Best Recent Android Phone/Device for 400 Bucks? - General Questions and Answers

Hello, I've been on the market for something to replace my Nexus 4, which I use much like an Ipod touch, in the respect that I only use it on wifi and wont attach it to a cell service provider. I'd appreciate your input on what phone to get.
I'd like as many hardware features as possible, for a price range of 400 bucks maximum. The Essential phone, and Motorola Z2 play and Force are a few I had in mind. The Essential phone is missing a good camera, and I'm skeptical about Motorola after watching my dad try to navigate their horrible customer service. They killed his phone with an update and sold him a dud as a replacement, although some of the mods add functionality Id be interested in if you guys can recommend one they won't patch-kill.
I tend to use my device for a number of things, but virtually never as a phone. It just happens that nowadays most android devices that are small enough to carry in my pocket are garbage if they weren't designed with the functionality of a phone in mind. Past devices I've bought and liked are the Toshiba Thrive 10.1 and Nvidia shield portable, offering on board ports for HDMI and etc without adapters. I can live with using Type C adapters for a more pocketable device however. I like compatibility with other devices for data transfer or flying a drone, controlling LEGO Mindstorms, etc. I have not rooted devices for fear of ruining them, but if there is such a thing as "as close to being rooted without being rooted", I'd be interested.
Please note that I need these features:
*Android OS, preferably Oreo and better, pure android or better preferred
*USB OTG, type C plug, 3.1 for using an adapter to turn it into a workstation via HDMI, USB and ethernet ports added on.
*NFC for editing nfc tags
*Good camera for everyday pictures but also close up pictures of LEGO models in particular
*64 GB storage minimum, 128 and/or expansion preferred.
*1080P screen or better. I can live with or without whatever weird notch or bezel thing.
I can live without these but if they happen to be there then all the better:
*Headphone jack
*Fingerprint reader
*Water resistant/nanocoating
*Wireless charging
I've checked out XDA's recommended phones, but it seems their recommended phones cap off at the 250 dollar price range and without my preferred 128 on board storage or are missing NFC or something, unless I'm missing a separate "up to 400 bucks" article. They are all surely a vast improvement to my Nexus 4, but significantly under my budget while missing some things I'd prefer. I'm hoping I can just spend a bit more to hit more of my marks.
Thank you for your time and input!

Update/Bumping
Added more info on my preferences to original topic, I found out USB Type C 3.1 is what I need if I want to use an adapter to use a dock to give it Ethernet, HDMI out, keyboard and mouse support, etc.
Someone suggested the Nokia 7 Plus, a very good candidate though it has USB Type C 2.0, which supports data transfer OTG but not a work station dock. Still have to keep the 7+ in mind, has some good features despite this.

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[Q] Cheap coffee table Tablet

Hi,
Having had my Samsung GS2 for a few months now, I would really like a lot of the functionality on my coffee table.. the ability to do some web surfing on a larger screen, check emails, etc. But, of course, I don't want to spend a fortune!
So, I was wondering what gotchas I need to look out for around the cheaper end of the market for 7-10" tablets. It seems there are some dirt cheap no-name ones available.. like under £100?!
Many seem to run quite old versions.. do I need to care what version of Android it is running? Can I always just disregard the OS that it comes installed with and instead put on the latest Cyanogenmod or similar build instead? Is Cyanogenmod relevant to tablets? From what I understand of this, it's current core is Gingerbread, and I'm not sure I understand whether that supports tablets and their larger resolutions, or whether Honeycomb is the correct path. Is there a similar project to Cyanogenmod but aimed specifically at tablets?
I'd probably expect a Wi-fi-only model.. my thinking is, if I was away from home with it and wanted a mobile data connection, I could just tether my SGS2?
I'd like to be able to hook up to a TV via HDMI to play films - is that quite a regular feature of these devices, or would I need to look carefully for one with HDMI out? Is mini-HDMI just a small connector / converter lead?
