Whats the point of Smart Notifications with Face Unlock? - Huawei Mate 9 Questions & Answers

I like the idea of the new Smart Notifications feature that prevent viewing of notifications on the lock screen unless your face recognized. However, whats the point if the phone unlocks immediately anyway? Is there a way to only use facial recognition for Smart Notifications only and not unlock?

tboooe said:
I like the idea of the new Smart Notifications feature that prevent viewing of notifications on the lock screen unless your face recognized. However, whats the point if the phone unlocks immediately anyway? Is there a way to only use facial recognition for Smart Notifications only and not unlock?
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The way that worked for me is going under Face Unlock settings and changing "Direct Unlock" to "Swipe to Unlock". Now the phone reveals the "contents hidden" notifications without unlocking.
Hope that helps!

LOL, when I got the update, I tried to register the face unlock. The only way I could get it to work, even without the reflections, is to take my eyeglasses off. Since I'm blind as a bat without them, I turned that "feature" off. I wouldn't use it anyway, I prefer the fingerprint sensor.

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replace swipe unlock with unlock pattern?

hey guys,
any of you found an app to replace the swipe unlock for the unlock pattern, rather than having both?
not urgent as this is the best phone I've ever had, but would be a nice touch.
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not possible buddy sorry
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not possible buddy sorry
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You're right... but it's such a shame don't you think... really no need for the swipe, if you have the pattern....
I thought that was the case...
May look into how hard it will be to create an app to do it
The swipe unlock can be replaced with iphone/hero/donut/eclair style unlocking using the lockbot app. So I think an app should be able to solve this (However I'm not capable of making suck apps).
there is a free app called "No Lock" which simply disables the lock screen apparently. If you have the pattern lock underneath this then i guess you would just get that.
i haven't tried this, but just came across it by accident and it reminded me of this thread
Thanks for that, but no luck
It disables both the lock and the unlock screens (if that makes sense)
It is quite handy if you are at home and have the phone on a table and having a text conversation where you keep turning the screen on and off, but not quite what I wanted
I wonder if this is something that could be built on top of to give us what we want, I will email the Dev of this app and see what they say about it.
I will update when I know more
Right then guys, I have had a response from BoD
I sent them this:
Good afternoon,
I have downloaded the no lock app for android. It is great app, however, there are quite a few users of android who would like to see an app that would remove the lock screen but keep the pattern unlock screen or pin screen etc. Im hoping you are open to suggestions, and as you have created the app to remove the lock screens completely (which is pretty much halfway there), I was wondering if you were thinking of creating an app capable of this?
If you are and would like beta testers, I'm sure i could get a few volenteers together to do so.
Thanks,
To which they responded (very quickly too):
Hi!
Unfortunately there is no way (that I know of) to do that currently.
I hope you'll enjoy the app anyway.
Have a nice day,
So.... It looks like they are not aware of how this can be done, IF it can be done, which is a shame.
Thanks sungrad for pointing the app out though
no probs sorry it wasn't much use
it exists in the security settings in the phone (pattern lock ) just enable it
hoss_n2 said:
it exists in the security settings in the phone (pattern lock ) just enable it
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I have the pattern unlock enabled.
The problem is that to unlock my phone now I have the swipe (with the triangle and the curve) and the pattern unlock. I want the pattern unlock to replace the swipe unlock, rather than be requested as well as the swipe unlock.
It's only a minor issue I have, but it does get annoying when you are using it a lot (text conversation etc)
thefunkaygibbon said:
I have the pattern unlock enabled.
The problem is that to unlock my phone now I have the swipe (with the triangle and the curve) and the pattern unlock. I want the pattern unlock to replace the swipe unlock, rather than be requested as well as the swipe unlock.
It's only a minor issue I have, but it does get annoying when you are using it a lot (text conversation etc)
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it is really annoying but i have an idea the application mananger if we could know its name we could deactivate it like what they do with htc devices they deactivated htc sense
nobody has a solution for that?
Not exactly what you're after but there are widgets that toggle the unlock pattern off/on. You could toggle the unlock pattern off when texting so you only have to do the swipe. SwitchPro Widget has this feature but I haven't tested it with X10.
EDIT: Found this. It may be what you're after http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.brandongoodman.smartlock
Bump? I just wonder if anyone found a solution to this? I would really want what the OP states
just wanted to add... be careful with the "pattern lock" ... it literally disables your phone after 5 wrong pattern tries. I nearly did a system wipe just to unlock it.. Luckily for me it accepted my email account with "null" for password to re-enable it
I had that no lock app and it looked nice and handy but it messed with the pattern and slide default unlock when I went to uninstall, all I wanted was the pattern but no matter what way I set it,the swipe unlock would always be there, after loads of reboots and setting/unsetting a lock pattern it still did`nt work, this is after I uninstalled, after I dont know how many reboots even when I had the pattern enabled the swipe would come up first then the pattern, sometime only the swipe, it worked itself out, so be cautious of it....

