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Z1 (brand unknown) is wrist watch phone with Android OS. It was first released in 4/2012 and it is Android 2.2.1. It has WiFi, AGPS, GSM/EDGE, 2 MP camera, mic, speaker, loudspeaker, capacitive touchscreen, display of 320x240, SDHC & SIM card slots etc.
As most Chinese phones it has SoC from MediaTek, MT6516 (armv5).
See my Czech review for photos: http://hodinky.blog.mobilmania.cz/2012/06/z1-hodinko-telefon-s-androidem/
Tweaks/tips for stock ROM (2.2.1)
Market/Google Play is missing in stock rom but it cam be added if you follow instructions on the page: http://www.ibuygou.com/p-z1_smart_android_2_2_watch_phone_gps_wifi_bluetooth_html-3638-usd.html (included in Clean ROM)
Default DPI is 120 however most controls are too small. Change it to 160 which will make all icons sharp. (included in Clean ROM)
Typing on tiny QWERTY soft keyboard is a pain, Flit Keyboard makes entering text much easier. (included in Clean ROM)
To enter engineering mode, dial *#*#8787#*#*
ADWLauncher EX works even better if you (see):
Disable all animations including scrolling homescreen
Disable dockbar and use swipe up instead (included in Clean ROM)
4x3 icon layout for home screen and 5x2 for drawer (included in Clean ROM)
Use something like Extended controls for toggles
Use No Lock if you don't need swipe to unlock feature.
Remove alternative Chinese markets and Chinese network account/sync providers from /system/app (included in Clean ROM)
Creating flashable dump
Use MT6516 BackUpTool for dumping your stock rom.
Use MTK_Rom_Studio_1.0.0a for converting dump into flashable format.
Flashing
Basically you need the driver: "MT6516_YuSu_USB_VCOM.inf" and flashing tool: "SP Flash Tool v1.1110". All tools can be found on the internet when searching for "MT6516 flash tools". The only necessary tools reuploaded can be found also here. (I'm not sure about the legality of these tools though.)
You have to use 32 bit Windows (I only tried XP in both VirtualBox and VMware but it could work with 32 bit Vista or 7).
Power off the watch, connect it directly to PC (no USB hub or extention cable) - new device will connect for few seconds - use it to install the driver. Unplug watch. (You may retry that few times because the watch disconnect within few seconds) Open flashing tool and select files to flash (I would recommend not to flash anything other than boot/recovery/system/data/logo), hit start and quickly connect the watch - flashing will start automatically.
Recovery
First build of ClockworkMod 5.0.2.8 seems to be working however all its features were not tested yet!
Recovery can be flashed with "SP Flash Tool" (use provided scatter file).
Rebooting to recovery from launched Android using "reboot recovery" works but I wasn't able to find working button shortcut to launch recovery directly from cold start. Please help me if you find a way!
Custom Clean ROM based on stock 2.2.1
Features
Removed alternative Chinese markets and Chinese (social) network accounts
Integration of Google apps (sync, Google Play, setup wizard etc)
DPI changed to 160 which makes the watch easier to control and the icons sharper
Preconfigured ADW Launcher, Flit keyboard
Includes root with Superuser, Busybox binaries
Minor clean-ups
So far this ROM doesn't include anything power user from XDA wouldn't be able to customize but this ROM is afford to save other users time with experiments.
Important notes:
Backing up your current ROM + data is highly recommended (use the above listed MT6516 BackUpTool)
The seller says you shouldn't do factory reset because of IMEI lost - I can't confirmed that - IMEI is kept even during factory resets so it doesn't seem to be stored in user data partition. BUT backup your current ROM anyway cause I might be wrong.
Clean ROM notes:
The first boot is slow. After the first boot, I recommend not touching the watch for 5-10 minutes because dalvik cache is rebuilding in the background and the setup wizard may lag a lot.
The default ADW launcher is configured to not have app drawer button - swipe up to open drawer
Known issue (to be fixed later): Because of DPI change - Bottom row of button in Dialer is smaller, however all buttons can be pressed
Known issue (to be fixed later): Because of DPI change - Superuser (root) confirmation dialog buttons aren't readable however the buttons are partly visible and can be pressed (press bottom left button to allow root acces)
Known issue (to be fixed later): Because of DPI change - There is small graphical glitch on the lock screen which however doesn't break anything
Flashing recovery is not needed at all. Just make sure you flash both partitions (it will erase all your data on the watch but not on SD). Follow instructions above on how to flash.
ROM download: http://www.multiupload.nl/3LHJ33CW95
or http://www.multiupload.nl/JK6NOATJ57
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CM ROM
WIP, first build of CyanogenMod 7 (2.3.7) booted so I continue testing/evaluating. So far I only used stock kernel but I have source for MT6516 kernel.
