Hi All I have just purchased a new nexus 5 (gear live pre-ordered) in a curious attempt to have a go at android from my Iphone 5c.
I am tweaking the handset at the moment to give me some lost functionality from IOS. I have stumbled across a really painful problem that i can not find a solution to. I use a pair of bose wired earphones to listen to music and use as hands free in the car. On my iphone, I am used to to pushing the mic button and activating the voice dial from the locked screen, all good.
When i try doing this on my nexus, i get the "can not use OK Google until the phone is unlocked" message in my ear.
I have to have a passlock on the handset due to work security restrictions.
Does anyone have a work around for this? I am hoping my new gear live will keep the pass lock when in close proximity (A major flaw otherwise - unlocking your phone before you can see anything on your smartwatch!) in the interim though, putting a pass key in the phone every time i want to make a call whilst riving is pretty poor!
currently on stock 4.4.4. not rooted yet -
Thanks all
randomtechgeek said:
Hi All I have just purchased a new nexus 5 (gear live pre-ordered) in a curious attempt to have a go at android from my Iphone 5c.
I am tweaking the handset at the moment to give me some lost functionality from IOS. I have stumbled across a really painful problem that i can not find a solution to. I use a pair of bose wired earphones to listen to music and use as hands free in the car. On my iphone, I am used to to pushing the mic button and activating the voice dial from the locked screen, all good.
When i try doing this on my nexus, i get the "can not use OK Google until the phone is unlocked" message in my ear.
I have to have a passlock on the handset due to work security restrictions.
Does anyone have a work around for this? I am hoping my new gear live will keep the pass lock when in close proximity (A major flaw otherwise - unlocking your phone before you can see anything on your smartwatch!) in the interim though, putting a pass key in the phone every time i want to make a call whilst riving is pretty poor!
currently on stock 4.4.4. not rooted yet -
Thanks all
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I'll be honest and say that being able to make a call with the phone being pin locked would be a security risk. Now as for a workaround I can only think of one thing that would work but it requires some time to configure things correctly.
You could us ethe app tasker to automate this. You can set a profile for when you are in your car. When you are driving in the car (e.g. moving over 10 MPH) you can have tasker turn off your PIN Lock. Then when you get out of your car (eg not moving) it would reenable your PIN lock.
If that's too hard to configure (I can show you if you are interested in the above method) You can just set up a much simpler profile in tasker that whenever your BT headset is connected disable your PIN lock. THough this is less secure.
Those are the only options I can think of and honestly I would be surprised if anyone came up with a true solution to this
As per phonearena.com Mate 9 is starting to get update to Oreo
https://www.phonearena.com/news/Unlocked-Huawei-Mate-9-receiving-Android-8.0-Oreo-in-the-US_id102104
Wait is over
Android Central is reporting it too. Anyone get it?
I have checked mine several times and nothing yet
it's approved for update in Firmware Finder
Edit: nevermind, jumped the gun...only approved if you check without the imei.
As someone who has been on the beta test for this for the past 2 months, it's pretty disappointing that they're releasing this. It has issues that they haven't fixed. If .360 is the final version, I'll have to see if I can get rolled back to Nougat.
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As someone who has been on the beta test for this for the past 2 months, it's pretty disappointing that they're releasing this. It has issues that they haven't fixed. If .360 is the final version, I'll have to see if I can get rolled back to Nougat.
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What issues are you having?
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I stream Google Play Music via Bluetooth in my car. Until Oreo, when I turn off my car, or switch to another audio source, streaming from the phone is paused. Next time I start up the car, it resumes. Now, I have about a 50% chance of it resuming Google Play Music. It will randomly decide to instead use the built in music app to play something stored on the phone (one of the demo songs that came with the phone, or the one track I have saved on the SD card). I’m constantly having to go to Google Play Music & re-start whatever I was playing.
I’m also having unreliable visual notifications, particularly text messages (I use Textra). I do at least sometimes get the audio ding, but more often than not, no flashing light, and no badge on the shortcut. So if I’m not within earshot of the phone when I get a txt, I don’t know I received one (I can’t say for certain audio notifications always work, but I know at least sometimes I’ve heard the ding, but visually the phone doesn’t indicate it).