I guess what is confusing me right now is the quite wide range of prices I'm seeing.. some tablets are around the £100 mark or even less (think I saw a Hanspree the other day), while many are up at £300+. Does that reflect the next gen hardware, i.e. Ghz-and-up and dual cores?
TIA,
JJ
Dude, Not a exactly match for the price range, but I suggest you the Dropad A8. Multitouch capacitive, It is fast, has mini hdmi output, usb host (where you can plug a 3g modem, gps or rj45 adapter). It is able to play every movie (rmvb even) and game I put on it

Suggestions on a portable display for Android phone

As my next smartphone will in all likelihood be the Meizu MX 4-core and will have MHL, it got me thinking that I might be able to set up a sort of portable desktop with similar form factor to a thin notebook. MHL out to a powered USB hub, an Apple MB110LL/B, bluetooth or USB mouse, and HDMI or USB out to a small monitor. Gives me better input than a tablet without having to deal with Windows 8 on the MS Surface. It also spares me from having to buy a new laptop or carry around my rather large, 7-year old Dell.
The trouble is I don't know which monitor would be useful. I figure a 11-14" screen would be best, but there aren't many options. Toshiba's mobile monitor can be powered by USB, but becomes much dimmer. Both are well over $170, which starts to get into my "is it worth it" price range. I'd really like something under $100, but if nothing exists in that price range then so be it.

my REVIEW of the LC-Power SINA-2 tablet

My review of the SINA-2
Introduction
About a year ago I became the proud owner of the first LC-Power tablet, the MIRA-1.
For its price it was okay, I was sort of happy but in the end, it was a bit slow for me and I sold it for a faster one the first chance I got.
Which brought me to the LC-Power SINA-1 that I bought in 12/2012 for ~ 200EUR (Germany)
I was happy and kept it, although it was not really perfect. The speed was what I needed, problems were WiFi Range and battery life.
I wrote a review for the tablet and posted it on this site.
Not too long ago I ended up testing another SINA-1 tablet. I came away from it with a distinct feeling that some of my troubles were not existent with the newer tablet.
I started some research and came upon some hints that indeed there are a few issues with the SINA-1 that will be repaired if you sent in your tablet (via. trader/distributer).
I am assuming that newer versions are manufactured or at least sold with the fixes in places and this is why I noticed less trouble with the newer SINA-1
So I contacted LC-Power. Unfortunately, they did not confirm nor deny any problems with the (earlier) SINA-1 tablets. All they said was if a tablet is broken and within its warrenty, it will get repaired or exchanged if your dealer sends it to them.
Long story short I began to think...
Do I really want to send in my almost-good-as-new (no scratches, well handeled, batteries not stressed much) tablet that may (my point of view) or may not (probably their point of view) have a defect which may or may not be fixed or get the whole device swapped out wich a much more used one.
No, and chances are, you wont too... especially when there is the SINA-2 available.
So I did some research and decided to just get a new tablet and then maybe send in the SINA-1.
So I became the proud owner of the new SINA-2
Specs / Comparison
The SINA-2 is the successor of the SINA-1. They are quite similar in hardware:
HARDWARE SINA-1 SINA-2
CPU ARM Cortex A9 DualCore 1,5GHz ARM Cortex A9 DualCore 1,6GHz
GPU Mali 400 QuadCore 250MHz Mali 400 QuadCore 250MHz
Display 10.1" IPS 1280x800 10.1" IPS 1280x800
Touch 5 Point Touchscreen 5 Point Touchscreen
RAM 1GB 1GB
Memory 16GB NAND Flash 16GB NAND Flash
CardReader MicroSD up to 32GB MicroSD up to 32GB
OS Android 4.1 Android 4.1
Networking 802.11 b/g/n, Bluetooth 4 802.11 b/g/n, Bluetooth 4
Camera Front 0.3MP, Back 2MP Front 0.3MP, Back 2MP
Connectors: USB 2.0, HDMI (micro) USB 2.0 host only, HDMI (micro)
Battery: 5200mAh 6000mAh
Size: 10.8 x 258 x 176 mm 10.5 x 263 x 173 mm
Weight: 0.603kg 0.601kg
I got the SINA-2 for 170EUR (eBay Germany, 15th september 2013)
Please note, the SINA-1 is still being sold and costs about as much as the SINA-2
The product name for both (!) is LC10TAB-A9-DUAL
Packaging, accessoires:
The box is very similar to the SINA-1... White, a picture, some text...