[Q] Disable quick settings in the Lock Screen/Android 5.0

I've noticed that Android 5.0 allows to change many system settings (enable/disable WiFi/BlueTooth/Autorotate/etc) on its Lock Screen without entering any password.
I hate this liberty.
Does anyone have any idea how to disable this feature?
I cannot find anything in settings.
ApTeM said:
I've noticed that Android 5.0 allows to change many system settings (enable/disable WiFi/BlueTooth/Autorotate/etc) on its Lock Screen without entering any password.
I hate this liberty.
Does anyone have any idea how to disable this feature?
I cannot find anything in settings.
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I too cannot believe this was left as a feature... I was hoping that would be fixed in the final version.
Bump.
This is actually a security issue.
ApTeM said:
Bump.
This is actually a security issue.
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I agree but there's nothing in android. 3rd party lock screen is the only way.
a fix for this would be good, as anyone can just pick up your phone and change any of the quick settings without unlocking it.
So you would not be able to track the phone if it got nicked and someone just stuck it in airplane mode!
cluster78 said:
a fix for this would be good, as anyone can just pick up your phone and change any of the quick settings without unlocking it.
So you would not be able to track the phone if it got nicked and someone just stuck it in airplane mode!
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does it matter if airplane mode is in quick settings or the main setting? if they want to steal your phone and put it into airplane mode, they will do it regardless if its in quick settings or the main settings. its stuff that you yourself use often that will appear in quick settings. i personally think its a great feature.
simms22 said:
does it matter if airplane mode is in quick settings or the main setting? if they want to steal your phone and put it into airplane mode, they will do it regardless if its in quick settings or the main settings. its stuff that you yourself use often that will appear in quick settings. i personally think its a great feature.
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But they should not be able to do it while the phone is locked. At very least we should have the option of what should be accessible without unlocking the phone.
cluster78 said:
But they should not be able to do it while the phone is locked. At very least we should have the option of what should be accessible without unlocking the phone.
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even if they were not in the quick settings, you can still pull down the notification bar while in the lockscreen, and go into the main settings. so, everything there is available to any thief.
simms22 said:
even if they were not in the quick settings, you can still pull down the notification bar while in the lockscreen, and go into the main settings. so, everything there is available to any thief.
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If i do that it prompts to unlock the phone
Heck, I'm not even worried about the security situation with this, I just want to disable it because I think it is extremely poorly executed!
It offers nothing that power toggles doesn't, and is not even configurable for what options are present. I never use auto-rotate, cast screen, invert colors, etc, and yet, those options are available instantly!
cluster78 said:
a fix for this would be good, as anyone can just pick up your phone and change any of the quick settings without unlocking it.
So you would not be able to track the phone if it got nicked and someone just stuck it in airplane mode!
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They can also just remove the sim card or turn it off.
What I am looking for, is for the only possible thing you can do, while the phone is locked, is enter the password. Is there a way to set that up? Not be able to toggle any settings at all or remove the quick settings(I am ok with the emergency calling and camera widget, since you can't access the pictures on the phone until entering the password). I know they could still remove the sim or power off the phone but at least it might buy some more time if your phone gets stolen for you to track it or snap a pic of the thief. It would be nice if you could also disable the power menu and volume buttons while on the lock screen.
For now, until other solution is found or developed, you can go to notification settings and in 'When device is locked' change the setting to 'Hide sensitive notification content'. This disables access to quick settings from the lock screen but also hides titles of notifications, so you will see the notifications for emails, texts etc., but their content will be hidden.
