rejecting opinions that aren't positive. This could certainly be evidenced by the dozens of negative reviews our company has received over its lifetime on purchased products, wherein the customer posted their experience in a professional manner, eliciting a swift response on our part to correct the issues. However, when a free beta tester product is mailed out, we expect the trusted few to behave in a manner of respect towards our company's desire to improve on the product, rather than publicly blasting the work-in-progress with disrespectful comments using derogatory terms like the aforementioned use of the word "dumb". Use of destructive language generally deems all additional feedback from the user to be invalid, in our eyes. If anything, it paints the reviewer as aggressive and, likely biased.
Your "more" section that you added, was actually of more help to our program than your original post, because rather than underhandedly insulting the product, it points out specific issues which can be addressed or at least explored.
As for the e-mail, we sent out many beta test units. That means that we have recorded the data we received relating to flaws in the design, but that we have not necessarily replied to every single e-mail, even though we certainly took each and every one in to account. Beta testing is something that a company designs to fit its needs, so it is not actually possible for us to have "botched this whole thing" just because we had different expectations for our testers than you saw fit from your own personal expertise on the subject. Luckily, it is up to us to establish the criteria we wish to see met.
If we wanted to give out free wraps for free positive press, I assure you it wouldn't have been difficult for us to do without disguising it as a beta test. Putting such excessive effort in to such a ruse would be ridiculous, since it would be much easier for us to just ask for people to sign up for free wraps. The instructions for application are readily available in the form of videos on our YouTube channel, and our customer support live-chat and [email protected] are always available to help with installation issues. In the future, please feel free to direct questions to them at any time and I am sure they will happily assist you. Despite your less than desirable method of delivery, we thank you for your participation and feedback.
-Katie
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Katie, you should know that your personal opinion on the wording chosen by a beta tester, has cost you future customers. Sad that you handled this situation the way you did. Your reasoning in the replies were just to make yourself and the company look/feel better about themselves instead of addressing the individual critiques. I'll stick with dbrand any day over your company
Haduken!!!!
After reading SlickWraps responses I would never use one of their products.
There is always Dbrand and they've always been upbeat while maintaining professionalism. They have LG G3 skins and their skins aren't even in beta. They've done wonders for phones and other devices and are recommended by tech bloggers a lot.
You certainly have not helped your case. Hopefully many people will see what you're about.
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Thank You!
Trolls be Trolling
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Professionalism? LOL
Do some research.. Oh, and see the OP unedited posts floating around regarding his "review". Nice.
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You do realize the more you continue this thread, the more people will see you behaving like a child throwing a tantrum in the name of your ummm company?
My thanks to the OP!
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Same to you.
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You do realize the more you continue this thread, the more people will see you behaving like a child throwing a tantrum in the name of your ummm company?
My thanks to the OP!
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OH, SNAP! Lmao......
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You certainly have not helped your case. Hopefully many people will see what you're about.
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I certainly never expected this. I had never used a skin on a phone before and thought this beta testing would be a good opportunity to try one and give a generally unbiased opinion. Now I'm just glad people have a chance to see the company for what it is.
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I certainly never expected this. I had never used a skin on a phone before and thought this beta testing would be a good opportunity to try one and give a generally unbiased opinion. Now I'm just glad people have a chance to see the company for what it is.
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For anyone who wants the real truth about this guy ^ contact me directly. He's honestly nothing but a troll who was set on never truly testing the product. Would love to show you DM from him which show his true nature.
Sad world we live in.
Weston
Slickwraps
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For anyone who wants the real truth about this guy ^ contact me directly. He's honestly nothing but a troll who was set on never truly testing the product. Would love to show you DM from him which show his true nature.
Sad world we live in.
Weston
Slickwraps
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Post it in here, please, I've nothing to hide.
I find this not very professional. Kind of embarrassing to say the least.
I to had similar issues with the product
Having come from a vinyl wrap and sign shop i tried the slickwrap glow in the dark. The material is not true wrap material in a sense as it didnt have air channels . this might be true for just the glow in the dark. the camera ring and side pieces to be honest are pointless in the fact that the have very little surface area . which equals hardly any adhesive makes it to the phone . i had a coupon code i used to purchase it . and to be honest i didnt feel it was the money as most of the pieces you dont use . just my 2 cents
Hi all, just wanted to share with you my detailed review of the new Sony SmartWatch 3 and how it stacks up against the SmartWatch 2. I've managed to get a developer version ahead of its release and must say that I'm really impressed with its design and build quality. My initial thoughts based on the press release weren't so flattering but after actually having it in my hands and wearing it on my wrist, I'm pleasantly surprised with how it has turned out.
