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Hello, I'm new to all this Android stuff (I don't even have a phone yet, but its on it way)
I have been reading up on custom ROM creation but there are some things I don't quite understand.
Let's say I have a phone in Android 2.3. I want to create an Android 4.0 ROM to put on the phone.
Now... to compile Android 4.0 I need the drivers for my phone (which I doubt I will ever have access too since its only a cheap Android with a MediaTek CPU)
So I have a 2.3 ROM that contains all the compiled drivers and the Android 4.0 source code.
Is it possible to compile 4.0 and replace the zImage (if I'm correct) with the 2.3 zImage. From what I have read, that's where all the drivers are stored.
I guess its not that simple since I also think the zImage contains the OS. If so, is it then possible to extract the zImage and replace the invalid driver files in 4.0 with the correct drivers from 2.3?
Also, I think my phone will arrive with an annoying UI, is it possible to just get any 2.3 ROM (that doesn't have an annoying UI and shares the same CPU as my phone) and replace the zImage in that with my phones 2.3 zImage?
Sorry, if my questions are stupid but this is all new to me. I've tryed to read up on this but nothing is straight to the point.
Thanks
Anyone there?
try out some roms first. see what you like and dont like. it'll probably give you a better idea for how you would make your own rom.
I don't think you could just port an entire zimage to ICs and say it will work (it might not even compile i think). It won't work. You could probably take some drivers' code (screen, speaker, etc), modify them a bit so it compiles, and test to so if it works. You more than likely have to modify the ICS code also so it works. And the zimage is just the kernel no? And the kernel really only has to do with low level system processes, drivers, etc. I think UI's and such are more fitted in frameworks and such.
Personally if it was so easy to port ICS by simply replacing the zimage or file with another, ICS would have been ported to many devices, fully working, by now.
Kailkti said:
I don't think you could just port an entire zimage to ICs and say it will work (it might not even compile i think). It won't work. You could probably take some drivers' code (screen, speaker, etc), modify them a bit so it compiles, and test to so if it works. You more than likely have to modify the ICS code also so it works. And the zimage is just the kernel no? And the kernel really only has to do with low level system processes, drivers, etc. I think UI's and such are more fitted in frameworks and such.
Personally if it was so easy to port ICS by simply replacing the zimage or file with another, ICS would have been ported to many devices, fully working, by now.
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Yeh, but my problem is I don't have the drivers for the phone. I just have the stock ROM that come with it.
Is not that simple. I am 99% sure that you can't do that.
The phone I'm getting has a horrible theme on it. Its running Android 2.3
I have the ROM for a very similar phone (also using Android 2.3), uses the exact same CPU so it should be compiled using the correct platform.
Is it possible to use that phones ROM but replace it with my phones Kernel and .prop (so it has all my phones drivers and settings etc...)?
the hard work required in making a custom rom
I think you can take from the stock rom and compared with existing custom rom
but some sources are not shared freely as an example Tegra
CMIIW
I will mess about with the ROM when I get my phone. Hopefully I wont brick it...
I too am fairly new to android. I spent a couple weeks reading and watching TONS of youtube videos on how to ROOT and Unlock my bootloader. My best advice from one n00b to another would be to do the same. In particular...research how to do it on YOUR phone. Also, Roms are device specific. I recommend you finding the forum here on XDA for your phone and read up on whatever ROMS are available here. This might not be the ONLY place to find ROMS, but this place simply rocks! Once you get your device rooted and if necessary, your bootloader unlocked...you can easily try out any ROM without much fear. Just make a good backup...make sure you also have a factory recovery image too...just in case. For backups...if you install and use Clockwork Mod (CWM) you can use the nandroid backup it offers. I bought Titanium backup from the market and used it to do a full backup before I started...it backs up to dropbox even, which was a nice feature for me. Extra safety so incase I hosed my external SD card which had my backups...I could easily retrieve a backup ANY place that had internet access. Lastly...get ready to have some FUN! Flashing ROMs is VERY addictive!! :-D
Ok, Thanks. I will see what I can do then.
ROM Ipioneer Slim 10c v0.1
A light, clean & faster rom!!!
