I've read all the posts on this, but near as I can tell nobody can figure out how to fix the problem...
When I'm streaming radio over my T-Mobile GPRS connection, my phone NEVER sees an incoming call. I jsut tested it 10 times, and every call went straight to voicemail without ringing - either on the SDA or in the earpiece of the landline I called from. This occasionally happens when simply browsing as well, if the incoming call happens to occur at exactly the same time the SDA is reading in a page. But the real pain is the streaming. I was so excited to finally be able to stream radio over the air, but I can't bring myself to ever use it, knowing that it will basically take my phone unreachable the whole time.
PLEASE tell me there's a fix for this!!!!
Uisng the T-mobile SDA, running the imate 2.6.33 ROM...
Please help....
There is no fix. GSM+GPRS is meant to have the ability to cancel data calls when a voice call comes in but I haven't found that this works on the SDA or many of the other devices either. It sucks a lot.
Here's your explanation.
It's a limitation of the GSM service.
From here...
http://www.gsmworld.com/technology/gprs/class.shtml
The class indicates the mobile phone capabilities.
Class A
Class A mobile phones can be connected to both GPRS and GSM services simultaneously.
Class B
Class B mobile phones can be attached to both GPRS and GSM services, using one service at a time. Class B enables making or receiving a voice call, or sending/receiving an SMS during a GPRS connection. During voice calls or SMS, GPRS services are suspended and then resumed automatically after the call or SMS session has ended.
Class C
Class C mobile phones are attached to either GPRS or GSM voice service. You need to switch manually between services.
So you have a Class B service
Great Info Pinko! Thanks!
Still sucks though. If I have a class B device, there should be a way for the phone to at least recognize the incoming call when I'm streaming radio and interrupt it (the GPRS session) temporarily to inform me. But, I understand. Apparently when I'm streaming there isn't a "break" in transmission long enough for the GSM service to see the call and notify me - is that the jist of it?
Thanks again for the link.
twinair said:
Here's your explanation.
It's a limitation of the GSM service.
So you have a Class B service
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The explanation is not true!
When surfing or StreamMedia on EDGE, same problem ! no incoming call.
I put the SIM back on Sony Ericsson phone as Internet modem to PC on EDGE and GPRS, no any problem . It looks HTC or WM5.0 have some defective designing issue !
I have an HTC ONE V and im facing a similar problem. Whenever the mobile data connection is on and data is being transferred through it, the phone does not receive calls. This does not happen in other phones. I asked a few friends (with android phones) about this and they dont seem to be facing any such issues.
Any solution to this yet?
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I have an HTC ONE V and im facing a similar problem. Whenever the mobile data connection is on and data is being transferred through it, the phone does not receive calls. This does not happen in other phones. I asked a few friends (with android phones) about this and they dont seem to be facing any such issues.
Any solution to this yet?
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Your best bet would be to ask in the HTC one V section here (Make sure to post in the Q/A section!)
Hi Guys,
I am trying to use VOIP for the first time on my touch cruise so please bear with me.
I am trying to use VOIPstunt with Frings.
Anyone tried this before ?
If i am calling for example Singapore which is FREE stated on the VOIPstunt website, does it mean as long as i have a WIFI connection, i can call anyone in Singapore using Frings through VOIPstunt for free?
Frings I don't know but I use x-lite. And yes it works the way you asked on wifi (free)
The free call of course works also on 3g and hsdpa but you may be charged data rate if you don't have unlimited data plan.
For the setup, this is taken from their website:
- Display Name : fill in your your name, this name will be displayed in the phone screen of the person you are calling
- User name : fill in your username, this is the username you used for the registration of your VoipStunt-account
- Password : fill in your your password, this is the password you used for the registration of your VoipStunt-account
-Authorization user name : same as User name
-Domain : fill in sip.voipstunt.com
Edit: I have free call to belgium BUT only to fix number and not mobile phone. But for singapore they say to mobile too. So I think you are more lucky than me.
