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Hi, can I use this 4.75v 0.55A microUSB charger to charge the OnePlus 6? with a microUSB-USB type c adapter
Would it be harmful or good to load more slowly?
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Xares said:
Hi, can I use this 4.75v 0.55A microUSB charger to charge the OnePlus 6? with a microUSB-USB type c adapter
Would it be harmful or good to load more slowly?
sorry for my english
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If it's not even 1A it probably won't be enough to charge it. Will likely use more power than what that will output. Would go with something that's 5V 1A or 5V 2A.

TechOut said:
If it's not even 1A it probably won't be enough to charge it. Will likely use more power than what that will output. Would go with something that's 5V 1A or 5V 2A.
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is not true, by multiple measurements I found out that phone taking less than 1A of 5V in the most cases.
Charging from ~80% phone barely overtaking 1A of power even from dash charger 5V/4A

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[Q] Scoshe reVIVEII

Anyone using this charger with their Inspire4G?
I've tried using this charger with my phone, with several different cables, including the OEM cable. I can only ever get the phone to charge at the USB rate, not the AC charge rate.
Is this normal or is my charger defective?
http://scosche.com/consumer-tech/product/1921
I would assume thats because the 2.1A is ment for Ipad/Iphone/Ipod devices as they require a larger amp charge.
The 1.0A is ment for all other USB devices.
States that in the description.
Charge your iPad and an additional USB powered device at once
Use your existing USB cables to charge any additional USB powered devices
2.1 Amp USB port for charging iPad
1 Amp USB port for charging additional devices
Were are you getting AC Charge rate / USB Charge rate ?
On both ports, I'm only getting the USB charge rate.
d00mz said:
On both ports, I'm only getting the USB charge rate.
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What do you meen USB Charge Rate..
I am going to guess ..
AC Charge Rate = Wall Charger
USB Charge Rate = Computer USB 2.0/3.0
Does car charger port provide enough amps to give full value?
metaldood said:
Does car charger port provide enough amps to give full value?
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Yes. See below.
xKrisx said:
What do you meen USB Charge Rate..
I am going to guess ..
AC Charge Rate = Wall Charger
USB Charge Rate = Computer USB 2.0/3.0
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when you go into Settings -> about phone -> Battery
It will show you the charging status. USB Charging typically is no more than 500ma. AC charging should be 1a.
I have an old AT&T brand car charger that charges the phone in "AC" mode.
This is were I am still getting confused.
What ROM are you running, Stock / MIUI / CM7 / or a Rom based off of stock ?
Is it 2.3.3 or 2.2.1 or 2.3.4 ?
I don't have those reading under battery status.
Anyways, I will go ahead and make the assumption that your car charger is busted and need to get it replaced.
This is were I don't get were you are stating AC Charging.
Alternating Current = AC Direct Current = DC
You cannot charge a battery " DC " with an Alternating Current " AC " period. Thats why all battery chargers reguardless of type convert AC power to DC.
Then only thing I can think of is maybe your phone can detect what type of charger it is connected to, displaying it as an AC Wall Charger or a DC Car/USB Charger.
Wall Chargers will generaly charge quicker then a computer USB Charger. Car charger typicaly charge quicker then most wall chargers.
Most Car chargers are very poor at controlling the amperage being supplied. They may stay at the right voltage but rest assured, you hit a 5v 2amp battery with a 5v 10amp charge and your going to fry it. This is the reason I dislike car chargers.
I can only see one of two problems with your Car Charger ;
1: the Car charger is bad
2: your 12 Power source port is not supplying the correct amperage that your car charger requires. IE:
I have the HTC Car dock for my inspire. It has an imput requirement of 12V 5 Amps to operate efficiently. The Power supply I have it plugged into is the 12V 20A Accesory Port in the front of my truck. It works just fine.
If your device requires say 12v 5 Amps to operate efficiently yet your car is only supplying 12v 1 Amp due to bad wiring, old fuses or bad connections your car charger will not charge at idicated levels.
The ROM is simply displaying "USB" if it is drawing 500ma charge, or "AC" if it's drawing 1000ma charge.
I'm running the 2.2.1, the LeeDroid_HD_V.2.0.0 ROM
d00mz said:
The ROM is simply displaying "USB" if it is drawing 500ma charge, or "AC" if it's drawing 1000ma charge.
I'm running the 2.2.1, the LeeDroid_HD_V.2.0.0 ROM
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Ok, so your saying that when you have the Car Charger plugged up and your device connected, your only getting a 500ma charge. When you use your old ATT Car Charger it shows 1000ma.
500ma = .5 Amps
1000ma = 1.0 Amps
If your not getting over 500ma out of your car charger then either 1 of two things.
Car Charger is busted, get it replaced.
Car is not putting out correct Amp - Voltage for the car charge to operate correctly.
Your old car charger could have different requirements and that is the reason it works, your new one could use a deifferent set and may not work.
Regardless, its not working in your car, try it in a friends and see if it works, if not then the charger is broke, if it does, then your car is broke.
Try usiing current widget while charging.. and see the readings
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i don't know what you are talking about here. The 2.1 Amp option is NOT the AC charging rate. It is pretty clear if you look at the stock HTC charger that comes with the phone, it says it outputs "1.5 V at 1A".
And anyways...if you look at the product description on the link you posted, it CLEARLY states the 2.1A is for charging an iPad.
buddy17 said:
i don't know what you are talking about here. The 2.1 Amp option is NOT the AC charging rate. It is pretty clear if you look at the stock HTC charger that comes with the phone, it says it outputs "1.5 V at 1A".
And anyways...if you look at the product description on the link you posted, it CLEARLY states the 2.1A is for charging an iPad.
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I've used both ports on the reVIVE II, both the 2.1a and the 1a. Both only report the phone charging at 500ma
d00mz said:
I've used both ports on the reVIVE II, both the 2.1a and the 1a. Both only report the phone charging at 500ma
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sorry...i thought you were referring to the AC rate as the 2.1A port, and the USB rate as the 1A port.