Notes: WiFi chip - MediaTek MT5921 - no open source driver
Currently on hold.
Proofs
Flit Keyboard
moneytoo said:
Typing on tiny QWERTY soft keyboard is a pain, Flit Keyboard makes entering text much easier.
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I actually have bought 3 Z1's and virtual keyboard is REALLY a pain..
Flit Keyboard makes entering text much easier ! !
Just Eight ( 8 ) >> Huge << Buttons Keyboard..
..that By Easily Sliding You Can Type:
>> All << Alphanumeric Characters And Symbols ! !
No More Accidentally Typing Wrong Characters ! !
Perfect 5..
(this Should Have Been THE Number One Android Keyboard..)
Thanks moneytoo ! !
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Z1 Android Watch-Phone
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z1_Android_Watch-Phone
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Ive been thinking about buying the watch to use as a mp3 player, would you recomend it?
Sent from my NWZ-Z1000Series using xda app-developers app
Yes, I'm plugging my website, but hey, it's relevant.
I've just reviewed this device at:
http://linuxslate.com/Review_Z1_Android-2.2-Watch.html
Everything in this thread has been helpful, I just wanted to add my 2 cents.
DPI at 160 looks great. Unfortunately many apps will not fit, including keyboard, phone, and superuser prompt. Either find alternate keyboard and set superuser to auto-grant, or switch back and forth between 120 and 160 as necessary.
I like No Lock, but I find the phone wake-locking all the time until I turned No Lock off. I also like the fact that the time is there in big letters on the lock screen. It's very suitable for its watch functionality.
I did a manual backup without rooting (No need for Z4 Root)
Download and unrar MT6516 BackUpTool, but do not install anything.
On the Linux/Mac box, open the gscript folder, and open back22.sh in editor, or viewer.
Connect the watch via USB, and connect via adb shell
Cut, paste and execute each line from the back22.sh file
up to and including the last dd command in the first section - in other words
Code:
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dd if=/dev/mtd/mtd11 of=/sdcard/backup_/expdb.img
Obviously, you don't do the comment lines.
exit the shell
Code:
exit
do:
Code:
adb remount
Install yaffs2image:
Code:
adb push <your_path_on_PC_to>/Install/BackUp/yaffs_back_2.2/gen/mkyaffs2image /system/bin/mkyaffs2image
Code:
adb shell chmod 4777 /system/bin/mkyaffs2image
(Again, the above is a cut and paste from the script)
Code:
adb remount
(for safety)
Code:
adb shell
Then cut and paste the remaining 3 mkyaffs2img commands.
Then:
Code:
exit
Copy the backup_ folder on the SD car to someplace safe.
If you want, you can remove mkyaffsimg:
Code:
adb remount
Code:
adb shell rm /system/bin/mkyaffs2image
Code:
adb remount
It's definitely more steps, but it leaves the system technically un-touched, un-rooted, and even returnable if you should have to.
Some more useful apps.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.coinsoft.android.orientcontrol
Orientation control to lock the screen in landscape mode; not free but worth it.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=itosisato.setsunasato.kokoroduyosato
Home button for soft home button in notification tray. Free.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.katecca.screenofflock
Off button in notification tray. Free.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.opera.mini.android
Opera mini has server side compression so makes best use of the slow 3g speed, but no multitouch so zooming is difficult.
m34n1ng said:
Ive been thinking about buying the watch to use as a mp3 player, would you recomend it?
Sent from my NWZ-Z1000Series using xda app-developers app
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It can be done, but the MotoActv might be better, because the motoactv has a headphone jack so you can use any headphones you want. On the Z1, you have to use bluetooth headphones or a bluetooth headphone adapter.
I just ordered one of these last week, should have arrived today ... glad to see this exists!
Other than configuration/display-size issues, does everything work, i.e. all hardware? I noticed you had a note about the Wifi driver not being open source, but I assume that more effects if you try the MT6516 kernel. Even if it's a closed binary, I assume you could still load it and use it though. I'm not expecting any leaps and bounds in the kernel department.
As for CWM, is any part of it executed at cold boot? If so, I imagine you'd need to implement some kind of timeout menu that could optionally enter recovery before booting the watch. This is similar to what was implemented on the Kindle Fire which also doesn't have a normal stock recovery mode.
I assume you're still evaluating CM7 so you're not ready to distribute it ... but I do hope to see more from you soon, especially a HOWTO and download links!
I spent many nights trying to make GSM or WiFi working. Except few tweaks I only got the modem to start but nothing more. I have no experience with porting of binary drivers and this device has so many of them. Radio/modem and kernel modules - there are no problems with them but there are just too many dependencies on proprietary libs even from standard android native binaries.
So I'm giving up. At least for now cause I just don't have enough knowledge.