You can read my review on my blog at
http://xperiazultra.weebly.com/home/exclusive-sony-smartwatch-3-android-wear-review
I've posted heaps of photos so please take a look! If you have any questions please let me know!
Nice review. Did you find out anything about how much the new watch will cost? As much as I liked my Sony SW2...Im ready to move on.
syounger64 said:
Nice review. Did you find out anything about how much the new watch will cost? As much as I liked my Sony SW2...Im ready to move on.
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Hi based on info from PC Advisor, "The SmartWatch 3 will cost 229 Euro, which converts to around £180. And that's the exact price for pre-order at Clove. The firm also lists a metal version which we weren't made aware of arriving in November at £215."
Thank you julz, please come to the smartwatch 3 section to talk about it if you want.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/smartwatch-3
I feel this watch will be the one to show the next generation of android wear. The guys who designed the terrible black wristband should be punished. A great piece of hardware with that wristband is a crime.
The colored one look better at least.
According to forum rule 7 & 11: Dear moderator, while this thread should support the development of the S2SA strap adapter for this smartwatch and bring news from the Kickstarter-campaign, it is not intended in any way to acquire customers or selling anything. Please inform me if any problems occur, so I will instantaneously eliminate them.
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January 18th: Design #1 (Model: S2SAS) is created.
January 18th: Design #1 is submitted for standard printing. (ETA next Tuesday morning)
January 19th: Design #1 evolved with round edge (Model: S2SAR).
January 20th: Prototype #1 arrived and got verified already. (see here)
January 21st: The kickstarter campaign got submitted to Kickstarter.
January 21st: Design #2 (Model: S2SAS) is submitted for standard printing. (ETA next Monday morning)
January 22nd: Design #2 (Model: S2SAS) is submitted for HD high resin printing. (ETA next Monday evening)
January 22nd: Alternative fixing method (Model: S2SASSW) (with screws) is mostly finished.
January 22nd: The kickstarter campaign started! (see here)
January 23rd: Alternative fixing method is finished (Model: S2SASSW). (see here)
January 23rd: Round version of alternative fixing method is finished (Model: S2SARSW).
January 24th: Design #2 (Model: S2SASSW) is submitted for HD high resin printing. (ETA next week)
January 25th: Prototype #2 (Model: S2SAS) arrived and got verified already. (see here)
January 25th: You can read about the S2SA now on Sammobile too, thanks to our member Jeshter2000!
January 26th: First watch strap applied on the S2SA and Gear S2, look at this nice pictures here!
January 29th: HD-resin printed prototype parts came today!
January 30th: The HD-resin prototypes of the models S2SAS and S2SASSW got verified, you can find them here!
January 31st: HEAVY METAL! All models ordered for metal printing! (ETA February, 5th)
February 1st: Supplier able to print with new model structure! (new ETA February, 10th)
February 10th: Stainless steel version is printed, first pictures from supplier here. (new ETA February 12th)
February 17th: Stainless steel version arrived and in work! You can find pictures here!
February 21st: Kickstarter campaign failed ! But keep the head up!.
March 3rd: Investigation for different suppliers or manufacturing methods.
March 31st: Development stopped so far, read this post for further information!
I want to thank you all for your support and beliefs in me! Maybe we can bring this idea to life anyway, I would appreciate it! You all are great!
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Welcome to the official project thread of the S2SA!
This project can be supported via a Kickstarter campaign. Just take this road to get there.
I would be very pleased if you join the poll to find out the common interest in this project!
Some of you already read from my thoughts about a new strap adapter for the Samsung Gear S2 Sport in this thread. Initially the named thread was started by our valuable member simlpyphp who also decided to do some development on a strap adapter. Unfortunately he stopped development because of prototyping reasons. If anyone wants to reuse his model and needs help, just PM me.
1 - Introduction
The year 2015 brought a big variety of smartwatches to us. Not only for me it was a hard decision which wearable to choose. Maybe the Pebble Time? Maybe the Moto 360? After some time, also Samsung came out with a great new device, the Gear S2! The rotating bezel itself as a whole new handling experience put this smartwatch at the top of my wishlist and now I have it. Samsung offers two (actually three with the 3G) versions of this smartwatch. The Sport and the Classic. While both of those versions deliver the same hardware inside (apart from the Sport 3G), they differ at their clothing. The Sport (and Sport 3G) version comes with a stylish and futuristic housing with a proprietary strap connector, while the Classic version provides a standard strap connector in a classy design.
