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[Q] Exteme lg flex 2 lag

I have had My sprint lg g flex 2 , for 3 days now....and I've been using it non stop. I was expecting a smooth beautiful phone...with the Qualcomm 810 but I can't even listen to Spotify and surf chrome without extreme lag, or an app closing out. The lag will come and go....and its actully lagging as i write this....i have nothing open.....I think its mostly a ram problem...and I'm so confused because they say the g flex 32 GB variants have 3 gbs of ram....mine is 32gbs....but I have 2....anyway...I've attached a video for proof of the lag...I've updated everything and everysthinga stock with about 20 apps installed....this is very frustrating because I didn't even have this much lag coming from my g2 and that's 2 years older..so I would love it if someone could get me some sort of help!
Link to lag video: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B1vU6325yeNnWmJacHlESFo0dUU/edit?usp=docslist_api

Chrome was my problem.
Left it and the overall experience is better.
Not perfect though.

erhnam said:
Chrome was my problem.
Left it and the overall experience is better.
Not perfect though.
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Lol definitely not chrome, it's my phone.... It could be a combination of Spotify, and Skype, and Spotify would is shut off it's mostly a ram problem

It's probably memory leaks. I changed my thermal throttling and I still have that happening. It's a known issue in 5.0. We will probably have to wait until we get 5.1 to see real relief. Often I am forced to restart my phone because it wont respond because it seemingly can't load anything else into RAM.

I'm pretty sure this is a ram issue. I've never experienced that with my 3gb model. Although the lag you're experiencing is what I had with my S4 with android 5.0 and it all got fixed when I upgraded to 5.1.

uh60james said:
It's probably memory leaks. I changed my thermal throttling and I still have that happening. It's a known issue in 5.0. We will probably have to wait until we get 5.1 to see real relief. Often I am forced to restart my phone because it wont respond because it seemingly can't load anything else into RAM.
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Ahhhhhh okayyy ...that helps I looked it up.....and I see that memory leaks are a common glitch in 5.0x other than waiting for sprint to push out 5.1x , is there any fix?

lowther_hall said:
Ahhhhhh okayyy ...that helps I looked it up.....and I see that memory leaks are a common glitch in 5.0x other than waiting for sprint to push out 5.1x , is there any fix?
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Unfortunately it looks like the best method requires Xposed which we can't install right now. You could try an app that will kill apps that are using a lot of memory. I don't have any recommendations though since I'm not currently using one but may end up trying it out soon since I'm getting tired of restarting my phone.

uh60james said:
Unfortunately it looks like the best method requires Xposed which we can't install right now. You could try an app that will kill apps that are using a lot of memory. I don't have any recommendations though since I'm not currently using one but may end up trying it out soon since I'm getting tired of restarting my phone.
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I'm actually using clean master atm...using the widget for a fast ram fix

lowther_hall said:
I'm actually using clean master atm...using the widget for a fast ram fix
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Does it seem to help?

uh60james said:
Does it seem to help?
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Hardly, it makes it useable though... Also the thing about xsposed, how come we can't use it, I know there is a beta for a lollipop? PS..... regardless I can't root because I'm on a lease with Sprint, can't risk, loosing the warranty ?

lowther_hall said:
Hardly, it makes it useable though... Also the thing about xsposed, how come we can't use it, I know there is a beta for a lollipop? PS..... regardless I can't root because I'm on a lease with Sprint, can't risk, loosing the warranty
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Currently there isn't a way to install the framework without an unlocked bootloader. It's possible that could change at some point but for now it's not possible.

uh60james said:
Currently there isn't a way to install the framework without an unlocked bootloader. It's possible that could change at some point but for now it's not possible.
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I was fine on my g2 installing xsposed on 5.0, but I did have an unlocked bootloader, I know there's a root method for the Flex 2, but I guess there's no boot unlock?

lowther_hall said:
Ahhhhhh okayyy ...that helps I looked it up.....and I see that memory leaks are a common glitch in 5.0x other than waiting for sprint to push out 5.1x , is there any fix?
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On my S4 with 5.0 it helped to run the app Greenify with root access. I would have it hibernate apps I didn't want to have taking resources in the background. Made a big difference for me. Even without the xposed features it helped a lot.

