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Cyclonezephyrxz7 is starting up a new XDA Marketplace for Android and Windows Mobile devices. Please check out the original thread for more information.
The address for the new marketplace will be http://www.xda-mp.com
The link to the original thread is:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=836964
UPDATE
Hello Everyone over on the ANDROID Forums,
Although I am not the OP of this thread, I am the main developer behind the new XDA-MarketPlace. I am here with a major update.
I haven't been posting much on this thread because I have been mainly working in the Windows Mobile one. Let me fill you in.
The website is quickly nearly completion. I was unable to hit my original goal of the New Year, but I have been doing my best to complete as fast as possible, while maintaining good code.
Many pages of the site are in fact done already. The pages that have yet to be finished are the User and Profile pages. The submission page is being RE-DONE.
Now, I haven't mentioned much of this over here ... but what I do need for YOU is to contact the developers of your programs and tell them to shoot me a PM with their E-Mails, or just telling me that they are interested in being alerted when the site is about to go up. This way, we can start the site with some applications!
Now, I have been feeling really crumby about not having the website out yet. I want you to know I HAVE NOT GIVEN UP ON THIS AT ALL. It has been taking me a lot of time. BUT I feel like I don't have any push because I have had at most 2 or 3 developers contact me. This website cannot exist with only 3 developers. I do need the member base to start this, so it can start off with a boom.
I ask for all of your support to make a cross-platform marketplace work for the community! I need it now more than ever
If you have comments, PLEASE POST THEM IN THE WINDOWS MOBILE THREAD [see the first post on this thread for a link] SO EVERYTHING CAN BE CENTRALIZED.
Thank You
This thread is for the discussion related to the NEC Renesas EMMA Mobile EV2 BSP/SDK.
For public information or documentations about the chip itself, please visit
http://www2.renesas.com/mobile/en/emma_mobile/em_ev.html#pageLink04
Why I am posting here?
This thread was originally started at slatedroid.com by one member who had drawn my attention there.
The reason I was interested was because there was a community of Rena3/Opad users there who are having an active discussion of things related to Android tablets based on NEC Renesas EMMA Mobile EV2 chip. The community there are interested to port Cyanogenmod to Rena3/Opad or develop a custom ROM for the Rena3/Opad tablet.
Part of reason they want a custom ROM was because Rena3's firmware is badly implemented. Users have reported many bugs on it and the chip's performance is not fully optimized to utilize its two cpu either.
Their problem is that the source code of the NEC Renesas EMMA Mobile EV2 chip is not publically available, so they can't really do anything other than simple modifications.
However, I have previously stumbled upon the NEC Renesas EMMA Mobile EV2 BSP/SDK somewhere on the internet. With the help of interested developer, in slatedroid's SDK thread, I have confirmed that the BSP/SDK I have is the NEC Renesas EMMA Mobile EV2 BSP/SDK that they need.
I was planning to make it available on slatedroid.com but something I posted offended the moderators there..... And I was banned immediately without warning or recourse.
The slatedroid member who had originally invited me to slatedroid was also banned when he was trying to help me to get my account re-instated.
Hence, I have no choice but to find an alternative forum to continue the SDK thread from slatedroid.com
This forum seems to be a good choice, that's why I am posting here now.
You can visit the original thread here
http://www.slatedroid.com/topic/21660-sdk-possibly-on-the-way/
I have attempted to post this thread on androidtablets.net but this thread was deleted within 24 hours of posting (My account with androidtablets.net is not banned and still usable though....).
It was lucky that Google have a cache of this thread, so I don't have to retype the whole thing again....
Note: the same thread is posted at
http://tabletrepublic.com/forum/cor...droid-devices-incl-tablets-custom-rom-90.html
http://androidforums.com/custom-rom...-android-devices-incl-tablets-custom-rom.html
I believe there are ROM developers here who may also be interested in this NEC Renesas EMMA Mobile EV2 BSP/SDK.
If not, I hope those member from Slatedroid.com would find their way here because I cannot make any post or even read slatedroid after I was banned.
With the help of fourgate from slatedroid, we have already uploaded the entire SDK/BSP on some file hosting web site.
About the BSP/SDK
So far, what we know is that the NEC Renesas EMMA Mobile EV2 BSP/SDK I have obtained is dated around april 2011. There are a number of known bugs inside the BSP/SDK which have been fixed by some vendors by now (September 2011), e.g. a lot of bugs were fixed in our Gen-E tablet by our supplier and we are now (September 2011) using a firmware is now running a kernel which is dated in August 2011.