This doesn't work. Well, if you have root and xposed you can install "Advanced Power Menu" to control the power menu on lockscreen etc and with GravityBox you can control the items on the quick settings. But I still couldn't figure out a way to totally disable it on the lockscreen.
As I remember the "X posed" Module "Notification Mod" could do exactly this. Problem is: It seems that development is discontinued and the stable ver1.2 doesn't (on my lollipop custom rom) work on 5.x
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/mod-notification-mod-t2501926/page23#post62958859
I am seeing this in my new Samsung S7 edge... with finger print and password lock.... it is not there on S5 with finger print and password lock... its a silly feature... why would they turn it on ? My son just put my phone in airplane mode accidentaly.... and I kept wondering why no messages and calls for the whole weekend.... hate to think what it would be like if it happened to someone who was say, on a on-call emergency personnel or something like that.... no one would be able to reach out to them.... I guess now have to keep checking my phone every hour.... hahahaha... or maybe go back to using my S5.. if someone has a solution to this pls share... appreciate it.
No way to disable access to quiick settings on lock screen on unrooted Android M....
Try the Market anyway,
One solution for me on Android 6.01 was to disable WiFi, Bluetooth, Airplane Mode, Mobile Data from Quick Settings using Systen UI Tuner in Settings then downloaded Settings Extended app at the Market and moved all mentioned in SE's Notification Shortcut. Don't forget to enable "HIDE LOCK SCREEN NOTIFICATION" in Preferences which is the objective of all this anyway. So don't forget to click this.
You can even disable everything in Quick Settings and instead put them all in SE Notification as Shortcuts. What's great about SE is that its Notification gets the icon color/shade/background color/color when toggled etc. perfectly in Android 6. Exactly the same. It looks like its really part of the Notification Screen except that there's that horizontal gap that separates the notifications and makes the screen fiddle faddle.
Try it anyway. It might be your only hope against lock screen vulnerability in unrooted Android 6.0 phones.
m1969 said:
I am seeing this in my new Samsung S7 edge... with finger print and password lock.... it is not there on S5 with finger print and password lock... its a silly feature... why would they turn it on ? My son just put my phone in airplane mode accidentaly.... and I kept wondering why no messages and calls for the whole weekend.... hate to think what it would be like if it happened to someone who was say, on a on-call emergency personnel or something like that.... no one would be able to reach out to them.... I guess now have to keep checking my phone every hour.... hahahaha... or maybe go back to using my S5.. if someone has a solution to this pls share... appreciate it.
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I have the same problem with my S7. Its weird that you cant change the wifi or bluetooth without unlocking the phone but when you select mobile data or airplane mode you can turn that off from the lockscreen so when your phone gets stolen, the thief can so easy turn that off that there is no way to trace your phone. Why do they even call this a smart phone while its so dumb?
ApTeM said:
I've noticed that Android 5.0 allows to change many system settings (enable/disable WiFi/BlueTooth/Autorotate/etc) on its Lock Screen without entering any password.
I hate this liberty.
Does anyone have any idea how to disable this feature?
I cannot find anything in settings.
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I must apologise first, I’m not a nerdy-head about android, but I was thinking about my new phone (upgraded to A7) and your question is one that I sought out for answers.
In Nougat, I logged in as Guest and used a pin for the user so that a ‘guest’ can’t access the Guest account without my permission.
Then comes you’re question.
You can remove all the worrisome quick start icons from your quick settings (probably leave flashlight). Then use a 3rd party app (Notification Toggle is mine) which isn’t available to a user from a protected login.
As I’ve never had a lollypop viable phone I’m afraid another user might need to help you with a more detailed method for A5.
Hope it helps somewhat. As an old 8080 machine code programmer, it was always about solving problems and then working the bugs out. I'm not even sure how to post on these - socially thingy’s.
This issue it's still there in Nougat, so before it is passed on to Android O, we have to POPULARIZE this issue so they(Android developers) know how big of a pain in the ass it is. I'm posting the complaints to every forum, magazine, fan page, etc. When it's on the social media, they have to do something. This issue has survived because people don't want their friends to know about it, coz it's partly embarrassing...

Easy way to disable smart lock?

