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As the saying goes, "the squeaky wheel gets the grease," right? I believe if enough of us email Big Sammy about our discrepancy with these locked bootloaders, perhaps we will get some sort of reply? Even if the answer is a no, wouldn't that be better than false hope? I posted the email address in another board yesterday and felt it needed it's own thread. So here goes: [email protected]
I called Samsung four times yesterday, and on the fourth try, successfully got escalated to a level two technical support agent. He, and the other agents I had the pleasure of speaking to, had no information about future updates, bootloaders, or anything pertaining to root. BUT he did say I could email my complaint to Samsungs President. He stated that as a user who typically gains root on his devices, he understood where I was coming from. I asked what phones he has and he replied (paraphrased) "a galaxy S5 international, rooted and an ASUS device, also rooted,". I think Samsung needs to know that they've killed all potential development on a spectacular device and, in turn, have lost loyal customers because of it.
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42freelancer said:
As the saying goes, "the squeaky wheel gets the grease," right? I believe if enough of us email Big Sammy about our discrepancy with these locked bootloaders, perhaps we will get some sort of reply? Even if the answer is a no, wouldn't that be better than false hope? I posted the email address in another board yesterday and felt it needed it's own thread. So here goes: [email protected]
I called Samsung four times yesterday, and on the fourth try, successfully got escalated to a level two technical support agent. He, and the other agents I had the pleasure of speaking to, had no information about future updates, bootloaders, or anything pertaining to root. BUT he did say I could email my complaint to Samsungs President. He stated that as a user who typically gains root on his devices, he understood where I was coming from. I asked what phones he has and he replied (paraphrased) "a galaxy S5 international, rooted and an ASUS device, also rooted,". I think Samsung needs to know that they've killed all potential development on a spectacular device and, in turn, have lost loyal customers because of it.
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Samsung gained too much market share and isn't trying to applease the minority. They did this with the s6 sd card slot removal and sales drop but didn't learned their lesson. Money talks, do but the next samsung device and let them know why.
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I going to get rid of the phone this week and get the HTC10. Not just because of no root.
1.Phone is to small for my hands.
2. I find the buttons on the bottom of the phone are more troublesome than helpful.
3. The pulldown is always opening Google voice When you swipe down
4.phone is always turning on movies or music in my pocket.
With all that said,I did write the letter
BR7fan said:
I going to get rid of the phone this week and get the HTC10. Not just because of no root.
1.Phone is to small for my hands.
2. I find the buttons on the bottom of the phone are more troublesome than helpful.
3. The pulldown is always opening Google voice When you swipe down
4.phone is always turning on movies or music in my pocket.
With all that said,I did write the letter
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I can't say I blame you. I've noticed that a majority of known developers are leaving for the HTC. I may follow suit once my term is up on my S7. So sad to see such a great device collapse into itself like this. Despite its shortcomings, I really enjoy my S7. However, bloatware, the inability to speed up the device and manage other root privileges is seriously ruining my experience.
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42freelancer said:
I can't say I blame you. I've noticed that a majority of known developers are leaving for the HTC. I may follow suit once my term is up on my S7. So sad to see such a great device collapse into itself like this. Despite its shortcomings, I really enjoy my S7. However, bloatware, the inability to speed up the device and manage other root privileges is seriously ruining my experience.
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Question. isn't Android 6.0 to blame for a lot of the new security features ? aren't the locked bootloaders , to secure all the " PAY " features in these new phones ?
just a newbie question ps I hate my HTC M9 and it is also locked on boot lader has S-ON too
I emailed the " sunshine" crew about removing the S=ON so far no one has contacted me, and I gave the same email I use in here.
since I WILL NEVER put my credit card info into the phone , I could care less if after rooting a phone I get some sort of virus that might steal my contacts , who cares .
sure would like to know what you will develop on HTC 6.0 that you can't on a S7 running 6.0 or 6.0.1 Android OS?
thanks for putting up . old **** here
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Question. isn't Android 6.0 to blame for a lot of the new security features ? aren't the locked bootloaders , to secure all the " PAY " features in these new phones ?
just a newbie question ps I hate my HTC M9 and it is also locked on boot lader has S-ON too
I emailed the " sunshine" crew about removing the S=ON so far no one has contacted me, and I gave the same email I use in here.
since I WILL NEVER put my credit card info into the phone , I could care less if after rooting a phone I get some sort of virus that might steal my contacts , who cares .
sure would like to know what you will develop on HTC 6.0 that you can't on a S7 running 6.0 or 6.0.1 Android OS?
thanks for putting up . old **** here
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You go to the HTC site to unlock your bootloader (free).
