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Hello everybody!
I have been interested in buying this phone, I have been messing around with it at the store and everything checks out for me except for two things.
I noticed that even in manual mode I don't get live exposure preview. By that I mean that the display doesn't show the exposure I will get before I take the photo. For example on my current phone (Blackberry Priv with the stock android photo app) If I set the ISO and aperture to something that would obviously result in an under exposed photo the live view will accurately display an under exposed preview and same goes for over exposed settings. My phone even does this in automatic mode. If I touch a dark part of the frame my live view will expose higher and when I touch a bright part of the frame it will expose lower. This is really important to me and the phones at the store don't do this and it baffles me to say the least, also considering that their advertisements include their 101 DXOmark photo rating. Is there a way around this? I never liked any of the fancy camera apps in the play store because of how buggy and clunky they are, they didn't have a google account on them so I couldn't try.
The other issue is the ISO range is limited from 100 - 1600 as on my phone I get 50 - 6400. I don't expect that big of a range but it seems tiny compared to everything else.
At the store the Mix 2s as well as the Mix 2 had serious banding issues at ISO 200 and above, I tried all the Hz settings and that didn't change anything. I'm assuming that this is a very limited issue due to location and I would probably never see it from day to day life.
I'm planning on installing as stock of android if available, would this fix any of the issues? Of course I would like to maintain the excellent camera quality if there is a fix.
Thank you for all your help!
Hi,
Live exposure preview is working here with auto mode and manual mode... I'm on xiaomi.eu rom (it's based on Chinese stable). I also can only set ISO from 100 - 1600. However, I don't know what banding is and what the different frequencies change there so I can't say something about that
That's without changing exposure compensation right?
This a Taiwanese 6GB Mix 2s, I don't know what rom it has but I know that it has the play store. I will have to check what rom it uses.
I found a post from somebody else talking about using it on his 8GB Chinese phone quote "Global fastboot image (9.5.4.0) from the Taiwan MIUI website" I don't know if its the same rom as the xiaomi.eu.
I have attached a photo of the phone with banding on a picture I took. Banding is when the framerate doesn't line up with the frequency of the lights. Its the first time that I have experienced this but I'm probably worried over nothing.
Thanks for helping me out with this.
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That's without changing exposure compensation right?
This a Taiwanese 6GB Mix 2s, I don't know what rom it has but I know that it has the play store. I will have to check what rom it uses.
I found a post from somebody else talking about using it on his 8GB Chinese phone quote "Global fastboot image (9.5.4.0) from the Taiwan MIUI website" I don't know if its the same rom as the xiaomi.eu.
I have attached a photo of the phone with banding on a picture I took. Banding is when the framerate doesn't line up with the frequency of the lights. Its the first time that I have experienced this but I'm probably worried over nothing.
Thanks for helping me out with this.
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Global rom and xiaomi.eu rom are different roms, xiaomi.eu is a custom rom based on chinese stable but optimized for the use in western countrys(or any country outside china) with play services and playstore and so on. Beside the name it's not related to xiaomi so it's not official. My banding settings are on 50Hz (didn't change anything, was like this before) and I was not able to reproduce an effect like on your photo. The only setting I found related to exposure is "auto exposure settings" and it's set to "center weighted" don't know if that is what you meant with "That's without changing exposure compensation right?"
There are lot's of camera tests on youtube, maybe one of them can answer your questions better than me
Thank you for the info. I didn't know that the global and xiaomi.eu Roms were different. I wonder why the xiaomi.eu Rom isn't based on the global rom?
Exposure compensation can be changed by tapping on the image to focus, a circle will appear with two little arrows on the right. Slide the arrows up and down to change exposure compensation.
I will verify the auto exposure settings. Maybe this will fix the issue I'm having.
The problem with exposure is that in the camera live preview, the shutter speed is always set to automatic. The shutter speed change triggers only while thr phone is taking a picture.
Regarding banding, never had trouble. It might be appearing due to a very bad setup of halogen lights in the store, I think that these people that work there get a lot of eye strain
You are right, I went to a different store and in manual mode the exposure preview shutter speed/ISO wasn't changing. I'm sure that other phones use a combination of shutter speed and ISO to generate the preview because the image remains pretty smooth even when setting a long exposure.
I checked again for the live preview in automatic mode, when touching bright spots the exposure would decrease and touching dark spots would increase exposure, so at least we have that.
You are right about the lights they are very harsh in the first store. I couldn't reproduce the banding in the second store.