The above two issues are new since the Oreo update. Another issue I have that also existed in Nougat: the phone has difficulty managing multiple simultaneous Bluetooth connections. My car requires two connections: one for phone calls, and another to a 3rd party streaming adapter. If I have my Huawei Watch on/already connected to the phone when I get in the car, the two car connections won’t connect, at least not both of them. I have to toggle Bluetooth off/on on the phone to get all three connected at the same time. If I don’t have my watch on, there’s a better chance that both will connect, but at least one will. I didn’t seem to have these issues with my previous Note 3, but the Mate 9 seems to have a hard time reconnecting Bluetooth when there are multiple simultaneous connections involved. This issue is the one that caused me to join the beta, hoping to ensure it was fixed in the new software. Instead, it persists, and I gained a couple new ones.
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I stream Google Play Music via Bluetooth in my car. Until Oreo, when I turn off my car, or switch to another audio source, streaming from the phone is paused. Next time I start up the car, it resumes. Now, I have about a 50% chance of it resuming Google Play Music. It will randomly decide to instead use the built in music app to play something stored on the phone (one of the demo songs that came with the phone, or the one track I have saved on the SD card). I’m constantly having to go to Google Play Music & re-start whatever I was playing.
I’m also having unreliable visual notifications, particularly text messages (I use Textra). I do at least sometimes get the audio ding, but more often than not, no flashing light, and no badge on the shortcut. So if I’m not within earshot of the phone when I get a txt, I don’t know I received one (I can’t say for certain audio notifications always work, but I know at least sometimes I’ve heard the ding, but visually the phone doesn’t indicate it).
The above two issues are new since the Oreo update. Another issue I have that also existed in Nougat: the phone has difficulty managing multiple simultaneous Bluetooth connections. My car requires two connections: one for phone calls, and another to a 3rd party streaming adapter. If I have my Huawei Watch on/already connected to the phone when I get in the car, the two car connections won’t connect, at least not both of them. I have to toggle Bluetooth off/on on the phone to get all three connected at the same time. If I don’t have my watch on, there’s a better chance that both will connect, but at least one will. I didn’t seem to have these issues with my previous Note 3, but the Mate 9 seems to have a hard time reconnecting Bluetooth when there are multiple simultaneous connections involved. This issue is the one that caused me to join the beta, hoping to ensure it was fixed in the new software. Instead, it persists, and I gained a couple new ones.
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Same here with bluetooth inconsistencies when connected to my car. I have resynched several times and sometimes it helps for a short while and other times no improvement. Sometimes I can control songs and other times not. Sometimes it shows songs and other times it shows connecting. Sometimes it shows the correct name of song and other times it freezes on a song title that is long gone. Even when deleting and resynching my phone, an old song title is displayed and not the same as being played. Total bummer as I use bluetooth music every time I get into my car. On recent update (360) which appears to be the same one they are releasing as OTA.
hmmm, this must be a states model thing, my huawei mate 9 works perfectly on oreo...i dont use textra, use normal default...anyway is one of the reason i dont buy or use states systems on no phone...i always buy the international phones(orignal phone) the company put out...they better and receive the update in a timely manner...sorry, but state phones suck! i havent bought one in over at least 10 years....
Still waiting. To be honest though, it's not even Oreo I want, I just want the dang security updates. April 2017 is wayyy too old.
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I stream Google Play Music via Bluetooth in my car. Until Oreo, when I turn off my car, or switch to another audio source, streaming from the phone is paused. Next time I start up the car, it resumes. Now, I have about a 50% chance of it resuming Google Play Music. It will randomly decide to instead use the built in music app to play something stored on the phone (one of the demo songs that came with the phone, or the one track I have saved on the SD card). I’m constantly having to go to Google Play Music & re-start whatever I was playing.
I’m also having unreliable visual notifications, particularly text messages (I use Textra). I do at least sometimes get the audio ding, but more often than not, no flashing light, and no badge on the shortcut. So if I’m not within earshot of the phone when I get a txt, I don’t know I received one (I can’t say for certain audio notifications always work, but I know at least sometimes I’ve heard the ding, but visually the phone doesn’t indicate it).
The above two issues are new since the Oreo update. Another issue I have that also existed in Nougat: the phone has difficulty managing multiple simultaneous Bluetooth connections. My car requires two connections: one for phone calls, and another to a 3rd party streaming adapter. If I have my Huawei Watch on/already connected to the phone when I get in the car, the two car connections won’t connect, at least not both of them. I have to toggle Bluetooth off/on on the phone to get all three connected at the same time. If I don’t have my watch on, there’s a better chance that both will connect, but at least one will. I didn’t seem to have these issues with my previous Note 3, but the Mate 9 seems to have a hard time reconnecting Bluetooth when there are multiple simultaneous connections involved. This issue is the one that caused me to join the beta, hoping to ensure it was fixed in the new software. Instead, it persists, and I gained a couple new ones.