You use PayPal to pay for sunshine unlock,they don't get your credit card number. Sunshine crew is very reputable, they gave me S-off on my M9
Well if everyone has given up on the Qualcomm version of the S7, then there is no need for this thread. I've seen quite a bit of activity in the Exynos variant threads. Has anyone checked to see if tmobile can be run on it? I'd fork out the cash for one if it were a smart move.
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BR7fan said:
You go to the HTC site to unlock your bootloader (free).
You use PayPal to pay for sunshine unlock,they don't get your credit card number. Sunshine crew is very reputable, they gave me S-off on my M9
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thanks will try your suggestion next. finally got this M9 rooted, all my failures were due to the bootloader that I unlocked, somehow , got locked up again , only thing I can think of is the RESET's I did from settings ?
anyway I re-unlocked it again , and this time TWRP finally installed. now I need to re read posts telling me what S=OFF would do for me.
thanks again
S-off means literally security off which means your bootloader is unlocked.
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thanks will try your suggestion next. finally got this M9 rooted, all my failures were due to the bootloader that I unlocked, somehow , got locked up again , only thing I can think of is the RESET's I did from settings ?
anyway I re-unlocked it again , and this time TWRP finally installed. now I need to re read posts telling me what S=OFF would do for me.
thanks again
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It'll allow you to install updated firmware for your phone
F Samsung, last one. I'm butt hurt, to the level of stiches.
sent from my bootloader locked $700 SM-G930T.
I emailed for you. I don't expect any sort of reply. I already ordered the HTC 10 and have all the tools ready to unlock it and flash away.
If an exploit is found, I would come back to Samsung in a heartbeat, though!
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Well I think an exploit has been found,but Samsung is lurking in xda. They said it safe for all, they're just waiting to do a tutorial for it and avoid samsung from patching. The newest update seem to have patched this certain exploit so don't update.
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Well I think an exploit has been found,but Samsung is lurking in xda. They said it safe for all, they're just waiting to do a tutorial for it and avoid samsung from patching. The newest update seem to have patched this certain exploit so don't update.
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Source?
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Well I think an exploit has been found,but Samsung is lurking in xda. They said it safe for all, they're just waiting to do a tutorial for it and avoid samsung from patching. The newest update seem to have patched this certain exploit so don't update.
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I'd like a source as well.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-s7-edge/help/code-t3379915/page27
I quickly threw his post but keep in mind he is working with the sprint variant.
Once they can confirm it's safe.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-s7-edge/help/code-t3379915/page27
I quickly threw his post but keep in mind he is working with the sprint variant.
Once they can confirm it's safe.
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Thanks friend. Glad someone is still working for an exploit and that you're skimming the threads. [emoji106] [emoji106]
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42freelancer said:
Thanks friend. Glad someone is still working for an exploit and that you're skimming the threads. [emoji106] [emoji106]
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This also looks promising.
https://mobile.twitter.com/laginimaineb/status/737051964857561093
dogswind said:
I emailed for you. I don't expect any sort of reply. I already ordered the HTC 10 and have all the tools ready to unlock it and flash away.
If an exploit is found, I would come back to Samsung in a heartbeat, though!
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I just gave that phone back. Can't see the screen with sunglasses on unless it's sideways. The flow of everything didn't make any sense to me and I didn't find the camera halfway special. Just my opinion andexperience. I had the phone 2 days before giving it back.
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Thanks friend. Glad someone is still working for an exploit and that you're skimming the threads. [emoji106] [emoji106]
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We need a good development to test this out plz, thanx in advance.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-s7-edge/help/code-t3379915/page35
So I just picked up a refurbished Sprint v20. It is currently at zv3 so i'll be able to use Dirty Santa. My issue is do I? I know there's no going back since there isnt a factory image for Sprint.
If you've unlocked, are you happy you did so?
Very happy. but im biased since i made it...
Well, I didn't need much convincing. Thanks! Very smooth process, it's really nice to actually have TWRP on a lg phone again. Haven't had that since my LG G2.
yea it was a no brainer for me coming from a sgs7e , i hated the fact i could not do nanddroids or flash custom roms, i love my v20.