In order to port the latest version of Cyanogenmod or AOSP, i.e. Android 2.3 or later to NEC Renesas EMMA Mobile EV2 based tablet, you can expect that some work is required to update the kernel and fixed bugs that have already been fixed before...
In addition, we noticed that the BSP/SDK I have obtained is not complete but do contains the most important parts that you need. Yes, kernal source is there....
To get you started, this is the release notes of the BSP/SDK.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/9d6f8e
Calling for ROM developers
If you are a ROM developer, capable of porting Cyanogenmod or AOSP to NEC Renesas EMMA Mobile EV2 based tablet, interested to work on this and want access to the source codes, please reply on this thread with the following information
1) State who you are
2) What do you intend to do with the file
2) What Renesas EMMA Mobile EV2 based device you currently own, if any. Or state none if you don't have one.
Once I see your post, I will sent u the download link via PM (please do NOT post the link I provide pubically but you are free to create a mirror copy of it elsewhere and post the link here.)
Why do I request these information?
So everyone knows who is trying to work on this because at present (17th October), because there are too few developers working on this and we would like to be able to contact them to seek update or have them available to help out other developers who are also working on this. I only know one developer, who found me through these threads, is actively working on this
In order to keep the BSP/SDK publically available, after you have downloaded the BSP/SDK, I would like to ask you to help us upload, host the file somewhere else and post a reply here to share the download link. Then, I will update the download link on this post here.
Public repository
To help with collaboration, I think we would need a repository to store/merge the code from different developers.
Most opinions received so far are to host these files at github (Or you have a better suggestion where we can put the modified source code?)
I am not a developer and I can't help on this. So, I would need a volunteer to upload and manage this......(anyone?)
nOISEVAULT said:
You can look here for the code.
I organized it in three repositories based around the tar.gz files in the SDK.
If someone wants to reorganize that's fine by me.
https://github.com/cAPSLOCK7
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Useful informations related to this
For those ROM developers who do NOT have a NEC Renesas EMMA Mobile EV2 based tablet, if you have proven yourself that you are genuinely making contributions towards Cyanogenmod or ASOP build for NEC Renesas EMMA Mobile EV2 based tablet. We are willing to provide you with our Gen-E tablet at a discounted price. Please PM me on this matter after you made some contribution here.
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You can use github for source code management
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You can use github for source code management
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Another developer have mentioned that before but the most important part is still trying to have ROM developers interested and then they are put the source code up on github.
Being a non-programmer, I can't do these....
Firstly, I am interested in doing rom development for the rena3 which I own (typing this very message on it). I am new to android rom development but not new to android or development.
But I have two questions.
1. Why are you getting banned from forums? At slatedroid the admin said you were only conditionally willing to share the SDK.
2. Why not upload the SDK to github and let us start working on roms for the device.
Something is fishy about this whole thing to say the least.
Managing Director
Portable Electronics Ltd // Seller of Gen-E Android devices
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nOISEVAULT, this is the answer on both of your questions
He's getting banned because moderators think he's promoting his products.
He cannot use github or smth else 'cause he's not a technical user, he's mostly like "people manager" trying to get his team connected to XDA developers.
So, ericwong, what do we need to get started? Can you upload an archive with current version to a file hosting so we can use it to set up a developer repository?
For example, you can use multiupload.com — it uploads your file to a number of free hosting services, so you can be 99,99% sure that the file will be available for about a month.
Oh, I see you don't know how to use github.
Then why not just upload the SDK to a filesharing service, and let the devs who will be interested take it and upload the code to github etc.
I don't think you will interest bees by just TELLING them you have a field of clover. You need to show them.
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For those ROM developers who do NOT have a NEC Renesas EMMA Mobile EV2 based tablet, if you have proven yourself that you are genuinely making contributions towards Cyanogenmod or ASOP build for NEC Renesas EMMA Mobile EV2 based tablet. We are willing to provide you with our Gen-E tablet at a discounted price. Please PM me on this matter after you made some contribution here.
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Portable Electronics Ltd // Seller of Gen-E Android devices
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ericwong, please consider that even this thread looks suspicious. We have no source code yet, but we have an offer to buy a «Gen-E tablet at a discounted price». Not a big surprise you were banned on some forums already. This is not the way the things get done.
Zombieff said:
So, ericwong, what do we need to get started? Can you upload an archive with current version to a file hosting so we can use it to set up a developer repository?