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I've noticed similar Bluetooth problems. I stream in my car pretty often and through headphones at work, and at times I won't be able to skip songs via the receiver/headset. Since a reboot always fixes it, I've been doing preemptive reboots as I walk to my car in the morning to circumvent the issue.
I've had zero issues with Textra. If anything, it's working even better now than it did before - all of my MMS sending issues are gone. Apparently, though, this was less of a Huawei problem and more of a Nougat problem.
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hmmm, this must be a states model thing, my huawei mate 9 works perfectly on oreo...i dont use textra, use normal default...anyway is one of the reason i dont buy or use states systems on no phone...i always buy the international phones(orignal phone) the company put out...they better and receive the update in a timely manner...sorry, but state phones suck! i havent bought one in over at least 10 years....
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Which region did you rebrand to? I was on 432 running a custom ROM for a while, but went back to 567 thinking that would solve my MMS sending issues. I want to rebrand, but I've heard that rebranded phones don't receive OTA updates because the IMEI doesn't match the region.
Thanks
I did not rebrand any thing, as I stated I don't buy state side phones, I buy original unlock phones directly from company (Amazon).. I have international version, MHA-L29C185... Now on oreo from Ota... Yea you loose Ota on those rebranding systems most of those require to unlock bootloader and twrp... That alter the system... If you want a good Huawei phone, buy international or China version off Amazon, yes both work in the states.
Just got my ota update today
Can someone who got Ota update check to see if any of the files on the FF app are giving an imei approval?
Mine still isn't and I didn't get Ota yet, so if it does for you and u got the Ota it may shed some light on whether the server shown on FF is directly linked to Ota files...
I just got the OTA update...downloading it now
kullum79 said:
I just got the OTA update...downloading it now
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Where are you located??
shae23 said:
Where are you located??
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I am in Chicago Central Standard Time... playing with the camera as we speak....
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I am in Chicago Central Standard Time... playing with the camera as we speak....
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Lool same location, no update, man Huawei is funny, oh well, guess it'll get here in its own time
It doesn't matter about the area it's being done in Bach's by imei .
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U can download it in ff but when it finishes download and install it won't verify because the it's has the imei in the download bricked one phone so I will wait for the ota I called huwaei to c about unbricking and the told me the date and time of the forced update voided the warranty
I got my Oreo update just a few hours ago, bought off Amazon, in KY, on T-Mobile
Oreo Update
I got my OTA update late yesterday. Haven't had it long enough to see if the battery life is better.
I just bought my first ever Android phone, Acer Liquid Zest Plus.
It's not quite working in the limited ways I was hoping it to work.
First, I drive a Honda, which has handsfreelink system for connecting the phone to the car. The phone connects to handsfreelink ok, but then shows some weird behavior, in that when using the car's controls to place a call through handsfreelink, handsfreelink immediately apparently hangs up the call (i.e. the car's display shows that it hung up the call). However, this does not actually hang up the call on the phone itself, as the call gets placed nonetheless and when someone picks up on the other side, I can have a conversation through the car's audio system. Seems to almost work, but the weird behavior just described means that I can't hang up a call without pulling the phone out of my pocket and hanging it up from the phone (as opposed to hanging up using the car's controls) while driving, which takes a lot away from the point of it all.
What could be the issue with this? Note that I had a Blackberry Passport before, which used to work all as intended with handsfreelink, and my family member's iPhone 7 Plus also works as intended with handsfreelink. Is it that my Acer Liquid Zest Plus does not have the necessary bluetooth profile/stack to works with Honda's handsfreelink? Is it that handsfreelink proprietary to Honda and uses something unique, as opposed to being a generic bluetooth device of the kind? Is a bluetooth device link this, used by other auto manufacturers, feature the same generic bluetooth thing, or is this something only Holda can possibly answer for me?
Could updating the phone solve this issue? If so, how? I go into Settings -> About phone -> System updates and it tells me that my device is up to date (I did not update it since pulling it out of the box). I notice that it's on Android 6.0 , and a quick Google search showed some discussions that it is highly unlikely that the phone will get newer Android update. The "Android security patch level" shown in "About phone" says December 5, 2016. That's a long time without a security patch. Should I, and is it possible to, update the phone?
I've heard of rooting an Android device and installing custom Roms before. Where can I find a guide for my device and the custom Rom files? I am hoping this might solve my issue with handsfreelink.
I know I am all around the place with my questions, but essentially, the issue I am having is that bluetooth connection to my car's audio system does not work as expected, and I am wondering how I might fix it. I am wondering if an OS update (either official version by manufacturer or a widely-used custom Rom) might solve this issue, or simply adding an extra bluetooth profile to the phone.