I can confirm that the Taiwanese phones use Global stable 9.5.4.0 and the model is: M1803D5XA
The phones are out of stock everywhere so I need to wait
Using global stable here. Changing ISO has immediate affects on the subject for me. In the viewfinder, I can see the difference between ISO 100-1600
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Using global stable here. Changing ISO has immediate affects on the subject for me. In the viewfinder, I can see the difference between ISO 100-1600
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Which version of Global Stable? The phone's here are running 9.5.4.0 Global Stable.
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Which version of Global Stable? The phone's here are running 9.5.4.0 Global Stable.
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9.5.18.0
Google Camera Port by BSG and @sannn111ty for the Poco f1
If you don't really know why you are here, You can download Gcam here. Gcam is short for Google's camera app that ships with the pixels. Google has been making incredible advances in camera software that they put on their Pixel devices. Most of the magic of the camera quality of pixel's reside in the High Dynamic Range google algorithms. However, this software is not officially available for other devices. BSG is the first developer to have adapted Gcam for other devices. He now has a MI 8, which is very siùilar to the Pocophone, so his ports actually work pretty well on this phone.
Here is a list of the features that make google's software stand apart from all the other stock and 3rd party camera apps. (Not all of them are available in the ports, but more appear with time).
HDR + and HDR+ Enhanced: That's what most people want Gcam for. The app takes multiple pictures at different exposure levels and combines them to get even lighting. This photography technique is available on many stock cams, but Google's custom implementation of it is generally regarded as highly superior.
Super Res Zoom: That is a "usebug" feature. When you're taking a picture, unless you have a tripod, you can't hold the phone perfectly still. Google uses this slight movement to take multiple shots, which are then combined to make out more detail for the final image. Where other OEMs add a second camera, Google gives better results with just one.
Night Sight: where HDR combines multiple under-exposed shots, Night Sight does the same thing with over-exposed and longer exposed images. This produces impossible-before shots with way less noise and blur in very low-light conditions. In Daylight, Night Sight Mode also applies Super res Zoom to the image, giving a lot more detail to your pictures.
ZSL HDR+: ZSL stands for Zero Shutter Lag. As HDR uses multiple pictures, you need to wait for the phone to snap those multiple shots. ZSL essentially means your phone is always taking pictures and has a couple already buffered when you hit the shutter, so you don't need to wait.
Portrait Mode: That's blurring that background of an image behind a face. this is a trend on smartphones, and most OEMs implement it by adding a second camera on the back. the two sensors produce a slightly different image and you can calculate from the difference where to blur the image. But Google has decided not to add a second sensor to their phones. The way they pull it off is by local Artificial intelligence to detect faces and blur the rest.
Photosphere: This is essentially a 360° Panorama. You point around you and the phone takes, then stitches together, multiple images in a sphere around you. You can then view the pictures by moving them around with your fingers, or moving around your phone like a window around you.
Panorama: That is self-explanatory. like everything else, Gcam takes excellent panoramas.
Video Recording: Gcam Records video at up to [email protected]
Slow-Motion: this port can take slow-motion videos at up to [email protected]
Top Shot: Google's AI is now so good it know what a good image is like. If you hit the shutter too Soon or too late, Google will suggest another shot. It will actually take a dozen out of which you can choose, but will also suggest the best one.
Photobooth: As the camera is continually shooting and waiting for you to tap the shutter, why couldn't it do this for you too? Once Photobooth is on, you just leave your phone and it will take the picture on its own when it "sees something interesting", like a smile. Essentially, it's an AI photograph for group shots where everyone can fit in and lets you use the back sensor instead of the selfie cam.
Tracking Autofocus : As the name implies, once you click on an object while filming, it will keep the focus on it however it moves.
I am not a developer, but the subforum is for gcam ports, so here is the one for the Pocophone, with instructions and
Go to this thread, wich always has the last version up.
You are welcome to post your amazing pictures here :
These ports are specifically made for the Pocophone F1. They might or might not work on your phone.
If you find that our APK's work well on your other model, you can open a thread for your phone to help others find a working APK faster and discuss model-specific issues.
If you have bugs, something isn't working correctly, please don't just post "Not Working !!!!" That doesn't help. Give details :
- The model of your Phone, your ROM if you're using one, any fixes installed;
- The name of the apk you're using;
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It's really lag when opening any camera mod (except Panaroma and Video) and I could NOT take photos when pressing the button.
I'm Using Pocophone F1 with Global MIUI 10.1.3.0
File using: MGC_6.1.021_MI8_Vc.apk
the same issues.
Same issues for me, impossible to take photos, 1 frame per second refresh rate....
not working with several versions
When opening any camera mod (except Panaroma and Video) NOT possible take photos when pressing the button.