Disclaimer:
/***
* Your warranty is now void (and I'm sure it was void before this process).
* I am not responsible for hard or soft bricked devices, boot loops, dead or corrupt sd cards, strange behavior or you getting a heart attack 'cuz your youtube app is not working properly.
* YOU and only YOU are choosing to make these modifications, do not blame on me.... I will just ignore you.
***/
iPioneer Slim 10c v0.1 is a light, clean and fast custom rom designed for the Lg G Pad X 8.0 (T-Mobile variant only) and it's aim is to become a replacement for the default system of this device.
iPioneer Slim 10c v0.1 it is light because it only takes 519.8Mb of disk space which is a big difference when you compare the 1.2Gb of a stock rom, it is clean because it only contains the essential apps to make it work properly and it is faster because the whole system have been 100% optimized.
iPioneer it have been designed with the User Freedom in mind, it only provides you with the basic OS so you can do what you need to do on top of that.
Features:
Based on stock (10c)
Rooted
Busyboxed
Init.d Support
Extremely debloated (very serious)
Deodexed
Zipaligned
Nova as default launcher
Installation instructions:
Download the rom to your desire location (link to download to the end of this post).
Boot into Twrp recovery and do a standard wipe (factory reset).
Install the downloaded rom .zip.
Reboot the device.
Be patient, is going to take more time than a regular stock rom to boot into the system, at first is going to be stuck at T-Mobile logo but after few seconds is going to enter into App Optimization mode and after that you will be able to setup your system.
Enjoy it.
First things to do after you install this rom:
Add your google account (if you didn't complete that step at the first setup).
Download your favorite app manager (Rom Toolbox, Titanium, etc.).
Freeze the application called App Updates in order to stop the system update beacon for OTA. I removed 3 core apps in order to stop OTAs but it seems to be very integrated with the system, there is no way I can remove it from the rom without breaking the system. This is the most practical way to my knowledge right now.
Optionals things to do after you install this rom:
You can uninstall Nova Launcher if you want as is not part of the system apps, but before you need to install your favorite launcher. If you don't install another launcher and remove Nova you will have a broken system and most likely you'll have to re-flash the rom.
On purpose bugs and missing options:
On purpose bugs are bugs that comes when you remove a functionality from the system but it can not be removed from a third party component, example: LG VPN app it has been removed but the options remains in the Settings of the device and when you tap that option you will provoke a crash event, the way to resolve this is to decode the third party component (very difficult) or reinstall the missing part (in this case the LG VPN app).
iPioneer Slim 0.1 it comes without some apps that can not be removed from the system setting options, this is like that because I believe that these apps are not necessary for all people, if someone need them they can be downloaded/replaced from the Play Store or I will provide a flashable file with these apps so you can install them.
On Purpose bugs (located at settings):
From the Share & Connect menu:
File Sharing that contains BLE and Android Beam doesn't work, package SmartShare it has been removed.
Media Server (DLNA) doesn't work, package SmartShare that also contains SmartShare.MediaServer it has been removed.
Lg Airdrive doesn't work, package LGAirDrive & LGAirDriveSettings were removed.
From More>VPN menu:
LG VPN doesn't work, package VpnClient_LG it has been removed. Basic VPN it works.
From Display menu:
Home screen doesn't work, packages LGHome, HomeSelector, LGHome_Theme_Optimus, com.lge.launcher3, com.lge.launcher2.theme.optimus were removed.
If you need these options to be available on your system just download these app on Play Store if they are available or just wait until I have ready the System Apps flashable zips.
Missing options (located at settings):
Smart Cleaning not present, package LGSpringCleaning it has been removed.
Cloud (cloud integration in settings) not present, package CloudHub (maybe dependant on SmartShare package) it has been removed, please also note that this cloud integration it was integrated on the stock File Manager, so... if you want a full integration of the Cloud service on settings maybe you will have to install the stock File Manager provided by LGFileManager package.
From Backup & reset menu:
LG Backup is not present, packages LGBackupLauncher and LGBackup were removed.
From About tablet menu:
Update Center and its content (App updates & System updates) is not present, packages com.lge.appbox.client (app updates), com.lge.updatecenter & LGUpdateCenter (main menu for updates) were removed.