I consider making custom rom based on stock Android but I don't know if there would be any demand. Proper integration of Google apps, Chinese apps/account providers removed, tweaked launcher/drawer settings, tweaked global dpi/dpi of apps that not fit...
To have at least something, I give you very simple app "Z1 Backlight Toggle" apk (attached in 1st post) which can turn off completely display backlight. (Needs root) I use it on my bike when I have navigation running all the time cause it indeed saves battery and backlight isn't needed at all under direct sunlight, the display is readable the same.
moneytoo said:
I spent many nights trying to make GSM or WiFi working. Except few tweaks I only got the modem to start but nothing more. I have no experience with porting of binary drivers and this device has so many of them. Radio/modem and kernel modules - there are no problems with them but there are just too many dependencies on proprietary libs even from standard android native binaries.
So I'm giving up. At least for now cause I just don't have enough knowledge.
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That's fine, I understand how frustrating these things can be. But still, can you post information about how to backup / restore the firmware and how to flash a custom ROM? I might try playing with it myself sometime and at least having the knowledge would enable further experimentation.
WTF!!!! a wrist phone with Android OS.... This is so freaking cool!!! :thumbup:
Awesome......
Sent from my GT-S7500 using xda premium
moneytoo said:
I spent many nights trying to make GSM or WiFi working. Except few tweaks I only got the modem to start but nothing more. I have no experience with porting of binary drivers and this device has so many of them. Radio/modem and kernel modules - there are no problems with them but there are just too many dependencies on proprietary libs even from standard android native binaries.
So I'm giving up. At least for now cause I just don't have enough knowledge.
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I have an idea ... if we can get the MTK6516 kernel to build and boot, that's one step. If we can then get Android 2.2 stock to build, and then compare it against an image of the Z1's file system, we should, in theory, be able to identify all the unique areas of the watch's Android setup. If we at least know how to build an identical watch Android from source we should be able to extend that into making Cyanogen Mod work ... or something else. I think it's worth a shot anyway!
Also for an identical kernel, there shouldn't be any need to "port" binary drivers ... ideally they're built-in or load as modules, same as any other drivers.
I consider making custom rom based on stock Android but I don't know if there would be any demand.
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You're probably right there will be very limited demand. So I ask again, if you can at least post steps about reflashing the watch, I'll give it my best shot. I just want to be sure I can restore the watch after messing around with it. Which I'm guessing you were able to since you didn't claim any permanent damage. It seems it should be able to go into a factory restore mode which I hope will override any messed up systems.
lokeshsaini94 said:
WTF!!!! a wrist phone with Android OS.... This is so freaking cool!!! :thumbup:
Awesome......
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It really is neat. Kind of limited, but really neat. I think if we can get any amount of control over the kernel and Android version, we can really extend the abilities of the watch. It just needs a chance...
southbird said:
I have an idea ... if we can get the MTK6516 kernel to build and boot, that's one step. If we can then get Android 2.2 stock to build, and then compare it against an image of the Z1's file system, we should, in theory, be able to identify all the unique areas of the watch's Android setup. If we at least know how to build an identical watch Android from source we should be able to extend that into making Cyanogen Mod work ... or something else. I think it's worth a shot anyway!
Also for an identical kernel, there shouldn't be any need to "port" binary drivers ... ideally they're built-in or load as modules, same as any other drivers.
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In my opinion there's no problem with kernel, modules or libraries, we can just reuse them. The real issue I think is native android binaries such as wpa_supplicant or rild. We can either use (original) already built binaries or build new ones - but this is the problem... Original binaries depend on proprietary libraries so they "do something" important with devices. Newly build binaries just don't have that unknown functionality. Yes, reusing stock binaries might work for 2.2 but my only target so far was 2.3 since that would be real benefit for us.
southbird said:
So I ask again, if you can at least post steps about reflashing the watch, I'll give it my best shot.
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Have a look here: http://bm-smartphone-reviews.blogspot.cz/2011/02/mtk-hd2-hd9-flashing-tutorial.html
Basically you need the driver: "MT6516_YuSu_USB_VCOM.inf" and flashing tool: "SP Flash Tool v1.1110". You have to use 32 bit Windows (I only tried XP in both VirtualBox and VMware but it could work with 32 bit Vista or 7 as well).
Power off the watch, connect it directly to PC (no USB hub or extention cable) - new device will connect for few seconds - use it to install the driver. Unplug watch. Open flashing tool and select files to flash (I would recommend not to flash anything other than boot/recovery/system/data/logo), hit start and quickly connect the watch - flashing will start automatically.
moneytoo said:
To have at least something, I give you very simple app "Z1 Backlight Toggle" apk (attached in 1st post) which can turn off completely display backlight. (Needs root) I use it on my bike when I have navigation running all the time cause it indeed saves battery and backlight isn't needed at all under direct sunlight, the display is readable the same.