I'm Using Pocophone F1 , Android 9, with Global MIUI 10.1.3.0
Files used:
MGC_6.1.021_MI8_V2_plus3.apk
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MGC_6.1.021_MI8_V2_plus.apk
and
MGC_6.1.021_MI8_V2a_plus.apk ; MGC_6.1.021_MI8_V2a+_plus.apk
cr0wdelex said:
It's really lag when opening any camera mod (except Panaroma and Video) and I could NOT take photos when pressing the button.
I'm Using Pocophone F1 with Global MIUI 10.1.3.0
File using: MGC_6.1.021_MI8_Vc.apk
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Try flashing twrp fix bro. It fixed my issue.
Try installing MIUI 10 v10.2.2.0 or higher , it should fix most of problems with gcam
Love this camera ...
I installed gcam and flashed twrp fix. I was using 10.1.3.0
After 10.2 I updated it and flashed twrp fix again for the lag issue.
Now I noticed that portrait mode is not working in stock camera. ?
i downloaded and it seems fine ...
Confused a bit, what is the difference between this and the one here :
https://forum.xda-developers.com/poco-f1/themes/b-s-g-google-camera-port-developed-mi-8-t3843130
Update to miui 10.2.2.0 i installed the same version of gcam on miui 10.1.3.0 and it didnt work i manually updated to miui 10.2.2.0 and it worked to install it just use android studs guide
Maybe a dumb question.? How is "Motion" in GCam working? Is it working at all? I have never found any of these short videos. Where are they stored? I'm using a Pocophone F1.
Thank you
Working fine with poco rom stock mui 10.3.6
NOTICE TO ALL USERS: This thread has been discarded as it has already fulfilled its purpose and therefore is now no longer needed.
Please follow the NEW THREAD!
The saga continues
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/f/changelog373/
Works perfect on my chinese phone, except slow motion.
Klaus69 said:
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/f/changelog373/
Works perfect on my chinese phone, except slow motion.
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Thanks for the help! I tried this build but it's still very unresponsive. Not sure how exactly it works for you and yet somehow it doesn't work for me. Given that we both have the same Chinese version it doesn't make any sense. However I tried the latest build available from this developer (MGC_6_1_021_xcam6_beta2.apk) and it works very very well! I would even say it's close to perfect. It's just the slow motion which doesn't work at the moment.
It seems the GCam builds maintained by xtrme are the only ones which work with the Chinese version of the RN7Pro. Although these builds are aimed at MI 9, they work for the RN7Pro as well since both of them have the exact same camera sensor.
P.S. Any particular camera settings you are using with GCam? Did you import the XML config file?
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Thanks for the help! I tried this build but it's still very unresponsive. Not sure how exactly it works for you and yet somehow it doesn't work for me. Given that we both have the same Chinese version it doesn't make any sense. However I tried the latest build available from this developer (MGC_6_1_021_xcam6_beta2.apk) and it works very very well! I would even say it's close to perfect. It's just the slow motion which doesn't work at the moment.
It seems the GCam builds maintained by xtrme are the only ones which work with the Chinese version of the RN7Pro. Although these builds are aimed at MI 9, they work for the RN7Pro as well since both of them have the exact same camera sensor.
P.S. Any particular camera settings you are using with GCam? Did you import the XML config file?
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I don't use any config files.
Only enabled Pixel 2 awb, remove iso limit in dark , no enable auto exposure, and enabled dynamic black lvl.
Worked perfect on chinese rom, working perfect now on global rom.
I tested Arnova8G2 Advanced 1.4 and xtrme's xcam6_beta3. Photo, 4K video and nightshot. Both works fine.
Nope. On the Note 7 Pro, none of the versions (including this one) works perfectly. The portait mode still freezes on my Note 7 Pro from China. The Night Mode does work with this one though.
I've the Chinese note 7 pro and this one works well except for slow motion
https://f.celsoazevedo.com/file/gcamera/MGC_6.2.024_RN7_V1d_plusplus.apk
Sent from my Redmi Note 7 Pro using Tapatalk
I've been doing a lot of testing with several GCam builds on the Redmi Note 7 Pro and I finally found one which gives amazing results. Although it isn't specifically tailored for the Sony IMX586 sensor as we find with other GCam builds developed for the Mi 9 (such as the one modded by xtrme), for some reason it produces much better photos with better color accuracy, details, sharpness, exposure and dynamic range. This GCam build is modded by bulkin043 and it is tailored for a variety of different devices such as the Redmi Note 5 / Pro (whyred), Redmi Note 7 (lavender), Mi A1 (tissot), Mi A2 (jasmine), Mi 6x (wayne) and Mi 8 Lite (platina). During my extensive tests I've found this build to be exceptionally stable with smooth transitions when switching through menus and a very responsive UI.