Thanks for your respond.
Do you use VOIPStunt as well ?
I tried it on my computer and it totally suck! i can;t even hear what the other part was saying! It was so distorted!..
u experience this too ?
I 've used Fring and VOIPStunt. They do work together. The settings should be:
myaccount.voipstunt.com with your ID and PW.
Remember that VOIP sound quality can be not so good thru the phone. It tasks the phone quite a bit and the network speed really needs to be WiFi quality. 3G can sometimes produce decent results, but its spotty.
I use VOIPStunt on my PC at home and it works brilliantly. MUCH better sound quality over Skype's voice service. I use it EVERY DAY since I have G/F situation where I am in the US and she is in Malaysia.
Now when I want to call her from my phone, I use their SMS-initiated phone call option. For a 5 euro-cent per call fee, they will let you initiate a phone-to-phone voip call. So, you SMS the VOIPStunt line (+447624802856) with a message content that only has the number you want to call. Then, it initiates a call. First, you get a call on your handset. Then, when you pick up, it dials the other party. And voila, you have a phone to phone call via VOIP that DOES NOT use data service. it uses your normal GSM phone line. So, the quality of the call depends on your voice connection, not your data connection quality. If you are calling from a US mobile to a any Singapore landline or mobile number, the call only costs you the 5cent connection fee!
So, as you can see, I use VOIPStunt ffrom my PC using the software and data. But when using my phone, I use the SMS-initiated phone-to-phone, so theres no need for Fring, or any other VOIP software on your phone.
Oh and BTW, another advantage of the phone-to-phone is you can use any headset, BT, wired, or the normal earpiecem since its just a normal call to you!
I use 3g VideoCall from Telme,works fine !
I use 3g VideoCall from Telme,it works fine on my TC except for the video right now (they say they will release a new version in march or april).
You can download it (from the download section) and use it for free (or with an account just like skype)after registering for free as a Free Member from here : http://web2.telme.sg/cedel/index.php?option=mod_joinus
With "Route 60" activated (as a distributor) u can even call for free to 60 countries on fixed phones (from which 6 countries on fixed AND MOBILES for free)
I call then free from mi 3gphone to fixed phones, to 3gphones and also even to computers having the correspondent software from Telme installed (Deskcall NG)
I tried fring with voipstunt and voipbuster, I could not find my Voip contactlist and was not convinced so I uninstalled it.
Fring....
I've tried Fring to a Skype contact and their voice came out of the speaker at the back!
So I was in the house yelling at my phone. haha...
Admittedly, I was setting them up live and given they aren't very IT, as far as they were concerned
what was I doing, "why didn't it just all work, like a normal phone" "explain, explain, explain"
And I had been playing music out of it so perhaps it was locked to the mic on the back....
Other than that, there did seem to be a baaaaaddd delay.
I'll try it again....
jomo25 said:
I 've used Fring and VOIPStunt. They do work together. The settings should be:
myaccount.voipstunt.com with your ID and PW.
Remember that VOIP sound quality can be not so good thru the phone. It tasks the phone quite a bit and the network speed really needs to be WiFi quality. 3G can sometimes produce decent results, but its spotty.
I use VOIPStunt on my PC at home and it works brilliantly. MUCH better sound quality over Skype's voice service. I use it EVERY DAY since I have G/F situation where I am in the US and she is in Malaysia.
Now when I want to call her from my phone, I use their SMS-initiated phone call option. For a 5 euro-cent per call fee, they will let you initiate a phone-to-phone voip call. So, you SMS the VOIPStunt line (+447624802856) with a message content that only has the number you want to call. Then, it initiates a call. First, you get a call on your handset. Then, when you pick up, it dials the other party. And voila, you have a phone to phone call via VOIP that DOES NOT use data service. it uses your normal GSM phone line. So, the quality of the call depends on your voice connection, not your data connection quality. If you are calling from a US mobile to a any Singapore landline or mobile number, the call only costs you the 5cent connection fee!