probaina said:
On my S4 with 5.0 it helped to run the app Greenify with root access. I would have it hibernate apps I didn't want to have taking resources in the background. Made a big difference for me. Even without the xposed features it helped a lot.
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I heard about greenify, I downloaded it about 3 hours ago, I'm not using it with root access but my phone hasn't been slow since

Question about XZ Dual's RAM usage in 7.1.1

Guys, I have noticed that after my XZ update to 7.1.1, RAM consume is really high like this. It's is used to be 1.5->1.7GB only, is there any thing wrong with my phone?
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mymoneyad said:
Guys, I have noticed that after my XZ update to 7.1.1, RAM consume is really high like this. It's is used to be 1.5->1.7GB only, is there any thing wrong with my phone?
i.imgur.[]com/QpUVZUX.png
i.imgur.[]com/AhTCTxw.png
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Xz dual 7.1.1

mymoneyad said:
Guys, I have noticed that after my XZ update to 7.1.1, RAM consume is really high like this. It's is used to be 1.5->1.7GB only, is there any thing wrong with my phone?
i.imgur.[]com/QpUVZUX.png
i.imgur.[]com/AhTCTxw.png
I'm sorry im new here and i cannot post link, please remove []
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well mine is even worst i noticed that my phone is using alot of ram no mather what rom i use...i tried almost every solution and i always get very little free ram and i installed same apps for years and i didnt have sutch problem on xperia Z,Z2,Z5 series...i have to restart my phone almost everyday so i can get fluid experience...really dont know why does ram go so high and its not stoping until restart... very wierd must say. XZ F8331

cocagenda2 said:
well mine is even worst i noticed that my phone is using alot of ram no mather what rom i use...i tried almost every solution and i always get very little free ram and i installed same apps for years and i didnt have sutch problem on xperia Z,Z2,Z5 series...i have to restart my phone almost everyday so i can get fluid experience...really dont know why does ram go so high and its not stoping until restart... very wierd must say. XZ F8331
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no wrong place.
open developper section by clicking in built number 10 times and open running services

karrouma said:
no wrong place.
open developper section by clicking in built number 10 times and open running services
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yea ur right i noticed that ...here is another picture it seems fine here.

cocagenda2 said:
yea ur right i noticed that ...here is another picture it seems fine here.
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1. 1free gb of ram is very good

well, my case is worst, at least i have tested on 3 phone atm, same regional. Whatever i do, my used RAM constantly stay at 2.5GB RAM.
I used stock ROM btw. F8332 model

I debloated my phone, and this is my RAM usage.
But understand this panel not shown really ram use in an android phone.
Run this from cmd or terminal:
Code:
adb shell cat /proc/meminfo
You can see only 112 MB free RAM available. this is normal for android (not linux and unix-like OS). for fast start up apps and switch between apps faster, android save data in RAM as cache.
for AOSP or Nexus phones (pure android rom) you can have more ram, but not above 400-450 MB ram (we talk about real RAM usage not you can see inside Settings app)

here is my mem test...it looks weird to me that it says MemFree is around 80mb but MemAvailable is 800+mb...maybe someone to explain a bit...thanks in advance

Yep since the upgrade I am having an absolutely shocking time with mine. Dual sim XZ.
Constantly chugging, have to wait 5 seconds to switch windows, rebooting fixes it for about 10 minutes. Closing everything, have uninstalled a bunch of apps but this is horrible - unusable!

even recording video is stuttering.. I don't know whether this is related to software bugs or really impacted from limitation of RAM capacity (only 3GB)

fluffygutss said:
Yep since the upgrade I am having an absolutely shocking time with mine. Dual sim XZ.
Constantly chugging, have to wait 5 seconds to switch windows, rebooting fixes it for about 10 minutes. Closing everything, have uninstalled a bunch of apps but this is horrible - unusable!
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I have the same comment exactly....