This build is packed with a lot of great settings such as "Custom Eszdman v2.2" quality level for NightSight, Camera API2 "Metering mode", "ISO priority", and "Lens distortion correction", "Lens blur resolution" and many other unique features. Best of all it comes with a dedicated interface theme (Auto/Light/Dark) which automatically adapts to daylight or night-time conditions. Photobooth and Slow Motion aren't working unfortunately, but that's the case with many GCam builds and so it remains a work in progress.
The only bothersome issue with this build is due to the fact that it permanently crashes video mode when selecting 60fps. Please avoid this framerate for now, or else you will have to reinstall GCam to gain access to video mode again.
This Google Camera is based on the 6.2.030 version and you can download it from > HERE
I will share below the optimal settings for the Redmi Note 7 Pro (after having it thoroughly tested I've found these particular settings to give the best possible results):
[Libs]
Default from Google
[Base settings]
Back camera > Pixel 3a XL/with Pixel 3a config (perfect balance between noise control, details and sharpness with accurate exposure) or Pixel XL/with Pixel 3 config (increased noise, details and sharpness with slightly higher exposure)
Front camera > Pixel 2 XL (good colors, details and sharpness with more noise control) or Nexus 5X (greater details and sharpness with slightly more noise)
Config > Pixel 3a/with Pixel 3a XL and Pixel 3 XL AWB or Pixel 3/with Pixel XL and Pixel 2 XL AWB
[Saturation]
Front Camera > Highlight Saturation (1.9) / Shadow Saturation (2.3)
Back Camera > Highlight Saturation (1.0) / Shadow Saturation (1.6)
[Noise reduction]
Back camera > Activate
Front camera > Activate
DO NOT enable HDR+ Denoise!
[Enable these toggles]
> HDR+ Control
> Save to /DCIM/Camera
> Quick auto exposure settings
> Remove the ISO limit
> Portrait/Disable zoom
> Recompute AWB > On (mandatory!)
All other settings remain on default
NOTICE: Keep in mind that these settings have been tested only on the Redmi Note 7 Pro (China variant). For other compatible devices supported by this build you will have to experiment with the settings yourselves.
I've tested the latest xtrme GCam build and I'm very pleased to see Pixel AWB has finally been fixed. We are getting very close to a true Google Camera performance on the Mi 9 and Redmi Note 7 Pro. File size is also correct and image quality is closer to MIUI stock camera (exposure/highlight conservation is still better on stock camera though).
You can download the latest GCam build developed by xtrme from HERE
After trying various settings I've managed to find the best configuration which provides amazing image quality, with great detail, sharpness, color reproduction, noise control, exposure and dynamic range. There's one single XML config file suitable for both daytime and nighttime conditions which you can download from HERE
Here's a tutorial on how to import/export XML config files for GCam
For NightSight you need steady hands as image processing is slower, but provides maximum quality. There's also a small annoyance with my config as NightSight suggestion doesn't work with BSG Config PixelPlusNS Hdr+, but this issue will eventually be fixed.
Thanks so much @vlachorumsapiens
vlachorumsapiens said:
I've tested the latest xtrme GCam build and I'm very pleased to see Pixel AWB has finally been fixed. We are getting very close to a true Google Camera performance on the Mi 9 and Redmi Note 7 Pro. File size is also correct and image quality is closer to MIUI stock camera (exposure/highlight conservation is still better on stock camera though).
You can download the latest GCam build developed by xtrme from HERE
After trying various settings I've managed to find the best configuration which provides amazing image quality, with great detail, sharpness, color reproduction, noise control, exposure and dynamic range. There's one single XML config file suitable for both daytime and nighttime conditions which you can download from HERE
Here's a tutorial on how to import/export XML config files for GCam
After importing config file, go to Settings > Advanced > Noise Reduction > Untick & Tick again "Activate" toggles (sub-menu toggles also) in first three lenses. This procedure has to be done or else noise reduction settings won't be in effect.
For NightSight you need steady hands as image processing is slower, but provides maximum quality. There's also a small annoyance with my config as NightSight suggestion doesn't work with BSG Config PixelPlusNS Hdr+, but this issue will eventually be fixed.
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For some reasons, the latest GCam from xtreme is not working good for me. Even after using your config files, colors are still not realistic. I am using Arnova's latest and it is working great right out of the box.
AbhiAbhiBisht said:
For some reasons, the latest GCam from xtreme is not working good for me. Even after using your config files, colors are still not realistic. I am using Arnova's latest and it is working great right out of the box.
