SM-G930A Disable System Update w/o Rooting - Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions and Answers

I've just gotten myself onto a Galaxy S7 for my carrier with Nougat installed. I happen to like the looks of this version and have no consideration to update to Android Oreo (8.0). But this looks to be a forced update. I have merely avoided this by just not connecting to wifi, however this makes me unable to use the samsung cloud without using mobile data to backup pictures and content. The only way I could perform disabling the update was through rooting the device, which I did not like having to do at all. It only brought complications to the devices run patterns etc.
As well I have also searched everywhere to find a way to disable the update service without rooting, even as far as Package Disabler Pro however it seems the developer was forced by samsung to disable this capability during the Note 7 Era. Even trying to use an Older Version of PDP failed because of the License Verification.
So I have come here to ask, Has anyone at all ever found a way to stop the update service from forcibly downloading the update when connected to wifi and forcing the device to update whatsoever, without Rooting the Device. Your knowledge and advice would be highly appreciated

ben70190 said:
I've just gotten myself onto a Galaxy S7 for my carrier with Nougat installed. I happen to like the looks of this version and have no consideration to update to Android Oreo (8.0). But this looks to be a forced update. I have merely avoided this by just not connecting to wifi, however this makes me unable to use the samsung cloud without using mobile data to backup pictures and content. The only way I could perform disabling the update was through rooting the device, which I did not like having to do at all. It only brought complications to the devices run patterns etc.
As well I have also searched everywhere to find a way to disable the update service without rooting, even as far as Package Disabler Pro however it seems the developer was forced by samsung to disable this capability during the Note 7 Era. Even trying to use an Older Version of PDP failed because of the License Verification.
So I have come here to ask, Has anyone at all ever found a way to stop the update service from forcibly downloading the update when connected to wifi and forcing the device to update whatsoever, without Rooting the Device. Your knowledge and advice would be highly appreciated
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Wow this is disappointing. I'm in the same position. I unintentionally tapped update vs, wait and now it asks me several times a day.
I didn't have any of these issues with my S5. Since when does samsung force their customers to update? Seems to me samsung still owns my phone after I paid for it. If I wanted this crap, I would have bought an apple. i can't believe everyone is ok with this? Not even a data toggle switch anymore. I had to use ADB to put this back. My S5 was able to multi-task and my S7 can't. Further my 5 can get on wifi faster. None of this should be possible.

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ADB my S7 said:
Wow this is disappointing. I'm in the same position. I unintentionally tapped update vs, wait and now it asks me several times a day.
I didn't have any of these issues with my S5. Since when does samsung force their customers to update? Seems to me samsung still owns my phone after I paid for it. If I wanted this crap, I would have bought an apple. i can't believe everyone is ok with this? Not even a data toggle switch anymore. I had to use ADB to put this back. My S5 was able to multi-task and my S7 can't. Further my 5 can get on wifi faster. None of this should be possible.
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I guess theres no solution to this then other than rooting the device sadly. I was forced to root it and I used the root method that requires no having to tweak the kernel so its been going pretty good for now. But yes indeed even my Galaxy S4 is faster than my s7 now in some cases. But the only thing I can see the issue with is now I hate having to restart my S7 when im using it because it takes like a minute or two to fully load up everything. Feels like im using a PC and not a phone

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[Q] Possible to save older app version file apk from non-rooted phone?