For example, you can use multiupload.com — it uploads your file to a number of free hosting services, so you can be 99,99% sure that the file will be available for about a month.
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One of the interested developer, fourgate from slatedroid have helped me to upload the bulk of the files to a file hosting. However, I have not heard from him since.
I have updated my post with more information, please read it.
I am be more than happy to provide you with the file if you are willing to help setop the developer repository.
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ericwong, please consider that even this thread looks suspicious. We have no source code yet, but we have an offer to buy a «Gen-E tablet at a discounted price». Not a big surprise you were banned on some forums already. This is not the way the things get done.
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I am ONLY trying to help interested developer purchase a unit if they don't have a unit to work on. There is no obligation to purchase. This is NOT an advertisement to sell my products.
I can certainly ask the only active developer to post here to update his progress so far here to proof to you that this is not a hoax.
I can also provide you with the actual source if you are a ROM developer interested to help on this work. (please read my earlier post again, I have updated it.)
As I said. I am interested in trying to work on developing roms for this device.
If you will give us a link to the SDK we can start doing that. Where is the link?
Well, i agree, this is not the way to get things done, put the code there, without conditions and people will join, put just a load of words conditioning resources, and you'll probably get banned again, i'm not a rom developer, but a programmer, i'll start reading about rom deving when i get my device (2 weaks or so), which has an ev2 (is probably the same, just put together/rebranded by a diferent chinese company).
There is quite some documentation available (with no conditions from renesas), this might be lower level than the required level to dev a rom, but probably, scratching a bit more, there is a chance to find more, as for specific components (such as wifi, 3g modules, gps modules etc...) they have to compile with the suported devices by this SoC i can't post the link cuz this will be my 4th post, but i can tell you that what i found is this:
EMMA Mobile EV Series Pamphlet (probably worthless)
EMMA Mobile EV2 Datasheet
EMMA Mobile EV/EM User's Manual (this might be the most usefull)
On the renesas webpage is also the block diagram for the SoC, still have to do a crapload of reading b4 i can even pretend to know what needs to be done to develop a custom rom.
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As I said. I am interested in trying to work on developing roms for this device.
If you will give us a link to the SDK we can start doing that. Where is the link?
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I have sent you a PM with the download link.
If you have high speed upload, feel free to upload it to github or other places and share it here.
Thank you
darkwingcraft said:
There is quite some documentation available (with no conditions from renesas), this might be lower level than the required level to dev a rom, but probably, scratching a bit more, there is a chance to find more, as for specific components (such as wifi, 3g modules, gps modules etc...) they have to compile with the suported devices by this SoC i can't post the link cuz this will be my 4th post, but i can tell you that what i found is this:
EMMA Mobile EV Series Pamphlet (probably worthless)
EMMA Mobile EV2 Datasheet
EMMA Mobile EV/EM User's Manual (this might be the most usefull)
On the renesas webpage is also the block diagram for the SoC, still have to do a crapload of reading b4 i can even pretend to know what needs to be done to develop a custom rom.
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I will put the link in my earlier post then
I know what link you mean....
Regardless of what documentation you find, without the kernel source, you are not likely to be able to do anything significant or porting Cyanogen Mod over. The source is only the starting point, I believe there are a lot more work involved which may not be documentated by NEC on how to make it work.
Please see my PM and let us know here what you can manage to do out of the code.
At a glance everything in this package is published under GPL 2.0 So there's no harm in working on it.
I am working on a github repository of the source code.
OK. You can look here for the code.
I organized it in three repositories based around the tar.gz files in the SDK.
If someone wants to reorganize that's fine by me.
look here:
https : / / github.com / cAPSLOCK7
I had to write the link that way since this forum doesn't trust me enough to post links yet.
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At a glance everything in this package is published under GPL 2.0 So there's no harm in working on it.
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Sounds good but even though it maybe published under GPL 2.0, I don't think anyone manage to get the code from NEC or elsewhere....
There are old threads of the same problem more than 2 years ago... So I decided to start a new one.
like this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426261
I don't want to waste time arguing with some of the opinions in the thread above or about the rule, so back to the case, I agree that people like the OP in the thread above or me are rarely seen. So I'd like to ask here if some moderator could help approve me as a member.
I plan to post in dev forum initiating a project that changes the behavior of Android Media Service. Currently Android Media Service always tries to guess the text-encoding in media files, resulting many messed tags in the library. But in fact there are standards defining what text-encoding of tags should be used in what format.