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Which navigation software are you using?
adthor said:
Which navigation software are you using?
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No idea what he's using, but I'll say that Sygic worked when NOT navigating (doing a route caused it to force close, I'm guessing possibly out of memory??) Using OsmAnd works pretty well ... of course, it's Open Street Map with all the usual limitations.
adthor said:
Which navigation software are you using?
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I use RMaps (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.robert.maps&hl=en) with collection of offline maps and prepared tracks for navigation.
southbird said:
No idea what he's using,
but I'll say that Sygic worked when NOT navigating
(doing a route caused it to force close, I'm guessing possibly out of memory??)
Using OsmAnd works pretty well ... of course, it's Open Street Map
with all the usual limitations.
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Sygic 10 works nice with Z1 using 3D maps.
Sygic 12 works nice with Z1 using 2D maps.
When attempting to navigate Sygic 12 with 3D maps enabled,
the Sygic 12 crashes and Z1 returns to Home screen.
Correction..
Sygic 12 works nice with Z1 using 3D maps
only when Autozoom is turned off:
Settings > Map > Autozoom [untick]
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I consider making custom rom based on stock Android but I don't know if there would be any demand. Proper integration of Google apps, Chinese apps/account providers removed, tweaked launcher/drawer settings, tweaked global dpi/dpi of apps that not fit...
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That is exactly what needs to be done! If porting the binaries is not possible at the moment, why not go ahead with building with stock android, with proper google account and apps, and removing the chinese accounts.
Once you have tweaked launcher/drawer, tweaked dpi of apps that not fit etc done, it would be almost as good as running CM7. Any improvement would be a big improvement
I sincerely hope that you continue development, the demand for a stock ROM is sure to come as the device becomes more popular, as of now, there is nobody developing for Z1, that i know of.
apurvasrishti said:
That is exactly what needs to be done! If porting the binaries is not possible at the moment, why not go ahead with building with stock android, with proper google account and apps, and removing the chinese accounts.
Once you have tweaked launcher/drawer, tweaked dpi of apps that not fit etc done, it would be almost as good as running CM7. Any improvement would be a big improvement
I sincerely hope that you continue development, the demand for a stock ROM is sure to come as the device becomes more popular, as of now, there is nobody developing for Z1, that i know of.
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I started cooking custom ROM based on the stock two days ago and I'm very happy with it. Proper integration of setup wizard, google apps, keyboard, dpi, orientation, better preconfigured launcher, working voice search etc.
Hey everyone,
Recently purchased a thunderbird 4s and have had great joy rooting and flashing the phone with various ROMS from across various forums and youtube sites(mayiandjay).
I thought I would start this start this thread due to the lack of English information regarding this fantastic iphone 4s clone and ROM information around the globe. Most is in chinese along with a russian forum but there is little else in english.
I have flashed them all and this is a guide for English users to participate in and add feedback and hints/tips to various newer ROMS.
I have ascertained via china- phone forum russia (in russian) that goophone release newer ROM'S every month or so.
The latest ROM titled GOOPHONE-Y5-1001-F-002 is the best for this phone and includes importantly the proximity sensor re calibrator under settings/general/accessibility/display. Importantly, whenever you flash the ROM'S via clockwork recovery and boot into the ilauncher screen you must always recalibrate this proximity sensor otherwise when you take/make a call the phone goes blank screen and is basically stuffed.
I have tried many roms including:
- 0805(which was very very good my reference for me but lacked newer functionality including camera operation via lockscreen and many other newer functions),
- mayiandjay,(has bugs including proximity failure in display)
- tician and gstyle (also has the same bug as mayiandjay)
If you have bought a new thunderbird 4s (and yes the screen is much brighter exactly the same as iphone 4s i saw in apple store) then you must do the following to get it up to full potential but be **WARNED** there are risks attached with this including having to open up the unit requiring a pentalobe screwdriver and sliding the cover off to de-solder red/black battery terminal wires if your flash goes wrong. This is the only way to get back in to CWM if a flash goes wrong.
1. Follow the guide here -->http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1729056 (thnx you mylove299 you are genius for posting that thread)
2. Once flashed from post 3 download the newest ROM for Y5 here --->http://www.mediafire.com/?mn2w39f5ocfdpxk and once downloaded use usb to transfer the zip to your root sd card
3. Now get into reboot recovery mode.
4. To do this turn off phone
5. Then hold power and - button together and wait to feel the vibration. Once felt quickly take your fingers off - button and power button.