So, as you can see, I use VOIPStunt ffrom my PC using the software and data. But when using my phone, I use the SMS-initiated phone-to-phone, so theres no need for Fring, or any other VOIP software on your phone.
Oh and BTW, another advantage of the phone-to-phone is you can use any headset, BT, wired, or the normal earpiecem since its just a normal call to you!
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hey u mean u can call for free using GSM?
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hey u mean u can call for free using GSM?
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Well, almost free. 5 euro cents per call. yes via GSM. They eve just expanded their service. Now they provide a number to call for each country. You call that number, then enter in the number you wish to call. If you have unlimited calling in your country, then again, all you pay is the 5 euro cent connection fee. Its awesome.
jomo25 said:
Well, almost free. 5 euro cents per call. yes via GSM. They eve just expanded their service. Now they provide a number to call for each country. You call that number, then enter in the number you wish to call. If you have unlimited calling in your country, then again, all you pay is the 5 euro cent connection fee. Its awesome.
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i have a voipstunt and voipcheap account. can teach me step by step how to make a gsm call which cost only 5cents? im calling to austrialia which is a free destination call.
For best VOIP sound quality one should use a handsfree. Wired or BT - result is the same I'm using VOIP Buster Pro with my TC and Windows Mobile native VOIP and call quality is nearly perfect. No skipping at all with WiFi.
yes you can make free calls using GSM !
xln said:
hey u mean u can call for free using GSM?
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yes you can make free calls using GSM ! The condition is to be a distributor Telme products and services and to have "route 60" activated .
You can ask me more informations.
Christian
[email protected]
xln said:
i have a voipstunt and voipcheap account. can teach me step by step how to make a gsm call which cost only 5cents? im calling to austrialia which is a free destination call.
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See this page: http://www.voipstunt.com/en/geo.html
It depends on where you are calling from. Depending on where you are, you call an access number via GSM on your phone. Then, once that answers, it prompts you to key in the number you want to call. If it is a free destination, then you only pay local charges to the original number. In the US, it only costs me my "minutes". THe call is otherwise free.
jomo25 said:
See this page: http://www.voipstunt.com/en/geo.html
It depends on where you are calling from. Depending on where you are, you call an access number via GSM on your phone. Then, once that answers, it prompts you to key in the number you want to call. If it is a free destination, then you only pay local charges to the original number. In the US, it only costs me my "minutes". THe call is otherwise free.
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im calling from singapore, there is no access code for it, means i cant use this feature? if i am using singapore mobile number to call austrialia mobile, i still have to have the local charges? but the in this case, it wont be local charges already right?
jomo25 said:
I 've used Fring and VOIPStunt. They do work together. The settings should be:
myaccount.voipstunt.com with your ID and PW.
Remember that VOIP sound quality can be not so good thru the phone. It tasks the phone quite a bit and the network speed really needs to be WiFi quality. 3G can sometimes produce decent results, but its spotty.
I use VOIPStunt on my PC at home and it works brilliantly. MUCH better sound quality over Skype's voice service. I use it EVERY DAY since I have G/F situation where I am in the US and she is in Malaysia.
Now when I want to call her from my phone, I use their SMS-initiated phone call option. For a 5 euro-cent per call fee, they will let you initiate a phone-to-phone voip call. So, you SMS the VOIPStunt line (+447624802856) with a message content that only has the number you want to call. Then, it initiates a call. First, you get a call on your handset. Then, when you pick up, it dials the other party. And voila, you have a phone to phone call via VOIP that DOES NOT use data service. it uses your normal GSM phone line. So, the quality of the call depends on your voice connection, not your data connection quality. If you are calling from a US mobile to a any Singapore landline or mobile number, the call only costs you the 5cent connection fee!