forgive my ignorance, heres some background info. Ive been using android for a long time but not very technically knowledgeable about the OS but I think its time i learn some stuff. Im far more knowledgeable than the average PC user about most hardware and software so I dont think it would be too hard to pick up some power user android tips/tricks. Only reason I havent done so yet is cause the stock version has always worked great for my needs so far but im starting to have some issues now. I fricking HATE forced OTA updates as they most often fubar my phone after they install. Ive never rooted, thought im starting to look into doing so as it may be beneficial to my needs. I currently have a samsung galaxy note 3 on verzion with unlimited data which i pretty much only use as a wifi hotspot device, upwards of 250 gig a month for about 6 months of the year to stream HD video TV shows and as my main internet source while i travel and a samsung galaxy note 4 on att with 30 gig a month data allowance which i use as my main mobile phone/tablet device needs. In my experience ATT sucks a fat one with very sporadic data speeds and successful call rates even with 4-5 bars of 4G LTE signal which varys from non existent to moderate at best wherever i go. Verizon is 2x as fast as atts top speeds consistently with no wavering in speeds anywhere and with equal signal verizion is always at least 2x faster than att wherever ive tested them so far. id throw the att at a brick wall and only use verizon except for the fact verizon has zero coverage where i live most of the time.
Anyways back to the main topic question, I have a DJI Inspire 1 quad copter and use my att samsung galaxy note 4 phone to view the camera as i fly and run the DJI Pilot app. I hate and do not want to use the updated app version as it removes features and adds unwanted restrictions and I was wondering if someone could tell me how I can copy the app apk file I think its called? from my phone to my pc to preserve my current version of the app and install it later to a different device or my same device after a factory reset if ever necessary. I dont not want to lose the current app version that im running now. Its since been updated on the google play store so you can no longer the the version im currently running from there. Is this possible without being rooted from a samsung galaxy note 4 running android version 5.0.1 on att? I may have the same app version installed on my note 3 on verizon running kit kat i think, and maybe even an older att note 2 running an even older android version, not sure which, but its on the OTA update that fubared the note 2 on att.
oh and one more question please, my note 3 on verizon has downloaded another OTA update and keeps asking me to install which i keep postponing cause i use foxfi for my hotspotting needs and am scared the OTA update will screw that ability up so i dont want to install it. Its working perfectly for what i want to use if for right now so no reason to update in my opinion. Is there any way to delete this OTA update file and get it to stop asking me to update every time i use the device?
any info appreciated, thanks a million!
1)Go settings >
About phone/system updates
Select options and select never update
2)or restrict back ground data in data settings
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If u want to back up your current app then u can easily do it wit any backup app...available in store..
Like -App backup and restore etc
Or u can use es Explorer there a option to backup apps...
And for restrict ur update. There may be a option to restrict update or check update in system update setting.. Or you can restrict background data for system updates...
Hope this helps
I've disabled them now but it's to late, it already downloaded and keeps asking to install. Any way to find and delete the file it wants to install?
SultanGris said:
I've disabled them now but it's to late, it already downloaded and keeps asking to install. Any way to find and delete the file it wants to install?
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May be clear data of system updates works
How do you do that?
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How do you do that?
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Go to settings >apps>All
Search software or system update nd clear data...
Maybe this works for you...
If not... Factory reset is the option..

What does one need to do to root a Verizon Note 5? Why hasn't it been rooted yet?

