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Sorry if this can't be asked here.
My question is, what is the extent of the coverage? Any details at all if possible from anyone who's had their phone physically damaged without warranty from the seller.
My situation is: bought a Touch HD from clove.co.uk a month ago, without insurance, and my dog just recently destroyed it . I called the north american service hotline, and heard my case, and suggested I call the hotline for the country my phone came from. Which I'll have to do tomorrow as theyre only open 8am - 8pm eastern time (im in CA).
So please, anyone with a similar experience, please let me know what can be done. Bad news or good news, doesn't matter.
Oh then the guy said "happy holidays".
Hi. Wow expensive chew toy! I will tell you from experience HTC is the absolute worst company I have ever had to deal with especially for warranty! I swear they will do everything in their power to avoid honoring the warranty so be careful how you answer their questions.
One example: I bought a used HTC S710 off ebay that was only 2 months old but had some keys that were not working right after about a month. Seller even gave me a copy of his original receipt showing it was under warranty which had 9 months left by time I realized the problem. First guy I talked to said it had to of been damage I caused or accused me of getting it wet but I didn't think that was the case. I know I didn't do either & it had been working for awhile & either way you'd think it should be covered under warranty within the 1st year or they'd at least look at it. When I brought up if it would be covered under warranty he said it depends on if it was damage I caused or not. Next guy I talked to asked if I had the original receipt & if I was the original purchaser. I said yes & no. Then I was told it was non transferable & only good for the original purchaser. I asked the seller if he'd mind sending it in for me & he said sure no problem. Well the next HTC guy said the warranty was invalid because they knew the phone had been resold. (It seems they take notes when you call in) They said they'd be happy to look at it but it'd be at least $80 & could be $120 for keypad issue & maybe much more depending on what the problem was, it could even hit $200 which is almost as much as I paid for the phone! I asked about buying parts & they send they don't sell to end users. I do some computer support for a company that sells & repairs cell phones (Sprint/Nextel) & had them contact HTC to find out they couldn't buy parts either. Run around left & right. I ended up buying replacement parts on ebay for like $30 & fixed it myself. It was a pain but it worked & I didn't give them my $. I swore I'd never buy another HTC but here I am with a Touch Dual & a Fuze. lol
I've read similar horror stories on the net so I know I'm not alone. Moral of the story is don't rely on HTC to honor any warranty & if they do you are one lucky SOB. I highly doubt they are going to cover yours if it is obvious it was chewed on (or dropped or run over or sat on or got wet etc) as they'll say it was abused & not a manufacturer's defect & therefore not warranty. (Not sure any company will cover such things, that is what insurance is for. lol) Odds are they'll gladly offer for you to ship it to them & they'll fix it for a fee but you might be better off cutting your losses now & selling it as-is for parts & buying a replacement. Along with some raw hide bones for yer pooch.
Good luck!
Bill
Ah, figured as much.
Yeah I don't put any faith at all into manufacturer warranties, I just wish they had hearts . But really, this blows and the irony is that earlier I was telling myself, after weeks of tweaking, that I'd lose some hair if I have to hard-reset anytime soon.
Looks like that statement was taken to the extreme....
sp8805 said:
My question is, what is the extent of the coverage?
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I wanted to buy my device abroad, and lucky me, I called reseller here.
Answer was "Warranty is valid only locally", meaning only in my country for device bought in my country!
And sorry to say, damage caused by a dog is not covered by warranty! At least here...
http://www.crc.id.au/2010/11/25/htc-when-warranties-go-bad/
Adding my bit to the piece. Even when its a genuine fault, they are still hopeless.
Just wondering if anyone else went in on this plan. For $10 a month the phone is covered and insured with no dedudtible for any reason (as long as you bring ima piece of the phone in. Also is covered for scratches or anything else. Anyone have this or have negative reasons on it? JW as I'm fairly skeptical even though I put in for it. (Cancel at any time)
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I'm glad there are other people that brought this up. I have this too and fully intend to utilize it, as the damn platinum case has scratched my phone and I'm anal about that. They will surely lose money off me from this. I'm wondering how hard a replacement will be to get with the black tie protection. Also, once you make a claim, can you make another down the road or is it one and done?
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I bought it. for $10 a month with no deductible I totally think it's worth it. and it's so much easier just bringing it in the store as opposed to having to send it to tmobile.
I'm glad you guys have utilized the plan. As a mobile manager for best buy i can assure you that your phone will be covered for repairs and accidental damage. Water damage is covered also. I recommend filing a claim for battery replacement right away since it is part of the coverage, so now you'll have an extra battery (which you only paid $10 for). Let me know if you guys got any questions.
I did too. I got the impression that the it would always be required to be sent out to see if it can be fixed or needs replacement. Not like the iPhone where they give a refurbished at the register. But, better than tmobiles warranty. Probably keep it no longer than 6 months.. diminishing returns and all that.
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We usually give you a comparable loaner phone depending on which model you have. Obviously it won't be a high end android but it's better than nothing. Here's the loaner phone lineup in my store.
Sprint - Samsung Intercept, HTC Hero or LG Optimus
T Mobile - MyTouch Slide, LG Optimus T
At&T - HTC Aria
VZW - Moto Devour, Moto Droid
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I recommend filing a claim for battery replacement right away since it is part of the coverage, so now you'll have an extra battery (which you only paid $10 for). Let me know if you guys got any questions.
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How do you do that?
When you make a claim they have to order a phone? As in it's done through the mail?
The warranty is nice but since I've already gone through 3 exchanges for defects, I'd be worried about getting another with banding, creased glass, or unresponsive back button if I can't actually see the phone in person.
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Thanks greenarcher. I didn't know that.