6. You should now see bottom left corner of screen recovery mode
7. Follow the guide in chinese on how to flash your zip. There is a guide for CWM called IOS_recovery_2.0.1_(chinese).pdf and is available here: ---> http://www.dkmdesign.dk/?page_id=9
8. Basically, using this chinese-> english guide for CWM you follow this order a) clear the cache partition; b)clear data restore factory settings; c) apply zip from sd card; d) scroll one down and hit eneter you should be in root of your sd card where you put the zip before; e) apply update and that's it
9. Once the flash is done which take about 30 or so seconds the new ROM is now ready and all you have to do is go down to bottom hit back key until the start screen and you should be highlighting the first option in CWM and hit enter and bingo reboot
Once the reboot is done you will boot-up into the new rom. This new rom is fantastic gives you the camera option on lockscreen and also has a round home button which gives you quick access to 3G /wifi and other shortcuts. You can place this little icon anywhere on your homepage.
Once this is all done then you have to obtain g-apps from here: -->http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1729056 and Extract Go_app.zip then run installG_Apps.bat, G-app will be install then run install_App.bat to install other apps, your phone will reboot. (Thnx mylove299)
and then that's it your done you will see the new apps for play and other things on your homescreen which you can modify if in chinese just hold the icon with your finger until it starts shaking and then press the icon once and you should see options to change title/icon etc I basically changed the chinese titles to english.
In this new ROM the compass now work (0805 ROM had bugs) auto-rotate work also and functionality is awesome. There is also a nifty chinese icon program in this rom which monitors your 3G usage and i can explain how to set this up if you have a monthly allowance but I will leave that to later. Also, I have an iphonewallper.apk which i modified and I will explain how to port that across to system/app using root explorer and this way you can modify your homescreen wallpaper to newer images along with your home screen.
For now, that's it but do post/update it if you have bugs/issues or anything else to add. Remember this is the Thunderbird 4s and is exactly the same as goophone Y5 expect better screen hehehe . I will be hardware modifying the battery soon (thnx mayandjay for guide on youtube to iphone 4s 1430mah version) along with a future mod on the camera and will install an iphone 4s camera to see if it improves it which I think it will, cause the one in there now is very poor but ok)
Hope you enjoy this post and I thought I would give something back to all the hard work of programmers/engineers across the world.
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Ok can add some further feedback...
* you need to set the screen to lcd density 326 to maximize the quality of imaging as this is a retina screen. To do this once you have installed google play go into market and download excellent free app called lcd resolution. Once installed set density to 326 exactly as this is correct density for this retina screen. You can also tick apply on reboot so you can it have it permanently done in the build.prop file.
*** May want to scratch the above** found 320 is the best and lock screen swipe was a little out of wack but this is now fixed with 320 dpi.
* You may want to uninstall an app which has a swirl arrow on it. This app installs a usage meter and also a dialer and sms app which is in chinese and confilcts with original apps. Definitely recommend to uninstall.
* You can add various apps via other ROM's go into system/apps of these zips copy apk files onto your sd card and install them via root explorer
Ok some further updates..
* Found a nifty tip... if you want flash on phone to work momentarily in darkness...hit the home button front screen will light up and hold either + or - button for a second or too and rear flash will light up...very kewl..
* I have also disabled the notifications pop up. I prefer to turn my Thunderbird 4s on and see on screen what I have missed. Previously with notifications on it interferes with various functionality of the phone.
* if your GPS is slow or does not work remove backcover, and re-solder the red and black battery wires to main-board. Also move these wires away from the main-board as this has helped me get a lock within 15sec of turning on my various gps app's.
* I have also installed adw launcher with apex ICS theme... between them I can launch the ICS theme and ilauncher(default) and people are amazed..
My intention is to go into Apple store and say I bought this and look no itunes work but everything else works..record on youtube and then upload heheheheh will be funny...
thx for your hints! Just one more question:
I can flash the rom, but when restarting it gives me two flickering lines on the bottom of the screen. I can load roms up to 0912. But even the modded rom from mayiandjay shows this behavior. Any idea?
the facebook app is not working for me. It just states "loading" on the main screen, also when loading profiles or certain pages. Notifications and messages work though...same for you?
thx for sharing your ideas,
jo
jodo01 said:
thx for your hints! Just one more question:
I can flash the rom, but when restarting it gives me two flickering lines on the bottom of the screen. I can load roms up to 0912. But even the modded rom from mayiandjay shows this behavior. Any idea?
the facebook app is not working for me. It just states "loading" on the main screen, also when loading profiles or certain pages. Notifications and messages work though...same for you?
thx for sharing your ideas,
jo
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Yes the flickering is quite normal and I did not see it on ROM 0805 goophone Y5 version.
It seems the mayiandjay rom and above have this weird flickering made worst when putting the phone into landscape mode. Seems to only do it with web-scrolling and youtube. I am thinking they don't use the hardware correctly....not sure..
Unless you mean something else completely different to what I described above?
I don't use the facebook app so can't really comment. I am curious though can someone post a link to goophone ROM versions all of them and the current release versions. That would be awesome..
Just an update ROM 1013 has been released for a while now.