Hello friends,
I'm in the same boat as many of you -- I purchased several Note 5's new from Verizon and then learned that they are not readily rootable....which prevents me from using their full functionality. Irritating.
I have a decent amount of experience with software development/reverse engineering/breaking things/making things work...but I've never messed around with phone firmware before. Usually I connect directly to the hardware chips via JTAG or similar to dump/upload the modified images. I don't really want to crack these sealed phones open though... surely there must be a way to dump/image the phone via the data port? I've read that Note 5 for other carriers are rootable, so how does dumping/uploading bins work for them? What is different about Verizon's model? Are they requiring digitally signed bins? Also I've seen a few people mention Knox....if Knox is tripped does it blow a fuse or can it be reset?
Thx
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Samsung Knox gets tripped and effectively bricks the device the second it detects root. It blows a fuse. Dead phone.
If you have to ask this question then rooting is not something you need! =D Coming from rooting every phone for the past 5 years, I haven't had a need to root this phone. Granted there are a few things NOT working because of verizon nit picking hsit in the build. Fonts not working for one, nothing that is really a deal breaker. I def dont miss the flashing of builds every week/month, keeping things updated and waiting on developers. Google is smart enough to listen to its consumers and for the most part every new build of android has vast improvements and functionality.. rooting for the most part will be so that you can control the hardware and do whatever you want with your phone, which I believe that is how it should be...i ve stuck with verizon because of the quality of service they provide. Awesome speeds, damn near accessible everywhere, havent had a dropped call in YEARS. But from a tech standpoint, they are a bit ridiculous when it comes to their hardware. I hope they release a line of phones that are rootable and still keep a "protected" option for those who dont want phones that can be tampered with by rooting, security issues, etc.. who knows.. but i wouldnt hold your breath waiting on root for this phone.. best bet is the note 7 coming out and hope a root is found.. but, I imagine its going to just get harder and harder for developers with encryption and new securities..
DaRkL3AD3R said:
Samsung Knox gets tripped and effectively bricks the device the second it detects root. It blows a fuse. Dead phone.
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Nah it doesn't brick the phone! That's just to scare the crap out of people and make them not even want to risk it period!
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ars0n said:
If you have to ask this question then rooting is not something you need! =D Coming from rooting every phone for the past 5 years, I haven't had a need to root this phone. Granted there are a few things NOT working because of verizon nit picking hsit in the build. Fonts not working for one, nothing that is really a deal breaker. I def dont miss the flashing of builds every week/month, keeping things updated and waiting on developers. Google is smart enough to listen to its consumers and for the most part every new build of android has vast improvements and functionality.. rooting for the most part will be so that you can control the hardware and do whatever you want with your phone, which I believe that is how it should be...i ve stuck with verizon because of the quality of service they provide. Awesome speeds, damn near accessible everywhere, havent had a dropped call in YEARS. But from a tech standpoint, they are a bit ridiculous when it comes to their hardware. I hope they release a line of phones that are rootable and still keep a "protected" option for those who dont want phones that can be tampered with by rooting, security issues, etc.. who knows.. but i wouldnt hold your breath waiting on root for this phone.. best bet is the note 7 coming out and hope a root is found.. but, I imagine its going to just get harder and harder for developers with encryption and new securities..
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Lol.. I was gonna say hmm, what should one do... HmMmm ... How about read around the the Verizon thread?! Because all those questions have already been answered!
ars0n said:
If you have to ask this question then rooting is not something you need! =D Coming from rooting every phone for the past 5 years, I haven't had a need to root this phone. Granted there are a few things NOT working because of Verizon nit picking hsit in the build. Fonts not working for one, nothing that is really a deal breaker. I def don't miss the flashing of builds every week/month, keeping things updated and waiting on developers. Google is smart enough to listen to its consumers and for the most part every new build of android has vast improvements and functionality.. rooting for the most part will be so that you can control the hardware and do whatever you want with your phone, which I believe that is how it should be...i've stuck with Verizon because of the quality of service they provide. Awesome speeds, damn near accessible everywhere, haven't had a dropped call in YEARS. But from a tech standpoint, they are a bit ridiculous when it comes to their hardware. I hope they release a line of phones that are rootable and still keep a "protected" option for those who don't want phones that can be tampered with by rooting, security issues, etc.. who knows.. but i wouldn't hold your breath waiting on root for this phone.. best bet is the note 7 coming out and hope a root is found.. but, I imagine its going to just get harder and harder for developers with encryption and new securities..
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I understand and agree about the flashing and dealing with the bugs on new roms. All I want is the ability to delete apps I don't want. I know debloaters are out there and they work and that's great and thanks to their developers. I think we are owned the freedom to delete what we don't want. It's like the cable companies sticking us with shows we never want or watch.
pbman1953 said:
I understand and agree about the flashing and dealing with the bugs on new roms. All I want is the ability to delete apps I don't want. I know debloaters are out there and they work and that's great and thanks to their developers. I think we are owned the freedom to delete what we don't want. It's like the cable companies sticking us with shows we never want or watch.
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I used to feel that way. I used to root every phone I got (if I could) just so I could use Titanium backup to first disable apps and then if I had no problems, uninstall them. Bu with my Note 5 I've concluded it would be a waste of time, even if I could do it. I use Package Disabler Pro (as do many on this forum) and no, it doesn't actually delete apps. They are still there taking up space. but they don't run and unless you are critically short of space, the actual space they consume is minimal. My only complaint against Pakcage Disabler is that I wish it worked on my Asus tablet. but alas, it only woks on Samsung devices.
ratman6161 said:
I used to feel that way. I used to root every phone I got (if I could) just so I could use Titanium backup to first disable apps and then if I had no problems, uninstall them. Bu with my Note 5 I've concluded it would be a waste of time, even if I could do it. I use Package Disabler Pro (as do many on this forum) and no, it doesn't actually delete apps. They are still there taking up space. but they don't run and unless you are critically short of space, the actual space they consume is minimal. My only complaint against Pakcage Disabler is that I wish it worked on my Asus tablet. but alas, it only woks on Samsung devices.
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Has anyone compared Package Disabler to Debloater?
Yeah, Package Disabler is the way to go (IMO). You don't need a computer as with Debloater. Don't get me wrong, Debloater is great, but it's nice being able to disable apps on the go. Not to mention, Package Disabler allows you to export your lists of disabled apps to an XML file, so you can simply import the list back if you need to (say, after a factory reset). Just my thoughts.
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So I guess both are good. I wish there am was a place or apply tell you if you needed certain apps or not.
pbman1953 said:
So I guess both are good. I wish there am was a place or apply tell you if you needed certain apps or not.
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Has anyone Hurd about rooting on the Verizon note 5 I've been reading and can't find much, is it possible to root yet. Sorry if it's been asked I'm completely new to Verizon
[email protected] said:
Has anyone Hurd about rooting on the Verizon note 5 I've been reading and can't find much, is it possible to root yet. Sorry if it's been asked I'm completely new to Verizon
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It's not rooted yet. There is something in the works, but nothing yet. We haven't given up yet.
[email protected] said:
Has anyone Hurd about rooting on the Verizon note 5 I've been reading and can't find much, is it possible to root yet. Sorry if it's been asked I'm completely new to Verizon
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no root buddy if ure on mm mm requires bootloader unlock to root and between att and verizon they have the tightest locked bootloader of them all
i got rid of my note 5 but it was the first device that wasnt make or break over root like other posters said get s package disabler and ure good
TheMadScientist420 said:
no root buddy if ure on mm mm requires bootloader unlock to root and between att and verizon they have the tightest locked bootloader of them all
i got rid of my note 5 but it was the first device that wasnt make or break over root like other posters said get s package disabler and ure good
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What's a package disabler
[email protected] said:
What's a package disabler
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it disables all the bloatware on ure note 5 even without root saves loads of battery and speeds up the device in my opinion
this one works by being a device administrator and it lets u disable tons more stuff than in the standard application manager on the device
TheMadScientist420 said:
it disables all the bloatware on ure note 5 even without root saves loads of battery and speeds up the device in my opinion
this one works by being a device administrator and it lets u disable tons more stuff than in the standard application manager on the device
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Could you point me in the right direction to get it, and will that allow me to root the phone
[email protected] said:
Could you point me in the right direction to get it, and will that allow me to root the phone
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there is no root for the verizon version yet things always change if ure looking to root find another device.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...m6g1sybczeFvN8Nq0-ekxg&bvm=bv.144224172,d.eWE
this is where ive always gotten is from
TheMadScientist420 said:
there is no root for the verizon version yet things always change if ure looking to root find another device.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...m6g1sybczeFvN8Nq0-ekxg&bvm=bv.144224172,d.eWE
this is where ive always gotten is from
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Thank you ill try it out
I soft bricked my Note 5 and then had problems flashing with ODIN. After I was able to flash though, the screen briefly showed an unlocked padlock. Is that typical? Is the bootloader rendered insecure when you upgrade for a brief window?