Inside, the tablet is safely lying inside a plastic bag and fit snuggly to the 4 walls with a rubbery foam.
Under the tablet you will find the accessoires:
a small micro-usb host cable, a normal micro-usb cable, the power adapter, and a piece of paper some might dare call a manual
First impression:
Again, the tablet feels solid but is not too heavy. It is lying well in the hand, is not too heavy and not too slippery.
Some other owners have commented on the "huge" gaps between the different materials on the SINA-1
The SINA-2 does not improve in that regard. There are still noticeable gaps between the sides, the front and back.
If this matters or not is I believe a point of personal preference, I feel these little gaps give a certain grip at the edges, others may feel a certain lack of elegance and lacking of strict manufacturing tolerances...
There are however, no hard/sharp edges noticeable.
Compared to the SINA-1 the SINA-2 is a bit longer but not as high. On paper, it is thinner too. The corners are a little bit rounder too.
However, I doubt that the differences will be noticed without direct compairing them.
Display (visual):
The 1280x800 resolution suits the tablet well. Text from websites looks sharp, picures look vivid, videos are great too.
The viewing angle is what you would expect from an IPS panel.
The further you move from the center field of view to the sides and increase the viewing angle, the worse the picture will get.
However, I dont feel tablets are made to watch one small screen with a group of people... Occasional sharing with 2-3 people will work fine if you stick your heads together but this is not.
The brightness (350cd/m²) is good, in fact, in a very dark environment you may want to lower the brightness a bit.
Contrast is ok.
The glossy display, again, could be problematic in very bright environments.
The background lightning is adquate transform. There are again, slight bright spots (especially on the left side) at the edge of the screen.
Display (touch):
5-point-capacative touchscreen.
Reacts well, no extensive lag noticeable.
The display is, just like the SINA-1, not too bad.
Yes, there are many better displays out there...
But are they out there for a similar price or for more than double?
For the below 200EUR price range a 10" tablet with 1280x800 is just fine.
CPU / GPU Performance
I did not run any tablet/mobile/arm benchmarks, all this is based on pure subjective feelings...
The tablet performs well. The SINA-2 is a bit faster then its predecessor, but nothing really noticeable.
For most operations the DualCore 1.6GHz ARM CPU will do just fine (and so did the 1.5GHz).
Browsing the web, running JAVA or FlashPlayer works well. Just like the SINA-1, this tablet can take firefox+addons+hackers keyboard without freezes.
Full HD videos work well, even over HDMI (1920x1080) and jumping around the timeline.
I have not tested the GPU performance extensively. So far, every game/app I tried worked well
(not complete) list:
- Terraria
- Magicka
- Pokerstars
- TempleRun
- Ampelini
- Burger
Obviously, this tablet will not be as fast as your new PC or the QuadCore mobiles and tablets...
Buttons/Connectors:
Like the SINA-1, the SINA-2 has only two buttons, power on/off and volume up/down.
This time the buttons have been put on the top left (I feel the SINA-1 placement top right has been slightly better).
The buttons themselves feel just like they should. They dont wiggle and have a distinct pressure point.
The connectors are placed on the left side.
There is only one microUSB port, working as both, USB host so you can plug in USB devices (sticks, mobile phones, 3G dongles) as well as normal USB
so you can plug the tablet into your pc.
Again, the HDMI out is mini-HDMI. The adapter does not come with the tablet.
The headphone jack is nothing special (3.5mm)
The power-in is the same size as before with the SINA-1.
However, the power adapter (looks the same) is a different kind.
Where the SINA-1 took 5V 2.5A, the SINA-2 now takes 9.5V at 2A !