Bootloader possibly unlocked
So I just called Sprint and reemed them on how there bootloader practices are illegal and that this is an open source phone. Not an Iphone. My device is paid off ect. They supposedly are fully unlocking it as we speak. In the mid of a six hour phase I guess. I was told not to reboot during six hours. On ZVD firmware btw. If this does happen to get fully unlocked including bootloader ect., can I finally root my phone? I really hope so. I am running out of options.
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So I just called Sprint and reemed them on how there bootloader practices are illegal and that this is an open source phone. Not an Iphone. My device is paid off ect. They supposedly are fully unlocking it as we speak. In the mid of a six hour phase I guess. I was told not to reboot during six hours. On ZVD firmware btw. If this does happen to get fully unlocked including bootloader ect., can I finally root my phone? I really hope so. I am running out of options.
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I wouldn't hold my breath, at most they may unlock the sim, the bootloader I doubt it
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Well at around 4/5pm est. I am going to check. When I reboot it should tell me if unlocked right? If its not, then I will call again. I specifically told them bootloader and reasked. She said yes and that I will able to do whatever I want to with it. My network was already unlocked as well before I even called.
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Well at around 4/5pm est. I am going to check. When I reboot it should tell me if unlocked right? If its not, then I will call again. I specifically told them bootloader and reasked. She said yes and that I will able to do whatever I want to with it. My network was already unlocked as well before I even called.
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Good luck, first time I've ever heard sprint voluntarily unlock a bootloader
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Well at around 4/5pm est. I am going to check. When I reboot it should tell me if unlocked right? If its not, then I will call again. I specifically told them bootloader and reasked. She said yes and that I will able to do whatever I want to with it. My network was already unlocked as well before I even called.
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Any news?
Any news?
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Any news?
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Sadly I did not notice any difference. I got an Android update message a few times. That happens daily though. I will call them tomorrow. Had a few unforseen events happen that strained original plans. Either way this is bull****. They should not be allowed to lock an open source down. I am trying to get this taken care of. Hard fighting corruption.
Mysticblaze347 said:
Sadly I did not notice any difference. I got an Android update message a few times. That happens daily though. I will call them tomorrow. Had a few unforseen events happen that strained original plans. Either way this is bull****. They should not be allowed to lock an open source down. I am trying to get this taken care of. Hard fighting corruption.
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Open source doesn't mean you have to have an unlocked bootloader. Open source just means you must be provided with a copy of the source code of the open source components (some parts are closed source), which LG has complied by allowing anyone access through this site.
Personally I'd be surprised if it's even technically feasible for them to unlock your bootloader.
Phoenix591 said:
Open source doesn't mean you have to have an unlocked bootloader. Open source just means you must be provided with a copy of the source code of the open source components (some parts are closed source), which LG has complied by allowing anyone access through this site.
Personally I'd be surprised if it's even technically feasible for them to unlock your bootloader.
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Ok...well anyway not being able to root is still garbage. Especially on a device that is paid off. I only pay for service.
Love also how - the variant is rootable and this one is not game. So should I be mad a Sprint or LG? Whos fault is it?Rooting is perfectly legal. Seems blocking it is just as legal in this case.
Mysticblaze347 said:
Ok...well anyway not being able to root is still garbage. Especially on a device that is paid off. I only pay for service.
Love also how - the variant is rootable and this one is not game. So should I be mad a Sprint or LG? Whos fault is it?Rooting is perfectly legal. Seems blocking it is just as legal in this case.
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You can blame Sprint, and Instead of spending so much time being angry and posting your frustration on here, why not just get another phone that you can root?
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cnjax said:
You can blame Sprint, and Instead of spending so much time being angry and posting your frustration on here, why not just get another phone that you can root?
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Because this has the flagships that I want. Except root. Cant even find a rootable one to buy unless I get a non sprint phone. I am also not posting out of anger, but for irritation of companies thinking that thay can do what ever and we have to take it.
Was wondering tho, if I am network unlocked, cant I take to a different carrier and their firmware would replace Sprints ZVD one (cdma I know) , and then be able to root via that phone/firmware method?
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Because this has the flagships that I want. Except root. Cant even find a rootable one to buy unless I get a non sprint phone. I am also not posting out of anger, but for irritation of companies thinking that thay can do what ever and we have to take it.
Was wondering tho, if I am network unlocked, cant I take to a different carrier and their firmware would replace Sprints ZVD one (cdma I know) , and then be able to root via that phone/firmware method?
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If it wasn't for antirollback (all other firmware, except the h918 which has a different key so no other variant can flash it, is antirollback 0) you could, but the way it is you'd brick if you forced it on there.