Will be upgrading to it soon. I have found the links to the latest ROMS for goophone Y5/Thunderbird 4s.
Stay tuned
Thanks for your answer. The flickering starts for me right from the white apple logo at boot, even within recovery.Only one or two lines. They disappear when rolling back to 0912. What I did: I've taken 1013, unzipped and copied the system folder to the unzipped 0913. Then zipping again, et voilá - features from 1013 w/o flickering
Concerning facebook: I think that is due to missing AOSP browser, but I'm not sure. I was not able to install it via root explorer or even adb.
jodo01 said:
Thanks for your answer. The flickering starts for me right from the white apple logo at boot, even within recovery.Only one or two lines. They disappear when rolling back to 0912. What I did: I've taken 1013, unzipped and copied the system folder to the unzipped 0913. Then zipping again, et voilá - features from 1013 w/o flickering
Concerning facebook: I think that is due to missing AOSP browser, but I'm not sure. I was not able to install it via root explorer or even adb.
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Interesting... thank You for your feedback..
I have discovered another issue that the SMS app sometimes the sms's will continue to beep unless I open the folder.
Seems to lag when it starts to get full....
Time to flash ROM and test your feedback ..
Ok trying your method brought back issues of no auto-rotate on screen same issue as in 0912 ROM.
Will now use 1013 ROM and provide feedback.
Update feedback..
1013 all working well. No issues to report auto rotate works and phone is much more faster/zippier.
For now 1013 is the latest and greatest...
The 1013 ROM has improved the following:
* Battery life is much improved
* reception is more stable
* voice quality on call is very clear and crisp
* audio quality via music player is outstanding even better than my samsung galaxy s
* Menu speed and free memory with ilauncher is much better now ( is zippier now than before)
* no more lag with SMS
* There is still some minor flicker but hardly noticeable and much much less than before with 1001 ROM
* Camera is improved colours are more natural and correct
* If anyone has issues with GPS you may need to resolder the red and black cables back to mainboard. Mine was poor only use 3 satellites when it can see 12. Now after resolder(careful it is very thin wire) the GPS gets lock in 15~20sec and I use 9/12 satellites.
The 1013 ROM is simply fantastic. ENjoy
Hi Guys,
i also own a goophone y5 since 2 days now and i am very interested to find a ROM thats imitates iphone as well as possibel.
i currently tried these roms:
- GOOPHONE-Y5-0711-f-001
- GOOPHONE-Y5-0815-01-GF-F-IL-002
- GOOPHONE-Y5-1001-F-002
- REX_V3
i found REX_V3 + (a sortet amount of) G_apps as the best combination of functionality, stability and look+feel. i'm close to start cooking my own rom, because all roms have an issues that are nogo! i'll post a review of these roms a soon as possible for you all here and will share my experience with them. meanwhile i'm trying to combine a rom out of them all that fullfills the following points:
- stability
- functionality
- look+feel (as close as possible to iphone)
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where can i get 1013 ROM from? i would realy like to test and compare this one, too.
I got the 1013 ROM from goophone.hk website. I can assure you I don't speak Cantonese/Mandarine but I managed to get on there and find the ROM.
The 1013 is very stable and eveything I said in my previous post. Will stay with it for a long time. Battery life is amazing now...and yes I also used many ROM's. The g-apps is essential along with this rom. I tried to get 1021 ROM but I need password....no go 4 now..
Hi xlr8me,
dunno how you managed to get it from that site. i'm trying to find anything on that site using google website translation, but with no success
may you have a direkt link for me? that would realy be useful. Thank you.
Hint: try "goophone.hk" as password. i've read it on several sites that they use this one.
here for everybody (i finaly made it) direct links to the last two ROMs:
ROM 1013:
http://115.239.249.24/down/Y5-zn-f-...hk=14e5086d14f219c82b23772cb64bb18f-174000334
ROM 1022:
http://115.239.249.27/down/Y5新摄像头10...hk=3df4a2c1345c210a7fefe29c493a16ef-174027862
happy downloading & flashing
ROM 1022 contains another .zip file inside which is version 1021. this version requires a password. "goophone.hk" (and some more password i tried) doesn't work as password
even so, i tried to use GPS with 1013 and many versions before, but it doesn't work. did anybody get GPS working on goophone y5? if so, how did you do that?
location via Edge or 3G doesn't work as well.
does anybody know how to modify a rom to change thwe language? it would even be nice to know how to change the language of apps.
i think it's quiet easy to do. it's only .zip file content and .apk file which can be modified with a java editor.
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ROM 1022 contains another .zip file inside which is version 1021. this version requires a password. "goophone.hk" (and some more password i tried) doesn't work as password
even so, i tried to use GPS with 1013 and many versions before, but it doesn't work. did anybody get GPS working on goophone y5? if so, how did you do that?
location via Edge or 3G doesn't work as well.
does anybody know how to modify a rom to change thwe language? it would even be nice to know how to change the language of apps.
i think it's quiet easy to do. it's only .zip file content and .apk file which can be modified with a java editor.