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I bought a SquareTrade warranty. $99 for 2 years, and you can get a refund anytime and the unused portion is refunded back to you.
anyone have horror stories with the Black Tie Protection plans?
Anymore info on the black tie plan? I've got my new accessories on order and I need to know if there's any stipulations with the warranty
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How do you do that?
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Call the 800 number on your black tie protection brochure and request for a battery replacement. They will mail you the battery, no other steps needed. Verify your mailing address to be on the safe side.
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When you make a claim they have to order a phone? As in it's done through the mail?
The warranty is nice but since I've already gone through 3 exchanges for defects, I'd be worried about getting another with banding, creased glass, or unresponsive back button if I can't actually see the phone in person.
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You will have to visit a Best Buy store so you can get a loaner phone while your device is out for repair. We have a strict no lemon policy so if it's considered defective 3 times / or deemed unrepairable you are eligible for a replacement for the same phone or get credit towards a device of your choice.
looking for a horror story? right this way sir....
i had a problem with white spots on my screen and the usb port on the phone not charging. i took it into best buy so the could send it off for repair. what these guys are failing to tell you about the loaner phones is that a $150 deposit is required. anyhow, 2 weeks later i get a call that my phone is in. well, the screen issues weren't even addressed and while the usb port now charges, i can't transfer data using my pc. so i had it right back, while still in the store. they said it would have to be sent out again, but will be marked for escalation, which i'm told means it will be sent overnight, bumped up in que for immediate repair and sent back overnight. flash forward one week and i find out that my phone was sent through general mail, meaning it took the phone one week to arrive at the tech center. i asked why it wasn't overnighted. yesterday i got an email from a geek squad representative saying that while they apologize for the inconvienence, the store's request that my phone be escalated was denied. no reason given when asked why. so i am going to be without my phone for at least a month, which i am finding out is the norm when dealing with BB and black tie protection. my advice would be to avoid BB altogether.
if we dont opt in for the store insurance, do we call google or samsung if the phone breaks down from anything besides user wear?
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if we dont opt in for the store insurance, do we call google or samsung if the phone breaks down from anything besides user wear?
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yes, they may or may not re-direct you to samsung though.
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looking for a horror story? right this way sir....
i had a problem with white spots on my screen and the usb port on the phone not charging. i took it into best buy so the could send it off for repair. what these guys are failing to tell you about the loaner phones is that a $150 deposit is required. anyhow, 2 weeks later i get a call that my phone is in. well, the screen issues weren't even addressed and while the usb port now charges, i can't transfer data using my pc. so i had it right back, while still in the store. they said it would have to be sent out again, but will be marked for escalation, which i'm told means it will be sent overnight, bumped up in que for immediate repair and sent back overnight. flash forward one week and i find out that my phone was sent through general mail, meaning it took the phone one week to arrive at the tech center. i asked why it wasn't overnighted. yesterday i got an email from a geek squad representative saying that while they apologize for the inconvienence, the store's request that my phone be escalated was denied. no reason given when asked why. so i am going to be without my phone for at least a month, which i am finding out is the norm when dealing with BB and black tie protection. my advice would be to avoid BB altogether.
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Thats a little hard to do if you live in America and want a Nexus S. People often forget that stores are chains and that while service might be horrible at one location, it will be different at another. I used to work for BB (I quit because I hated the corporate morality towards their employees) but our store had amazing customer service which is still does (I bought my Nexus S there). However, the BB in the next city of sucks donkey balls. We very often had people coming from that BB into ours and telling us how incompetent we were until they realized we were different than the other store.
I've known a lot of people who have had great luck with black tie. And a few who had bad luck. Its people, not the company. If you have an issue with a location, complain to corporate or don't buy from that one and go to another.
Go to BB own website. Visit their community forums, especially the Best Buy & Geek Squad Policies. You will find that black tie protection and BB customer service is going down the drain at a record pace. Not every complaint is legitimate for sure, but notice that on not 1 single complaint does BB take responsibility for anything. It is always just a mistake, a error on someone else's part or it is beyond their control. Never a "whoops, sorry about that. Here, let us make that up to you."
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Go to BB own website. Visit their community forums, especially the Best Buy & Geek Squad Policies. You will find that black tie protection and BB customer service is going down the drain at a record pace. Not every complaint is legitimate for sure, but notice that on not 1 single complaint does BB take responsibility for anything. It is always just a mistake, a error on someone else's part or it is beyond their control. Never a "whoops, sorry about that. Here, let us make that up to you."
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Have you ever heard a corporation say that publicly? I saw and made sure every customer walked out happy when I worked there (again, I left because of corporates attitude towards us, the employee). I happily got the protection because I know the store to which I would be going and I know they will have my ass.
Due to unresolved billing issues with T-Mobile and now to add injury to insult, the dang phone fell 2.5ft while i was getting out of the car...and guess what?
Gorilla glass is not all it's cracked up to be (pun intended)
Im thinking this is a final sign that i need to bail ship and move onwards.
What is an otherwise perfectly working stock G2X running GB worth?
Do you have the insurance on the phone? It covers drops.
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Nope, no ins. Never broke a phone before...normally pretty careful dude so didnt think it was necessary. I was really really surprised, especially how bad it shattered from a short fall.
Isnt there like a $50 deductable for that anyway? the Screen's + Digi go for less on ebay.
How about this one?
It doesn not say it has the digitizer is what's stopping me from pulling the trigger right now.
any opinion on this??
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LCD-Display...042?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27c05e642a
I was under the impression that the two terms; touchscreen and digitizer could be used interchangably. I may be wrong though. That item would work in my mind but I would see what other members had to say.
Well nevermind the idea of a sale or value for the phone. It is worth nothing according to LG.