Ok then. Well thank you for info everyone. Im just going to be a lump on a log for awhile.
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Ok then. Well thank you for info everyone. Im just going to be a lump on a log for awhile.
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You should have gotten the Essential phone on one of their many deals ($140 with Sprint)($225 on Amazon)
Its really the only phone I found that replaced my AT&T v20 and I'm enjoying Android Pie allot (we got the Sept security update yesterday)
There is a way to go back, I made a thread detailing the method to restore with a stock aboot image.
pro_granade said:
There is a way to go back, I made a thread detailing the method to restore with a stock aboot image.
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clsA said:
You should have gotten the Essential phone on one of their many deals ($140 with Sprint)($225 on Amazon)
Its really the only phone I found that replaced my AT&T v20 and I'm enjoying Android Pie allot (we got the Sept security update yesterday)
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It does not have the dual cam, and removable battery like the v20. I have my reasons. Believe me . Only issue is Sprint not being able to root...supposedly. Pro_Granade kinda has my hopes up atm lol
Such sad news, I literally got my device today!
The problem for me is that even though I could unlock my device now, the pull of users and developers to this device is going to plummet to zero on xda , there won't be any (or very few) ROM's, adopters will avoid the device... It's a horrible move from huawei who have a sponsor partnership with xda?? Xda have said they're going to fight it but my guess is huawei may look at their wallet rather than their hearts and stick to their guns.
By all accounts it's "to provide a better service". ???
I have a cooling off period for another 13 days.
If things don't change in a week I'm sending this wonderful opportunity phone back.
Never again
https://www.xda-developers.com/huawei-stop-providing-bootloader-unlock-codes/
Edit: all that being said, I like this phone too much, even runs ppsspp and dolphin the same as the onelus 5 did, I've unlocked the bootloader, installed twrp and rooted and now it's running perfectly.
Going to give it a chance.
dladz said:
Such sad news, I literally got my device today!
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I have a cooling off period for another 13 days.
Going to give it a chance.
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In the same boat mate, received the phone on Wednesday, got the bootloader unlock code sitting in my email index waiting to be used....and now I see this.
In two minds about the whole thing, on one hand love the phone it seems pretty damn great to me, only want to root for 2 issues (not fault of phone, just personal preference) but on the other hand, lack of ability to unlock bootloader will kill the community here. Do I keep it, unlock and just roll with it, or do I send it back and get something else (Galaxy Note or S9+ probably, community there aint dead lol)?
Have to have a good think about it over the weekend I think.
Le_Petit_Lapin said:
In the same boat mate, received the phone on Wednesday, got the bootloader unlock code sitting in my email index waiting to be used....and now I see this.
In two minds about the whole thing, on one hand love the phone it seems pretty damn great to me, only want to root for 2 issues (not fault of phone, just personal preference) but on the other hand, lack of ability to unlock bootloader will kill the community here. Do I keep it, unlock and just roll with it, or do I send it back and get something else (Galaxy Note or S9+ probably, community there aint dead lol)?
Have to have a good think about it over the weekend I think.
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Avoid the galaxy unless you like baggage and more rules, if I was to buy another phone it would be the HTC 12, no doubt about it.
Personally I've used the unlock code twrp installed and I'm rooted.
Phones a beast, I personally think Huawei will decide against their decision, by all accounts HTC did the same and look what happened to them
Currently looking at debranding from the L09 to the L29 as updates are more timely. Either that or wait for some ROMs to drop.
I'm keeping it now, it's swayed me.
Although I'd I could get the HTC I'd do it in a heartbeat, epic development on XDA.
Le_Petit_Lapin said:
In the same boat mate, received the phone on Wednesday, got the bootloader unlock code sitting in my email index waiting to be used....and now I see this.
In two minds about the whole thing, on one hand love the phone it seems pretty damn great to me, only want to root for 2 issues (not fault of phone, just personal preference) but on the other hand, lack of ability to unlock bootloader will kill the community here. Do I keep it, unlock and just roll with it, or do I send it back and get something else (Galaxy Note or S9+ probably, community there aint dead lol)?
Have to have a good think about it over the weekend I think.
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Since the phone is treble enabled we can use GSI. So theres no "real" need to have an active development community dedicated for this phone only.
dladz said:
Avoid the galaxy unless you like baggage and more rules, if I was to buy another phone it would be the HTC 12, no doubt about it.
Personally I've used the unlock code twrp installed and I'm rooted.