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Yes GPS works. Make sure you have GPS satellites and A-GPS ticked with google (NOT nokia) inside of A-GPS settings.
It works but not as super fast as perhaps other phones. Just be patient.
The language is changed inside the settings. Changing the language of apps is a challenge so don't expect anything easy there.
Not sure whether to test 1022. Anyone know what's new with this ROM?
Anyone got a link to the above files especially 1022? It says error...
Thank you for your tips. But i already tried/checks all this
Here's where i found the files. Dunno why the direct links don't work anymore. Try this side instead: http://www.400gb.com/u/582581/1627896
1. klick the rom you like from the list
2. enter the shown number into the text field and press the big, fat, green button below
3. on the next site there's a short description of the rom and below there's a table of links. 2 rows, 3 links in a row. choose the first link in the second row
4. you can download the file
1022 has got a password in it that i don't know.
1013 has no password and can be installed in the odenary way.
Thnx dude..
Yeah just as I thought password protected...
Just a tip for anyone get a bumper preferably silicone for your thunderbird/goophone Y5.
It has tremendously improved the GPS reception as I was using it naked before.
Also forget using GPS with Aluminium case it won't work...it reduced GPS by about -6~-12dB and no good.
Guys, just a quick question.
My Safari(boat mini browser) won't save the far zoom for page settings. Any ideas how to fix this?
It keeps resorting back to medium zoom.
New fw out
Y5-12-11-20（老机）解决红屏IOS6.0.1.zip
Any ideas what it does? I am downloading it now
Not sure how many of you are aware, but there is a completely different user interface built into the Note5 that's hidden. I thought maybe some of you might like to check it out just for fun. It allows you to place widgets and apps on the lockscreen and has a bunch of cool lockscreen effects. Also, the "notifications panel" and the "recents" page are totally different, as well as many other interesting features. I added some screenshots for you guys to check out in this post.
Here are the steps to activating it:
1) First, anytime you're playing around with the SystemUI, even if it's a built in feature, it's a good idea to do a full system backup in TWRP. Not necessary, but recommended.
2) Next, you will need to have the Galaxy Apps store installed on your device. If you happened to have deleted it like I did, then I've attached the APK to this post for anyone that needs to reinstall it.
3) Open the Galaxy Apps store and update it if/when it prompts you.
4) Once the store has loaded, search for the words "Good Lock". Click on the app and click "Update", then "Install" and reboot the device when it prompts you.
(This is the hidden SystemUI that you already have on your device, but it needs the current update to work.)
5) Once rebooted into the new SystemUI, it will begin walking you through all of your new customization options. You can change any of these anytime you want by opening the "Good Lock" app in your applications list.
NOTE: If you decide that you want to deactivate the alternate SystemUI at any point, then you can just open up the "Good Lock" app and click on "Uninstall" too. You can also uninstall the Galaxy Apps store at any time and features like the new "Recents" page, if you don't like it, can be toggled off in the app as well.
Anyhow, I hope you guys have some fun with this. I'm trying it out for awhile just for kicks. Be sure to let everyone know what you thought of the new SystemUI in the comments too!
Just installed this running N5 Express ROM with no issues yet. Really like being able to have Tasker widget shortcuts on the lockscreen.
catchjeff said:
Just installed this running N5 Express ROM with no issues yet. Really like being able to have Tasker widget shortcuts on the lockscreen.
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That's a really good idea. Been trying to think of a more useful widget to use on the lock screen. So far I've only added a fancy clock/weather widget. [emoji14] Maybe I'll give it a try.
Cool cant wait to try it out!
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For this you dont need a root or twrp its official from samsung
mirketos said:
For this you dont need a root or twrp its official from samsung
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TWRP is mentioned for backing up your current configuration of TouchWiz(and your device in general) if you can before using Good Lock in case anything goes wrong. Obviously backing up your device is never required, but definitely always recommended when altering the system in any way, regardless of where it comes from. It's important to understand that Good Lock isn't just some Samsung app in the app store or just another launcher that changes the home screen, apps page, etc. It tweaks the system ui itself, including the look and function of the notifications panel, lock screen capabilities and more. It's true that you can just revert back to TW whenever you want pretty easily from within Good Lock, but the process isn't perfect. In fact, I myself applied it and reverted back only 2 times and the second time something went terribly wrong during the reversion and the system halted and it would no longer boot after that, so I had to restore a previous backup which I was glad to have had. All the data that I hadn't recently backed up though was of course lost, so yes...a TWRP backup is recommended when using Good Lock.