Is they're a shortcut or something I can place on my home screen to disable smart lock? Normally I want it unlocked with my smart watch, but when I'm at work I leave my phone on the desk when I go help patients. But I don't want my nosy co workers to go through it. Do I want the pattern lock to always be on at work. Any thought? Did I miss anything in tasker?
No answers in 24 hours probably means that people (like me...) don't understand the question. I don't use Smart Lock myself, since I prefer to have total control of my device, but surely the entire point of it that if you walk away from it out of Bluetooth range then it locks itself? So your co-workers can't go through it (and what sort of people do you work with anyway...?)
Am I misunderstanding? Have you tried leaving your Bluetooth watch far away to see if the phone can be opened without the Bluetooth connection or password?
No it works correctly I'd i walk far away. But I work at a hospital and a patients room is sometimes is very close, so it will still be unlocked if I leave it at the nurses station. I've never seen anyone try to go through my, phone, but I'm paranoid though lol. I just need to find an app or maybe secure settings app to disable smart lock with a shortcut on the home screen
You can tap the lock on the bottom of the lock screen to lock the screen despite smartlock being on.
But then I have to do it every time I unlock my phone. The power button doesn't lock it
Just for clarification this is what I'm looking to toggle on and off. Can't find it in tasker or anything, so for now I'm just used any cut to take me to security settings.

Always On Display with Notifications Set-up

In case anyone is wondering the best combination of settings I've found is:
Face unlock - Slide to unlock
Smart lock screen notifications - On
Wake up device - On
Now go to Notification management, Batch management, hit the 3 dots:
Hide content notification - On
Now enjoy notifications whenever you pick up your screen. Swipe up to unlock or swipe notifications away. If anyone else picks up your phone, they can see notifications but not content.
Hope you find this useful.
I don't recommend using AOD ... as of current firmware, position of everything is totally static. Could be susceptible to burn in.
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mudnightoil said:
I don't recommend using AOD ... as of current firmware, position of everything is totally static. Could be susceptible to burn in.
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OMG, thank you very much dude.
I go to turn off now !!
That can't be right? I am sure I remember seeing mine move?
OK after placing a ruler on the text I can confirm the text does move. It moves down a few pixels every minute jump until about half way down the screen, and then back up again every few minutes.
+1, it does move just like Samsung AOD
I like your setup! I had auto face unlock before but it's actually useful to be able to see the lock screen a lot of the time (like a 'whats new' screen).
I find that whatever lock screen notification access setting I use, notification content is restricted on the lock screen until I show my face. Is this a known bug? Or am I doing something wrong? At the moment I can't even, for example, let my friend skip a track on Spotify from my lock screen.
Go to Notification management, Batch management, hit the 3 dots:
Display all notifications
Does this help?
Kruzkal said:
That can't be right? I am sure I remember seeing mine move?
OK after placing a ruler on the text I can confirm the text does move. It moves down a few pixels every minute jump until about half way down the screen, and then back up again every few minutes.
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You're indeed correct.
It moved so slightly that I didn't notice.
@Kruzkal Thanks for posting about this, very useful indeed.
You're welcome.
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You're welcome.
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lobr1 said:
I like your setup! I had auto face unlock before but it's actually useful to be able to see the lock screen a lot of the time (like a 'whats new' screen).
I find that whatever lock screen notification access setting I use, notification content is restricted on the lock screen until I show my face. Is this a known bug? Or am I doing something wrong? At the moment I can't even, for example, let my friend skip a track on Spotify from my lock screen.
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I'm facing this problem too, i have all APPs and even notification settings to show content on lockscreen but they don't show up. What's the trick in here??!! I'm wasted of going around on this 1000000 (sub)menus for the solution but nothing, it doesn't show the content on lockscreen.
Is this related to face unlock? Or is it something else? It's my first Huawei phone, i'm still trying to figure out everything to make this beast run as i want.
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I'm facing this problem too, i have all APPs and even notification settings to show content on lockscreen but they don't show up. What's the trick in here??!! I'm wasted of going around on this 1000000 (sub)menus for the solution but nothing, it doesn't show the content on lockscreen.
Is this related to face unlock? Or is it something else? It's my first Huawei phone, i'm still trying to figure out everything to make this beast run as i want.
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For me:
Settings -> security & privacy -> face unlock -> "smart lock screen notifications" set to OFF. Else enabling face unlock breaks notifications.
On a related note, I've also disabled Huawei's power optimisation nonsense with the batch mode. Oreo does a good job of managing background stuff by itself and this nonsense just breaks everything.
i have the same problem as above....ive tried everything....very strange!
My smart lock screen notifications is set of off btw
No app notifications are showing on lock screen
didi_ghost said:
I'm facing this problem too, i have all APPs and even notification settings to show content on lockscreen but they don't show up. What's the trick in here??!! I'm wasted of going around on this 1000000 (sub)menus for the solution but nothing, it doesn't show the content on lockscreen.
Is this related to face unlock? Or is it something else? It's my first Huawei phone, i'm still trying to figure out everything to make this beast run as i want.
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Please let me know if you find the solution!
lyricaleye said:
Please let me know if you find the solution!
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Have you tried the solution that the other guy posted above?
"Settings -> security & privacy -> face unlock -> "smart lock screen notifications" set to OFF. Else enabling face unlock breaks notifications."
didi_ghost said:
Have you tried the solution that the other guy posted above?
"Settings -> security & privacy -> face unlock -> "smart lock screen notifications" set to OFF. Else enabling face unlock breaks notifications."
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i already mentioned that in my post no?
That it is set to off...
lyricaleye said:
Please let me know if you find the solution!
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Ok so I posted this problem originally and the solution suggested by stevo_125 worked for me!
Basically you need to do two things:
- Turn off smart lock screen notifications in Face Unlock
- Turn on show notifications on lock screen from the three dot menu in notification management
Then go back and make sure they are still both set correctly.
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Ok so I posted this problem originally and the solution suggested by stevo_125 worked for me!
Basically you need to do two things:
- Turn off smart lock screen notifications in Face Unlock
- Turn on show notifications on lock screen from the three dot menu in notification management
Then go back and make sure they are still both set correctly.
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Both are there..its very strange..i went through all the menus so many times
must be some kind of bug
The only thing which is killing me, is that you are not able to read the whole notifications in the unlock screen.. Just a few words.
I've just asked to support and they told me "not phone features"