The change from 5V to 9.5V is a bit surprising and might not have been a smart idea. True enough, even the SINA-1 could not be charged over USB anymore, but many power banks have adapters to supply power to different plugs. However, they all supply 5V.
With the new 9.5V DC in, the tablet may charge its battery more quickly, however, you may have lost the ability to load the tablet up with your power banks...
The jack itself got a much needed improvement. Where the SINA-1 plug fell out with the slightest of pull, the SINA-2 plug fits really well and needs much more force to be pulled out.
The microSD TF card reader is on the left side too. Some attention needs to be payed when ejecting microSD cards, the spring can throw the cards quite a few feet
The speaker on the back is okay. Nothing extra ordinary, just like the SINA-1. Quality is okay and loudness is okay too. It could be better but it works...
Software:
Android 4.1 is preinstalled and works quite well.
No real crapware is preinstalled.
Google Play:
Google Play is installed and working fine. The device gets shown as "Rockchip SINA-2"
I have not run into any problems with the shop and/or apps so far.
Note: if you own both the SINA-1 and SINA-2, the shop may actually get confused and show only one of the devices.
Both will be able to access the play store and download apps but if you log in the shop via your PC, only one of both devices will be visible.
To make the other tablet visible you will have to re-sign up (reenter email/password) to the play store from the device...
Battery:
The rechargeable battery got a bit of a much needed beef up compared to the SINA-1 (5200mAh to 6000mAh)
I have only tested a bit so far.
Playing video from a NAS via WiFi the battery will last 5-6 hrs.
To reacharge the battery from 0 to 100% will take ~3 hrs
The SINA-1 would have run out of juice way before that after 3-4hrs.
Almost doubling the run time with only adding ~20% more capacity to the battery leads me to believe that there is another factor at work.
I suspect the SINA-1 WiFi taking much more power than the SINA-2 ...
Connectivety:
Wireless LAN b/g/n is working well. The range and signal strength has been vastly improved upon the SINA-1 (and is back to the level of the MIRA-1).
Do not expect 300+ MBit with the n
Bluetooth 4.0: what can I say again. Its there, its working...
Ethernet: Support for USB to Ethernet dongles. Untested
Mobile (3G) Internet: Support for USB 3G dongles. A list with working dongles is available from LC-Power support. (might post it later)
Tried with mine, works...
Support:
LC-Power is usually quick in answering normal support emails, but they will not exactly fall over each other trying to resolve any exotic issue that might come up. Maybe if you speak mandarin and mail them directly at tech and dev headquarters in probably china you might have some luck, but I doubt that the LC-Power people in Germany, USA or UK or ... had much to say about developing the device and customizing the android (except of course, maybe some translation)
Also, do not expect regular android updates or any long time support and new android versions.
(this has been copy and pasted from my SINA-1 review)
Modding:
There is no active modding community for the LC-Power devices.
I had hoped this will change over time but apparently, not much happened in the last year.
Maybe it still will happen if enough LC-Power tablets are sold and used...
Of course, you still can do it all yourself. But do not expect a huge community or custom ROMs
Note:
Apparently, there is no good source (download link) for the stock ROM...
So if you are going to start modding, tread lightly. Make a backup and so on...
Rooting:
The SINA-2 does not come pre-rooted.
UNTESTED:
I expect the SINA-2 can be rooted just like the SINA-1
I will test it and post the manual later...
Summary and Conclusion:
When I tested the SINA-1 I wrote that I liked it (a lot). Unfortunately, due to the short run time, bad WiFi range and cardreader trouble (probably my device only) the enthusiasm did not last too long...
However, it was still better than the MIRA-1 and well usable with a competetive price...
Now to the SINA-2
It is just like the SINA-1 only better.
They fixed the run time, the wifi range and my card reader is working...
The dimensions of the tablet got changed but they are almost not noticeable.
The connector and button placement got changed, to the better or worse should/can not be judged objectively...
So all in all, the SINA-2 is what the SINA-1 should and could have been.
Now, should you get it?
This is not as easy as it used to be... When the MIRA-1 and later the SINA-1 were released, the LC-Power devices were "fast" and "cheap"...