Phones a beast, I personally think Huawei will decide against their decision, by all accounts HTC did the same and look what happened to them
Currently looking at debranding from the L09 to the L29 as updates are more timely. Either that or wait for some ROMs to drop.
I'm keeping it now, it's swayed me.
Although I'd I could get the HTC I'd do it in a heartbeat, epic development on XDA.
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You don't necessarily need to convert from L09 to L29 to get faster updates, you just need to change region from 782 to 432. The L09 & L29 firmwares are interchangeable and are released together but it's UK specific updates that are lagging behind.
Saying that, I don't think there's a way to convert to 432 without being converted to L29 in the process anyway lol
the unlock page is back, just used it... don't tgink will last for long... make sure to be logged with your huawei account
https://emui.huawei.com/en/plugin/unlock/index
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Personally I've used the unlock code twrp installed and I'm rooted.
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Which version of TWRP did you use? The official one or the non official one? Both have threads in these forums, but the official one seems to have more complaints and problems in its thread.
Thinking of getting unlock code... Does it end warranty? And how do I get product ID, that #*#*1357946*#*# thing did not work. Yes, did try right code, one i wrote here might not be remembered correctly?
Propulsion said:
Thinking of getting unlock code... Does it end warranty?
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When used yes.
Propulsion said:
And how do I get product ID, that #*#*1357946*#*# thing did not work. Yes, did try right code, one i wrote here might not be remembered correctly
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You just got the *'s and #'s the wrong way around, it should be:
*#*#1357946#*#*
kaiowas82 said:
the unlock page is back, just used it... don't tgink will last for long... make sure to be logged with your huawei account
https://emui.huawei.com/en/plugin/unlock/index
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I logged in first time tbh on the first day I got the phone lucky I guess.
Le_Petit_Lapin said:
Which version of TWRP did you use? The official one or the non official one? Both have threads in these forums, but the official one seems to have more complaints and problems in its thread.
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The Italian one, starts with a p but they should all be ok.
danifilth4king said:
You don't necessarily need to convert from L09 to L29 to get faster updates, you just need to change region from 782 to 432. The L09 & L29 firmwares are interchangeable and are released together but it's UK specific updates that are lagging behind.
Saying that, I don't think there's a way to convert to 432 without being converted to L29 in the process anyway lol
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Nah me neither, think it's L29 or nothing.
Le_Petit_Lapin said:
When used yes.
You just got the *'s and #'s the wrong way around, it should be:
*#*#1357946#*#*
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Like i said, when I tried to get product ID the code was certainly right. To that message i took it out of memory, and did not remember it right. Funny, i can get for example imei code with right "dialer code" but not that product code. How to proceed? Would like to get unlock code, to be on safe side if I some day (probably sooner than later) want to use it.
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Propulsion said:
Like i said, when I tried to get product ID the code was certainly right. To that message i took it out of memory, and did not remember it right. Funny, i can get for example imei code with right "dialer code" but not that product code. How to proceed? Would like to get unlock code, to be on safe side if I some day (probably sooner than later) want to use it.
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Got it to work, just needed to make phones original dialer default dialer... And, well, knowing me, I'm just moments away from unlocking bootloader and rooting
Le_Petit_Lapin said:
Which version of TWRP did you use? The official one or the non official one? Both have threads in these forums, but the official one seems to have more complaints and problems in its thread.
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I used the one packaged with the all in one tool in one of these threads, its not the official one.
This thread
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hu...l-one-driversunlocktwrpfactory-t3779416/page9
dladz said:
Such sad news, I literally got my device today!
The problem for me is that even though I could unlock my device now, the pull of users and developers to this device is going to plummet to zero on xda , there won't be any (or very few) ROM's, adopters will avoid the device... It's a horrible move from huawei who have a sponsor partnership with xda?? Xda have said they're going to fight it but my guess is huawei may look at their wallet rather than their hearts and stick to their guns.
By all accounts it's "to provide a better service". ???
I have a cooling off period for another 13 days.
If things don't change in a week I'm sending this wonderful opportunity phone back.
Never again
https://www.xda-developers.com/huawei-stop-providing-bootloader-unlock-codes/
Edit: all that being said, I like this phone too much, even runs ppsspp and dolphin the same as the onelus 5 did, I've unlocked the bootloader, installed twrp and rooted and now it's running perfectly.
Going to give it a chance.