Question [solved] Fingerprint reader not working in third party apps

I use the fingerprint reader to log into the phone. It's working. But if I try to use biometric login features in keepass or my banking app it won't recognise my fingerprint. Does anyone else have this issue?
Edit after a reboot and deactivating and activating the authentication in other apps option and some more finger wiggling it worked.
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I use the fingerprint reader to log into the phone. It's working. But if I try to use biometric login features in keepass or my banking app it won't recognise my fingerprint. Does anyone else have this issue?
Edit after a reboot and deactivating and activating the authentication in other apps option and some more finger wiggling it worked.
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Working now in Keepass? I use biometric login with that all the time, especially when setting up.
Yes! Although the fingerprint reader seems to be picky
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Yes! Although the fingerprint reader seems to be picky
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Not again...
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Not again...
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I guess it's learning
That and at least face unlock is an option this time
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That and at least face unlock is an option this time
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But not within third party apps. At least if I didn't miss anything.
Not for biometric authentication not at launch. But it is a screen lock option
True. But this was about usage in apps.
I find it annoying Face unlock works(not for third party apps) however you still have to swipe up to get to home screen, lol
I've had to redo my fingerprint already. It stopped reading it, really wish they would have gone with a more high-tech face unlock.
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I find it annoying Face unlock works(not for third party apps) however you still have to swipe up to get to home screen, lol
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I saw on a youtube video (not sure which one) that there is a setting for face unlock to bypass the lock screen so you don't need the swipe action. I haven't received the device yet, so I can't tell you where the setting is.
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I find it annoying Face unlock works(not for third party apps) however you still have to swipe up to get to home screen, lol
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There's a setting in the face unlock options that says something like "Skip screen lock" that needs to be checked to go straight to the home screen.
Ghisy said:
There's a setting in the face unlock options that says something like "Skip screen lock" that needs to be checked to go straight to the home screen.
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Can confirm this works fine and face unlock seems fairly stable. If you dont use that option you still need to put finger to screen which kind of defeats the object .....

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