I sent the phone in for repair and it was returned today. I asked why nobody contacted me and was told becuase they had received the phone physically damaged and it was unrepairable. I asked for a photo but the one they sent was pretty small and shows really nothing plus i am not sure what im supposed to be looking for anyway.
So are they sending you a new one or just keeping yours?
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I posted here today prior to receiving my phone back from repair. I was posting trying to figure out what my options were going to be in advance of things.
I was not expecting to receive the phone back as i had not been notified, no calls or anything from stellar/LG...
Surprised to see teh fedex man with a package for me...it was my phone...broke.
So no, They are not sending me a new one. I am bummed. I have a nice fancy broken g2x that stellar/LG deems unrepairable!
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I posted here today prior to receiving my phone back from repair. I was posting trying to figure out what my options were going to be in advance of things.
I was not expecting to receive the phone back as i had not been notified, no calls or anything from stellar/LG...
Surprised to see teh fedex man with a package for me...it was my phone...broke.
So no, They are not sending me a new one. I am bummed. I have a nice fancy broken g2x that stellar/LG deems unrepairable!
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Your G2X is not unrepairable.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1207651.html
There is plenty of information on the internet about repairing it including videos on You Tube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDUPPzbQKTI
Here's where to purchase parts http://www.repairsuniverse.com/lg-g2x-p999-screen-replacement-repair-parts.html
http://www.cell-phoneparts.com/lg-tmobile-g2x-touch-screen-digitizer-replacement-p999-p-623.html
http://www.globaldirectparts.com/SearchResults.asp?Search=p999
There are other sources of parts too.
People make this mistake all the time. Hardness and strength are not interchangable. Gorilla glass is hard, great for scratch resistance but terrible for shatter resistance.
Basic metallurgy. Applies to metals too.
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Gorilla glass is not all it's cracked up to be (pun intended)
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Corememory - I just received the phone back from it's authorized repair center and they say the phone was sent back to me "as is" because they do not replace phones, only repair...and mine in non repairable.
I will post the pic they sent if you still dispute it's fixable and undertstand circuit board repair or whatever the issue is.
TerryM - yes.My mistake as well as many others too. Also surprsing is in the reference thread posted it was also noted by another poster the extremely short fall it took to break.
Possibly the 'Gorilla Glass' is a worse alternative after all...more susceptble to shattering than Non gorilla or standard display glass.
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Well nevermind the idea of a sale or value for the phone. It is worth nothing according to LG.
I sent the phone in for repair and it was returned today. I asked why nobody contacted me and was told becuase they had received the phone physically damaged and it was unrepairable. I asked for a photo but the one they sent was pretty small and shows really nothing plus i am not sure what im supposed to be looking for anyway.
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LG (and pretty much every other manufacturer) covers repairs for manufacturing defects. They have no responsibility to repair a phone that was broken otherwise, and there is absolutely no reason whatsoever to expect LG to do so.
Being as you didn't purchase insurance, that means you get to find someone to fix it for you, or fix it yourself. It isn't that difficult or expensive.
TL;DR: You broke your phone. You don't have insurance. Fix it.
Ummm...thanks i know it's tough luck and am aware of SOP's for getting my situation str8. What i am NOT getting is prior to sending it in i read on here as well as other sites the costs and procedures involved. So why then are two members directing me to repair on my own or find someone, if the actual USA LG auth repair facility is saying it's non??
I do not want to spend anymore time or money. I would just assume move on to the next phone and carrier. Screw t-mobile. The phone was great aside from the fragility.
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Ummm...thanks i know it's tough luck and am aware of SOP's for getting my situation str8. What i am NOT getting is prior to sending it in i read on here as well as other sites the costs and procedures involved. So why then are two members directing me to repair on my own or find someone, if the actual USA LG auth repair facility is saying it's non??
I do not want to spend anymore time or money. I would just assume move on to the next phone and carrier. Screw t-mobile. The phone was great aside from the fragility.
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If all that was broken is the screen, it isn't by any means unrepairable (no matter what LG's authorized repair facility says), but you would need to check it out for yourself in order to find out the extent of the damage, unless you already know. Without pictures or details of what is damaged, we can't exactly tell you if it is fixable or not. The way it was worded sounded a bit like you attempted to get a warranty repair rather than something you would have had to pay for.
The thing is throughout the thread your attitude towards T-Mobile and LG already shows more than a little animosity and it colors how we read your posts as a whole, or at least how I read it. I don't know what your issue with them is exactly, and I don't want to. You flat out say you don't want to spend any more time or money on this problem, so...Hope you know that moving to another phone and carrier is going to cost you (either you pay for the phone up front or you pay for it in your contract, dearly, and in the US there aren't any better deals than Sprint or T-Mobile). Either way, without more details there isn't much we can tell you.
Also, this phone isn't any more 'fragile' than any other thin slab of glass attached to metal and plastic that is less than an inch thick.
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Screw t-mobile. The phone was great aside from the fragility.
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Ummmm. This phone is no more fragile than the next. I actually stood on my phone and ground it into limestone rocks. I ended up with just a couple of scratches. It isn't unbreakable, but there is no issue that makes it more fragile than any other phone. It isn't T-Mobile's fault that 1) you didn't buy insurance and 2) glass can be broken.
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If all that was broken is the screen, it isn't by any means unrepairable (no matter what LG's authorized repair facility says), but you would need to check it out for yourself in order to find out the extent of the damage, unless you already know. Without pictures or details of what is damaged, we can't exactly tell you if it is fixable or not. The way it was worded sounded a bit like you attempted to get a warranty repair rather than something you would have had to pay for.