A solution would be awesome, but I'd be asking too much if I was hoping for that. Instead, if anyone can just provide me some pointers in terms of how to do research on what I should be doing to solve this, or clarify some concepts (to the extent you can tell I got it wrong from reading this post) for me, it would be really appreciated.
I've already been to Honda's handsfreelink website and Acer's support page for this product and there's nothing helpful there.
Thank you very much.
ACER
monotious said:
I just bought my first ever Android phone, Acer Liquid Zest Plus.
It's not quite working in the limited ways I was hoping it to work.
First, I drive a Honda, which has handsfreelink system for connecting the phone to the car. The phone connects to handsfreelink ok, but then shows some weird behavior, in that when using the car's controls to place a call through handsfreelink, handsfreelink immediately apparently hangs up the call (i.e. the car's display shows that it hung up the call). However, this does not actually hang up the call on the phone itself, as the call gets placed nonetheless and when someone picks up on the other side, I can have a conversation through the car's audio system. Seems to almost work, but the weird behavior just described means that I can't hang up a call without pulling the phone out of my pocket and hanging it up from the phone (as opposed to hanging up using the car's controls) while driving, which takes a lot away from the point of it all.
What could be the issue with this? Note that I had a Blackberry Passport before, which used to work all as intended with handsfreelink, and my family member's iPhone 7 Plus also works as intended with handsfreelink. Is it that my Acer Liquid Zest Plus does not have the necessary bluetooth profile/stack to works with Honda's handsfreelink? Is it that handsfreelink proprietary to Honda and uses something unique, as opposed to being a generic bluetooth device of the kind? Is a bluetooth device link this, used by other auto manufacturers, feature the same generic bluetooth thing, or is this something only Holda can possibly answer for me?
Could updating the phone solve this issue? If so, how? I go into Settings -> About phone -> System updates and it tells me that my device is up to date (I did not update it since pulling it out of the box). I notice that it's on Android 6.0 , and a quick Google search showed some discussions that it is highly unlikely that the phone will get newer Android update. The "Android security patch level" shown in "About phone" says December 5, 2016. That's a long time without a security patch. Should I, and is it possible to, update the phone?
I've heard of rooting an Android device and installing custom Roms before. Where can I find a guide for my device and the custom Rom files? I am hoping this might solve my issue with handsfreelink.
I know I am all around the place with my questions, but essentially, the issue I am having is that bluetooth connection to my car's audio system does not work as expected, and I am wondering how I might fix it. I am wondering if an OS update (either official version by manufacturer or a widely-used custom Rom) might solve this issue, or simply adding an extra bluetooth profile to the phone.
A solution would be awesome, but I'd be asking too much if I was hoping for that. Instead, if anyone can just provide me some pointers in terms of how to do research on what I should be doing to solve this, or clarify some concepts (to the extent you can tell I got it wrong from reading this post) for me, it would be really appreciated.
I've already been to Honda's handsfreelink website and Acer's support page for this product and there's nothing helpful there.
Thank you very much.
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Acer is just the brand and few software smartphonne.they just order big amount of phones and sell them. the phone shows as Shanghai Huaqin Telecom Technology Co.,Ltd),have seen this on my old --vodaphonne-.The only emergenncy update from january 05 2018 and this is as far you go with ACER. YOU will never get any update .The name LIQUID is there PR name of there LAUNCHER,that´s all.ROOTING??? no point,waste of time no one will till today do it. Have the same phone and feel that I did a mistake and lost money.ACER stopped to sell smartphones. If you want to modiffy the phone the LAWNCHAIR launcher is good ,aswell others. But keep in mind that will be always android 6 and no security updates
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Acer is just the brand and few software smartphonne.they just order big amount of phones and sell them. the phone shows as Shanghai Huaqin Telecom Technology Co.,Ltd),have seen this on my old --vodaphonne-.The only emergenncy update from january 05 2018 and this is as far you go with ACER. YOU will never get any update .The name LIQUID is there PR name of there LAUNCHER,that´s all.ROOTING??? no point,waste of time no one will till today do it. Have the same phone and feel that I did a mistake and lost money.ACER stopped to sell smartphones. If you want to modiffy the phone the LAWNCHAIR launcher is good ,aswell others. But keep in mind that will be always android 6 and no security updates
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your bluetooth -you have to install a app from third party and then configure the rest in the app and in setting device.Importend timer schould be always set as on in bluetooth .Standard is few minutes.good luck
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your bluetooth -you have to install a app from third party and then configure the rest in the app and in setting device.Importend timer schould be always set as on in bluetooth .Standard is few minutes.good luck
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To keep all your apps uptodate I use from FDROID app the YALP STORE ,there you can in settings update your system apps,as I sad this is the way as far you go with ACER. Hope it helps
hi i love my op6 but there is one annoying thing Bluetooth auto connect ..my phone is connected to my tic watch pro with no problems but when i get in my car that has a alpine halo 9 i have to connect it manually ,also my company car is continually searching for my phone..i have never had this problem with any of the phones i have had [i have had every flagship phone that has come out .IOS or android.] any body shed some light on this for me thanks
nobody got the same problem then
Relax, someone will come eventually... And no, I don't have.