If you need these options to be available on your system just download these app on Play Store if they are available or just wait until I have ready the System Apps flashable zips.Flashable zip with system apps:
Coming soon when I have a free time.
What to do if you get the OTA notification:
Freeze the app called App Updates with your favorite app manager.
With your favorite file manager go to /cache and delete the update.zip (the downloaded ota).
Tap on Restart & Install button on OTA pop-up, the pop-up it will start counting to 0 in order to restart but your device won't restart because there are 3 core apps removed from this rom plus 1 app that you just disabled (all these 4 app controls the OTA), the notification is just gonna disappear, push recent button and clear the ota pop-up window.
Bugs Report:
If you find a bug in this rom just notify me about that in this thread, please, just use the title as "Bug Report" so I can pay close attention to that, my time is very limited. Thank you.
Feature Request:
If you want a feature to be added into future revisions of this rom just notify me about that in this thread, please, just use the title as "Feature Request" so I can pay close attention to that, my time is very limited. Thank you.
More info:
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Device: Lg G Pad X 8.0
Model: LGV521
Code Name: b3
Carrier: T-Mobile
Android version: 6.0.1
Security patch level: 2016-07-01
Software version: V52110c
Link: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=385035244224403624
Screenshots:
Default View: (sorry guys, I was not able fix Nova in order to show an organized and clean layout by default).
Default App Drawer: remember this is an extremely debloated rom, only the most basic core apps remains.
Settings view, yes some options are not present, read above about this.
Software info.
Reserved 2...
For some reason this post doesn't show up on ET page: lg-g-padx
Too bad, a lot of people won't be able to see this rom, but I can do nothing.
If someone knows an admin who can fix this issue please make mention of this post to him. I would do it but I don't have the time to.
Thank you.
Some screenshots added on post #2...
How fast does it run compared to the stock rom?
Munns86 said:
How fast does it run compared to the stock rom?
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How fast it can go is a subjective matter:
It will depend on hardware lifetime span (how you use it and how other people use this tablet).
It will depend how much apps and content you put in it (the more things you download the more slow android is gonna be, this is kind a Swap area).
I did not do a benchmark, when I declared that is faster than a stock rom is because that speed response enhacement it comes based on the Deodex and Zipalign process. It can be or maybe not noticeable to your eyes but based on deodex and zipalign process is for sure that is faster than an odex and not-zipaligned rom.
The best answer is that you need to try it on your own and see the difference.
Sent from my LG-H918 using Tapatalk
Poll added at the beginning (not visible in tapatalk or xda app).
Please only select the apps that you really need or you really think that should comes with the next revision of iPioneer Slim rom.
This will help me to build a better version with features that users needs.
C'mon guys... only 3 users have use the poll...
I need more data background in order to release a new version of the Slim line version (may be the last one).
All V521 users please contribute with this.
Right now I'm testing a new build that it seems to have success stoping ota download and notification & I have removed even more bloat background packages.
As of today I start the syncing process of CyanogenMod for our device, so all I ask is that V521 users vote in the poll so I can build and release what I think it would be the last Slim version (iPioneer Slim 0.2) based on users needs.
Once I start the developtment with CM I will not pay attentions to the Stock & Slim version until I finish with what is gonna become iPioneer CM 13.
Thank you for your attention guys.
BTW: sorry for my english, I try so hard to write all this in a good way. Arriba Mexico Papa!!!
xtremelora said:
C'mon guys... only 3 users have use the poll...
I need more data background in order to release a new version of the Slim line version (may be the last one).
All V521 users please contribute with this.
Right now I'm testing a new build that it seems to have success stoping ota download and notification & I have removed even more bloat background packages.
As of today I start the syncing process of CyanogenMod for our device, so all I ask is that V521 users vote in the poll so I can build and release what I think it would be the last Slim version (iPioneer Slim 0.2) based on users needs.
Once I start the developtment with CM I will not pay attentions to the Stock & Slim version until I finish with what is gonna become iPioneer CM 13.
Thank you for your attention guys.
BTW: sorry for my english, I try so hard to write all this in a good way. Arriba Mexico Papa!!!