The thing is throughout the thread your attitude towards T-Mobile and LG already shows more than a little animosity and it colors how we read your posts as a whole, or at least how I read it. I don't know what your issue with them is exactly, and I don't want to. You flat out say you don't want to spend any more time or money on this problem, so...Hope you know that moving to another phone and carrier is going to cost you (either you pay for the phone up front or you pay for it in your contract, dearly, and in the US there aren't any better deals than Sprint or T-Mobile). Either way, without more details there isn't much we can tell you.
Also, this phone isn't any more 'fragile' than any other thin slab of glass attached to metal and plastic that is less than an inch thick.
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Not sure what exactly you are reading into...ive stated that the phone was dropped and was surprised the repair facility intimated their inability to repair.
Maybe i exagerrated when i mentioned i am normally careful. I am, but sheet happens and i have dropped other phones w/out damage. My first smartphone was the mytouch3g, it was dropped a few times from greater distances with only a few nicks and a crack in the casing. All i have is my own experience to draw from, and in this case the other thread posted where another member also complained about a short fall and the resulting damage. In my experience the phone is fragile due to completely shattering from a small fall!
I understand your lack of interest in my issues with T-Mobile. So all i can do is say: BEWARE
What i would REALLY like is info/help on determining if this phone is fixable. I assume i can go to simple mobile and buy a SIM or would anyone possibly l know if i quit on a contract with T-Mobile and could care less what they do to my credit, can i get on one of their pre-paid plans via wal-mart or something?
So, should i post the photo they sent me, take the phone apart and look for something?? how to save myself from ordering a display/digitizer and coming to the same conclusion as stellar?
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Ummmm. This phone is no more fragile than the next. I actually stood on my phone and ground it into limestone rocks. I ended up with just a couple of scratches. It isn't unbreakable, but there is no issue that makes it more fragile than any other phone. It isn't T-Mobile's fault that 1) you didn't buy insurance and 2) glass can be broken.
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In this case, and my experience dropping other phones, you are proven incorrect - hopefully you'll never have to deal firsthand.
I know and said nothing about this being T-Mobiles fault. I have posted on here in the past some detail so no need to go into it. All i can say is WATCHOUT FOR THEM. Be very careful and cautious if ever doing any business with them. TRUST ME please and save yourself the frustration.
as for insurance, just a risk i take. I would prefer no auto/home any kind whatsoever. That's just me, foolish or not i'd rather not pay monthly. Most insurances will look for any way not to pay. I only purchase required insurance.
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In this case, and my experience dropping other phones, you are proven incorrect - hopefully you'll never have to deal firsthand.
I know and said nothing about this being T-Mobiles fault. I have posted on here in the past some detail so no need to go into it. All i can say is WATCHOUT FOR THEM. Be very careful and cautious if ever doing any business with them. TRUST ME please and save yourself the frustration.
as for insurance, just a risk i take. I would prefer no auto/home any kind whatsoever. That's just me, foolish or not i'd rather not pay monthly. Most insurances will look for any way not to pay. I only purchase required insurance.
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After reading your other threads and going over the things you ask about (like getting a Simple Mobile SIM and putting it in the phone to 'fix' the screen, wanting to know how to get out of your contract, complaining that LG and T-Mobile won't just magically replace your $15-20 battery at your whim) it sounds like all you want is out of a contract you signed with no repercussions, or ETF. You give absolutely no details, pictures, proof of correspondence with LG's repair facility, or any necessary information required to help you figure out just how damaged your phone is. You state you have read about and even checked prices on how to fix your screen.
I want to help you, but you don't seem to want help. All you seem to want is a way out of your contract and an easy way to chum up with another carrier without spending any money. Sorry, but you won't find help for that here.
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After reading your other threads and going over the things you ask about (like getting a Simple Mobile SIM and putting it in the phone to 'fix' the screen, wanting to know how to get out of your contract, complaining that LG and T-Mobile won't just magically replace your $15-20 battery at your whim) it sounds like all you want is out of a contract you signed with no repercussions, or ETF. You give absolutely no details, pictures, proof of correspondence with LG's repair facility, or any necessary information required to help you figure out just how damaged your phone is. You state you have read about and even checked prices on how to fix your screen.
I want to help you, but you don't seem to want help. All you seem to want is a way out of your contract and an easy way to chum up with another carrier without spending any money. Sorry, but you won't find help for that here.
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Hey, you seem to want to draw your own conclusions, nitpick and challenge whne i have no interest in any of that. Tell ya what, i was under impression you were trying to help. If so, check the pic stellar sent me today that i have attached and comment if you have any expertise on the subject.
If not, have a great night and myob next time
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In this case, and my experience dropping other phones, you are proven incorrect - hopefully you'll never have to deal firsthand.
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Actually. If you read what I wrote, I mentioned that I dropped my phone onto onto limestone gravel and then proceeded to STAND ON IT. And I weigh 260 lb. Screen scratched but unbroken. Does that prove it is unbreakable? Nope. In any single incident all kinds of things are possible. I used to work for tmo, I know this firsthand. You'd be surprised, even with those old "indestructible" Nokias, how many people dropped their phones a "couple of feet" onto the carpet and ended up with something broke. It happens. Shut up and deal with it like a man.
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Today, while running with my son on a nature trail, a freak accident happened. The stroller hit a rock in such a way it launched my phone from a holding pouch into the air and onto the ground shattering the screen. (i run over 75 miles a month for the last two years, so never dreamed of this happening) I was devastated, especially since it's a month old and since i'm one NEXT i can't really afford an extra 200 bucks. I went onto the phoneclaim website and tried to file a claim, initially telling me my deductible was 199.99 but my g3 wasn't listed and it told me to call to file the claim.