Can I use other wall charger for SBH20?

I just bought the SBH 20 today and i wonder can i use other charger or power bank to charge this SBH 20?
I see the wall charger come with the SBH 20 with input 150mA and output of 850mA.
was thinking to use XPZ wall charger with input 250mA and output of 1500mA, will it damage my SBH 20 if i charge it with XPZ wall charger? don't feel like bring so many wall charger when travel.
oh, my power bank is 7800mAh with 1 output port 1A and another 1.5A. can i use the 1A to charge?
Thanks in advance.
andrew_wang916 said:
I just bought the SBH 20 today and i wonder can i use other charger or power bank to charge this SBH 20?
I see the wall charger come with the SBH 20 with input 150mA and output of 850mA.
was thinking to use XPZ wall charger with input 250mA and output of 1500mA, will it damage my SBH 20 if i charge it with XPZ wall charger? don't feel like bring so many wall charger when travel.
oh, my power bank is 7800mAh with 1 output port 1A and another 1.5A. can i use the 1A to charge?
Thanks in advance.
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You can allways use a charger with higher Amps (mA).
Only importent thing is you have 5V.
Using an output with higher Amps sometimes reduces charging time.
Mixermachine said:
You can allways use a charger with higher Amps (mA).
Only importent thing is you have 5V.
Using an output with higher Amps sometimes reduces charging time.
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i saw the power bank and other is 5.3V, does it matter?
how about using usb charging from laptop/desktop?
Sorry for being stupid, as I'm not IT expert.
andrew_wang916 said:
i saw the power bank and other is 5.3V, does it matter?
how about using usb charging from laptop/desktop?
Sorry for being stupid, as I'm not IT expert.
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If the device is properly designed 5.3V is no problem.
IIRC the stock wall charger is 1,5A (1500mA). It will theoretically charge the 2,3Ah battery in roughly 1h 32min.
The word "charger" is a bit misleading, because it actually is just a power supply. The actual charger is built into the phone. The phone will regulate the current (amperage) and charge the battery using the most suitable current. As long as the power supply is rated at 5V, it doesn't really matter if it's a 1,5A or a 5A power supply. The phone will take what it needs and nothing more. The power supply will not "force" any amperes into the phone.
Charging via USB from the computer will take longer, because USB ports on computers only give a maximum of 0,5A. The theoretical charging time will therefore be three times longer than with the stock wall charger. Repeated charging at such low currents is not recommended. It's best to use a power supply with enough current and let the phone do the rest.
In other words: You can use just about any Micro USB wall charger, as long as it's of sufficient amperage (not too low). I would also stay well clear of the cheapest chinese chargers. You never know what they will do.