However, in the last year or so, many other similar tablets in a similar price range have been released and you have more choices...
Still, I'll attempt to give some hints:
- If you need your tablet to be 3G, you may want to look for something else. Sure, the 3G dongle works, but why not chose one with built in 3G
- If you dont have a tablet and want one for browsing websites, watching videos and playing games at home on your couch as well as occasional taking it with you, you absolutely could get the SINA-2
- If you have the SINA-1 and it works for you, you do not need the SINA-2
- If you have the SINA-1 and it does not work for for the mentioned reasons, you may consider getting the SINA-2 and selling the SINA-1...
- If you need a fast, high quality tablet, and or need it to do work, or if you have more cash than you can spend... you may want to go for the high-quality tablets (nexus 10, samsung, ipad (shudder!), ...)
- If you want, ney, need a big modding community you need to look for something else
I am very happy with it and will sell my SINA-1 ...
How to root the SINA-2
Disclaimer: no guarantee, you break it, not my fault bla bla...
First, it was not difficult. It was done by the "root with restore by bin4ry method"
step 1: enable usb-debugging and allow installing of "foreign apk's" (or whats it called in english)
step 2: get a usb driver for windows (7 x64 in my case)
step 2b: since you probably wont find a driver, modify the google drivers from the android development sdk. add the line to the google.ntx86 and ntamd64 block:
%CompositeAdbInterface% = USB_Install, USB\VID_2207&PID_0010&MI_01
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step 3: add the file adb_usb.ini at /users/[username]/.android directory with the following line:
0x2207
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(i had to do this in my user account and in the administrator account*)
step 4: connect the tablet with your pc, make sure all drivers were installed and usb debugging is on
step 5: google, find and download the zip archive with the batch file, scripts and tools needed
(root_with_restore_by_bin4ry_v17.zip did it for me)
step 6: extract the archive, best to some easily found directory like c:\rootit
step 7: start a command line (cmd.exe) (as administrator?)
note: the actual rooting only worked for me when i started the command line as administrator
step 8: start runme.bat from c:\rootit, ch
step 9: choose method 1, wait for it to finish
TESTED, WORKING
This is the document I got from LC-Power when asking for a supported dongles list for the SINA-1 and SINA-2 tablets:
The device(with Boxchips A13/A10) can support below 3G Dongles:
Dongle List:
WCDMA:
HuaWei-MU509,HuaWei-E153,HuaWei-E156G,HuaWei-E160E,HuaWei-K3520,HuaWei-
E170,HuaWei-E172
HuaWei-E173,HuaWei-E176G,HuaWei-E1782,HuaWei-E180,HuaWei-E220,HuaWei-E22
6,HuaWei-E261
HuaWei-E270,HuaWei-E353,HuaWei-E1552,HuaWei-E1786,ZTE-MF110,,ZTE-MF633,Z
TE-MF637u,
ZTE-MF170,ZTE-MF633BP+,ZTE-MF190,SRT-H800,WU-830,WU930
HuaWei-E1550,AL720(Australia 3G dongle),huawei E303,LW272,LW273
CDMA2000/EVDO:
HuaWei-EM660,HuaWei-MC509,HuaWei-EC122,HuaWei-EC150,HuaWei-EC156,HuaW
ei-EC1270,HuaWei-EC167
HuaWei-EC189,ZTE-MC2716,ZTE-AC2736,,ZTE-AC2746,ZTE-AC2766,ZTE-AC2766,ZT
E-AC560,ZTE-AC580
ZTE-AC581,,ZTE-AC590,ST804,ST809,E1916,WU830,SRT-E800,C820 ZTE-AC2726,
Huawei-EC169C,huawei EC179
TD-SCDMA:
HuaWei-ET127,HuaWei-ET128-2,ASB T920
Usage :
Just insert the available 3G Dongle,and it will automatically dial-up.
Thank you so much for sharing.

