i was giving some thoughts on the parallel space and how it creates a virtual environment to run apps. so could it also able to hide root from apps if they are installed in parallel space? could it be possible?
If you're using Magisk there is an option to select apps to hide root from.
JerryGoyal said:
i was giving some thoughts on the parallel space and how it creates a virtual environment to run apps. so could it also able to hide root from apps if they are installed in parallel space? could it be possible?
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Yes parallel apps hides root.
i tried hiding root for tez app but didn't work. i tried using parallel space but no lucjk.
JerryGoyal said:
i was giving some thoughts on the parallel space and how it creates a virtual environment to run apps. so could it also able to hide root from apps if they are installed in parallel space? could it be possible?
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It might be possible but your app choices are limited.
On the same line of thinking though the island app creates an android work profile. I've used it to hide bank apps from root with good success.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.island
nice, it's a safer when you have to use some trash apps on your phone.
texasaggie1 said:
It might be possible but your app choices are limited.
On the same line of thinking though the island app creates an android work profile. I've used it to hide bank apps from root with good success.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.island
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so i tried running the bank app 'tez' in island app and it didn't work. tez still found out that the device is rooted. island app may work for some apps but not for all.
JerryGoyal said:
so i tried running the bank app 'tez' in island app and it didn't work. tez still found out that the device is rooted. island app may work for some apps but not for all.
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You sure you have magisk installed correctly with all safety check green/
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You sure you have magisk installed correctly with all safety check green/
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yes all the checks are passed and I'm able to hide root from some banking apps but this "tez" app is really clever to detect root (maybe becuz developed by Google)
JerryGoyal said:
yes all the checks are passed and I'm able to hide root from some banking apps but this "tez" app is really clever to detect root (maybe becuz developed by Google)
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and what if you hide the paralel app also?
Did you randomize the magisk manager apk name?
RiTCHiE007 said:
and what if you hide the paralel app also?
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i tried hiding "island" app but still no luck.
cciechad said:
Did you randomize the magisk manager apk name?
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no i didn't. I tried once randomizing it but then magisk stopped working for me and I again had to re-install it. maybe it's fixed in the latest release if someone can confirm.
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According to facebook report over my mail, someone has entered in to my fb via Xperia XA, Saratoga, CALIFORNIA, US. I am at Europe.
Most likely i was blocked because my phone Ip have changed somehow.Now i cant enter in to my account with msnger and facebook (only from browser) app on my phone. Think the security system is blocking my phone.
Ps: i had to swap Wifi with 4g in order to get access.
Did you use any vpn to access Fb?
Think not, just standart office Wifi connection. And i just check , my office location (according to my laptop is Europe), but according to my phone 4g i am at California ,Saratoga. So whats going on ?
Its something from the phone system, i changed the firmware few days ago, and the phone is encrypted now, so maybe its forcing the apps to connect via VPN network, or who knows...
really ?? my phones comes with greek firmware and now I use south Africa firmware !! is there any problem ?
Have you some apps from unofficial markets like Aptoide? Have you some apps downloaded from file-sharing links or P2P? If yes, don't search away, you probably have a malicious app.
If you are rooted, use a permission manager app, Xprivacy is good for that and allow blocking strange permissions (Facebook, Google accounts, contacts, device ident, ... for an app who don't need them).
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Have you some apps from unofficial markets like Aptoide? Have you some apps downloaded from file-sharing links or P2P? If yes, don't search away, you probably have a malicious app.
If you are rooted, use a permission manager app, Xprivacy is good for that and allow blocking strange permissions (Facebook, Google accounts, contacts, device ident, ... for an app who don't need them).
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Might have some. How to detect which one is virus ?
hp6830s said:
Might have some. How to detect which one is virus ?
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1) Try to re-download apps from trusted sources.
2) Try AVG app integrated in the device to scan it.
3) Use Xprivacy and block unnecessary permissions on suspicious apps, make some test (block/unblock) to understand what mean each permissions. For sample, a game generally don't need root, phone contacts or SMS and needs sensors, storage and Internet.
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3) Use Xprivacy and block unnecessary permissions on suspicious apps, make some test (block/unblock) to understand what mean each permissions. For sample, a game generally don't need root, phone contacts or SMS and needs sensors, storage and Internet.
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nICE,will try that ,got some apps which are not suitable for my device. Think they might be suspicious.
So Xprivacy installs xFrame too ?
hp6830s said:
nICE,will try that ,got some apps which are not suitable for my device. Think they might be suspicious.
So Xprivacy installs xFrame too ?
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Not suitable ?? Big targets to be suspicious are warez/cracked apps.
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Not suitable ?? Big targets to be suspicious are warez/cracked apps.
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One reason I'll never use apps like that in the first place. Just asking for trouble.