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The reason is that the xda app can't see the vote going on.
Personally, I will be excited to see a cm/aosp custom build, which will sure draw much more attention.
googlephone said:
The reason is that the xda app can't see the vote going on.
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But it is visible and operable through a normal web browser in android: http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-...ioneer-slim-0-1-lg-g-pad-x-8-0-t3513030/page1
Or the option LOAD IN BROWSER in xda app and WEB VIEW in tapatalk...
xtremelora said:
But it is visible and operable through a normal web browser in android: http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-...ioneer-slim-0-1-lg-g-pad-x-8-0-t3513030/page1
Or the option LOAD IN BROWSER in xda app and WEB VIEW in tapatalk...
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Another reason is not many users are interested enough in a slimmed stock rom. The benefits of a slimmed stock rom may include less system storage usage. But the free uped system storage is not accessible for users to use as data storage anyway. Speedwise, I wouldn't expect noticeable improvement from a slimmed stock rom. As a result, the benefits of a slimmed stock rom is not enough to draw users' attention or interest.
I am a flashholic but I actually not interested in slimmed stock at all because I already have root.
I personally advise you to not spend too much time on modified stock rom.
I appreciate your work and look forward to your future possible cm rom, which I will definitely try it out and will draw many g pad x users here. And don't forget there is a bounty for custom roms like cm.
googlephone said:
Another reason is not many users are interested enough in a slimmed stock rom. The benefits of a slimmed stock rom may include less system storage usage. But the free uped system storage is not accessible for users to use as data storage anyway. Speedwise, I wouldn't expect noticeable improvement from a slimmed stock rom. As a result, the benefits of a slimmed stock rom is not enough to draw users' attention or interest.
I am a flashholic but I actually not interested in slimmed stock at all because I already have root.
I personally advise you to not spend too much time on modified stock rom.
I appreciate your work and look forward to your future possible cm rom, which I will definitely try it out and will draw many g pad x users here. And don't forget there is a bounty for custom roms like cm.
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You are right about working in a stock version. The reason why I'm doing this is because we all know that CM most of the time has bugs, bluetooh problems, camera issues, data conectivity troubles, etc...
Sooooo, if the version of CM I'm going to compile it results with many bugs there is gonna be the option to go back to stock slimed or stock bloated.
I can build a CM verion but Im not the kind of guy who inverts his time in CODE MODIFICATION, so hopefully the build it comes with no bugs at all or at least no major bugs.
The other alternative is that I can sync, compile and build and one more guys can do the bug fixes.
xtremelora said:
You are right about working in a stock version. The reason why I'm doing this is because we all know that CM most of the time has bugs, bluetooh problems, camera issues, data conectivity troubles, etc...
Sooooo, if the version of CM I'm going to compile it results with many bugs there is gonna be the option to go back to stock slimed or stock bloated.
I can build a CM verion but Im not the kind of guy who inverts his time in CODE MODIFICATION, so hopefully the build it comes with no bugs at all or at least no major bugs.
The other alternative is that I can sync, compile and build and one more guys can do the bug fixes.
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That would be great! I think if you took a poll most people would prefer a CM build to a slimmed down stock build.
Munns86 said:
That would be great! I think if you took a poll most people would prefer a CM build to a slimmed down stock build.
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Yeah, I know that. Wish me luck.
Right now I'm stuck trying to get the Blobs for this device and compiling the kernel so I can build the CM recovery, once I have the recovery done I can start compiling CM and start testing.
I'm trying to by pass the kernel (as is not need it right now to build the recovery) but for some reason the system is demanding an standard and working kernel... weird...
But honestly speaking is gonna take lot of time. So be patient guys.
xtremelora said:
Yeah, I know that. Wish me luck.
Right now I'm stuck trying to get the Blobs for this device and compiling the kernel so I can build the CM recovery, once I have the recovery done I can start compiling CM and start testing.
I'm trying to by pass the kernel (as is not need it right now to build the recovery) but for some reason the system is demanding an standard and working kernel... weird...
But honestly speaking is gonna take lot of time. So be patient guys.