In Xiaomi mi 4 quick charge2.0 not enabled

Seems Qualcomm which charge 2.0 not working with Mi 4 original cable anyone suggest how enable fast charging on Xiaomi mi 4.
If I'm not mistaken, you need a charger with higher outputs then the standard wall charger shipped with most phones. Just a guess though seeing as my Xiaomi Mi 4 charger is a five volt charger.
Charger
My charger say Output 5v=2A/9v=1.2A/12v=1A i dont know if that whats needed but it charges very quickly.
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My charger say Output 5v=2A/9v=1.2A/12v=1A i dont know if that whats needed but it charges very quickly.
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5v is the voltage standard. What you want is AMPS. ALWAYS select 5 volts.
Computers (USB 2.0) can output maximum 0.5A (500ma) at 5 volts, while USB 3.0 can output 900ma or 0.9A.
Most MicroUSB chargers output anything from 1A to 3A+, with 1A and 2.1A being the most common.
So while a 1A will charge your phone a X percent per minute, a two amp charger will charge it at almost double the rate (not exactly, but close enough).
I do however (and I stand corrected), recommend not to go too high an amperage, while your phone my not get damaged, slow and steady charging is better for the battery than high current, quick charging.
Some phone, like my Galaxy S5, requires a 2A charger, but other phones may not like it.
I think it's always enable ...

5V 3A Charger?

Currently I am using both N6P and M8.
N6P supports 5V/3A but no QC2, and M8 supports QC2.
I don't want to carry 2 chargers all the time, so I did little bit search and found this:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0122P71FC?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
It seems to be a good one, with 5V 3A, 9V 1.67A, 12V 1.2A, so now I guess I can use it with Zaptip.
Anything similar to that?
liweichen6 said:
Currently I am using both N6P and M8.
N6P supports 5V/3A but no QC2, and M8 supports QC2.
I don't want to carry 2 chargers all the time, so I did little bit search and found this:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0122P71FC?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
It seems to be a good one, with 5V 3A, 9V 1.67A, 12V 1.2A, so now I guess I can use it with Zaptip.
Anything similar to that?
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I have charger along with a USB-A to C cable. My 6P doesn't register as quick charging when using it.
fallingd0wn said:
I have charger along with a USB-A to C cable. My 6P doesn't register as quick charging when using it.
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On 5V 3A?
If that's what it's actually outputting then the nexus doesn't see it that way. I suppose it may be my cables. I don't have a USB-C to A adapter to try the C to C cable that came with the phone.
FYI I have this charger and it registers as fast charging with my Nexus 6p:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HPTU00E
Can't say for sure if it charges exactly the same power/speed as the stock charger, but did notice it was definitely charging very fast..
It's the $10.99 20W black version.
just4747 said:
FYI I have this charger and it registers as fast charging with my Nexus 6p:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HPTU00E
Can't say for sure if it charges exactly the same power/speed as the stock charger, but did notice it was definitely charging very fast..
It's the $10.99 20W black version.
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Says 5V 2.4A for each port. So I guess it would be slower than the stock one.
liweichen6 said:
Says 5V 2.4A for each port. So I guess it would be slower than the stock one.
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Possibly but it did say rapid charging and it did charge plenty fast to me.
Honestly the stock charger doesn't seem very fast to me
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When I plugged in my 6P's 5V/3A charger at 19% it said it would take 1 hour to charge. When I tried my iPad brick(5.2V/2.4A) and a USB C to USB A I got from amazon and it said it would take 1 hour to charge from 18%. Both said charging rapidly. It seems as long as the wall adapter puts out 5V and 2A or more it should charge rapidly, regardless of the wall adapter being USB A or C.
This charger situation is a nightmare. But....
I bought one of these awhile ago for $12 on sale, and I didn't expect for it to quick charge the Nexus 6p, but it does seem to register as quick charging.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...harge aukey&qid=1446247138&ref_=sr_1_7&sr=8-7
The charger listed in the first post will register as quick charging when using a USB 3.1 certified A to C cable.