Yep video stuttering is also appalling I'm also having a lot of problems with typing I can no longer use Swipe typing as this Lags out and the words don't appear.
I've made a post on the support forum on the Sony website so here's hoping they actually see it and reply.

GenomeX said:
I debloated my phone, and this is my RAM usage.
But understand this panel not shown really ram use in an android phone.
Run this from cmd or terminal:
Code:
adb shell cat /proc/meminfo
You can see only 112 MB free RAM available. this is normal for android (not linux and unix-like OS). for fast start up apps and switch between apps faster, android save data in RAM as cache.
for AOSP or Nexus phones (pure android rom) you can have more ram, but not above 400-450 MB ram (we talk about real RAM usage not you can see inside Settings app)
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how did you debloat your phone?
does it require root?

eddieleon7pc said:
how did you debloat your phone?
does it require root?
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root my device
Remove unnecessary apps with uninstaller apps like "sd maid"
You can find my list here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz/how-to/huge-bloatware-list-xperia-xz-detailes-t3578758

mymoneyad said:
Guys, I have noticed that after my XZ update to 7.1.1, RAM consume is really high like this. It's is used to be 1.5->1.7GB only, is there any thing wrong with my phone?
i.imgur.[]com/QpUVZUX.png
i.imgur.[]com/AhTCTxw.png
I'm sorry im new here and i cannot post link, please remove []
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Mine was 3gb ram but after the update became 300 ram free left

Hi
I also have same issue. It came around 2-3 weeks ago and same problem is in my spouses Z5 Compact. In both phones it first appears pretty much same time. Is there some kind update that Sony hasn't inform about..?

fluffygutss said:
Yep since the upgrade I am having an absolutely shocking time with mine. Dual sim XZ.
Constantly chugging, have to wait 5 seconds to switch windows, rebooting fixes it for about 10 minutes. Closing everything, have uninstalled a bunch of apps but this is horrible - unusable!
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i have the same experience and it is driving me crazy

It's pretty bad here also, you can check the original Xperia XZ support forums on Sony support website. It's pretty much same situation there also.
Seems like a poorly optimised 7.1.1 update

chawlasrijan said:
It's pretty bad here also, you can check the original Xperia XZ support forums on Sony support website. It's pretty much same situation there also.
Seems like a poorly optimised 7.1.1 update
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My wife has the same Problem.

S8+ being laggy?

So my wife and I both got s8+ when they first got released. It seemed as if when we first got the phones, they were running flawlessly and fast as hell. Now a month or so later, both our phones seem laggy and sluggish. I always run device maintenance on both to keep things cleared up. Dunno what else to try. Wish we had root already so I can get rid of all this bloat and unnecessary stuff. Any recommendations from anyone? Dunno if maybe debloating apps or programs with a app is possible without root?

Same problem here !

albaniandroid said:
Same problem here !
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Idk what else to try. Wonder if anyone else is having this problem

powerstroke said:
Idk what else to try. Wonder if anyone else is having this problem
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Idk , i tried hard reset but still nothing its like im using galaxy s3

albaniandroid said:
Idk , i tried hard reset but still nothing its like im using galaxy s3
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So doing a factory reset didn't help? I've tried wiping cache in recovery several times and it doesn't seem to help much.

I'm just waiting for the OnePlus 5 . This lag isn't horrible but unacceptable at this point.

Tw has always been laggy sluggish.

powerstroke said:
So doing a factory reset didn't help? I've tried wiping cache in recovery several times and it doesn't seem to help much.
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It didnt help at all

Have you checked who the offenders are in your phone? Which apps/processes are running the most and see if they are 3rd party apps that ruin the experience.