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There is already a TWRP recovery for v521. Why you need to compile cm recovery?
googlephone said:
There is already a TWRP recovery for v521. Why you need to compile cm recovery?
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Ik, is just a prebuilt because our device doesnt have a device tree or structure already, so making this at first is gonna help me to buil the cm zip.
Is not need it if a device tree already exist but not in this case, just see it like a pretesting of code for this device.
When I try to compile this recovery things are gonna break so you get info of what is missing, what you need, log, etc... So you fix everything you can in this step and then you build the cm.zip in a better way (less issues).
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xtremelora said:
Ik, is just a prebuilt because our device doesnt have a device tree or structure already, so making this at first is gonna help me to buil the cm zip.
Is not need it if a device tree already exist but not in this case, just see it like a pretesting of code for this device.
When I try to compile this recovery things are gonna break so you get info of what is missing, what you need, log, etc... So you fix everything you can in this step and then you build the cm.zip in a better way (less issues).
Sent from my LG-H918 using Tapatalk
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https://github.com/Shabbypenguin/android_device_lge_b3
device tree has been around for a while, it obviously will need some renaming to work for cm source but its a good foundation to start with.
shabbypenguin said:
https://github.com/Shabbypenguin/android_device_lge_b3
device tree has been around for a while, it obviously will need some renaming to work for cm source but its a good foundation to start with.
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These are your device tree for twrp 4 b3 right?
Let me see if I can work with that, I was almost done building the cm.recovery and fixing some boot.img issues but if I can take your files that would save time.
Did you forked that device tree or u just build it from scratch?
If you forked them, from what device?
I was thinking on pulling the v500 just to figure out some sort of missing info I havent been able to catch from ramdisk.
xtremelora said:
These are your device tree for twrp 4 b3 right?
Let me see if I can work with that, I was almost done building the cm.recovery and fixing some boot.img issues but if I can take your files that would save time.
Did you forked that device tree or u just build it from scratch?
If you forked them, from what device?
I was thinking on pulling the v500 just to figure out some sort of missing info I havent been able to catch from ramdisk.
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i built it from scratch, id be careful looking too much at the v500, it's a snapdragon 600 SOC which is very old and is a quad core. the 615 in the g pad x is octacore and much newer. even the ramdisk is going to have big differences in how its handled.
Hey folks. I've a pickle. Several of my friends and associates, all from different walks of life, here in OKC, Ok, are the victim of software exploitation...let me explain...
I'm a computer - I.T. guy.. have a history involving Unix and LInux Distro's and have avoided Android until recently.
Currently my devices have been hijacked. Running processes include:
Google Framekework
Wi-Fi Direct
Sim contacts
Launcher 3
QcrilMessageTunnelService
Ive a cheap pre-paid verizon Alcatel 5905s Due to my Premium Devices being hacked
It has
Android 8.1.0 I cant update
Kernal 3.18.71
3d5xufx1
Baseband 7Genns Pack1.201905.1.236923.1
My other devices will run 15 or more services within Googleplayservices.... The Apk versions of these packages like: GoogleplayServices, Android Auto, Facebook Manager (I dont use it btw), etc..all ridiculous permissions include root access and such....
My bluetooth, cameras, wi-fi - are all being turned on by the apps permissions and need help. Again I'm familiar with the Android System a bit - having a I.T. and Unix/Linux background I can come up to speed quickly....
Technology - especially opensource technology should never EVER be used like this. I have encountered a problem which effects a lot of good people. Regardless of their goodness badness or whatever - no one should ever use technology in this way....
My questions are:
Some of my friends and their devices have custom roms === How can I remove them? J3 x2 J7, A10. A11, Alcatel 5095s, LG 322DL and AQT 100 tablet to start....
Each of the above programs utilize Googleplayservices to have extremely stupid permissions and their corrosponding related aps....
Im even giving numbers for anyone to call: 4zerofive921sixfour49 Wade and 405eighthtreeefour30sevenzero chris
if you can help...please do....
Why not simply on hijacked devices re-flash their Stock ROM to get rid off of the installed Custom ROM?
Although Android is based on a modified Linux kernel, it has nothing in common with Linux: the Android Framework, which is based on Java APIs, is the interesting part.