Sent from my Xperia XA using XDA Labs
aidy.lucas said:
One reason I'll never use apps like that in the first place. Just asking for trouble.
Sent from my Xperia XA using XDA Labs
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if you know what the app is its ok I think !
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Not suitable ?? Big targets to be suspicious are warez/cracked apps.
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yea few which i was trying to connect a DSLR and use the phone for shutter remote.
It looks like i have already removed the antivirus app.
Hi devs,
Since I have rooted my device with magisk my axis Bank app says we don't support rooted phone and it doesn't open. Is there a work around for it.
gunmanrishi said:
Hi devs,
Since I have rooted my device with magisk my axis Bank app says we don't support rooted phone and it doesn't open. Is there a work around for it.
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Did you root with Magisk? If so, use Magisk Hide feature and check the Axis Bank app. It should start working again.
gunmanrishi said:
Hi devs,
Since I have rooted my device with magisk my axis Bank app says we don't support rooted phone and it doesn't open. Is there a work around for it.
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AFAIK In android each app is installed as different user(from Linux system point of view).
Each user(app) has and runs in its own space. And can not access any other user's data.
Root is the user(app) which can access any user's data.
So any app having root access can access any other app's data which can compromise the security mechanisms used by banking applications. So banking apps refuse to start on rooted phone.
I would advice not to use banking apps on rooted phone.
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AFAIK In android each app is installed as different user(from Linux system point of view).
Each user(app) has and runs in its own space. And can not access any other user's data.
Root is the user(app) which can access any user's data.
So any app having root access can access any other app's data which can compromise the security mechanisms used by banking applications. So banking apps refuse to start on rooted phone.
I would advice not to use banking apps on rooted phone.
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If banking app builds its security on this fact, then I wouldn't use it at all. Many banking apps run completely fine with enabled root, some are just more cautious (or paranoid). Just think about security on a Windows PC (admin account, unsecure browser, internet banking in flash ..) - you have no restriction from bank, why should you accept it on a phone?
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If banking app builds its security on this fact, then I wouldn't use it at all. Many banking apps run completely fine with enabled root, some are just more cautious (or paranoid). Just think about security on a Windows PC (admin account, unsecure browser, internet banking in flash ..) - you have no restriction from bank, why should you accept it on a phone?
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I don't have any experience on windows 8 and 10, and do not know about any banking app for windows 7.
If we are running something as Admin and are able to access app's data(not common data folders like program files or login user data) we are screwed up. In that case most of the DRM protected contents also shall not work. I am not sure pre-installed DRM keys also work as usual after rooting your android phone.
Again every OS architecture is different and I am talking about android which uses Linux kernel.
Root access is not something about tuning your OS or phone, It comes with much more responsibility.
Root access to one wrong app can screw up many things. Off course you know all this jargon since you are senior member on this forum and I don't need to tell you this.
In Windows all apps can read other apps data, under the current user. They don't need admin access for that. Yet nothing is compromised I guess that Windows/Linux/Android banking apps use good cryptography and preventive measures, so even if someone gets access to the data, be it settings or network packets, you are safe. I am absolutely confident in using banking apps with root, however not so much with apps requesting accessibility permissions or Xposed modules. Those two can IMHO potentially do much more harm.
Long story short, use your brain, don't install everything you find on the Internet, don't allow all permissions without thinking and don't use shady public Wifi hotspots.
Hi, I've got root and xposed installed.
And already have installed amplify, greenify, no wakelock and bootstart manager.
But none of these was able to block an app from auto starting when phone is on.
Yea, it kills the app when you click on the greenifys shortcut, but I dont refer to that, I want an app which can disable the autorun service of the app.
Can anyone introduce a way or an app for that?
Thanks.
Aaazv said:
Hi, I've got root and xposed installed.
And already have installed amplify, greenify, no wakelock and bootstart manager.
But none of these was able to block an app from auto starting when phone is on.
Yea, it kills the app when you click on the greenifys shortcut, but I dont refer to that, I want an app which can disable the autorun service of the app.
Can anyone introduce a way or an app for that?
Thanks.
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You mean an app like autostarts? Which alters the criteria to said apps??
Used to use it years ago but it's still available..
Not a task manager but an actual app that manages changes.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.elsdoerfer.android.autostarts
Not free but definitely worth a £1
Hope this helps..
dladz said:
You mean an app like autostarts? Which alters the criteria to said apps??
Used to use it years ago but it's still available..
Not a task manager but an actual app that manages changes.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.elsdoerfer.android.autostarts
Not free but definitely worth a £1
Hope this helps..
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Thanks.
I think its what I needed, but its not asking for root so it wont work
Any orher app to share with me?
thanks
Aaazv said:
Thanks.
I think its what I needed, but its not asking for root so it wont work
Any orher app to share with me?
thanks
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Really??