Have you tried changing launchers, maybe try Nova

powerstroke said:
So my wife and I both got s8+ when they first got released. It seemed as if when we first got the phones, they were running flawlessly and fast as hell. Now a month or so later, both our phones seem laggy and sluggish. I always run device maintenance on both to keep things cleared up. Dunno what else to try. Wish we had root already so I can get rid of all this bloat and unnecessary stuff. Any recommendations from anyone? Dunno if maybe debloating apps or programs with a app is possible without root?
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I never faced any issues or lag except *bixby* for sure. I am using the exynos variant here i am not sure if it's something related to snapdragon chipset or not but
* we encountered lots of problems with note 4 snapdragon variants with emmc bug failure. The nand seems to be corrupted within 2 years and no solution for this kind of problem unless you buy a new motherboard
I bought this phone month a go and it runs as fast as it should
* my only advice for you is to try enabling debug GPU overdraw under developer option google it, definitely it's a 3rd party app causing this problem but in both phones i doubt.
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powerstroke said:
So my wife and I both got s8+ when they first got released. It seemed as if when we first got the phones, they were running flawlessly and fast as hell. Now a month or so later, both our phones seem laggy and sluggish. I always run device maintenance on both to keep things cleared up. Dunno what else to try. Wish we had root already so I can get rid of all this bloat and unnecessary stuff. Any recommendations from anyone? Dunno if maybe debloating apps or programs with a app is possible without root?
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albaniandroid said:
Same problem here !
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Are you guys using any of the Bye Bixby remapping apps? I had a slight lag but after uninstalling the app it's completely gone. By slight I mean I notice a little stutter when scrolling through my apps in settings, other than that nothing to complain about.

ggrant3876 said:
Are you guys using any of the Bye Bixby remapping apps? I had a slight lag but after uninstalling the app it's completely gone. By slight I mean I notice a little stutter when scrolling through my apps in settings, other than that nothing to complain about.
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No never used any of these apps !

powerstroke said:
So my wife and I both got s8+ when they first got released. It seemed as if when we first got the phones, they were running flawlessly and fast as hell. Now a month or so later, both our phones seem laggy and sluggish. I always run device maintenance on both to keep things cleared up. Dunno what else to try. Wish we had root already so I can get rid of all this bloat and unnecessary stuff. Any recommendations from anyone? Dunno if maybe debloating apps or programs with a app is possible without root?
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Try this...
https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?ur...share_tid=3616562&share_fid=3793&share_type=t
[Possible fix] Stuttering with the notification pull down and app switcher.

Disable the animations in developers​ options​
You'll see the change !

NexuStar said:
Disable the animations in developers​ options​
You'll see the change !
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That just hides it.
Galaxy S8+ Black

For me also it's the same...the shutters and lags are more when I unlock the phone after few hrours of inactivity and after using the phone for a while they seem to reduce...my one plus3 was way smoother than this phone...
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mine will randomly start lagging sometimes after long uptime i think, a reboot fixes it though

Yeah see how much free space you have left... on your internal memory? I have noticed that my phone is filling up with all sorts of crap from a couple games I play and stuff the little advert videos and stuff it's taking up gigs of space...

The only place I see lag in the UI was when using the stock launcher. On the Snapdragon S8+ that i have the launcher that came with the phone is the worst performing launcher I've had out of the box in my 5 years of buying Samsung phones.

really XZ became so laggy

Hi,
I have the dual sim version... since a quite long time I am suffering from unbearable lags... I am not sure, which update caused that and for now I am on the latest "41.2.A.7.35".. my symptoms are as follows:
- high RAM usage.
- phone becomes laggy so I know who is calling in couple of seconds after ringing
- switching between apps became impossible (like between GPS and phone call)
- sometimes I open it and I see the applications icons on the screen are refreshing like if I have just restarted the phone.
- i do 4 to 5 restarts per day to make the phone functioning but this is very annoying.
I found another thread in sonytalks about the same... they recommend to turn off google feed which is what I did 5 minutes ago and still don't know the result.
https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-XZ/Very-Slow-processing-what-happen/td-p/1240359/page/4
Do you have an idea, or fix, or shall I simply change the phone?
Thanks,

Same here.
Just sit down and wait for Sony release a new FW.