And: Nobody is forced to make use of Google Play Services / Google Services Framework: Custom ROMs like LineageOS don't have them built-in.
jwoegerbauer said:
Why not simply on hijacked devices re-flash their Stock ROM to get rid off of the installed Custom ROM?
Although Android is based on a modified Linux kernel, it has nothing in common with Linux: the Android Framework, which is based on Java APIs, is the interesting part.
And: Nobody is forced to make use of Google Play Services / Google Services Framework: Custom ROMs like LineageOS don't have them built-in.
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Ok. Please let me in on this. It's intriguing. First I know little of Java but have started to begin learning development basics...so my questions are...
So I have an LG322dl....there seems to be no good info on ROMS my way...but then again these "apps' prevent me from looking at things that counter their functions....
I have ADB /Fastboot - and run Ubuntu 20.04. Theres a J7 that I tried to Flash but Heidall didnt work and dont know where else to turn... Theres also the Alcatel 5059s
I have 2 J3's the J7 an LG 322Dl and a Sam A11...i have read what is on here on each of the items. Basically I am told the LG no one can flash...(i dont believe it) the Alcatel is a headcache because I cant get any solid info...the A11 is now Google LOcked , and the Samsungs the original Flahing with Heidall doesnt do squat.....
Now all I understand are probably basics to you... If you got an issue you can flash your phone with the MF's Factory Build...but if your bootloader is locked, say - like on my A11 - I cant bypass for ****. I tried every which way 30 plus hours.... nothing... and it had my original fingerprint!
Also, the methods for each of my devices listed by users here and elsewhere just dont seem to work...
Can you please....explain to me the process to flash and or install a custom rom please?
thanks
Can't guide you: never have flashed a Custom ROM, because it never was necessary to do it.
I have the MTK6889 Note 30 Plus it has a 10 core Processor 1440x1340 graphics 512 gigs storage and 12 gigs of ram dual sim cards micro sd card add on sounds Great Huh? well in there lies the problem it says it comes with android 10 pre installed and it does a custom version of it android 10 and lollyPop 4.1 so what i want to know is can i wipe this phone which is an unlocked phone and install android 11 on it and have a somewhat decent phone because right now it sucks and it even has a 48 mp rear camra and i believe the front is like 13 i really like the phone but because of the way they set it up it does not work right at all like it tells me im running out of storage space when there is over 500 gigs blank and i cant have updated programs because it wont download them saying not compatable its crazy.
Never heard that an Android phone comes with with 2 Android versions installed - as you say Android 4.1 & Android 10 - unless it would be a dual-boot phone.
No its not a dual boot phone but it does have a custom built android 10 whom ever built the phone must have had some things that her or she liked from 4.4.1 lolypop i was going through a bunch of the files and aplications last night and it has lollypops UI or something i just want a normal phone that works with android 10 or 11 i mean this phone has some great properties about it just not the Operating system can you help me set it up better?
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No its not a dual boot phone but it does have a custom built android 10 whom ever built the phone must have had some things that her or she liked from 4.4.1 lolypop i was going through a bunch of the files and aplications last night and it has lollypops UI or something i just want a normal phone that works with android 10 or 11 i mean this phone has some great properties about it just not the Operating system can you help me set it up better?
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Hi FrankL5862,
I'm familiar with the issue, also got a bricked "Note30 Plus" and an also Chinese clone of "S21 Plus 5G".
The Android OS is made into a custom ROM of Lollipop 5.1.1 thats the base Android OS. While they say it's
a Android OS 10 or 11 version they also cheated about the other specifications... You can easely check it with
"Droid Hardware Info" or "Device Info HW" both apps are available as APK-file or in the Google Playstore.
So basicly the smartphone is fake cause of the specs... But it is nice to play around with it and use it to get
more of the control of MediaTek based machine
Can maybe anyone get for me the firmware for the "Maimeite Note30 Plus MT6572" and for the "S21 Plus 5G MT6580"? Haven't found them yet...