Root or Update? Both or Neither?

I have a Galaxy S7 that was originally bought on the Cricket network (SM-G930AZ), but is now on the MetroPCS network. I was wondering if it was worth it to update my phone to Nougat? Also, is it possible yet to root this version? Which should I do first? Can someone give me links to tutorials if this is possible. I do know that I don't want to lose the fingerprint capability or the ability to use Samsung Pay, which I saw on a few forums was a downside to rooting. Has a workaround been found for this yet? I mostly want to root in order to delete bloatware and install Xposed to customize my phone. Also, being able to use Titanium Backup again would be amazing. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I was asking myself this exact same question.. so I tried both to see what each had to offer. Originally I rooted my phone running on Marshmallow and although it was really cool being able to run Xposed modules, change emjojis to iPhone style, and get rid of ads, the overall conclusion I came to was to not root and here's why:
- Phone was overheating while charging my phone and even running the simplest apps. Tried downloading some cooling apps to help and none were able to truly fix the problem.
- Battery was draining extremely fast. Tried downloading the top battery saving apps with root access, Greenify specifically, and none were able to really fix the issue completely.
- Major lag issues. Scrolling through the phone, opening apps, and specifically running snapchat, everything was pretty much in slow motion. Once again tried downloading apps to help with RAM management and other lag issues. None helped.
I finally came to the conclusion to just update to Nougat, which in itself was a pain since I had to manually update due to losing my OTA access. Overall I like stock Nougat more than Marshmallow but am still in the process of potentially finding a root that will run better on Nougat than it did on MM.
Best of luck mate!
I have the same problem with my S6. A cricket phone on metroPBS. With a base and number that I've never seen anywhere else in the internet unless I read my own threads.
Sm-g920aztus6cqb3
Now there are **********cqb2'So but no cqb3'so , anywhere. I can't belive it. 1q months I've looked and I want root but to afraid to try there's nothing out there
If anyone finds a solution please lmk
Can't you Odin att firmware¿ Then root?
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Unlocked Verizon Phone. Nougat 7.0. Want To Downgrade and root. A few questions.