well i finnaly managed to get my xz working how it meant to... by unlocking bootloader....rooted.... and then flash latest ftf and andro kernel v28 and then i flashed rytekk`s battery perfomance tweak https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz/development/tweak-small-tweak-battery-memory-t3637240 and im happy that my xz really works now...definetly faster,smoother all around then stock non rooted.for me this is only solution...but im asking myself how they cant make a smooth stock non laggy device especialy in year 2017 where chips are so powerfull...and yea someone will say get an iphone but for me an iphone is like having an android phone with kernel enabled constantly to max perfomance with no downscaling LOL no wonder iphones drain so quickly...i just hope that brands will focus on software optimisations in the future and not so mutch about specs but yes at the end this is there strategy how to sell products.

anhyeuviolet said:
Same here.
Just sit down and wait for Sony release a new FW.
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seems i will switch to galaxy s8 after 4 months using xperia xz... my previous phone was galaxy s6+... just thought a change to sony will not be that bad... but i was wrong..

cocagenda2 said:
well i finnaly managed to get my xz working how it meant to... by unlocking bootloader....rooted.... and then flash latest ftf and andro kernel v28 and then i flashed rytekk`s battery perfomance tweak https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz/development/tweak-small-tweak-battery-memory-t3637240 and im happy that my xz really works now...definetly faster,smoother all around then stock non rooted.for me this is only solution...but im asking myself how they cant make a smooth stock non laggy device especialy in year 2017 where chips are so powerfull...and yea someone will say get an iphone but for me an iphone is like having an android phone with kernel enabled constantly to max perfomance with no downscaling LOL no wonder iphones drain so quickly...i just hope that brands will focus on software optimisations in the future and not so mutch about specs but yes at the end this is there strategy how to sell products.
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the problem is that i am not into rooting phones... as u said.. it is really surprising that a flag ship phone is such laggy like that....

a_k_gano said:
seems i will switch to galaxy s8 after 4 months using xperia xz... my previous phone was galaxy s6+... just thought a change to sony will not be that bad... but i was wrong..
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Sad to hear it. I changed from Honor 6X.
Honor is good with their EMUI, and it also has the best fingerprint sensor that I ever used.
But I need a water proof device, so I picked XZ.
Not sure it is a good idea
cocagenda2 said:
well i finnaly managed to get my xz working how it meant to... by unlocking bootloader....rooted.... and then flash latest ftf and andro kernel v28 and then i flashed rytekk`s battery perfomance tweak https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz/development/tweak-small-tweak-battery-memory-t3637240 and im happy that my xz really works now...definetly faster,smoother all around then stock non rooted.for me this is only solution...but im asking myself how they cant make a smooth stock non laggy device especialy in year 2017 where chips are so powerfull...and yea someone will say get an iphone but for me an iphone is like having an android phone with kernel enabled constantly to max perfomance with no downscaling LOL no wonder iphones drain so quickly...i just hope that brands will focus on software optimisations in the future and not so mutch about specs but yes at the end this is there strategy how to sell products.
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Good to hear that. So we can fix or wait for SONY fix it. I have no plan to root or flash any custom FW
Wonder why SONY always have good hardware but OS/Software is a true sucker.

anhyeuviolet said:
Sad to hear it. I changed from Honor 6X.
Honor is good with their EMUI, and it also has the best fingerprint sensor that I ever used.
But I need a water proof device, so I picked XZ.
Not sure it is a good idea
Good to hear that. So we can fix or wait for SONY fix it. I have no plan to root or flash any custom FW
Wonder why SONY always have good hardware but OS/Software is a true sucker.
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i think they dont want to push chips at max just to be on safe side...thats why maybe sony baterries and as a whole device can last mutch longer then Samsung devices...and did u ever heard about exploding Sony device?i still didnt...but if i pay 700e for a device witch is flagship i expect to act like one...why put a sd820 in a device when u dont even use full potencial...lamers...