FrankL5862 said:
No its not a dual boot phone but it does have a custom built android 10 whom ever built the phone must have had some things that her or she liked from 4.4.1 lolypop i was going through a bunch of the files and aplications last night and it has lollypops UI or something i just want a normal phone that works with android 10 or 11 i mean this phone has some great properties about it just not the Operating system can you help me set it up better?
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did u ever get an answer to this question
Hi
My first time here.
I've seen there is a forum specifically for this buy I'm not sure if my question should go there or here.
Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries
I have a Samsung J500FN with Android 6.0.1 and I'm looking for a custom ROM that can make it last a bit longer. Here are my requirements.
I don't want to root it as that will probably not allow me to use my banking app.
I need a ROM that does not have, or allows me to remove, all the bloat that comes from factory: word, excel, weather, powerpoint, chrome, facebook, samsung's internet, etc.
I've seen that some of the available ROMs come with Android 8, 9 and even 10 but I suspect these OSs take up a lot more space. If that is so I don't want them as my mobile only has 8 GB and I don't want to have to spend my days deleting cache, memory and apps.
Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance, Eduardo
Eduardo de Juan said:
Hi
My first time here.
I've seen there is a forum specifically for this buy I'm not sure if my question should go there or here.
Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries
I have a Samsung J500FN with Android 6.0.1 and I'm looking for a custom ROM that can make it last a bit longer. Here are my requirements.
I don't want to root it as that will probably not allow me to use my banking app.
I need a ROM that does not have, or allows me to remove, all the bloat that comes from factory: word, excel, weather, powerpoint, chrome, facebook, samsung's internet, etc.
I've seen that some of the available ROMs come with Android 8, 9 and even 10 but I suspect these OSs take up a lot more space. If that is so I don't want them as my mobile only has 8 GB and I don't want to have to spend my days deleting cache, memory and apps.
Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance, Eduardo
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chill bro,
1) for banking app like sbi uno and other use magisk. its open source and works well to hide root.
2) android 7 would be great for you because samsung switched to art in it and is a lot faster smooth and consume less space and is supported by most apps.
3) i know the pain of having 8gb rom so, try to use opera mini instated of chrome and try to optimise system by removing unnecessary software using root+magisk.
4) android 9 is also good. just flash try and see if its what you need.
thanks hit like if i helped.
@Eduardo de Juan
IMHO LineageOS is the right choice for you.
How To Install Lineage OS 17.1 for Samsung Galaxy J (Android 10 Q)
Now you can install Lineage OS 17.1 on Samsung Galaxy J which is stable enough to use as a daily driver. Finally, Android 10 Q is official
www.getdroidtips.com
[email protected] said:
chill bro,
1) for banking app like sbi uno and other use magisk. its open source and works well to hide root.
2) android 7 would be great for you because samsung switched to art in it and is a lot faster smooth and consume less space and is supported by most apps.
3) i know the pain of having 8gb rom so, try to use opera mini instated of chrome and try to optimise system by removing unnecessary software using root+magisk.
4) android 9 is also good. just flash try and see if its what you need.
thanks hit like if i helped.
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I would like to try Android 7 if it's lighter then Android 6 but I prefer not to have root.
I've been reading that ING app doesn't work with magisk so I prefer not to struggle there.
Why doesn't my phone automatically update to Android 7, doesn't Samsung provide for this?
Where can I download a Android 7 ROM ?
BR, E
jwoegerbauer said:
@Eduardo de Juan
IMHO LineageOS is the right choice for you.
How To Install Lineage OS 17.1 for Samsung Galaxy J (Android 10 Q)
Now you can install Lineage OS 17.1 on Samsung Galaxy J which is stable enough to use as a daily driver. Finally, Android 10 Q is official
www.getdroidtips.com
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Do you think that even if it's Android 10 it will be lighter than my present Android 6?
As I mentioned I don't want to root. I see that the link you included has a GAPPs installation so I guess the Lineage ROM comes without those.
I use OpenSuse linux so I would like to install from there, any problems?
Otherwise can I do it from a Windows 7 virtual machine?