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Not sure why it's not working well for you. Which version are you using from Arnova? Is it the latest 2.0 version?
[Updated XML download link for xtrme GCam]
> disabled noise reduction settings completely (BSG Config PixelPlusNS Hdr+ module does enough noise reduction on its own)
> decreased HDR+ frames to 7
> set correction NightSight to "Off"
The result is faster image processing, reduced time for capturing photos with NightSight, increased details and sharpness with less chances to end up with blurry photos.
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Not sure why it's not working well for you. Which version are you using from Arnova? Is it the latest 2.0 version?
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Yes. Beta 5.
AbhiAbhiBisht said:
Yes. Beta 5.
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Beta5 is xtrme's version. I was inquiring about Arnova's version.
vlachorumsapiens said:
Beta5 is xtrme's version. I was inquiring about Arnova's version.
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I am sorry. This one.
https://f.celsoazevedo.com/file/gcamera/GCam_6.1.021_Advanced_V1.5.190418.1850.apk
AbhiAbhiBisht said:
I am sorry. This one.
https://f.celsoazevedo.com/file/gcamera/GCam_6.1.021_Advanced_V1.5.190418.1850.apk
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I've tried Arnova's version and it's actually very similar with xtrme's version. Color reproduction is pretty much the same when using certain libraries like "Default from Google" or "CSeUs", in combination with BSG Config PixelPlusNS Hdr+ and Pixel 3 XL for base settings. However what Arnova's GCam lacks is a special library called Xlib v2.2s which provides far better details than any other library, with much better exposure in the shadows. I've tried many different builds with many different settings, but none can come close to this one. NightSight is absolutely amazing, but image processing is slower than on Arnova's GCam because it needs more time to capture more light and apply the adequate post-processing. But the trade-off is worth it. Slower processing and maximum quality is better than faster processing and lower quality. It should come as no surprise since xtrme's version is the only build specifically tailored for the Mi 9 which has the exact same main camera sensor as the Redmi Note 7 Pro. I just don't understand why it's not working well for you. But otherwise Arnova's version can take decent photos nonetheless. I think it's a bit better than the versions modded by bulkin043 and BSG when it comes to color reproduction and NightSight.
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I've tried Arnova's version and it's actually very similar with xtrme's version. Color reproduction is pretty much the same when using certain libraries like "Default from Google" or "CSeUs", in combination with BSG Config PixelPlusNS Hdr+ and Pixel 3 XL for base settings. However what Arnova's GCam lacks is a special library called Xlib v2.2s which provides far better details than any other library, with much better exposure in the shadows. I've tried many different builds with many different settings, but none can come close to this one. NightSight is absolutely amazing, but image processing is slower than on Arnova's GCam because it needs more time to capture more light and apply the adequate post-processing. But the trade-off is worth it. Slower processing and maximum quality is better than faster processing and lower quality. It should come as no surprise since xtrme's version is the only build specifically tailored for the Mi 9 which has the exact same main camera sensor as the Redmi Note 7 Pro. I just don't understand why it's not working well for you. But otherwise Arnova's version can take decent photos nonetheless. I think it's a bit better than the versions modded by bulkin043 and BSG when it comes to color reproduction and NightSight.
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I've again tried xtreme's version of GCam and it's working fine now. But there is one issue that the phone lags extensively after taking a photo until it processes.
AbhiAbhiBisht said:
I've again tried xtreme's version of GCam and it's working fine now. But there is one issue that the phone lags extensively after taking a photo until it processes.
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Yes. That's the downside of this version of GCam. Image processing is slower than on other versions, but image quality is the best.
I have tested many of the GCam apps available from the Google Camera Port hub here
The best working one for my Moto G7 Power XT1955-4 is the GCam MOD from the developer arthur.
Test the different settings to choose what is working best for you, especially you can dig in the Advanced settings.
For example you can:
- use the H.265/HEVC format for video;
- get a RAW+JPEG control on your main screen
- get HDR+ (HDR+ and HDR+ enhaced)
- get a Night Sight shortcut for night shooting on the main camera view
- adjust many noise reduction parameters
- change and test the AWB (Default, Pixel 2, Pixel 3)
-change the JPEG quality 90%, 95%, 97% and 100%
- change the HDR+ Enhanced frames: Default=8, Medium=14, High=18, Very high=24
and many more!
You can download the latest version of the GCam back.rider apk from here
Other versions made from other developers can be downloaded from Google Camera Port hub
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EDIT August 2020:
From some time I'm using GCam modifications made from Parrot043, it was working pretty well with Android 9 before, and now with Adnroid 10 after I upgraded my Moto G7 Power to Q.