So, I call the number, speak to someone. She asked me about the damage, and what accessories if any i was claiming. I told her just the phone, no accessories or sim card - since that stuff was in tact. After putting me on hold, she asked me about the color of the phone, repeated the LG G3, asked me to verify identity questions (which amounted to my street address) and said that my deductible was 50.00 which would be applied to my bill. Now, i said
"not that i'm complaining, but this is the 32gb white LG G3 we're talking about, correct? "
"she replies yes sir"
"I said not only did the at&t rep tell me 199.99 when i signed up for the insurance, but the website also told me 199.99 when i entered in my number"
"she said I wouldn't complain either sir, it states 50.00 here with 1-2 business days shipping"
So, what are the odds something bad is going to happen here?
Ie: the wrong phone replacement, not a phone at all, but like a battery or something... i dunno.
Just can't wrap my mind around everyone saying 199.99, then being told 50.00 for 600 phone. ....
should I be worried?
Did they send you a confirmation email? If not, call back with the case # and get them to email that to you.
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Did they send you a confirmation email? If not, call back with the case # and get them to email that to you.
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They did, but all it states is that the claim is been received and being processed and a tracking number will be provided once it ships.
I'd imagine you're good to go at $50 since she told you that.
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I'd imagine you're good to go at $50 since she told you that.
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It's a good thing I went back to the site.
They had me for a replacement of the G3 VIGOR, not the G3 D850. When I called back, they asked me a ton more questions plus i have to sign an affidavit and send in a copy of my license. Then she told me an adjuster would call me and let me know if it would be replaced or not. She also said had i not called back i wouldn't have even gotten a new phone because the last person screwed up.
But, seriously... what am I paying insurance for if they will let me know about the replacement... i'm pretty sure we pay insurance for this exact issue.
I dunno, what a headache.
That sucks! I've replaced one that way before and I never had to give them a copy of my license? I'd sure be *****ing. Good luck!
Unfortunately this happened to me a week after I had my phone. The deductible was 165$ & they tried to give me an lg g2. Luckily I called back and had it fixed. It was a quick yet expensive lesson. And yes, I had to do the same with my license and an affidavit. Hope it goes well for you.
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Unfortunately this happened to me a week after I had my phone. The deductible was 165$ & they tried to give me an lg g2. Luckily I called back and had it fixed. It was a quick yet expensive lesson. And yes, I had to do the same with my license and an affidavit. Hope it goes well for you.
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No such luck for me. I've had my claim denied twice now. I've filled out three affidavits, sent in various pics of the phone and barcodes, license etc. I've mad a trip to the AT&T store all to no avail.
The reasoning is all very vague, like telling me my time of occurrence and date of last usage don't match, or that they've even tried telling me i don't own a G3 lol.
Worst experience ever...
I'll end up trying to contact LG and see if i can just get them to replace the screen for the 200 bucks it will cost or whatever.
sigh.
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No such luck for me. I've had my claim denied twice now. I've filled out three affidavits, sent in various pics of the phone and barcodes, license etc. I've mad a trip to the AT&T store all to no avail.
The reasoning is all very vague, like telling me my time of occurrence and date of last usage don't match, or that they've even tried telling me i don't own a G3 lol.
Worst experience ever...
I'll end up trying to contact LG and see if i can just get them to replace the screen for the 200 bucks it will cost or whatever.
sigh.
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That's weird that they say your " time of occurrence and date of last usage don't match"
Are you rooted and did you remove lots of apps like carrierIQ?
Do you think they are just BSing you?
Lol this makes me want to cancel my insurance...
Sent from my LG G3
Craleb said:
That's weird that they say your " time of occurrence and date of last usage don't match"
Are you rooted and did you remove lots of apps like carrierIQ?
Do you think they are just BSing you?
Lol this makes me want to cancel my insurance...
Sent from my LG G3
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Now that you mention it. I am rooted, i removed the bloat and carrierIQ the day I got the phone.
I might just have to send my phone to LG for a screen repair and call it a day. I'll keep you all updated when they deny my claim again tomorrow lol.
Insurance on anything that depreciates like a smart phone is a scam. I would never and have never gotten phone insurance. I keep one old phone at all times just in case this happens.
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Insurance on anything that depreciates like a smart phone is a scam. I would never and have never gotten phone insurance. I keep one old phone at all times just in case this happens.
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I would normally agree. I've only ever gotten insurance once, and it was for this phone. I also kept my galaxy s3 just in case this very thing happened. But, since i'm on the next program, i'll be damned if i'm paying 600.00+ for a phone that i can't use, even if it means i have to fork out extra for a replacement.
All that said, they actually approved my claim after several denials - nothing ever changed with the paperwork.
Now i just have to keep my fingers crossed that i get a new g3 replacement (or damn near like new referb). I hope it's not a heap of junk replacement like i've read in other stories about asurion.
Now, i've actually heard great first hand things about square trade insurance, cheaper payments, cheaper deductible, and no questions asked claims. some folks my wife and I work with use it and had nothing but good things to say about them, which is where i'll be headed to after my replacement.
*Shrug* Whatever floats your boat. Cracked screen repair for the G3 is about $150 direct from LG. They are going to send the phone to LG to repair it. Probably at a volume discount. They probably make a ~$100 profit on the G3 every time someone uses their warranty. Every phone claim is a profit for the company. If it is not, then they deny the claim. This is why I call it a scam. You are paying them monthly for the privilege of maybe having to let them profit off of you.
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st0nez0r said:
Now, i've actually heard great first hand things about square trade insurance, cheaper payments, cheaper deductible, and no questions asked claims. some folks my wife and I work with use it and had nothing but good things to say about them, which is where i'll be headed to after my replacement.
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Haven't heard of this before, this looks like much less of a scam than the Assurian BS scam.