Little Basic Help

I apologize, but I live 300 miles from any town with electronic stores to seek these answers, I also would be reluctant to trust a sales person anyway. I am a smart phone aholic and get tremendous amounts of good Intel on this site, so I came here.
I really need to update my laptop and am thinking of getting the new Surface. The way I understand it is you can buy a case with a hard keyboard, so you can use it like a laptop, and also take that off and make it a tablet. How do you install new software? Does it have a DVD, or do you connect to external? Is there any drawback to this device? Thanks
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If it's a Surface RT the only way to install software is through the Windows 8 app store. If it's a Surface Pro you can install any software you would on a PC including apps from theb Windows 8 app store. I'm pretty sure you could hook up an external DVD drive to it...
big70tom said:
I live 300 miles from any town with electronic stores
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I'm convinced you could only be living under a rock or a cave in the middle of nowhere. :laugh:
big70tom said:
Is there any drawback to this device?
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A Microsoft Surface is not a replacement for an actual laptop despite what anyone says. The answers to all of your questions is "Yes", however, you are still making a compromise. I love my Windows 8.1 Pro tablet, I use it daily, however you aren't going to be as "productive" as you would be getting an actual laptop?
The Surface (Pro) is a really good buy for the fun factor.
The thing you're thinking of buying is the Type Cover (the second generation one has backlit keys and is a bit thinner, but the first-gen one is cheaper and works fine). It's a full-size keyboard (that is, the keys are full-sized and at the usual spacing; it obviously doesn't have room for the full 104-ish keys of a desktop keyboard) plus a trackpad. It is not a case in any traditional sense, although it does work as a screen protector when "closed". It connects magnetically; removing it and reconnecting it is literally a snap (or perhaps "clack!") The magnets are strong enough you can fold the cover behind the tablet (although with the type cover this feels weird because the keys can move beneath your fingers, but at least they turn off automatically) or even dangle the tablet from the cover (not recommended but a cool trick anyhow).
Installing software is done the same way you would on any recent PC; you download it. The tablet has WiFi built in. There's a built-in store that can install and update "modern" apps, but you can also just download programs off the web/FTP servers/whatever. If you need to install off of an actual optical disk (CD or DVD) rather than a disk image (which Win8 can mount as a virtual drive), you will need an external optical drive that connects to the tablet using USB (there's a full-size USB3 port on the side of the Surface Pro). If you really need a wired network connection for some reason, you can get a USB Ethernet adaptor (they're only a few dollars) but that will take up the tablet's USB port. You can also use (USB) external hard disks or flashdrives with the tablet, as a way to transfer files including installers. I recommend getting a USB hub (ideally, one that can handle USB3) if you're going to use a lot of USB devices.
As for drawbacks, the biggest one is arguably that it's small. It's thick for a (modern) tablet, but at only 10.8" (about 28cm) diagonally, the screen is on the small size for a laptop. The case also doesn't have room for a lot of ports. You've got the aforementioned USB3 port, a miniDisplayPort, a headset (headphones+mic, like for a smartphone) port, a microSD card slot, the magnetic power connector (which is also where the stylus rests), and the magnetic cover port (which is how the covers send keyboard and mouse input to the tablet). No VGA (you can get a converter for the miniDP port, though), no surround sound output (the built-in speakers are ok for a tablet but nothing special), no serial or parallel ports (you can use a USB adaptor), no PS/2 port (USB adaptor), no wired Ethernet ports (USB adaptor), no card-reader for anything bigger than microSD (USB adaptor), nowhere to install additional storage or an optical drive (USB...), and only one USB port (hence the recommended USB hub). The Type (or Touch) covers offer very usably-sized keyboards, but a lot of keys are missing or require you to hold the Fn key at the same time. The next-biggest drawback is probably the price-to-specs ratio; while very attractive compared to other "ultrabooks" and high-end x86_64 tablets, you can get a more powerful actual laptop for half the price. The first-gen Pro also has a pretty mediocre battery life (5-ish hours) and a kickstand which only opens to one angle (which some people find to be not the correct angle for them). None of the internal components (battery, CPU, RAM, Flash storage, etc.) are removable/replaceable/upgradable, and the max specs of the original Pro (5GB of RAM, 128GB of internal Flash storage) aren't very impressive. There's also no dedicated graphics processor; the integrated Intel graphics are OK for light-to-moderate gaming, but not for serious gamers or any task requiring much GPU acceleration.