I just bought a new unlocked Verizon G920V phone from eBay to use with my Verizon prepaid account. (Well actually the hardware version under About Phone lists it as G920V.07). I can't say for sure if Marshmallow or Nougat shipped on this phone but it's currently running Nougat. As soon as I got it and it connected to my home wifi it wanted to update so I decided (maybe like an idiot) to let it. It appeared to download a giant file and flash itself a new firmware. This leads me to believe that it maybe shipped with Marshmallow but it obviously now has Nougat on it.
FWIW, I've rooted my own phones and a couple of my wife's phones in the past, but I'm by no means an expert. I'm fairly technically inclined in other areas of technology, but when it came to rooting various phones it amounted to carefully researching (usually through this site) and simply following a set of steps. I've always been successful. Long story short, I'm kind-of confused as to whether or not I can root. Like I said, I'm a bit confused, but it would appear that not only is there no root for the S6 running Nougat, but I believe I read where someone mentioned that Verizon released a security patch that prevents any sort of downgrading. Right after getting cellular service transferred the phone wanted to do a security patch so I assume that I've now got that patch installed as well.
So, can I downgrade this phone and root? I don't care about marshmallow I'll go to version 5 (whatever wonky name that one is called) if I have to. I would really just like to get root on this phone. Mainly so I can block ads more effectively and try to milk more battery life out of this thing because the battery life is horrible in my opinion.
Also FWIW, the software build/baseband number is G920VVRS4DQE1 if that helps or matters.
Anyway, this long-time lurker but first-time poster thanks you in advance for any replies.
It's been a few days and no replies, but from the additional information I've found since posting, I'm thinking that root ain't gonna happen. At this point I don't think it's even possible to roll back to an earlier version. Oh well I'll just live with this phone for awhile. I really like the phone despite not being able to get root. I suppose I'll just live with ads.
You can go to Samsung apps, if you have a Samsung account and download there ad block app. That is what I am using. It under Galaxy apps that came with phone
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You actually can downgrade your firmware should you so desire. The following two threads have links to firmwares flashable via odin.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ve...20vvrs4dqd1-odin-nougat-7-0-firmware-t3597007
https://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s6/general/downgrade-6-0-1-to-5-1-1-t3489816
At this point I don't think you can downgrade any lower than the OK7 firmware.

Upgrading Galaxy Note 4 to Marshmallow. (Old carrier = Verizon, now Tracfone).

Hi,
I bought a Samsung Galaxy Note 4 phone that was previously used for Verizon. As part of the BYOP plan with Tracfone, I bought the CDMA SIM card kit and followed the procedure to use Tracfone as the carrier (the Verizon screen is still there when I boot up the phone, and some Verizon apps are still installed). This has been fine for a couple years. I've noticed the phone slowing down recently and did the normal measures to clear cache and free up space, but that didn't help, so I would like to update to the latest Android version, or at least the newest one this phone can handle, which I believe is Marshmallow. Currently I'm running Android 5.1.1 and when I go to "System updates" and check for a new one I get this message: "Your SAMSUNG SM-N910V is up to date. No update is necessary at this time." I believe this is due to the separation from Verizon, so I was wondering how to install this some other way, the easier the better. I've heard of Odin and Samsung Smart Switch, but just wanted to check with what other's have done.
Also, if there is something I can do to speed up my phone without the hassle of updating firmware, I'm open to that too. As an example, when I do a chrome search, there is a 10-15 second delay before it loads. My wi-fi is around 85 Mbps so that should be plenty fast enough. I seemed to notice the slow down after I installed Google Photos, so I've since uninstalled it, but it's still sluggish.
Thanks in advance!
Guys,
Do the issues I'm seeing look like something that could be fixed with a firmware update? I noticed it mostly in Chrome, but other apps take a while to load as well. They are just very slow at startup, but after 15 seconds or so the apps behave normally.
mrkevelev said:
Guys,
Do the issues I'm seeing look like something that could be fixed with a firmware update? I noticed it mostly in Chrome, but other apps take a while to load as well. They are just very slow at startup, but after 15 seconds or so the apps behave normally.
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I ended up using Odin and it seems to have fixed it!

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