Interesting! Thanks for mentioning it.
I just get a rubber tpu bumper case and a screen protector and forget the insurance
Hi st0nez0r,
We’re glad to hear that ultimately we were able to get this resolved and a replacement device is on its way to you! This is not a typical experience and we’d hate to lose a valued customer. While we understand that paperwork is never fun we have the affidavit process in place for your protection. This helps prevent fraudulent claims against your account and helps keep premiums from rising. We recognize the cost associated with replacing a device which is why it’s our goal to help our customers save money while also getting them reconnected quickly should they experience a covered loss. In addition to covering physical damage, we also cover liquid damage, loss and theft; where most do not.
While we do use both new and certified-like new devices, keep in mind, all replacements come with a 12 month limited warranty. Should you experience any warranty failure, we’ll replace the phone at no additional cost.
We appreciate you sharing your experience, as it helps us to improve the services that we offer. Please let us know if you have any other questions or if we can be of further assistance.
Thanks,
Asurion Social Media Team @AsurionCares
www.phoneclaim.com
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Hi st0nez0r,
We’re glad to hear that ultimately we were able to get this resolved and a replacement device is on its way to you! This is not a typical experience and we’d hate to lose a valued customer. While we understand that paperwork is never fun we have the affidavit process in place for your protection. This helps prevent fraudulent claims against your account and helps keep premiums from rising. We recognize the cost associated with replacing a device which is why it’s our goal to help our customers save money while also getting them reconnected quickly should they experience a covered loss. In addition to covering physical damage, we also cover liquid damage, loss and theft; where most do not.
While we do use both new and certified-like new devices, keep in mind, all replacements come with a 12 month limited warranty. Should you experience any warranty failure, we’ll replace the phone at no additional cost.
We appreciate you sharing your experience, as it helps us to improve the services that we offer. Please let us know if you have any other questions or if we can be of further assistance.
Thanks,
Asurion Social Media Team @AsurionCares
www.phoneclaim.com
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This was quite unexpected but appreciated.
Honestly, In terms of cellphones, dealing with Asurion was one of the worse experience I've ever had in the history of owning a cell phone. While I understand the need for paperwork and whatever various methods you use to combat insurance fraud,
beyond those measures is where I had the real problems:
Dealing with rude/obnoxious customer support representatives (just one, but one too many.)
The run around game. Sending me to an AT&T store to obtain info, then to be belittled by another rep for doing what I was initially asked to do. (referring to the same rep as above)
Lack of information and communication during the process. In some cases I didn't get a call or email explaining why my claims were initially canceled. I had to call back for that info.
The website is not all that great either. one example would be filling in your first/last name, phone number, email, and social just for an update. How about a tracking number process or something.
No option to contact/talk to support after paperwork is submitted for review. If you have questions/problems you can't speak to anyone during that process. You're greeted with a phone message stating your stuff is under review and that you'll be contacted. then hangs up on you. I guess this is in place so work can actually get accomplished without being overwhelmed by calls, but still...
In the end I did receive a brand new replacement device. The return process was also a snap.
I've learned my lesson at any rate. I invested the extra money in a spigen slim armor case and tempered glass protector.
Thanks for replying to this post.
I almost had a similar experience with Asurion, but ultimately a good one. It all started with initiating my claim over the phone, just to discover no record of my claim upon following-up. The follow-up rep offered to resubmit or direct me to the website, where I'd be able to print documents required and receive confirmation/ updates upon successful submission.
After downloading, printing and competing the affidavit, I was able to scan and upload, along with my ID. This took less than 15 minutes.
I had a brand new phone, shipped from AT&T within a couple days. I've been a wireless dealer, and the Asurion representative's explanation about hurdles preventing fraud are entirely valid. The $200 deductible + my first monthly premium is not a scam- they ate maximum money on my claim, particularly as my replacement was NOT refurbished. I'm still only paying AT&T for one phone. Asurion bought the majority of the other. My deductible will be used to minimize the loss, likely through repair and reuse for a future claim. Loss/theft is an even bigger loser. Their money is made from premium revenue that exceeds claims expenses.
While it sounds like they could tighten up their call centers, if Asurion has replaced your $600 phone, they've certainly not robbed you.
Sent from my LG-V410 using Tapatalk
This is why I never use the carrier insurance it sucks and the more the customer service... All my devices I always go with SquareTrade, only $5.00 a month and $75.00 deductible.
Hello all,
There are multiple reports of the screen on this phone failing. When customers file an RMA and send their phone to customer service to get it fixed under warranty, ASUS attempts to blame the customers even when their phones are in pristine condition.
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Update 5/22/2019
After weeks of emails and forum posts with ASUS, 3 out of 5 customers have been able to get ASUS to repair the screen at no cost. So if you're dealing with this issue, don't give up!
Proof ASUS used fake photos to avoid honoring their warranty:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/rog-phone/help/zs600kl-screen-dead-t3915901/page3
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If your phone's screen fails:
If you're able to return to the seller that would be your best option. 30 days with Amazon.
---- https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?tag=detailedview-20&nodeId=201840590
File an RMA https://www.asus.com/us/support/article/818
Post a new thread on ASUS ROG Customer Support Forum https://www.asus.com/zentalk/forum.php?mod=forumdisplay&fid=433
---- Include link to this thread and photos of your phone
Post a link in this thread of the thread you've started on the support forum and I'll add to the OP.
Take many pictures of your phone and back up your data (if you can) before you send it in to get fixed.
If they don't honor their warranty leave a one-star review at Amazon and Newegg.
If they don't honor their warranty write to tech websites and forums about your experience.
If they don't honor their warranty take legal action.