Perhaps this may help then
https://android.stackexchange.com/questions/209327/disable-autostart-on-boot
Gutted about autostarts man that was a sick app.
This is one method for getting any banking app on rooted Android phones running nougat and higher to function. I tested in Android 10 and 11.
Google has offered native support for the work profile starting with nougat. (https://support.google.com/work/android/answer/6191949?hl=en).
To my understaing, it isolates everything from the primary profile by creating a container that contains files to run a new os with its own data. As a result, root must also be isolated. Therefore, we may take advantage of this advantage to run banking apps that aren't compatible with rooted apps, notably some apps that won't function even with the usage of settings in Magisk Hide.
To create and enable the work profile, you need an app. There arent many. I also came upon the apps Island and Shelter.
Island is available in the Google Play Store at this link (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.island&hl=en).
Shelter is available in fDroid (https://f-droid.org/en/packages/net.typeblog.shelter/)
1. Download and install Island or Shelter
2. Create a work profile (simply adhere to the on-screen directions). There will now be two profiles: a main profile and a island profile.
3. Clone the applications you want to use. It might request root permission, deny it. Never accept it.
4. launch the application from the island.
5. Make sure that magisk application is not installed in the work profile. Magisk has to be only in the main profile and you have to deny the root access to the island or Shelter.
You can create shortcuts to homepage for ease access.
If you are using the default launcher, a new work profile tab will show up that shows the work profile's app drawer. You have the option to activate and deactivate that profile whenever you choose.
i used my native banking app, it worked flawlessly.
Update: Banking app systems are updating and this method might not work for some banking apps. Try magisk hide too by changing the magisk's package name and deny the root request for Island and Shelter.
Thanks man is works very well
All the banking apps working properly using this application called island:?.
Vishal2323231 said:
All the banking apps working properly using this application called island:?.
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Just use magisk hide to hide the app from detecting root and hide magisk in settings
No it's not working for all the banking apps.
Some of the apps can detect root information even after you use magisk hide. But using 'island' apk all banking apps are working without any prob.
Vishal2323231 said:
Some of the apps can detect root information even after you use magisk hide. But using 'island' apk all banking apps are working without any prob.
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After blacklisting in Magisk Hide, change Magisk app package name
This can be done using "Hide Magisk Manager" option under Settings.
Above method has helped me to make any Bank app run!
Found this very useful app Mainland Thanks !
kvbkiran said:
This is a way to work any banking app in rooted android devices running nougat and above. I tested in android 10.
From nougat onward google has provided natively support to work profile.
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i share the same thoughts as you but i didnt test it actually. good to hear it works
what the differences in my mind are : i want to make it to run in a different env as to bypass the path specified in the rc and use the original system partition in case magisk/xposed is installed so as to avoid further root detection
it's work but I have to sign in every time I open app. Is there anyway to use fingerprint?
The problem I have is that I cannot install the bank app: Revolut.
The Play store tells me it's not compatible, a downloaded APK doesn't install.
I followed instructions to add modules. One of them is Petnoire's_SafetyNet_spoofer. All other modules were flashed and installed successfully, only Petnoire's_SafetyNet_Spoofer not. I downloaded the file from 2 locations, unfortunately with the same disappointed result.
Any advice?
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it's work but I have to sign in every time I open app. Is there anyway to use fingerprint?
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sign in?
did you mean entering the first security authentication like password, pattern, and pin?
if so
I didn't found anything to change it to fingerprint if you turn off and turn on work profile
I'll let you know if I found anything
tembares said:
The problem I have is that I cannot install the bank app: Revolut.
The Play store tells me it's not compatible, a downloaded APK doesn't install.
I followed instructions to add modules. One of them is Petnoire's_SafetyNet_spoofer. All other modules were flashed and installed successfully, only Petnoire's_SafetyNet_Spoofer not. I downloaded the file from 2 locations, unfortunately with the same disappointed result.
Any advice?
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I didn't mentioned anything regarding modules. You told that a banking app you sideloaded instead of downloading from the play store as it is incompatible. Did it work?
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I didn't mentioned anything regarding modules. You told that a banking app you sideloaded instead of downloading from the play store as it is incompatible. Did it work?
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No, it didn't install.
But, I uninstalled BusyBox pro, hide Magisk Manager and did the Magisk hide of all apps, except system UI.
I rebooted, and could install the app by the Play store.
I had read something about going to Google play settings to see the Play Protection certificate was signed. Before it wasn't, after the adjustments and reboot, it was.
Thank you for your time!
Hi, could it work on a unlocked Galaxy S7 with Android 8 (no longer knox)?
neobuddy89 said:
After blacklisting in Magisk Hide, change Magisk app package name
This can be done using "Hide Magisk Manager" option under Settings.