Please see some details at my previous post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57188174&postcount=466
So this is the motivation of initiating the project. And I'm an experienced developer with Android framework/kernel development experience. I want people in xda help with the development because I think most users don't take part in AOSP (Android Issue tracker in googlecode, for example) but take part in xda discussion.
Here is the github link of the project:
https://github.com/yumeyao/android_platform_frameworks_av
and the issue:
https://github.com/yumeyao/android_platform_frameworks_av/issues/2
and the issue I reported to AOSP tracker on googlecode:
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=81428
Thanks for reading (so long) and thanks in advance for help
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Never mind I can post now
Good! ?
Thread closed.
Hello dear ROM developers and users.
Currently I’m working on creation of a hub portal for android alternative ROMs.
Currently, most of ROMs are published on forums like xda or 4pda but they’re forums and are not designed to serve as developer community.
So I decided to create a hub designed specially for ROM development and sharing purposes.
The main inspiration for the project is GitHub.
The main goals are:
- Provide better issues reporting and collection (like on GitHub)
- Allow to rate the ROM
- Allow to search ROM by stability and etc.
- Simplify searching for ROMs for specific models
If you’re interested in this idea, please provide your feedback and share your ideas.
Thank you!
When you are smart enough to post an idea of creating a forum in a forum that does the same work.. ?
sammessi10 said:
When you are smart enough to post an idea of creating a forum in a forum that does the same work..
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It's not a forum. It's more like ROM repository
You literally just described XDA
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Hi people!
Although MicroG development seems to have slowed down, We know there are still thousands of people using this handy little piece of software to claim back their performance, their battery life, their storage, and above all, their privacy.
Using MicroG for beginners is no easy job. You might run into problems. You might wanna try different combinations of MicroG and Google (Hey, what's free software for?).That's why having a support system is essential.
Yes, we're aware that there seems to already be a Telegram group in the official MicroG OP. But to be honest, that group is crap. The admin bans random newcomers and old veterans alike for expressing their disagreements or being in another group, or randomly, even being 'Alts'. From what we've heard, discussion has basically bottlenecked in that group because of fear (Cannot personally confirm. Was banned for using Chrome).
So, here is the other group.
We're basically a set of channels and groups that discuss and provide everything MicroG, FOSS, and Android. We have guides and experts and cool reaction GIFs and whatnot to help you work through either your first or 1000th issue in MicroG. And guess what, we don't ban people for expressing their views or using Gapps (Though we still hate people that wanna sync Google Photos).
We also have our own, up-to-date (UNOFFICIAL) forks of MicroG with installers just with bumped version numbers so that no app will bother you with that 'Update Play Services' message.
The rules are quite simple. Please use common sense, and English. Both mandatory.
(On the request of the MicroG developer, we would like to assert that this group is quite unofficial. If you want Official, try your luck in russian roulette with the official MicroG group. Don't worry, we welcome you dead or alive)
Due to the new XDA rules about chats, we can't post our telegram links here, so here is our MicroG pack github, which links to our channel, which has links to our group. (might not be convenient, but rules)
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Please try to spread the word.
Good luck, and stay free (as in freedom).
I am here too. Not sure if you are on TG I9082 Group, but count me in mate. Lemme know what is needed of, and I will oblige.
Btw, the TG link for the channel is:
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To join the group chat:
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please read this
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s9-plus/how-to/telegram-chat-channels-forward-t3763967
Thank you !
Thanks dude, totally agree what you said, I'm one of the victims of the evil g333k.
btw I would really suggest you to use other browser than Chrome though, at least try ungoogled-chromium or inox
dic1911 said:
Thanks dude, totally agree what you said, I'm one of the victims of the evil g333k.
btw I would really suggest you to use other browser than Chrome though, at least try ungoogled-chromium or inox
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Firefox, Dual Browser, Rocket Browser. I use the last 2. They are best. Even Naked Browser is awesome.
rottenwheel said:
Quoting @devrruti:
Is there any way we can get a debloated package? Say, no GApps included whatsoever. GMS Core, Framework proxy and a couple of location backends along with Google Play Store (might be offered optional as @Shadow53's .zip files - one that comes bundled with GPlay and the other that does not have the Store,) that way, we may make the flashable zip considerably lighter and offer an option for hardcore microG users.
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Delete the files from the zip
rottenwheel said:
That's a hacky solution. It's better if you provide the solution from the release itself. But okay, every developer has the right to develop and do as it pleases.