When deciding to buy the watch I decided to choose the Sport version as I like to use it as a sports tracker, where it is more comfortable for the skin to not have a leather or metal strap at my wrist. Nonetheless I want to wear my watch at the dinner with business partners or other noble events too. So I came to the idea that it would be nice to be able to use noble looking straps in combination with our watch as well.
And thats the reason to invent the "Sport To Strap Adapter" - in short S2SA!
So those who bought the Classic version want to laugh at us poor Gear S2 Sport owners but the one who laughs last that laughs best!
The BIG advantage against the Classic version IS indeed the proprietary strap connector. While Classic owners have to fizzle around to change their strap or have to put the watch off at all when sporting, we can simply change the strap as we like. Put on the genuine rubber strap and go jogging. After coming back you're under for a shower and after changing your clothes for the big business day, just simply switch from the rubber strap to the S2SA with the already attached stylish leather strap and you're done. Under 10 seconds. No fizzling! Ready for the day!
The S2SA will work of course also with the Sport 3G version, so for those of you who had no choice at all between Sport and Classic, here is your turn!
2 - Let's talk about design.
So here we go! The following pictures represent the first designs that I created. Two different ones. One with a straight edge and one with a round. The explanation of both design will follow after the picture. I want to mention, that the plan is to create some different "clothings" for the S2SA too:
shiny polished stainless steel, that will nicely fit to the housing of both the silver and the dark grey Gear S2
matted stainless steel (maybe with a brushed steel look?), that will fit best to the housing of the silver Gear S2
and dark grey lacquered stainless steel to fit the housing of the dark grey Gear S2
While the straight version provides a more sophisticated design to meet the existing design line of the smartwatch, the round design meets a more minimalistic manner. There are two different type of people. One of you want no space between the S2SA and the strap and one of you like it to let the S2SA follow the contour of the watch. Nonetheless both designs only add up a very little amount of size to your watch!
I want to mention how the S2SA can get assembled in terms of the connecting mechanism:
While the easiest intention is to take the connecting mechanism from a spare strap that you have (what you will have, because you got two sets of straps and only use one), it is a little handicraft. This is also the cheapest method because we won't get into need of additional parts.
Another possibility would be to deliver the S2SA assembled with the parts already so you can plug&play it. That would be more expensive, also small parts are worth their money...
An alternative is to avoid Samsung's locking mechanism and instead of the seesaw (the little button inside) use two little screws that will fit into the indent on the watch.
Actually I (for my own set) would prefer the first/second kind of connecting mechanism because after some strength tests I came to the conclusion, that Samsung did a good job in designing the connector (although a common strap connection would be better ). However, the alternative will surely be stronger but you will need a screwdriver to put on/take off the watch. The decision is up to you :good: !
3 - Which models are available?
I started with one design and for now there are 6, while 4 will get relevant, so I have to summarize them to make it easier to see each benefits. I am currently working on a more detailed line-up of all the different designs (and model structures).
At first you should understand the naming of all the models, so it will get easier for you to understand the whole matter. So the model naming follows a very easy cycle:
S2SA X YYX : S - straight edge, R - round edge
YY: nothing - Samsung standard connector, SW - screwed connector
The following pictures shows a quick comparison between all the recent designs. While you can see the common design differences, you will get more information about advantages and disadvantages as well as measurements of all the models after the picture in the given table. If you have any other questions regarding other properties, please post them and I will add the to the table.
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4 - What should it cost?
As XDA-Devs is not a selling platform, I also won't sell anything here. The development will get funded by interested people mainly on kickstarter. I surely understand, that not everyone is registered at kickstarter and not everyone wants to do that. So for those of you, there are several ways to support developers work here at XDA. You can show the project to friends or help in acquiring possible suppliers to manufacture the parts or even donate some coins over the donation button near my profile picture... You know how to go !
Because some of you asked already for how to accomplish donations over PayPal!