Strongly recommend you to test the Parrot043 GCam modification
If you still use Android 9, than you need GCam version 7.0.x
If you are with Android 10, then version 7.3.x or bigger is for your OS
@lubo777 can you please tell me exact settings you have as i dont really have a clue. Just need it for good pictures and portrait mode. Thanks in advance
Very low light sample made with the default G7 Power camera app and the GCam at 5:30 at the morning
Default Cam G7 Power
GCam G7 Power
Syed.yasir2 said:
@lubo777 can you please tell me exact settings you have as i dont really have a clue. Just need it for good pictures and portrait mode. Thanks in advance
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I recommend to test NOT the latest GCam MOD from back.rider version 1.3a but a bit older version which have better picture details and less noise GCam 2.6a
This was reported on the XDA page of the GCam MOD and I can confirm it.
Bellow are the settings I use: see the attachment.
If you like to install multiple versions of a GCam and test the differences you can do that easy with App Cloner app - for example you can install the latest GCam 1.3a and the older 2.6a and see the difference
Appreciate your help. Thanks mate
So what did anybody figure out? I'm using the latest by Sanity. I can never tell the difference between any of them other than the HDR rendering taking longer or shorter.
Thanks for the advice. Can anyone recommend a way to launch GCam using the default twisting moto-action? It's possible to do once the phone is unlocked, but a locked phone always launches the stock camera app.
I'm also looking for a way to save from GCam to an external sd card. The best way seems to be through using a Tasker (or similar) profile to automate moving photos over, then deleting from inboard storage. There's a GCam Tools app that replicates this behavior, but seems a bit buggy.
Cheers
There is a new version of the GCam MOD GCam_6.2.030_N7P_test1.apk which have the best results according to few tests below ...
Bellow are some day shooting examples with HDR+ and no HDR+ made with the latest version 1 of the GCam, the previous one 1.3a and version 6.1.021_N7P_test2.6a of the GCam MOD from back.rider555 made with MOTO G7 Power
My personal opinion is that the latest version is the best one according to AWB and details!
back.rider555 thank you for your work!!!
All 3 versions have the same setup, I'm attaching also my setup as a attachment below the images.
Latest version GCam_6.2.030_N7P_test1.apk NO HDR+
Latest version GCam_6.2.030_N7P_test1.apk with HDR+
Previous version GCam-6-2-024-N7-P-test1-3a NO HDR+
Previous version GCam-6-2-024-N7-P-test1-3a with HDR+
Older version GCam-6-1-021-N7-P-test2-6a NO HDR+
Older version GCam-6-1-021-N7-P-test2-6a with HDR+
The latest version GCam_6.2.030_N7P_test1 with my MOTO G7 Power have the best results as a AWB colors correctness. Also the image details are perfect!
lubo777 said:
There is a new version of the GCam MOD GCam_6.2.030_N7P_test1.apk which have the best results according to few tests below ...
Bellow are some day shooting examples with HDR+ and no HDR+ made with the latest version 1 of the GCam, the previous one 1.3a and version 6.1.021_N7P_test2.6a of the GCam MOD from back.rider555 made with MOTO G7 Power
My personal opinion is that the latest version is the best one according to AWB and details!
back.rider555 thank you for your work!!!
All 3 versions have the same setup, I'm attaching also my setup as a attachment below the images.
Latest version GCam_6.2.030_N7P_test1.apk NO HDR+
Latest version GCam_6.2.030_N7P_test1.apk with HDR+
Previous version GCam-6-2-024-N7-P-test1-3a NO HDR+
Previous version GCam-6-2-024-N7-P-test1-3a with HDR+
Older version GCam-6-1-021-N7-P-test2-6a NO HDR+
Older version GCam-6-1-021-N7-P-test2-6a with HDR+
The latest version GCam_6.2.030_N7P_test1 with my MOTO G7 Power have the best results as a AWB colors correctness. Also the image details are perfect!
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Thank you for the detailed testing and posting your photo samples. That's the most thorough I've seen yet. Personally, I feel the NO HDR+ image taken with the GCam-6-2-024-N7-P-test1-3a looked the best. Not by much, but marginally. The G7 Power images seem to have a very shallow dynamic range and the HDR+ photos from each version seems to blow out the highlights (see lower right hand corner grassy area where there is direct sunshine) more than the NO HDR+ samples. I would have expected the opposite, with the HDR photos preserving more shadow detail while taming the highlights, but the blades of grass in the NO HDR+ samples are more clearly defined.