---- https://www.usa.gov/consumer-complaints
---- https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0252-warranties
Here is a blog post on this issue:
https://piunikaweb.com/2019/05/02/a...orm-inside-for-many-rma-denied-in-most-cases/
Here are links on ASUS's support website on this issue:
https://www.asus.com/zentalk/thread-268611-1-1.html
https://www.asus.com/zentalk/thread-264701-1-1.html
https://www.asus.com/zentalk/thread-271050-1-1.html
https://www.asus.com/zentalk/thread-272455-1-1.html
https://www.asus.com/zentalk/in/thread-270274-1-1.html
Here are links on XDA's website on this issue:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/rog-phone/how-to/consumer-alert-asus-refused-to-fix-t3933078
https://forum.xda-developers.com/rog-phone/help/defective-screen-idea-cost-to-repair-t3878297/amp/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/rog-phone/help/zs600kl-screen-dead-t3915901
https://forum.xda-developers.com/rog-phone/how-to/extremly-frangile-t3927664
Here is more on ASUS not honoring their warranty:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/review...20&ie=UTF8&filterByStar=one_star&pageNumber=1
https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/6tlxr9/ma_asus_not_honoring_warranty/
https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/242843-why-i-will-never-buy-asus-products-again-after-today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPHhxzCc7sg
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What can be done about this? I went out and bought a cheap phone just to hold me over. But I spent a lot of money on my ROG phone and had it for only four months before the screen went bad. I am so angry about how I am being treated, I am loosing sleep.
Before this happened I had a positive impression of ASUS. I have purchased ASUS computer equipment. I was a loyal customer. And this is what ASUS has done with my loyalty . . .
MichaelCaditz said:
What can be done about this? I went out and bought a cheap phone just to hold me over. But I spent a lot of money on my ROG phone and had it for only four months before the screen went bad. I am so angry about how I am being treated, I am loosing sleep.
Before this happened I had a positive impression of ASUS. I have purchased ASUS computer equipment. I was a loyal customer. And this is what ASUS has done with my loyalty . . .
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I posted links to this thread on ASUS's support forum. It makes me mad that they are treating their customers this way. It is obvious that there is an issue with their screen and unfair that they are blaming the customers for it. I'm hoping that this thread helps; if it doesn't we'll look at what legal action can be taken.
I have a new idea. If ASUS doesn't honor their warranty then we could write to CNET, Engadget, and even XDA editors about this issue. Sometimes bad press is an incentive for them to do what is right.
Edit: If you haven't already, If you have an option to leave a review from where it was purchased, I would write a negative review. Also report to BBB.
If these don't work then we take legal action.
I'm a philosopher, and thus well-schooled in logic. I can say this: It's absolutely amazing that ASUS can use identical photographs as evidence to claim both that my phone has severe damage, and that it has only cosmetic damage--whichever argument it needs to try and get me to pay them more money. It has severe damage for the purpose of denying warranty coverage; it has only cosmetic damage for the purpose of denying a damage in transit claim. The gall of these people . . .
Please see the reviews on Amazon. Several customers report being victimized by the same tactic discussed here: ASUS claiming a screen defect is "CID" and holding the phone hostage for $400+.
This has to stop. Consumers are supposed to be protected from this kind of abusive and illegal practice.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/review..._1?ie=UTF8&filterByStar=one_star&pageNumber=1
One of the one-star reviewers states that ASUS informed him, EVEN BEFORE HE SENT HIS PHONE IN, that the screen was not covered under warranty. This is additional evidence that it is ASUS policy to prejudge ALL screen failures as CID.
This company is despicable and deserves to go out of business.
Another similar story:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/rog-phone/help/defective-screen-idea-cost-to-repair-t3878297/amp/
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And another:
https://www.asus.com/zentalk/in/thread-270274-1-1.html
This scheme by ASUS to blame a ROG Phone screen defect on customers is rampant. Do we have a lawyer who is willing to take on a class action lawsuit?
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Do we have a lawyer who is willing to take on a class action lawsuit?
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Not a lawyer, but I found these two websites that might help:
https://www.usa.gov/consumer-complaints
https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0252-warranties
Tesla74 said:
Not a lawyer, but I found these two websites that might help:
https://www.usa.gov/consumer-complaints
https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0252-warranties
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My invoices are coming from Fremont, CA, so it looks like I'll also be filing a complaint with the California Attorney General.
https://oag.ca.gov/consumers
There are also consumer advocate shows on radio and television. Those could be quite embarrassing to ASUS.
https://www.nbclosangeles.com/consumer-form/
https://abc7news.com/7onyourside/
I just received an email from ASUS "CEO's office" saying that my phone will be repaired free of charge. Now I will wait to see when and what I receive back from ASUS service center.
Asus Inner display broken without physical damage
Hi have brought the Asus ROG Phone on 14 Jan 2019. while i was playing PUBG , Suddenly my phone was blackout and i have checked that inner display cracked without physical damage. I couldn't see single scractch on the outer glass.
But when I was check with service centre and they are saying this will not be comes under warranty and they were also saying silly answer like inner display might be get damaged because of finger impression and placing the phone inside pant pocket.
RMA NUMBER: INUIK40199
I was shocked about the answers from technician. so ASUS company has manufacturing cheap, weak display for the permium phone.
my friend has advised me that don't go for ASUS ROG phone , it has cheap and week LED display but i didn't listen that.
Can you please help to escalate team.
Please see the below link as many of the buyers has been facing the inner display broken issues, now tell me that is ur Asus ROG PHONE has weak and poor quality display
samshak01:
As you have noted this is a common problem with ROG phone. So far ASUS has not acknowledged this problem and it is attempting to collect fees of approximately half the cost of the phone for repairs. Until such time as ASUS decides to fix this defect under warranty, each user is on his or her own to argue for warranty service.