When using the Donate-Button at the left side, you can donate any amount you want via PayPal, but that is regardless to this project (it is a private-to-private-donation with no additional securities). While I would appreciate your donations directly via Kickstarter, I want to give you the possibility to get the same benefits like when backing at Kickstarter with the same amount of security. SO: All of you, which want to donate something via PayPal to this project, please CONTACT ME FIRST! When it comes to donations, you have to donate not to private but to a commercial reciever. In this case you got the additional security from PayPal for a refund, when needed. We will talk about all question in detail via PM if you have some.
The price in the future depends on how much people support the work (in several sights) and how much are even interested in getting the S2SA. The more people want to have it, the cheaper it can be. Easy calculation. While it is possible to manufacture one set itself, it gets much easier when it comes to big series. To be able to make a better estimation, I would appreciate your votes at the given poll at the beginning of this thread! But for now it is not the right time to talk about that. But it should be effordable and should stay in a good ratio to the watch and straps itself.
Thats all for the moment! I would like to hear your thoughts and wishes! Every advice is welcome so let us come together to make our sweet smartwatch a little bit better!
Best regards
Gerhard
Looks great, you could follow on by making a bracelet to integrate into your design.
crustyeyez said:
Looks great, you could follow on by making a bracelet to integrate into your design.
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Hey crustyeyez!
Indeed I already mastered a first draft, where the watch itself sits inside a type of bracelet. But to not overcome the design process it takes some time to make things look good! Just stay tuned!
I'm very interested in this but planning on using a stainless steel band,or possibly a nice metal mesh band in black. I think the straight design would work best in this situation,or maybe the round one depending on the design of the stainless steel band. Would either of your designs work with a stainless steel band?
gregorz48 said:
I'm very interested in this but planning on using a stainless steel band,or possibly a nice metal mesh band in black. I think the straight design would work best in this situation,or maybe the round one depending on the design of the stainless steel band. Would either of your designs work with a stainless steel band?
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Hey gregorz48!
At the given first design evolution, all versions will provide best fit for the common watch straps we were used to in the past. So you don't have to worry for now which design to choose!
Nevertheless you might have to make a decision in the future which S2SA to choose because of the following:
Think about the metal mesh (so called milanese) strap. It is very thin and at the fixing point it will maybe show only a diameter of around 2mm.
And another possibility would be to use a heavy and thick genuine leather strap which also provides an elegant touch but will measure at the fixing point with up to 4mm.
Where at the first situation I am able to make the S2SA even shorter, situation two will require a little more space.
Please help and spread the idea to keep the thread up!
"Changes The Way How You Get In Touch With Your Smartwatch." LOL!
Zagzagel said:
"Changes The Way How You Get In Touch With Your Smartwatch." LOL!
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Isn't it incisive?
I updated the post with new information regarding the connection mechanism. You can find the new points at the end of chapter 2.
Here a quote about the new things as following:
I want to mention how the S2SA will get assembled...
While the easiest intention is to take the connecting mechanism from a spare strap that you have (what you will have, because you got two sets of straps and only use one), it is a little handicraft. This is also the cheapest method because we won't get into need of additional parts.
Another possibility would be to deliver the S2SA assembled with the parts already so you can plug&play it. That would be more expensive, also small parts are worth their money...
Additional there would also exist an option to integrate the connecting mechanism into the S2SA itself, so it would only be one single part. That option is possible but manufacturing those things is not that super cheap.
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Silberpfeil3110 said:
Isn't it incisive?
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The product is a good idea, but I think the tagline should read "Changes The Way You Get In Touch With Your Smartwatch" or "Changes How You Get In Touch With Your Smartwatch". There are some redundant words in there which amplify the fact that this is basically Marketing BS.
Zagzagel said:
The product is a good idea, but I think the tagline should read "Changes The Way You Get In Touch With Your Smartwatch" or "Changes How You Get In Touch With Your Smartwatch". There are some redundant words in there which amplify the fact that this is basically Marketing BS.
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Yeah I think that this is not marketing bull****, more it is a grammatic error, because english is not my native language
But nevertheless thank you for your help, I will correct it! :good:
Today the first plastics prototype from the 3D-printer arrived! Although we had some problems with the laminating process (environmental conditions seemed to be not good enough) and we had to change the design a little bit because of the material the first prototype looks awesome! I also see what I already thought of... there is enough space to reduce! I think about 1-2mm! So although there were some prototyping issues, you know how the S2SA should look like (CAD pictures) and the prototype is the first gusto piece!