Above method has helped me to make any Bank app run!
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Thank you very much, this helped me.
My Banking -APP is working again
Need help.
Hey, I tried installing my banking app to Island, but it doesn't work when isolated. Has something to do with NFC-data not exchanging properly through work profiles.
My banking app detects an unlocked bootloader. From what I've heard, Magisk 20.4 can't hide bootloader/secure boot status due to Google's new update? Although, I've heard something about Magisk 20.1 being able to do this. Is this true? Don't want to jump into decisions without checking upp first.
I'm on a OnePlus 7 Pro GM1913. Located in EU.
Nah doesn't work, i think my banking app is too powerful
Does this method still work?
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This is a way to work any banking app in rooted android devices running nougat and above. I tested in android 10.
From nougat onward google has provided natively support to work profile. (https://support.google.com/work/android/answer/6191949?hl=en). Shortly what it does is create an account which isolates everything from main profile(current data). So it also has to isolate root too.. So we can use this advantage to run banking apps which wont support in rooted apps, specifically some apps that wont work even you use magisk hide or any other software.
you need an app to create and turn on the work profile. There's not a lot. I found too apps 1. Island 2. Shelter. Island can be found in play store (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.island&hl=en).
1, download and install
2. create a work profile (just follow the instructions on the screen)
now there will be two profiles one is main and another is island
3. clone your desired app. it will ask for the root permission.
4. open the app from the island
you can create shortcuts from that island
if you are using default launcher a new work profile tab will be appear which will show app drawer in work profile. You can turn on and off that profile whenever you want.
If you want to delete the profile go to island app >> three dots menu >> settings >> setup & shutdown click on the delete button beside the island. if it wont work got to your phone settings >> accounts >> there you will see a work profile at the bottom click on the "remove."
https://youtu.be/CSb3NQpqhQs
i used my native banking app it worked flawlessly.
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I am curious if this method works for others who are having difficulty with banking apps (that have worked just fine, until recently).
I've been reading about Google's dreaded hardware attestation built into their SafetyNet Attestation API. Here is a link to the info: https://www.xda-developers.com/safetynet-hardware-attestation-hide-root-magisk/
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BTW I am totally free of Google; no Google Play Store, no Google Pay, no Google Framework, no Gapps, no Google spyware, no Google bloatware, no Google tracking etc.
I download all my apps as APK's which are readily available on the Net ( Google them . . . just kidding! ).
My older Samsung S3 i747 is a 'd2att' originally locked to Rogers, in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. Then switched over to MTS (Manitoba Telephone System). Now running on Bell Canada. My replacement is also a Samsung S3 T999, originally running T-Mobile in Arizona, now running on Bell Canada.
Thanks Mate...
thanks mate.. this helped me a lot..
Vishalbun said:
thanks mate.. this helped me a lot..
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Which method worked? Are you running a custom ROM? Was it a banking APK, or Google Playstore APP?
kvbkiran said:
This is a way to work any banking app in rooted android devices running nougat and above. I tested in android 10.
From nougat onward google has provided natively support to work profile. (https://support.google.com/work/android/answer/6191949?hl=en). Shortly what it does is create an account which isolates everything from main profile(current data). So it also has to isolate root too.. So we can use this advantage to run banking apps which wont support in rooted apps, specifically some apps that wont work even you use magisk hide or any other software.
you need an app to create and turn on the work profile. There's not a lot. I found too apps 1. Island 2. Shelter. Island can be found in play store (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.island&hl=en).
1, download and install
2. create a work profile (just follow the instructions on the screen)
now there will be two profiles one is main and another is island
3. clone your desired app. it will ask for the root permission.
4. open the app from the island
you can create shortcuts from that island
if you are using default launcher a new work profile tab will be appear which will show app drawer in work profile. You can turn on and off that profile whenever you want.
If you want to delete the profile go to island app >> three dots menu >> settings >> setup & shutdown click on the delete button beside the island. if it wont work got to your phone settings >> accounts >> there you will see a work profile at the bottom click on the "remove."
https://youtu.be/CSb3NQpqhQs
i used my native banking app it worked flawlessly.
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thank you it worked on my note 9
So I decided to install magisk again and managed to pass safety net and all that so I can now use Gpay. Then I figured since Gpay works now surely the mcdonalds app would also work, right? I mean, how much security does an app that literally does not handle any money need?
Anyway, since it seems to work randomly on some devices and not on others I'm just curious if any of you have managed to get it to work on an unlocked Mix 2s
Tried hiding magisk? And putting the app on the hide list in magisk?
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Tried hiding magisk? And putting the app on the hide list in magisk?
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Of course. Also tried a local payment app and everytime i open it the first time it doesn't work due to root but if I close it and open it again it works. So basically gpay works now but my banking apps don't work lol