So, as you can see, I use VOIPStunt ffrom my PC using the software and data. But when using my phone, I use the SMS-initiated phone-to-phone, so theres no need for Fring, or any other VOIP software on your phone.
Oh and BTW, another advantage of the phone-to-phone is you can use any headset, BT, wired, or the normal earpiecem since its just a normal call to you!
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can i know how to use this SMS-initiated phone call option?
i want to have phone to phone call using gsm which is free..im from singapore, do i still sms to the same number as above?
Did you check the link I posted above for the new phone-to-phone method? Or to do SMS-initiated phone-to-phone, check this link: http://voipstunt.com/en/phone-to-phone.html
You will need to sign up with VOIPstunt.com first though. It works great.
jomo25 said:
Did you check the link I posted above for the new phone-to-phone method? Or to do SMS-initiated phone-to-phone, check this link: http://voipstunt.com/en/phone-to-phone.html
You will need to sign up with VOIPstunt.com first though. It works great.
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i saw this website. the phone to phone feature is free if i call to a free destination? i already have a account.thanks for reply.
jomo25 said:
I 've used Fring and VOIPStunt. They do work together. The settings should be:
myaccount.voipstunt.com with your ID and PW.
Remember that VOIP sound quality can be not so good thru the phone. It tasks the phone quite a bit and the network speed really needs to be WiFi quality. 3G can sometimes produce decent results, but its spotty.
I use VOIPStunt on my PC at home and it works brilliantly. MUCH better sound quality over Skype's voice service. I use it EVERY DAY since I have G/F situation where I am in the US and she is in Malaysia.
Now when I want to call her from my phone, I use their SMS-initiated phone call option. For a 5 euro-cent per call fee, they will let you initiate a phone-to-phone voip call. So, you SMS the VOIPStunt line (+447624802856) with a message content that only has the number you want to call. Then, it initiates a call. First, you get a call on your handset. Then, when you pick up, it dials the other party. And voila, you have a phone to phone call via VOIP that DOES NOT use data service. it uses your normal GSM phone line. So, the quality of the call depends on your voice connection, not your data connection quality. If you are calling from a US mobile to a any Singapore landline or mobile number, the call only costs you the 5cent connection fee!
So, as you can see, I use VOIPStunt ffrom my PC using the software and data. But when using my phone, I use the SMS-initiated phone-to-phone, so theres no need for Fring, or any other VOIP software on your phone.
Oh and BTW, another advantage of the phone-to-phone is you can use any headset, BT, wired, or the normal earpiecem since its just a normal call to you!
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hi, i have tried sms to the voipstunt line using my singapore mobile. but i didnt recieve any call back from voipstunt..in the sms , i entered another singapore mobile number beginning with +65. i did anything wrong?
and if i use this sms intiaited call, it only cost 5cent per call right?
60 countries dor free includin Malaysia and USA(land+mobiles)
jomo25 said:
I use it EVERY DAY since I have G/F situation where I am in the US and she is in Malaysia.
Now when I want to call her from my phone, I use their SMS-initiated phone call option. For a 5 euro-cent per call fee, they will let you initiate a phone-to-phone voip call. .... the call only costs you the 5cent connection fee!
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with the Route 60 from Telme here is the list of the free countries:
Argentina
Australia
Austria
Azores
Bangladesh
Belgium
Bulgaria
Canada +Mobile
Canarie
Chile
China
China mobile
Colombia
Cyprus
Czech Republic
Denmark
Estonia
France
Germany
Greece
HongKong HongKong mobile
Hungary
Iceland
Ireland
Israel
Italy
Japan
Kazakhstan Almaty
Luxembourg
Malaysia
Mexico
Monaco
Netherlands
Norway
Panama
Peru
Poland
Portugal
PuertoRico
Romania
Russia
SanMarino
Serbia Montenegro
Singapore
Singapore mobile
Slovakia
Slovenia
South Korea
Spain
Sweden
Switzerland
Taiwan
Thailand
Thailand mobile
United Kingdom
USA +Mobile
Venezuela
But this option is only for qualified distributors and there is a possibility to be qualified only with a few clients.