With all that said, it's a very nice, compact, lightweight 64-bit Windows computer with an excellent display (for the size), excellent stylus and touchscreen, very durable body (even without cover, though you really should get one anyhow), and good manufacturer support. It's usable as either a tablet or a laptop, and while it can't be said to be ideal for either, it's pretty good.
To give you any more advice on whether it's suitable would require knowing a lot more about why you're thinking of buying one and what you'd be doing with it.
Which I had read and understood a review like yours before I made a compulsive purchase on Christmas night! I purchased an RT 64GB version, not realising that it is not very well supported on the available app front.....no Google chrome and very few other apps that I have become to consider standard with my Samsung Android tablet. I think note in hind sight I should have purchased the pro version but the price difference from Tesco was GBP 400 vs GBP 950 for the pro. I agree that you should definitely get the cover keyboard and the old version (mk I) is on special offer at GBP 45 vs GBP 99 for the mkII with back light keys.
Oh and there is no onboard GPS receiver so forget navigation!
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[Q] What windows 8 tablet should I buy?

I'm thinking about buying a windows 8 tablet, but I'm having trouble deciding which one to get. There are a couple of options that I'm considering:
The Asus T100- The main reason I am considering this tablet is the included dock+keyboard and the fact that it has a full site USB port, which I would like for my FreedomPop USB dongle and my xbox controller wireless receiver. The screen is mediocre and the build quality is shoddy by several accounts. The processor is not the top of the line 3770, but the lower specced 3740.
The HP Omni 10: This is what I wish the Asus tablet was. This has a full HD 1920x1200 screen, compared to the t100s 1378x700 screen resolution. It also includes the best bay trail processor available, which is considerably faster than the t100. It also has a micro-hdmi port, which I would like for displaying movies in my college dorm tv. The only thing missing is that full size USB port. It has a micro USB port, but I don't know if a micro-USB to USB converter would be able to support things like the FreedomPop dongle, the xbox wireless adapter, and maybe an external hard drive. If it does support it, my problems are solved. If not, what are your suggestions? Do you know if those accessories can run under a micro-USB to USB adapter?
FroZebra said:
I'm thinking about buying a windows 8 tablet, but I'm having trouble deciding which one to get. There are a couple of options that I'm considering:
The Asus T100- The main reason I am considering this tablet is the included dock+keyboard and the fact that it has a full site USB port, which I would like for my FreedomPop USB dongle and my xbox controller wireless receiver. The screen is mediocre and the build quality is shoddy by several accounts. The processor is not the top of the line 3770, but the lower specced 3740.
The HP Omni 10: This is what I wish the Asus tablet was. This has a full HD 1920x1200 screen, compared to the t100s 1378x700 screen resolution. It also includes the best bay trail processor available, which is considerably faster than the t100. It also has a micro-hdmi port, which I would like for displaying movies in my college dorm tv. The only thing missing is that full size USB port. It has a micro USB port, but I don't know if a micro-USB to USB converter would be able to support things like the FreedomPop dongle, the xbox wireless adapter, and maybe an external hard drive. If it does support it, my problems are solved. If not, what are your suggestions? Do you know if those accessories can run under a micro-USB to USB adapter?
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What do you plan on using this tablet for?
Well, I have the Dell Lat10 with win8 pro. I got it back in the spring. It works fairly well, but I don't really use it often. I would suggest you make sure that no matter which you get, you might want to spring the extra for the full Windows 8, not RT. I know a bunch of people who got the RT and realized they couldn't do anything they wanted to do and were limited to the Windows Store for options.
GipsyDanger said:
What do you plan on using this tablet for?