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I've been working on the installer, but the primary devs are busy. Probably this wekend, we'll release a newer version of the zip with loads of new stuff, compatibility with x86/64, mips/64, magisk module support, customizable install, etc. Basically pack 2.0
rottenwheel said:
That's great news. I insist, making a debloated GMS Core, Framework Proxy with say, Mozilla and Deja Vu backends should be an appealing deal for those who want to avoid the package coming bundled with GApps and root installers. KISS - Keep It Simple Stupid.
As for a customizable install I hope you are not loading it with Aroma, huh. I don't intend to bring up a pun but, a simple flashable installer with the barebone of what's required for MicroG to work is fair enough.
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Nope. A text file, from which you can remove items you don't wanna install. But, still a WIP
Here is the latest version 1.4 from telegram channel mod edit - link removed
https://transfer.sh/gY3od/MicroG_Packs_Installer-arm_arm64-v1.4.zip
May I seriously ask, why Google Photos backup isn't implemented and what are the obstacles? Is there any way to help?
ashirviskas said:
May I seriously ask, why Google Photos backup isn't implemented and what are the obstacles? Is there any way to help?
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If you want to share your whole life with Google, go ahead and use normal Gapps.
What Are the benefits really of microg as I haven't had a single app fooled that I actually did have real gcf. Why install it at all? Unified NLP is cool (and I use it) but I don't get microg...
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What Are the benefits really of microg as I haven't had a single app fooled that I actually did have real gcf. Why install it at all? Unified NLP is cool (and I use it) but I don't get microg...
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Works fine for me.
Latest microg apk from mod edit - link removed
https://transfer.sh/dF3Nd/MicroG_GMS_Core-v0.2.4-118.apk
Sources https://github.com/NoGooLag
It's not a fork, it just bumps the version number to bypass the warnings from some apps that ask you to update Google services. Like Marvin did in previous occasions
What has been forked is the telegram group to bypass g333k
Hello guys !
Telegram links are no longer allowed on XDA if they do not belong to a developer as part of his development tools along with direct download links to his work.
Please read this Whatsapp / Telegram Chat Channels - Way Forward
That being said I have removed the links but I`ve left the thread opened for discussion on XDA as has been always, XDA is the place to discuss, random channels can`t be only advertised here.
Thanks for understanding
Dan - forum moderator
xanthrax said:
Hello guys !
Telegram links are no longer allowed on XDA if they do not belong to a developer as part of his development tools along with direct download links to his work.
Please read this Whatsapp / Telegram Chat Channels - Way Forward
That being said I have removed the links but I`ve left the thread opened for discussion on XDA as has been always, XDA is the place to discuss, random channels can`t be only advertised here.
Thanks for understanding
Dan - forum moderator
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Thank you.
The telegram channel is the most active and liberal place with microG related discussion. There is much off-toppic, noob bashing, dissing etc. I think it's good to have a corresponding XDA thread. Not for invitation, but for presenting results.
kurtn said:
Thank you.
The telegram channel is the most active and liberal place with microG related discussion. There is much off-toppic, noob bashing, dissing etc. I think it's good to have a corresponding XDA thread. Not for invitation, but for presenting results.
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No doubt about it although I've never used and never will a telegram chat to get info, to me, a healthy and properly organized forum is the choice, people can always discuss and also post a decent off topic at the OP's discretion here on xda, we just can't turn xda into a cool forum advertising cool chat links, one Google searches "microG xda" and what he finds instead of download links and feedback is a telegram link, isn't fair I would say, is it?
Short summary of last hours' discussion in telegram group: Marvin was there and gave us a lesson in FOSS ethics.
We shall not call the group or the microG fork "official"
We shall do pull request in github
Marvin does not care about fighting between telegram groups, but using bots or fake accounts in this war is not acceptable.
vdbhb59 said:
Firefox, Dual Browser, Rocket Browser. I use the last 2. They are best. Even Naked Browser is awesome.
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I use bromite browser,you can try it.Open source blocks ads
Souvikhazra80 said:
I use bromite browser,you can try it.Open source blocks ads
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I already use it. I use it as system webview as well.
kurtn said:
Telegram Post from June 2nd @ NoGoolag
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I tried to join this
vdbhb59 said:
I am here too. Not sure if you are on TG I9082 Group, but count me in mate. Lemme know what is needed of, and I will oblige.
Btw, the TG link for the channel is:
To join the group chat:
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I installed an app for telegram, but it requires a mobile phone number which I do not have. Is there a direct link to the newest apk of microG service ?