Btw one can also earn good money with this concept !
To join for free: http://web2.telme.sg/cedel/index.php?option=mod_joinus
Christian
[email protected]
** VoipStunt reserves the right after a certain amount of SMS to start charging sms for the default rate. FREE SMS is available for users with Freedays.
anyone knows how many free sms can be sent to a free desination before they charge us?
xln said:
** VoipStunt reserves the right after a certain amount of SMS to start charging sms for the default rate. FREE SMS is available for users with Freedays.
anyone knows how many free sms can be sent to a free desination before they charge us?
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no, and that is in fact very annoying because sometimes I use differents programs of Betamax like Voipstunt, voipwise, voipbuster, etc...(for different "free" countries or free SMS) with every time 12,50 € to pay for only 3 month and sometimes, they charge me or change the prices without notice !!
And I stay with credit I have to use with other prices than the prices when I put the credit. And they never answer to your emails !
Hello People!
I've been trying to research whether or not it is possible to set up a SIP account so that I can call my Google Voice number and then using the voice prompt menu in Google Voice gain access to toll free telephone calls.
I want to do this via the Nexus S. Has anyone done this? If so did you make step by step instructions? I'd like to do the same.
Thank you very much!!!!
It is indeed possible, through a combination of Google Voice, SipGate, and SipSorcery. It is not very stable in my experience, however, and it also drains your battery rather quickly because you need to be constantly connected (PBXes does help, but adds one more possible point of failure). I honestly wouldn't recommend it, but I can help you set it up if you really want to try it.
@Some_Person, Thanks for the offer for assistance. I just came across this instruction manual:
http://www.labnol.org/software/get-usa-local-phone-number/18407/
Now when I want to try I can't do it over 3G. Apparently SIP on Nexus S only allows for Wifi....
I'll let you know what happens when I test tomorrow and I certainly will take you up on your offer if this don't work.
Thanks again and I appreciate your response!
... don't you guys think that your operator has been already considered situation like this ? using 2G/3G/4G network to do "online - voice chat" or IP phone call , which will make them loose a lot of money ...
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to Suomalainen , you are unable to do this in 3G , i think that's probably banned by your operator ... because i have seem experience ...
@Some_Person
I got a IPKall number. I now need a SIP provider that will allow me to place free outgoing & receive free incoming calls.
I guess once I have this then I need to re-edit IPKall with new settings.
BUT can Google Voice be used/edited so that incoming calls are routed to my IPKall number which then are routed to my SIP software?
Alot of the stuff I'm finding on the web simply doesn't work.
Thanks!
@qtwrk- What would you rather have? Money made from the voice side of the business OR money from the data side of the business. With all the apps out there people are burning more data using these apps and this is where the revenue stream is for operators. The voice side of the network is a " just nice to have" for most of them....
but ...
data cost and voice cost are very different
i haven't used any IP call software , so i don't really know (i would image IP call software like skype is very similar), but i do have some online voice chat software (because some of my friend who i want call can just sit before a computer and then we can talk , exactly like phone...) , 1 hour , taking 1 hour only needs 3 - 5 mb
by my current operator
500 mb = 8 euros/moth
talking 60 minutes = establishment 0.15 euros , 0.08 euros per minute
0.15 + 0.08*60 = 4.95 euros , plus 18% of Value added tax
5.84 euros ...
so , 8 euros can allow you talk about 1 hour and 20 minutes , or by using Internet , chatting about 100 hours .
if i were your operator , i would definitely have these applications prohibited
I don't want to take up anymore space with this issue. This thread was suppose to be for getting help setting up SIP on my Nexus S. Please start new thread to voice your opinion.
Thanks!
Suomalainen said:
Hello People!