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Keep hold of the bootloader unlock code you got as if they go ahead with removing the service, they're likely to release updates in the future that will relock unlocked bootloaders on install. You should be able to re-unlock with the same code but it's a pain as an update won't wipe data but then having to re-unlock will ?
danifilth4king said:
Keep hold of the bootloader unlock code you got as if they go ahead with removing the service, they're likely to release updates in the future that will relock unlocked bootloaders on install. You should be able to re-unlock with the same code but it's a pain as an update won't wipe data but then having to re-unlock will ?
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Yea I've got it pal, all good. Triple back up.
Is there any way to get the bootloader unlocked now, without unlock code of Huawei??
dante_07 said:
Is there any way to get the bootloader unlocked now, without unlock code of Huawei??
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There's another site that does them.
Can't recall the name.
Just ordered the P20 Pro today after I upgraded my partners one yesterday to the P20. Its looks a fantastic phone so I had to go one better and get the pro. I got the unlock code for hers and will request mine tomorrow. Is there any need to use the unlock code? I don't plan on hoping for a better ROM as the stock one looks pretty reasonable to me.
wivelden said:
Just ordered the P20 Pro today after I upgraded my partners one yesterday to the P20. Its looks a fantastic phone so I had to go one better and get the pro. I got the unlock code for hers and will request mine tomorrow. Is there any need to use the unlock code? I don't plan on hoping for a better ROM as the stock one looks pretty reasonable to me.
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It is but rooting etc has its benefits, you've only got to go on a few threads here to see that.
Plus who knows what the future holds plus treble is always an option
https://www.xda-developers.com/huawei-honor-request-bootloader-unlock-code/
This will be the death of Huawei.
dladz said:
https://www.xda-developers.com/huawei-honor-request-bootloader-unlock-code/
This will be the death of Huawei.
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Rooting never breathed life into any ailing phone manufacturer, and the tiny proportion of people who root phones will not kill anything.
Huawei will continue to flourish.
Jonathan-H said:
Rooting never breathed life into any ailing phone manufacturer, and the tiny proportion of people who root phones will not kill anything.
Huawei will continue to flourish.
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:good: Yep ok mate.
Jonathan-H said:
Rooting never breathed life into any ailing phone manufacturer, and the tiny proportion of people who root phones will not kill anything.
Huawei will continue to flourish.
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yup. some people may not LIKE that you can't root a phone, but the actual percentage of those that won't actually buy the phone for this reason is minuscule.
otherwise, the first time a phone manufacturer sees their sales actually explode after releasing unlooked bootloaders, they'd always unlock it, but that's simply not the case
Ok I think you're being quite short sighted here, allow me to explain a little.
People who root their phones, usually the same ones who mod and develop ROMs and love a tinker, generally speaking the techie in the family, the one who your family tends to turn to when they have an upgrade come around or need something fixing.
Those very same people are more than likely to recommend a phone which has the ability to root, bootloader unlock and modify than they are one which has a completely locked down eco system.
You can say what you like, you can say I'm full of it, but I've seen how people react to a company changing its principles in regards to bootloader unlocking, HTC did this once, they then reversed their decision after seeing an immediate decline in sales, not solely due to the device either, it was the people's influence which caused it, then after two not so great phones later, they were a struggling company, and make no mistake, HTC was a colossal company which was on the up and up, bare in mind they made a lot of what android is today.
Huawei are making the exact same mistake because they overlooked how important that 1% is and the influence that they have over the vast majority of other users who value their opinion and will commit to a purchase on their say so.
It doesn't matter if you believe me, it's just an observation I've witnessed when HTC made the same decision.
Sure they'll continue, they make other components as well as phones, in all fairness they could stop selling phones and still survive.
But for XDA, for development, for what we know today of Huawei devices? Lol If you think it's quiet here on the p20 pro forum, wait til you see the ghost town of a thread there will be for the p30 and pro, I doubt there will be a single ROM, no Dev would be dumb enough to buy it.
**** I am receiving my phone in 5 days...
Picked up a code just in case anyone I sell it to is interested. Probably won't use it myself.
Huawei is targeting the Apple clientele. They couldn‘t care less about bootloader unlocking. Look at their advertising, their USP is design, camera, beautiful visuals. They don‘t sell to the tech nerd who wants to flash different software.
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**** I am receiving my phone in 5 days...
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Damn.
You may still be able to do something , there was a guide on the above link posted by a user which can unlock the bootloader by all accounts.
This phone is quite a beast and there could and should be another way in the future.
Plus Huawei will probably reverse their decision, that's not confirmed by any means but I think they will.