cocagenda2 said:
i think they dont want to push chips at max just to be on safe side...thats why maybe sony baterries and as a whole device can last mutch longer then Samsung devices...and did u ever heard about exploding Sony device?i still didnt...but if i pay 700e for a device witch is flagship i expect to act like one...why put a sd820 in a device when u dont even use full potencial...lamers...
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Nah ... I just want my device running as fast as it can be.
BTW, removed Messenger Lite and FB Lite, RAM dropped from 2.5GB to 1.8 GB.
I think I should say bye to FB app. :cyclops:

seems turning off google feed helped so far... lower ram usage and better performance

a_k_gano said:
seems turning off google feed helped so far... lower ram usage and better performance
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well... after one day of testing... i wouldnt say turning off google feed and google now helped that much... it just delays the RAM filling... so the performance degradation will just be shifted and it happens

a_k_gano said:
well... after one day of testing... i wouldnt say turning off google feed and google now helped that much... it just delays the RAM filling... so the performance degradation will just be shifted and it happens
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Im alergic to lag and what ur experiencig made me so mad that i had to unlock booloader and find solution to it...but as i told before this is not official solution...Sony really needs to consider about that....why we have to root the device to make it usable for our terms....Im looking in to Nokias these days and hope they gonna gonna be good...and my last Sony phone is definetly XZ .Im not looking froward to it anymore.

Try disabling the app Movie Creator and see if that helps. That was the cause in my XZ.

Rille_lkp said:
Try disabling the app Movie Creator and see if that helps. That was the cause in my XZ.
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Just did that now... i will try and let u know

cocagenda2 said:
Im alergic to lag and what ur experiencig made me so mad that i had to unlock booloader and find solution to it...but as i told before this is not official solution...Sony really needs to consider about that....why we have to root the device to make it usable for our terms....Im looking in to Nokias these days and hope they gonna gonna be good...and my last Sony phone is definetly XZ .Im not looking froward to it anymore.
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same like me... this is my last sony phone ever.... the phone should serve me... not me to serve the phone by disabling half of my apps aiming for a stable performance... this should not be the case

In my case, it seems it was the the latest update of Movie Creator doing something and not related to the firmware itself.

Having the same issue with my XZ Dual. Laggs are driving me nuts all the time, rebooting doesn't help for long. I have also noticed that my phone usually have loadavg at least as high as 18 all the time (do cat /proc/loadavg in terminal). Pretty overloaded.
The quickest possible way to find our who is slowing device should be running ps or top in termnal. But unfortunatelly they have very limited output without root access. And getting root is such a pain for this device.

I've noticed that my XZ started to lag after the July security updates. Maybe it has something to do with that?

Mine was lagging since at least June. Did a full wipe (i'm on stock), lags returns after reinstalling apps.

had the same issue , disable the movie making app that came with the phone ,
last post here : https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-XZ/XZ-Lagging-a-lot/td-p/1227362/page/8

divanikus said:
Having the same issue with my XZ Dual. Laggs are driving me nuts all the time, rebooting doesn't help for long. I have also noticed that my phone usually have loadavg at least as high as 18 all the time (do cat /proc/loadavg in terminal). Pretty overloaded.
The quickest possible way to find our who is slowing device should be running ps or top in termnal. But unfortunatelly they have very limited output without root access. And getting root is such a pain for this device.
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well rooting this device its not even close to pain ...i unlocked also Z5 before without a single problem and also backed up DRM keys and restored also without problem..the same way is for our XZ everything is clear and tested before...i never unlock booloader if there is not no option to lock it back...i check first...but i dont advise u to do that if u dont have experience with adb and flashtool...wish i would not do all of that stuff for my xz but i had to cuz its the only way to get it working smoothly.

Question [Camera Failed]

Hello all. Often I get lag and camera failed error. It happens mostly when I launch camera from double press off power key, into video mode. The camera is unusable for some time.
*How do I update the camera APK from APK mirror. I always get app not installed when side loading system apps. This issue I had on previous Samsung flagships.

is the app your trying to sideload signed ? are you rooted ? sorrry they seem like obvious questions and i think i remember your name from back in the day on the evo 3d forum ??? so your not new to this, but had to check

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is the app your trying to sideload signed ? are you rooted ? sorrry they seem like obvious questions and i think i remember your name from back in the day on the evo 3d forum ??? so your not new to this, but had to check
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Thanks for reply. I mean they are from APK mirror but not sure if signed. I'm not rooted and have no plans to.
Hahaha you got me, I'm an old head lol. Haven't needed to get help often so yeah it's been a while