I've been trying to research whether or not it is possible to set up a SIP account so that I can call my Google Voice number and then using the voice prompt menu in Google Voice gain access to toll free telephone calls.
I want to do this via the Nexus S. Has anyone done this? If so did you make step by step instructions? I'd like to do the same.
Thank you very much!!!!
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Have you looked at GrooVe IP? Dunno if it'll fit all your SIP needs but it integrates well with Google Voice outside of the US.
@Slonn- Now this looks like something real interesting. Let me give it a shot and report back how it went. Thanks! Much appreciated!!!
Suomalainen said:
I don't want to take up anymore space with this issue. This thread was suppose to be for getting help setting up SIP on my Nexus S. Please start new thread to voice your opinion.
Thanks!
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, okay , sorry about changing subject , good luck to you to find what you looking for
I've not tried it myself, but my co-workers GrooveIP+G Voice is the solution you are looking for. It's on sale in the Amazon App Store for $1.99 BTW.
Some complaints I've heard are that service latency is often an issue when on 2g/3g. Should be a good solution on Wifi at the house though I would imagine.
@The Gurgler - This is perfect. Got it installed and it works. This is indeed exactly what I was looking for!!!!
Thanks very much for pointing this app out to me.!!!!
P.S.-Let's just hope google voice to USA remains free next year....
Can i use GrooveIP since i am situated outside of USA ?
@Ibn Saeed - If you read the info about this app via the app market it clearly states that prior to purchasing GrooveIP the user needs to ensure they have a GV # and a gmail account. What this means is that you cannot move forward until you have obtained these two items FIRST. Then when these two pieces are collected you still need to install the plugin for GV into gmail so you got the U.S . dial pad appearing under chat on the left side of gmail window. The instructions say you even need to test it prior to app install and/or download.
Once you have satisfactorily obtained a GV # and a gmail account and did the GV plugin install then you can purchase the GrooveIP app. After that installation is a piece of cake.
I had in the beginning static and echos but then I adjusted the Echo Cancellation and Echo tail settings and things have been working thus far.
Also, you need a good friend to help you test the bluetooth. It works for me but you need to be wary of Mr. Bluetooth's feelings. Sometimes as call is ringing I need to turn it off then back on in order to work.
Also, dial pad is quite similar to the normal dial pad. I could see how one could mistakenly use one over the other.
I also noticed one call in the call log that was recorded as 00:00 long but I spoke for 15 minutes!
I use this over 3G 1MB plan and am amazed how well this works.
Pay attention to Google rate plans. It might be worthwhile having $20 in their account for those calls you might want to use their service when making.
Does anyone know of an app that uses internet connection for calling purposes?
I am on AT&T and have a limited minutes plan, and am not left with much at the end of the month.
There are such apps on other platforms like talkatone app in ios devices, which allow users to call using cellular data or wifi, thus not using the valuable minutes of the plan.
I was just wondering if anyone know about any such app on WP devices, or anyone interested in making one.
Thanks
Search for Govoice - it uses google voice.
Also Tango.me (it does video and voice and is also available to android and iphone although it is currently only phone to phone or phone to pc communication)
Thanks for replying,
I already use Govoice and tango. Govoice uses the google voice number, but makes the call through your cellular network which uses the minutes on your plan.
Tango on the other hand uses data or wifi to make the call which is what I want, but it can only call other tango users which is very limiting.
I want an app which dials whatever number I give it, and instead of using the cellular network, uses data or wifi.
I personally dont have access to ios or android device, but there is an app called "Talkatone" on both these platforms (i think, but am sure about ios) which calls every number in the directory using only data or wifi.
An app like that is what I am looking for.
Haven't tried this one but search the marketplace for mobilevoip . You have to use a headset with it and it's beta
Also MS confirmed Skype is coming soon
I use MobileVoiP, best program for me, because I am a customer of Poivy.
You can talk in almost every country for free
greetz