Funky Huawei ( which is normally not what I'd recommend) will probably see a lot more action now that official unlocks are gone too.
Don't worry too much, if it's still possible someone will find out.
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Huawei is targeting the Apple clientele. They couldn‘t care less about bootloader unlocking. Look at their advertising, their USP is design, camera, beautiful visuals. They don‘t sell to the tech nerd who wants to flash different software.
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Please see the fifth post in this thread. That's all i have to say on that matter.
You're right in what you're saying, they however are wrong in what they're doing and they'll find that out the hard way.
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Picked up a code just in case anyone I sell it to is interested. Probably won't use it myself.
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That's cool :good:
Good thinking
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Picked up a code just in case anyone I sell it to is interested. Probably won't use it myself.
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It only works with your phone
LSHA1980 said:
It only works with your phone
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Sell the phone to, not the code :laugh:
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Sell the phone to, not the code :laugh:
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Got it
I'm shocked. I received my phone today and wanted to root it and now I read this.
Maybe you guys can help me understand a few things because I haven't tampered with any Android device since 2014.
- will I be fine with the standard pre-installed EMUI or am I missing some really cool and better custom OS when I can't unlock and root my device?
- I've used Xposed, AFWall+, TWRP and XPrivacy on my old phone - are there similar and equally safe tools for unrooted devices?
- How can I make backups without TWRP?
- are there any known workaround procedures known that would let me unlock the bootloader without that code from Huawei? Is it likely that there will be one?
Thanks
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I'm shocked. I received my phone today and wanted to root it and now I read this.
Maybe you guys can help me understand a few things because I haven't tampered with any Android device since 2014.
- will I be fine with the standard pre-installed EMUI or am I missing some really cool and better custom OS when I can't unlock and root my device?
- I've used Xposed, AFWall+, TWRP and XPrivacy on my old phone - are there similar and equally safe tools for unrooted devices?
- How can I make backups without TWRP?
- are there any known workaround procedures known that would let me unlock the bootloader without that code from Huawei? Is it likely that there will be one?
Thanks
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you can still get a code today
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you can still get a code today
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How? The link https://emui.huawei.com/en/unlock_detail is down
can't find https://www.emui.com/en/unlock_index either
EDIT: Tried everything. There are too many websites which seems unprofessional and half of them show certificate errors. Finally I wrote them a complaint about this via Mail and provided all the data like IMEI etc
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How? The link https://emui.huawei.com/en/unlock_detail is down
can't find https://www.emui.com/en/unlock_index either
EDIT: Tried everything. There are too many websites which seems unprofessional and half of them show certificate errors. Finally I wrote them a complaint about this via Mail and provided all the data like IMEI etc
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Are there any other options for getting an unlock code at this point? I was thinking about purchasing a P20 Pro but may not if I can't unlock the bootloader.
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Are there any other options for getting an unlock code at this point? I was thinking about purchasing a P20 Pro but may not if I can't unlock the bootloader.
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I wouldn't now personally
jcrompton said:
Are there any other options for getting an unlock code at this point? I was thinking about purchasing a P20 Pro but may not if I can't unlock the bootloader.
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Same question here. I have my Twilight P20 Pro lying here, unused since release in fact (so way past the return window) and meant to give it to my wife, but only with Root Tools (Adaway, YT Vanced etc.)
I missed the window since I was traveling and support won't help me.
I get it, my fault for not doing it in time but what now? I wouldn't mind paying for it, as the only other option appears to be selling the device at a huge loss (I paid full retail) and finding a different phone altogether.
Just heads up guys today is the last day to request bootloader unlock codes not sure why Huawei/honor have decided on this but even if don't intend to right away I would still get it before its to late , [emoji16]
https://emui.huawei.com/en/
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Just heads up guys today is the last day to request bootloader unlock codes not sure why Huawei/honor have decided on this but even if don't intend to right away I would still get it before its to late , [emoji16]
https://emui.huawei.com/en/
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So having that code and not using to root, keeps warranty intact right?
Yes it's worth doing now and putting it up if don't want to unlock right away but may in future ,
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Isn't huawei locking the bootloader like really bad for future rom life of this phone?
only a fraction of honor 10 users will ever get to install other roms on their phones... so who's going to develop a rom forna phone like that?
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Isn't huawei locking the bootloader like really bad for future rom life of this phone?
only a fraction of honor 10 users will ever get to install other roms on their phones... so who's going to develop a rom forna phone like that?