I would not side load this.
There may be a glitch with using the side key to launch it.
Try in safe mode to rule out a 3rd party app...
Keep trashware social media apps like WhatsApp, Tic-tok, FB, etc off the phone.
Clear system cache.
Clear cam data and try again.

thought the name seemed familiar, think weve crossed paths several times with various devices over the years, you would need root to sideload it im quite sure, as it would be trying to overwrite the original app

gav83collins said:
thought the name seemed familiar, think weve crossed paths several times with various devices over the years, you would need root to sideload it im quite sure, as it would be trying to overwrite the original app
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Noooooooo lol that's trash lol. I knew it was like this for a while but a always gave up before finding the answer. Sucks it's not like a patch as in the old days.
And yes lol HTC Evo and all Samsung flagships since the epic lol. Awesome we are still here

hayabusa1300cc said:
Noooooooo lol that's trash lol. I knew it was like this for a while but a always gave up before finding the answer. Sucks it's not like a patch as in the old days.
And yes lol HTC Evo and all Samsung flagships since the epic lol. Awesome we are still here
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Yeah I was hoping init2winit was gonna come back multibootibg on the evo 3d nine different roms was awesome

gav83collins said:
Yeah I was hoping init2winit was gonna come back multibootibg on the evo 3d nine different roms was awesome
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Definitely miss the days of flashing custom roms and having the phone freeze up so you miss your alarm to wake up for work lol

hayabusa1300cc said:
Definitely miss the days of flashing custom roms and having the phone freeze up so you miss your alarm to wake up for work lol
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lol, yeah especially with the evo3d it was great but custom roms were not great, i think maybe leedroid and king cobra were about the only stable ones, and remember the zeppelinrox v6 supercharger script , ah memories, those were the days

Go to Device Care and in memory clear the cache apps. Now try the side switch cam thing, after it launches go immediately back to Device Care and see what apps loaded since it was cleared.
It may give a clue to the cause. I've used this technique to track down some nasty little buggers. It's saved me from a factory reset.

blackhawk said:
Go to Device Care and in memory clear the cache apps. Now try the side switch cam thing, after it launches go immediately back to Device Care and see what apps loaded since it was cleared.
It may give a clue to the cause. I've used this technique to track down some nasty little buggers. It's saved me from a factory reset.
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Go to Device Care and in memory clear the cache apps. Now try the side switch cam thing, after it launches go immediately back to Device Care and see what apps loaded since it was cleared.
It may give a clue to the cause. I've used this technique to track down some nasty little buggers. It's saved me from a factory reset.
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I think I did it right

Clean it first to purge all the cache apps... if you didn't.

blackhawk said:
Clean it first to purge all the cache apps... if you didn't.
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That was after cleaning it lol

hayabusa1300cc said:
That was after cleaning it lol
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You can't clean the "reserved" apps?
I'm using the old banned 360 degrees variant, I firewall block it. Works really good.

blackhawk said:
You can't clean the "reserved" apps?
I'm using the old banned 360 degrees variant, I firewall block it. Works really good.
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Correct, I can't. Didn't know that was a thing as I never cleared from here before

hayabusa1300cc said:
Correct, I can't. Didn't know that was a thing as I never cleared from here before
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Hit this...

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Hit this...
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Yup that's what I hit. Only camera app shows up. I will try to isolate the problem and see what conditions this behavior occurs.

hayabusa1300cc said:
Yup that's what I hit. Only camera app shows up. I will try to isolate the problem and see what conditions this behavior occurs.
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Do you have the return option still available?

This problem occurs more than you might think. I am extremely annoyed at paying dearly for a smartphone full of annoying problems. I get even more annoyed because Samsung doesn't release software updates to fix this. The last update for my version was released in Feb.

Eramix3 said:
This problem occurs more than you might think. I am extremely annoyed at paying dearly for a smartphone full of annoying problems. I get even more annoyed because Samsung doesn't release software updates to fix this. The last update for my version was released in Feb.
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I was hoping last week's 1557mb update would fix this...
And no return option. I pre-ordered