Power Delivery providing a lot less than 15W charging. Hovering around 4.5v/1.8A

The 7 Pro is supposed to support 5v/3A, 15W charging from a Power Delivery charger, but I'm only seeing 4.5v/1.8A, which is about 8W slow charging.
Am I reading this wrong? What's the best/highest/fastest charging you've seen from a PD charger?
Charger used: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07H9WMW6N/ USB C PD Charger with GaN Tech, RAVPower Wall Charger Adapter 45W Type-C Power Delivery
Cable used: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06Y25Y6WX/ Anker Powerline+
Your battery is above 50% and charging speed slows with increasing battery percentage. To determine maximum speed of USB PD for the OP7Pro you need to check at a lower charge level. Warp charge will also not charge with 30W all the way.
What battery app is that?
Even with the OP charger once you get to 50-70% changing rate slows down by at least 50%, try when the phone is at 10% and then watch it for a couple minutes, that will tell you the max for that particular charger
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Protomize said:
What battery app is that?
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It's the built in diagnostics. Dial *#808# in the OP Phone app.
Swipe to the second screen, "Device debugging", and there's one test for Normal Charger, and one for Fast Charger.
Harry Pothead said:
Your battery is above 50% and charging speed slows with increasing battery percentage. To determine maximum speed of USB PD for the OP7Pro you need to check at a lower charge level. Warp charge will also not charge with 30W all the way.
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Even with the OP charger once you get to 50-70% changing rate slows down by at least 50%, try when the phone is at 10% and then watch it for a couple minutes, that will tell you the max for that particular charger
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That's a great point, thanks! I'll try again from a lower charge state!
OnePlus has said it supports 15w PD while screen is off and 5v 1.5a while display is on.
parsa5 said:
OnePlus has said it supports 15w PD while screen is off and 5v 1.5a while display is on.
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Link?
338lm said:
That's a great point, thanks! I'll try again from a lower charge state!
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Basically no change when the battery was much lower :crying:
parsa5 said:
OnePlus has said it supports 15w PD while screen is off and 5v 1.5a while display is on.
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Relatively no change between screen on vs off
338lm said:
Link?
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Question: Do the OnePlus 7 and 7 Pro supportpower
338lm said:
Basically no change when the battery was much lower :crying:
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I'm seeing the same thing. I tried three different USB PD chargers that I used on my Pixel XL. The highest charge current I saw was 1980mA. The battery was in the low to mid 30% range. I used the Ampere app. To check the accuracy of the app, I tried two things. 1. I used the stock Oneplus Warp charger and Ampere showed 5740mA (wow, 5.7A is kicking some butt!). 2. While using my Belkin USB-PD car charger, I noted the voltage and current coming from my bench power supply. The bench supply was outputting about 10W so an Ampere reading of about 8W of energy into the phone made sense. I used three different cables too.
All my cables are USB-C to USB-C since all my PD chargers have a USB-C port on them. I see the standard for USB 3.1 has a max rating of [email protected] which can be done over a USB-A to USB-C cable. I wonder if the only way to get 15W into the phone (besides the Oneplus chargers) is to use a USB-A to USB-C cable with a charger that has a USB-A port and can support 3A? Edit: No, more research shows there there should be no problems with C-C. The Belkin PD car charger I have doesn't specifically say it supports [email protected], but the Anker AC USB charger does list [email protected] I can't get more than about 1900mA out of it even with the battery low.
I basically support all the users that OP failed this point to include proper USB PD function. Only 7.5w to 10w is supported without any dash or warp charger. Confirmed
should be fixed with 10.0.2
Power Delivery (PD) is very complex. For example the USB PD Revision 3 specification is 657 pages. Much of the complexity involves the negotiation protocols between chargers and phones or other devices. In cases where a compatible protocol can't be negotiated between a charger and phone the page 242 of the spec says: "Shall supply the default [USB 2.0], [USB 3.2], [USB Type-C 2.0] (USB Type-C®) or [USBBC 1.2] voltage and current to VBUS when a Contract does not exist (USB Default Operation)." That's my guess why people are seeing lower charging currents than advertised by the chargers.
The OP's charger has this interesting cryptic note on their Amazon page: "Rapid charge: USB-C charger delivers 45-watts of power to charge and recharge all of your important devices at a high speed with PD 3. 0 (5V/ 3a, 9V/ 3a, 12V/ 3a, 15V/ 3a, 20V/ 2. 25a) Note: USB adapter will not be able to trigger the PD protocol
Specifications are at https://www.usb.org/document-library/usb-power-delivery

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