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Yes it's an odd move not sure on full story or reason behind this decision it's not handy at all , i read a while ago this may be happening luckly it popped up on a feed today and as I only got my honor 10 yesterday I quickly got my code just incase Inthe future I want to root and try a custom ROM , but again this decision may kill of development for new devices I came from a OnePlus 6 and they have the right idea in gifting 36 OnePlus 6 to Devs for development , I'm now contemplating if I made a good choice . Lol I just found 1+6 to big and bulky for work
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This is the info
https://www-xda--developers-com.cdn...uawei-stop-providing-bootloader-unlock-codes/
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Hey a quick one, does unlocking stop ota update? . FYI i had dilemma about it, ask customer care and as per them, you don't get ota.
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This is the info
https://www-xda--developers-com.cdn...uawei-stop-providing-bootloader-unlock-codes/
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At me it dosent work, i only get: If you have any questions about the unlock code application, please contact us. whatever i put in those boxes..
I chose Since emui 5.0 right? anyway i tried even with before emui 5.0 and it dosent work
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At me it dosent work, i only get: If you have any questions about the unlock code application, please contact us. whatever i put in those boxes..
I chose Since emui 5.0 right? anyway i tried even with before emui 5.0 and it dosent work
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Yes that's right since 5.0 just make sure info all correct and product ID etc I did mine this morning and got it first time should work , hopefully this won't be the case and they will change there minds on this silly idea they will loose a lot of sales I think in future surely that's not good business sense
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Yes that's right since 5.0 just make sure info all correct and product ID etc I did mine this morning and got it first time should work , hopefully this won't be the case and they will change there minds on this silly idea they will loose a lot of sales I think in future surely that's not good business sense
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Someone will find a method to generate the code or to unlock bootloader without the code, just wait
There is a way all ready some tool you can purchase for a fee but it's a right long winded way, I'm sure they will change there view once sales decline lol
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I N checked the info and still dosent work, same msg..
I wanted the code just in case, not to use it now, but i cant get it..
I was about to buy this phone or a Huawei p20... Not being able to root or flashing a custom recovery makes this a no go for me.....
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Do you guys it is still worth it to get the Honor 10?
Yep, why not, it will be a way
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I was about to buy this phone or a Huawei p20... Not being able to root or flashing a custom recovery makes this a no go for me.....
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Do you guys it is still worth it to get the Honor 10?
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I'm sure they will back track on this there are other ways of obtaining unlock code I heard if you just live chat them they will give it , yes honor 10 worth getting in my opinion or if have $ to burn p20 pro [emoji16]
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Was planning to ask for the unlock code, but....
"Unlocking the bootloader may result in unpredictable consequences for your device, including but not limited to those listed above. The user shall be held responsible in the event that the device malfunctions and cannot be recovered. Huawei will record your unlock request information; for software and hardware failures arising as a result of unlocking the bootloader, Huawei repair centers can provide repair services charged at the standard rate for repair work outside the scope of the warranty."
I'll prefer paying for an unlock app if I decide i need to one day, rather than losing my warranty for a code I'll probably never use.
If the hardware in your device starts malfunctioning - doesn't matter if 3rd party rom caused it, or if you even ever used a 3rd party rom...
chance is: huawei is going to put the blame on a 3rd party rom.
Wouldn't Huawei be better off if they kept offering the unlock codes? That way, if somebody screws up their device,
Huawei will know it's registered as an unlocked device and will not have to repair it for free
Guess they didn't think it through properly.
They stop the process of offering the codes because many people bricked their phone in the flashing/unlocking procedure and i think it were many complaints about this. So they think its a saftey measure.
I don't think requesting the code voids warranty I had a honor 9 lite that I applied for the code never actually used it had an issue later on were it would keep randomly re booting and switching off when used camera was replaced no issue under the 2 year warranty
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After they get their code and try roms and sh*t they brick their phone, not prior to that
Your warranty is voided after you use the code, its not like at Xioami, the bootloader will pe RELOCKED, not locked. So they can see that you used it.
I still cant get it, so i just stoped trying.
well the disclaimer is clear. when they "think" its caused by rooting (even if you never did) then you might have bo warranty because they can see who asked for the unlock code.
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like those ppl who have malfunctioning hardware in phone, a phone that absolutely never got wet,
send it to repair and receive the message that "their phone got wet, repair will cost 90% of original price and if they want phpne back unrepaired then they need to pay 50$ for inspection and shipping costs...
their word against yours