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Hi have brought the Asus ROG Phone on 14 Jan 2019. while i was playing PUBG , Suddenly my phone was blackout and i have checked that inner display cracked without physical damage. I couldn't see single scractch on the outer glass.
But when I was check with service centre and they are saying this will not be comes under warranty and they were also saying silly answer like inner display might be get damaged because of finger impression and placing the phone inside pant pocket.
RMA NUMBER: INUIK40199
I was shocked about the answers from technician. so ASUS company has manufacturing cheap, weak display for the permium phone.
my friend has advised me that don't go for ASUS ROG phone , it has cheap and week LED display but i didn't listen that.
Can you please help to escalate team.
Please see the below link as many of the buyers has been facing the inner display broken issues, now tell me that is ur Asus ROG PHONE has weak and poor quality display
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If you haven't already, I highly recommend posting on the ASUS support forum. Reference this thread. If you do send your phone in, take a lot of pictures of it first and back up your data.
Please post your ASUS support forum thread here and I'll add it to the OP. The more we document that this is a problem the better it is for us.
ASUS will be releasing ROG Phone 2 soon.
https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/asus-rog-phone-2-news/
I've updated the OP with more information. :good:
They got me, too
I'll just post what I posted on Zentalk. But here is the link to my Zentalk post that has the ridiculous pictures added to it:
https://www.asus.com/zentalk/ww/thread-272455-1-1.html
What follows is what I posted in the thread minus photos:
This is happening to me right now. This is the second time my screen has done this. This first time ASUS fixed it no problem. This time ASUS sent two pictures back from their service department stating the screen was cracked from 'impact damage'. Note that the screen is not cracked, the glass is fine. The LCD UNDER the glass is somehow cracked.
When I sent the phone in the screen was completely dead with a very short crack on the right side of the LCD under the glass. I'm talking maybe a quarter inch. They sent a picture back with TWO cracks going all the way across the screen! That was not how I sent the phone in to them! Further, I babied that phone. I NEVER dropped it and never abused it. I was watching TV, looked at my phone, then put it in my pocket. About a half hour later I looked again and there was a spot the size of the pad of my pinky finger that had gone dark and rainbow colored around the edges of the dark spot. As the hour progressed the screen progressively died as I just sat and helplessly watched, not even touching it. It's the EXACT way it died the first time.
The picture of the 'impact damage' is a joke. I had to look extremely hard to see any irregularity in the picture, and I don't see how that would have caused the crack, or how it would have even happened IN MY POCKET. Further, I had the case on it from day one THAT I BOUGHT FROM ASUS. I have never taken it off. I followed all their directions for shipping, bought their shipping label, I did everything I was supposed to do and now somehow my phone is MORE damaged than last time I saw it, and they are trying to say I somehow damaged it via 'impact'?? No! I had my wife look at the picture and she seriously doubts that's even my phone! She doesn't think the crack is even in the same place! I never even thought about taking pictures of my own phone, who thinks about doing that? But my 'dispute' just ended in an e-mail stating physical damage isn't covered by warranty. The guy on the phone asked if I had any pictures of my phone from BEFORE it was damaged. My phone is my camera, how am I supposed to take a photo of my camera with my camera, and why would I do that to begin with?
There is no way this was done by physical damage!! And now they want me to dish out 400 dollars? I can't afford that! Anybody have any ideas? If I can't get it fixed under the warranty like it should be, especially since it would be IT'S THIRD SCREEN, then I'll just have to dish out the extra cash and buy a new Razer Phone 2. I don't see another option here. If I pay the 400, this will more than likely happen again and then I'll have to go through this whole mess all over again. And to think this whole time I was braggin up ASUS to everyone, showing off the phone. All my PC parts are ASUS. I guess if this doesn't get fixed, I'll have learned my lesson there, too.
I've yet to hear anything from ASUS and they still have my phone. Just to update you all. I'll update the other sites I've posted on as well.
Just heard back from Customer Loyalty and they won't fix it without the 400 dollars. This, they said, was after they lowered the cost of fixing it. So i told them if they are refusing to fix their faulty product to just send it back to me so I can use it as a paperweight, and I'll notify all the appropriate forums, websites, and reviews on Amazon, Newegg, XDA, Zentalk, and warn family and my entire department about using ASUS for anything. I'll be looking elsewhere for all my PC hardware now, also. Apparently my favorite company is now being run by people that have no care for product quality and customer loyalty. Sorry, everyone. I was hoping ASUS would come clean and fix their problem. Clearly I was wrong. I'll be sending everyone over to Razer from now on for gaming phones.
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Just heard back from Customer Loyalty and they won't fix it without the 400 dollars. This, they said, was after they lowered the cost of fixing it. So i told them if they are refusing to fix their faulty product to just send it back to me so I can use it as a paperweight, and I'll notify all the appropriate forums, websites, and reviews on Amazon, Newegg, XDA, Zentalk, and warn family and my entire department about using ASUS for anything. I'll be looking elsewhere for all my PC hardware now, also. Apparently my favorite company is now being run by people that have no care for product quality and customer loyalty. Sorry, everyone. I was hoping ASUS would come clean and fix their problem. Clearly I was wrong. I'll be sending everyone over to Razer from now on for gaming phones.
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Thanks for the update. Too bad this is happening. I'll add a link to your thread in the OP.
Bad Services By Asus
Ohh Asus is such a bad company.. i wanna go for iphone but, apple os system is so crap full with limitations and also customer service always ask alot money.. me too havin bad day with the 1st day i bought that Rog phone.. Luckily after 1week i got my phone back from asus service center.. I don't know what they do to my phone, at least my phone not auto reboot again when i plug in that aero active cooler fan.