BR
It really doesn't matter whether it's Android 10 or Android 6 or whatever version what is running. As with any Android for each app a predefined heap size ( the maximum amount of RAM the app can allocate ) exists which is passed through configuration properties inside Android's build.prop file. Usually, heap size is relative to the RAM size of the Android device. So, an Android device with 1 GB of RAM will normally have a heap size of 128 MB and a device with 2+ GB RAM a heap size of 256 MB.
Assuming Android OS itself is eating 500 MB RAM to properly run, then on your phone can - at maximum - run up to 30 apps using 256 MB ( large-heap-size ) simultaneously.
jwoegerbauer said:
It really doesn't matter whether it's Android 10 or Android 6 or whatever version what is running. As with any Android for each app a predefined heap size ( the maximum amount of RAM the app can allocate ) exists which is passed through configuration properties inside Android's build.prop file. Usually, heap size is relative to the RAM size of the Android device. So, an Android device with 1 GB of RAM will normally have a heap size of 128 MB and a device with 2+ GB RAM a heap size of 256 MB.
Assuming Android OS itself is eating 500 MB RAM to properly run, then on your phone can - at maximum - run up to 30 apps using 256 MB ( large-heap-size ) simultaneously.
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Thanks for your reply.
What I meant by lighter refers to the scarce 8 Gb on my device, not the RAM. With only 8 Gb there is a very low limit to the amount of apps I can install. Maybe with Lineage there is more of those 8 Gb free.
And that takes me to the Gapps packages. When reading the link for Gapps it offers various packages and I'm a bit lost as to which I should download.
Open Gapps for LineageOS 17.1 GSI build: Download
Open Gapps for Android 10
ARM: Download Open Gapps 10 ARM Zip
ARM64: Download Open Gapps 10 ARM64 Zip
BiTGApps for Android 10 Custom ROM | Link
GApps for LineageOS 17 | Link
BR
I've downloaded the Lineage ROM file and have a doubt about the name of the file and whether it's valid for my model. The name of the file is
lineage-17.1-20201213-UNOFFICIAL-js01lte.zip
What worries me is the "...js01lte" part.
My mobile is SM-J500FN, also "j5nlte"
BR
ok, I think I'm almost ready to flash my first ever custom rom.
I've been reading to understand what I'm getting into.
One doubt. It seems that TWRP is capable of installing the custom rom without me telling it what partition it should be flashed to.
My question, if I want to flash a Samsung stock ROM can I also use TWRP or must I use Odin or Heimdall and flash it to the appropriate partition?
BR, Eduardo
Before I proceed
Installation instructions state "Then, select the System, Vendor, Data, and the Cache partition and perform a right swipe to format the selected partitions."
My device doesn't show the vendor partition.
Is it ok to proceed ?
Eduardo de Juan said:
Before I proceed
Installation instructions state "Then, select the System, Vendor, Data, and the Cache partition and perform a right swipe to format the selected partitions."
My device doesn't show the vendor partition.
Is it ok to proceed ?
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Still insstalling? I think lineageOS is not the right solution for you. I got the same phone and made it work by disabling bloatware.
Hi Kurtin
from what I've learnt until now disabling bloatware doesn't free up any space, it just doesn't show but it's still there.
You need to see the partitions separately. The stock version of each app is stored in system partition. That is no problem. You can't use free space in system partition.
Our problem is data partition. Each enabled app will try to store it's data and updates in data partition. That makes the device unusable.
I think I understand what you mean and therefore installing a different ROM won't help unless it changes the partition setup.
Thanks for your support.
Eduardo de Juan said:
I think I understand what you mean and therefore installing a different ROM won't help unless it changes the partition setup.
Thanks for your support.
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Installing a different ROM will help. Custom ROMs usually have less bloatware that occupies data partition for updates.
Same effect as disabling apps in stock ROM.
Hi
our exchange started when you stated "I think lineageOS is not the right solution for you. I got the same phone and made it work by disabling bloatware."
Can you propose a better custom ROM that addresses our needs or didn't you explore that track?
Eduardo de Juan said:
Hi
our exchange started when you stated "I think lineageOS is not the right solution for you. I got the same phone and made it work by disabling bloatware."
Can you propose a better custom ROM that addresses our needs or didn't you explore that track?
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LineageOS 17.1 should be OK.