westentertainer said:
hi i love my op6 but there is one annoying thing Bluetooth auto connect ..my phone is connected to my tic watch pro with no problems but when i get in my car that has a alpine halo 9 i have to connect it manually ,also my company car is continually searching for my phone..i have never had this problem with any of the phones i have had [i have had every flagship phone that has come out .IOS or android.] any body shed some light on this for me thanks
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Everyone who has a smart watch that can make BT phone calls has this problem.
The car kit connects as "Connected (no phone)."
This bug was introduced by Google with Pixel XL after 7.0.2 update, and they never fixed it.
Individual manufacturers fix this in their own Android skins except Google, Xaiomi and now Oneplus.
BTW, the bug was not present in 5.1.5. OOS, and was introduced in 5.1.6 or 5.1.7 (I skipped the 5.1.6 update.) So, it's likely that OP simply and lazily copied Google code at that point.
If you want to get rid of this annoyance, one possible way is to disable Phone Audio option in the watch BT properties on the phone.
Of course, you could also flash 5.1.5.
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Everyone who has a smart watch that can make BT phone calls has this problem.
The car kit connects as "Connected (no phone)."
This bug was introduced by Google with Pixel XL after 7.0.2 update, and they never fixed it.
Individual manufacturers fix this in their own Android skins except Google, Xaiomi and now Oneplus.
BTW, the bug was not present in 5.1.5. OOS, and was introduced in 5.1.6 or 5.1.7 (I skipped the 5.1.6 update.) So, it's likely that OP simply and lazily copied Google code at that point.
If you want to get rid of this annoyance, one possible way is to disable Phone Audio option in the watch BT properties on the phone.
Of course, you could also flash 5.1.5.
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Thank you. What would I loose disabling phone audio on watch ?
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Thank you. What would I loose disabling phone audio on watch ?
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Then you couldn't talk and listen to phone calls on the watch. You could initiate and receive the phone calls on the watch, but the audio would automatically go to the phone instead.
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Then you couldn't talk and listen to phone calls on the watch. You could initiate and receive the phone calls on the watch, but the audio would automatically go to the phone instead.
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I recently upgraded from my trusty Note 8 and am finding the new Android version to be completely underwhelming (a common theme, I'm finding). I can't really think of any actual improvements to my daily user experience and two things have gotten worse enough that I have been researching solutions to them to no avail. The first is the main topic of this thread. My older Bluetooth car stereo (not Android auto, but apparently that is equally as broken) sends an "autoplay on connect" request. No individual app autoplay setting seems to matter, it is a system problem. On the Note 8 this was also the case, however it would only actually play if the app was open (present in the task switch windows). This was occasionally annoying but now it is much much worse. What happens now on the S22U is that apps I have long since closed will just appear to open zombielike and autoplay. Even when I am in the middle of opening a music app, e.g. a podcast that I was listening to yesterday will just start playing because it was the last used app.
I can't believe that it's 2022 and Android doesn't just have this fixed yet it has been underdeveloped for YEARS now. Why can't it just be a system wide setting? And why on earth does it insist on playing audio even if it was PAUSED before Bluetooth is disconnected? I have a feeling there is nothing I can do about this, but I wanted to vent.
I mentioned there was a second most annoying issue with the new version of Android. This is that the "double tap to switch" to previous app window is inexplicably slower than it used to be, to the point you might as well not use it. I used to do that constantly and it was very effective. Why on earth they removed this feature is beyond me.
If anyone has a current solution to either of these problems please lmk.
I've also have this issue... Both with the Pixel 6 Pro and same thing when I switched to the S22 Ultra. I'm inclined to think it's an issue specific with Android 12. On my Pixel 5 (using Android 11), autoplay when connecting to bluetooth worked every time. Even with having setup a Bixby routine to autoplay upon connecting to a specific bluetooth device, it does not always work... It's frustrating.