Yesterday I discovered that I have some problems with the Focus on my MOTO G7 Power with the latest version. I don't now if there is such a problem with Nokia 7 Plus camera, probably the problem is Moto camera hardware specific ...
The problem is that in wide scenes (not closeup) in Camera Mode the focus is 100% NOT correct where I have tapped on the screen ...
In Portrait Mode everything is OK with the Focus ... very strange.
On closeup scenes the Focus is much better in Camera and Photo modes, as you can see bellow.
On all pictures the Focus is on the strawberry.
Camera mode NO HDR
Camera mode HDR+
Camera mode HDR+ enchanced
Portrait mode NO HDR+
Portrait mode HDR+
Portrait mode HDR+ enhanced
Night Sight
Night Sight
I have tested A LOT of the different GCAM Mod's and definitely 100% the best one working with all possibilities is the GCAM Mod from arthur
What in this GCAM MOD is especially useful for me:
1. The possibility to save Pictures / Video on external SD Card
2. Back and front Camera possibility to fine tune the "Noise suppression" the "Black level adjustment" and "Saturation"
3. To save Portrait pictures in the same folder with all other folders (by default GCAM saves each Portrait image in a different folder )
4. Burst mode - working perfect!!!
5. Slow motion mode
6. Exposure control features
7. Manual Focus options - especially to have focus slider on the camera screen
8. Zoom Noise suppression
9. Video Bitrate change
10. Developer Settings
In this Mode there is no Night Sight link / menu - you get perfectly working Night Sight feature on the main Camera screen in HDR+ enchanced
Below are few pictures made with this mod at night and day
for me arthurs mod isnt saving any pictures even if i set sd card folder...
mk4y said:
for me arthurs mod isnt saving any pictures even if i set sd card folder...
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I'm not using / haven't used the External Card feature, because the Internal SD Card is much faster for Burst pictures / video.
even out of the box with internal setting wont save any picture for me
mk4y said:
even out of the box with internal setting wont save any picture for me
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You use the latest version: MGCam_v.3.5.2_R4X.apk ?
Very very strange ... here is completely OK
yes only front camera pictures are saved for me!
mk4y said:
yes only front camera pictures are saved for me!
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I have the same problem with that version not being able to save to the SD card. Maybe a permissions issue.
Interestingly, the main features of the app properly display, for me, in English. But, the error message items are in cirillic....
I have found another GCam MOD which have much more Camera Extended settings and is the best working for me.
I'm testing it on my phone for few days and have to say that this GCam MOD have everything I need as a fine tinning functionality.
jlsatt4 said:
I have the same problem with that version not being able to save to the SD card. Maybe a permissions issue.
Interestingly, the main features of the app properly display, for me, in English. But, the error message items are in cirillic....
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Yes, because one of the best GCam MOD hackers are Russians ...
Hello guys
The BSG versions of the Gcam mod works really stable on our device. But there aren't optimized configs available, so the colors do need to get a little bit tweaked. In the newest versions, it's possible to save and load configs. So it would be nice if we can test some settings out. I also tried it, so you can use it as a base if you want.
Some notes about the changes:
SlibP Custom lib
some settings in "Additional modules settings" (much more to try out there, that's the main place to play around)
activated instantaneous hdr+ enhanced (hdr+ enhanced but without loading time [ZSL], but viewfinder lags a little bit while rendering the final image because of the phone's performance)
Location to place config file: \Download\MGC.8.1.101_Configs
Used Gcam version: https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-bsg/f/dl16/
There is also a thread for the A52 5G. Because both devices use the same cameras, it would be great to have one place to tinker.
Which is the apk I have to download? Why are there so many options?
Is it OK to download the fist one?
Wierd, the Samsung cam has way more HDR.
LanguageSoez said:
Which is the apk I have to download? Why are there so many options?
Is it OK to download the fist one?
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Some manufacturers only give access to the cameras for specific package names. With the Samsung ones, you should be on the safe side. You can also install different versions with different names to make tests
LanguageSoez said:
Wierd, the Samsung cam has way more HDR.
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Try to disable "instantaneous hdr+ enhanced" and make sure hdr+ enhanced is activated. I think the google stock libs are a little bit brighter, so it should also look more like HDR. There's also a setting to change how many pictures are combined for a HDR+ image, try to increase the value. For me, too much of an HDR effect makes the image unnatural
Do the app always need to restart everytime changing lense ? And I got weird flashes on screen while trying to take a picture.