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Basically, I want to lug it around in my backpack around college for taking notes, recreational purposes in the dorm, like watching movies, plugging it into the big screen, some light gaming with the xbox controller. I would also appreciate the better screen and more powerful processor. And I figured out the USB otg cable does work on the omni, so the obvious choice is the omni. Now I just need a good tablet holder so I can type using an external keyboard.
And by the way, to that other dude, don't answer just to answer haha. None of these tablets have windows RT; they both have full windows 8, the omni is $50 more expensive than the t100 at $400., they both sport a micro SD card reader and a micro USB, the omni has a micro hdmi port, the t100 has a full size USB port. The t100 has a keyboard dock included in the cost, while the omni has a full HD 1920x1200 screen compared to the 1378x780 screen. The omni also has a decently faster processor than the t100. So the omni for me is the clear choice.
Anyway, about that tablet holder: I just need something that will be able to stand on a lecture hall flimsy desk. Any suggestions?
I would look into the Dell venue pro 11.
Replaceable battery
Stylus with ntrig
Accessories available
Matches hp omni specs closely
Taking class notes on a tablet is rough without a stylus and palm rejection. You might want an ultrabook or hp split. Anytime you want to draw, write a formula, or place a device on uneven or small area input gets hairy.
FroZebra said:
Basically, I want to lug it around in
my backpack around college for taking notes, recreational purposes in the dorm, like watching movies, plugging it into the big screen, some light gaming with the xbox controller. I would also appreciate the better screen and more powerful processor. And I figured out the USB otg cable does work on the omni, so the obvious choice is the omni. Now I just need a good tablet holder so I can type using an external keyboard.
And by the way, to that other dude, don't answer just to answer haha. None of these tablets have windows RT; they both have full windows 8, the omni is $50 more expensive than the t100 at $400., they both sport a micro SD card reader and a micro USB, the omni has a micro hdmi port, the t100 has a full size USB port. The t100 has a keyboard dock included in the cost, while the omni has a full HD 1920x1200 screen compared to the 1378x780 screen. The omni also has a decently faster processor than the t100. So the omni for me is the clear choice.
Anyway, about that tablet holder: I just need something that will be able to stand on a lecture hall flimsy desk. Any suggestions?
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FroZebra said:
Basically, I want to lug it around in my backpack around college for taking notes, recreational purposes in the dorm, like watching movies, plugging it into the big screen, some light gaming with the xbox controller. I would also appreciate the better screen and more powerful processor. And I figured out the USB otg cable does work on the omni, so the obvious choice is the omni. Now I just need a good tablet holder so I can type using an external keyboard.
And by the way, to that other dude, don't answer just to answer haha. None of these tablets have windows RT; they both have full windows 8, the omni is $50 more expensive than the t100 at $400., they both sport a micro SD card reader and a micro USB, the omni has a micro hdmi port, the t100 has a full size USB port. The t100 has a keyboard dock included in the cost, while the omni has a full HD 1920x1200 screen compared to the 1378x780 screen. The omni also has a decently faster processor than the t100. So the omni for me is the clear choice.
Anyway, about that tablet holder: I just need something that will be able to stand on a lecture hall flimsy desk. Any suggestions?
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The omni seems like a pretty good tablet. I'd say wait until Black Friday and Cyber Monday to see if there are any good deals on more high end tablets, maybe you can find a deal on a Surface Pro.
HP Omni 10 otg?
I would also like to know if the HP Omni 10 has OTG-usb support and 3G dongle support, via an otg cable.
I found in internet the specifications and says: MicroUSB2.0 typeAB connector (Support Host Mode Only)
Does anybody knows if this means it may supports OTG via otg cable?
The Omni 10 has much better screen because is Gorilla 3, anti-glare and anti-smudge. I would like it had a keyboard included, but I hope a usb-keyboard can be connected.
Another interesting win 8.1 tablet is the Lenovo miix 2: 8''. According to internet comments it seems it supports otg.
Can anyone confirm the hp omni 10 has microusb that support otg?
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Can anyone confirm the hp omni 10 has microusb that support otg?
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Really late, but I can confirm It supports OTG

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