Silberpfeil3110 said:
Today the first plastics prototype from the 3D-printer arrived! Although we had some problems with the laminating process (environmental conditions seemed to be not good enough) and we had to change the design a little bit because of the material the first prototype looks awesome! I also see what I already thought of... there is enough space to reduce! I think about 1-2mm! So although there were some prototyping issues, you know how the S2SA should look like (CAD pictures) and the prototype is the first gusto piece!
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Looking phenomenal! Keep up the great work!
As today I got the first prototype I already spent some time on refining the measurements to decrease size. I have to say I am very satisfied with the result. Just look at the picture and the explanation below...
The base/watch plane represent the edges of the watch. So BASE-BOTTOM at V1 was nearly 3mm while at V2 it is only 1,2mm which means that the adapter wont add any height on the downside as the watch itself is nearly 3mm down there. WATCH-BAR was at V1 nearly 5mm while now at V2 its minimized to 3mm. So while the watch provides a diameter of 50mm, the strap would be 56mm apart. And WATCH-END was at V1 a little bit more than 7mm and at V2 now its only 4mm.
Again I try to get the new samples as soon as possible to show you the progress.
Great work Do you have your own 3D Printer? I used my Robo 3D+ (with some upgraded parts) to make all my prototypes. They looked similar to yours though my design is slightly different.
I look forward to seeing your finished product, feel free to message me if you want to chat over Skype about ideas etc.
simplyphp said:
Great work Do you have your own 3D Printer? I used my Robo 3D+ (with some upgraded parts) to make all my prototypes. They looked similar to yours though my design is slightly different.
I look forward to seeing your finished product, feel free to message me if you want to chat over Skype about ideas etc.
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I was personally going to suggest you guys work together, I feel like you could both come up with an immaculate idea, being your both very intuitive in the field. I'll buy both sets either way. You guys rock, we greatly appreciate it.
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simplyphp said:
Great work Do you have your own 3D Printer? I used my Robo 3D+ (with some upgraded parts) to make all my prototypes. They looked similar to yours though my design is slightly different.
I look forward to seeing your finished product, feel free to message me if you want to chat over Skype about ideas etc.
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Hey! Great to see you joining the discussion ! No I have no own printer, but one collegue of mine has.
And I am also curious about further prototypes and the end product. The next days I'll get another one to verify the new measurements and after that I have to switch to high resin 3D prints. Not that cheap because I have to order it somewhere else but it can be done.
Silberpfeil3110 said:
Hey! Great to see you joining the discussion ! No I have no own printer, but one collegue of mine has.
And I am also curious about further prototypes and the end product. The next days I'll get another one to verify the new measurements and after that I have to switch to high resin 3D prints. Not that cheap because I have to order it somewhere else but it can be done.
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Yeah that's the problem with 3D printing prototypes, I might have it EXACTLY spot on in the PLA and ABS prints I make, but when I get it made in stainless steel their machinery is far more advanced than mine and could be even more precise... thus the tight fit required for the adapter and the clip (especially the clip in my case) will be determined as soon as I get my package tomorrow.
For you, if you're having to order everything, it will be a longer process especially if multiple tweaks are necessary. I sent you a PM as well.
Hello Sir!
I like your idea! I own the Sport 3G and I would like to wear also those steel element straps you find also on the Pebble Time Steel! I like your design very much and wow the prototype looks good! I showed the pictures some friends of mine which own the 3G version and they were impressed too! I'm looking forward to further examples!
Do you know when the next ones will arrive?
R41DZ3R0
R41DZ3R0 said:
Hello Sir!
I like your idea! I own the Sport 3G and I would like to wear also those steel element straps you find also on the Pebble Time Steel! I like your design very much and wow the prototype looks good! I showed the pictures some friends of mine which own the 3G version and they were impressed too! I'm looking forward to further examples!
Do you know when the next ones will arrive?
R41DZ3R0
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Currently I did all refinements based on the last prototype and the new design (which is updated in the opening post now) is already finished. It's now out for printing. I hope to get them the next days for further testing !
Great to hear from your interest!
Best regards
Gerhard
Silberpfeil3110 said:
Currently I did all refinements based on the last prototype and the new design (which is updated in the opening post now) is already finished. It's now out for printing. I hope to get them the next days for further testing !
Great to hear from your interest!
Best regards
Gerhard
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Thank you sir
I would like to see the applying method of the adapter like it's at the oem strap. It seems very strong and easy to clip on because I dont want tools. Will the adapter scratch the watch when applied?