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Try to disable "instantaneous hdr+ enhanced" and make sure hdr+ enhanced is activated. I think the google stock libs are a little bit brighter, so it should also look more like HDR. There's also a setting to change how many pictures are combined for a HDR+ image, try to increase the value. For me, too much of an HDR effect makes the image unnatural
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I actually agree that Samsung's pictures look better (as in more accurate to real life) when in bright conditions. GCam has slightly lower noise, but no matter what HDR mode I choose, Samsung still has better HDR and the picture looks brighter overall. GCam's night mode is much better, though.
First one is Samsung, second is Gcam. Samsung's colours are closer to life. Keep in mind that the houses are brightly lit, as this was taken in the morning and they're facing East. For example the flowers in the pot in the balcony of the left house look very bright and vivid IRL. (The sharpness of the shadows near the roof is likely due to clouds moving)
First one is Samsungs, second is Gcam HDR+, third is Gcam HDR+ Enhanced
Both Gcam HDR+ Enhanced (7 or 15 frames doesn't do much), but first one with Google's AWB (like the previous ones), second one without. The second one looks much better, but a little over-saturated. One thing I did notice in the configs is that the AWB is set for a Sony IMX686 sensor, which I don't know if it is correct. I've been unable to find details on the sensor used in the A52. In any case, It seems that the takeaway here is to keep Google's AWB off.
These were all taken using @phoberus 's config file.
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I actually agree that Samsung's pictures look better (as in more accurate to real life) when in bright conditions. GCam has slightly lower noise, but no matter what HDR mode I choose, Samsung still has better HDR and the picture looks brighter overall. GCam's night mode is much better, though.
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Thanks for the testing. I can confirm that the brightness and colors are not quite good yet. But almost everything should be adjustable. So we still have to test a bit. The sensor I got from gsmarena.com, but is just a guess from them. By default, Pixel2 would be active, which is certainly not correct, but also worked.
Brightness correction: Additional modules settings > Lens x > Exposure compensation
saturation: Additional modules settings > Lens x > Ram Patcher > Saturation (off means it gets the variables from the lib, there are also other nice settings there to create our own lib)
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Thanks for the testing. I can confirm that the brightness and colors are not quite good yet. But almost everything should be adjustable. So we still have to test a bit. The sensor I got from gsmarena.com, but is just a guess from them. By default, Pixel2 would be active, which is certainly not correct, but also worked.
Brightness correction: Additional modules settings > Lens x > Exposure compensation
saturation: Additional modules settings > Lens x > Ram Patcher > Saturation (off means it gets the variables from the lib, there are also other nice settings there to create our own lib)
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When can we expect a stable optimized and stable gcam for our device. Will you please try contacting gcam developers personally? And also, please drop a link of the gcam you think to be the best one till now.
mushfiqurmasum said:
When can we expect a stable optimized and stable gcam for our device. Will you please try contacting gcam developers personally? And also, please drop a link of the gcam you think to be the best one till now.
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BSG is only in a Russian forum active. Arnova8G2 also makes good builds, but he only enables the app for the phones he has enough testers. We could ask him here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/app-arnova8g2s-google-camera-port.3862448/
Device name: Galaxy A52
Can we get a port for Galaxy A52 4G please?
fix choppy/stuck wide angle and front camera by going into additional settings and changing camera2API level to Level3.. scan3d works fine. but pictures are dark, something with whitebalance
> used MGC_8.1.101_A9_GVt_ruler_libs.apk
> A52 4G / LTE
phoberus' config crashes my GCam viewfinder. I can't test the actual image quality yet since it's the middle of the night here as I'm posting this message.
So I tried Nikita's version, in terms of Color and HDR (default) it's the closest to the default camera app. I'm still playing around with the settings, so pictures to follow.
So, M51 has a similar camera setup with A52 so I thought I'd use a GCAM version from the M51 GCAM thread. Just testing Night mode and it's very clear that GCAM (right) works better. I'll edit this post to include more samples later.
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So, M51 has a similar camera setup with A52 so I thought I'd use a GCAM version from the M51 GCAM thread. Just testing Night mode and it's very clear that GCAM (right) works better. I'll edit this post to include more samples later.
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Any version of GCAM I tried works better in night mode than the default camera. The problems I have is with in brightly lit scenes.
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Any version of GCAM I tried works better in night mode than the default camera. The problems I have is with in brightly lit scenes.
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I actually tried a version of Greatness' GCAM and produced better daytime pictures, color was somewhat natural but it had better details (not noise). Unfortunately, I can't get the wide-angle lens and videos to work so I scrapped it.
I honestly don't mind the issues regarding color/hdr issues since a quick application of a vibrance filter is almost indistinguishable from the default cam. I mean it could be what the default samsung camera app is doing.
Edit: Also strange thing, low light (outdoor dusk scenario) and I get plenty of noise on GCAM compared to the default cam.