Also worth mentioning is the fact that if you're not running a compatible version of the stock firmware or at least a compatible TouchWiz rom, it will try to prevent you from installing it by not showing it in an app store search or by blocking access to the app's page(if you're following a link) in the Galaxy Apps store. For instance, it was there when I was on stock Marshmallow, but does not allow me to access it on stock Nougat. Instead I get error messages saying the app is not supported on my device when trying to load the Good Lock page.
Here is the link btw in case anyone can't find Good Lock in a search and wants to check if it can be used on their device. If it shows it, then it's compatible, if it doesn't then it's likely not. Just open the link in a mobile browser and click "OK" if prompted.
https://apps.samsung.com/jupiter/appquery/appDetail.as?appId=com.android.systemui
bogarty said:
TWRP is mentioned for backing up your current configuration of TouchWiz(and your device in general) if you can before using Good Lock in case anything goes wrong. Obviously backing up your device is never required, but definitely always recommended when altering the system in any way, regardless of where it comes from. It's important to understand that Good Lock isn't just some Samsung app in the app store or just another launcher that changes the home screen, apps page, etc. It tweaks the system ui itself, including the look and function of the notifications panel, lock screen capabilities and more. It's true that you can just revert back to TW whenever you want pretty easily from within Good Lock, but the process isn't perfect. In fact, I myself applied it and reverted back only 2 times and the second time something went terribly wrong during the reversion and the system halted and it would no longer boot after that, so I had to restore a previous backup which I was glad to have had. All the data that I hadn't recently backed up though was of course lost, so yes...a TWRP backup is recommended when using Good Lock.
Also worth mentioning is the fact that if you're not running a compatible version of the stock firmware or at least a compatible TouchWiz rom, it will try to prevent you from installing it by not showing it in an app store search or by blocking access to the app's page(if you're following a link) in the Galaxy Apps store. For instance, it was there when I was on stock Marshmallow, but does not allow me to access it on stock Nougat. Instead I get error messages saying the app is not supported on my device when trying to load the Good Lock page.
Here is the link btw in case anyone can't find Good Lock in a search and wants to check if it can be used on their device. If it shows it, then it's compatible, if it doesn't then it's likely not. Just open the link in a mobile browser and click "OK" if prompted.
https://apps.samsung.com/jupiter/appquery/appDetail.as?appId=com.android.systemui
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Ok! Haha!! You dont need a make backup or something IT'S OFFICIAL YOU FOOL MAN
mirketos said:
Ok! Haha!! You dont need a make backup or something IT'S OFFICIAL YOU FOOL MAN
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WTF dude? Seriously. Stop being an ass and actually read what I wrote. It's the least you can do after I typed all that out. You're not helping anyone by TROLLING this thread and repeatedly mentioning something so extremely redundant. If you don't want to backup then don't backup. I clearly said that it was obviously not required to do a backup and that I was only recommending to do it because I lost data and couldn't boot after selecting the option to revert back one time. Stop wasting people's time with your pointless comments. NOWHERE does it say in my post that making a backup is Required, so get over yourself. Either stop being a destructive ass or go and troll someone else! Your negative comments are not welcome here.
I got the Mate 20 X from Italy, delivered two weeks after order on November 12 for € 829, VAT and 2-years warranty included. It is a nice silver device 6/128 (don’t need more memory). My first hands-on impression? I was shocked.
I had pure Chinese phones before (Huawei and Lenovo) and I know how to deal with them. That wasn’t what upset me. And it wasn’t EMUI either, I like some of its functionality and I know how to customize it.
But my previous phone was Mate 10 pro (international, not Chinese), which really works well and comparison with a newcomer is what really shocked me. The EVR_AL00 came slow and clumsy with those big fat letters and ugly ios-like icons on the screen. I tried to improve the look with increasing the smallest width in the developer options, but original resolution came back with every reset.
So what I did first, is factory reset (I usually perform it on every new phone). I lost Google Play but I didn’t care, I intended to install and adjust Google apps anyway.
And then I started to customize the phone. Basically, it means “dechinezed” and “deiosinezed” it and make it usable for my purposes as the daily driver. Eventually, I succeeded and like before I don’t regret that I bought the Chinese phone as I never regretted before. I believe that my customization demands would request almost the same amount of work and effort with the “international” version.
And with “dechinezed” I don’t mean to be impolite, actually, I like some of the features of China phones, some of them after years comes to western phones as well (night sight, close all apps etc). I just prefer the more Android look of the phone (even more than currently, Google delivers).
The actual status of my phone is as follows:
In the beginning, when I started phone manager, the performance never exceeded 69%. It seems that later it adapted and healed itself (maybe with help of AI) and now performance is usually over 90, close to 100% and the phone suddenly becomes snappy and smooth, slightly better than Mate 10 pro. As expected, the battery life is due to its capacity and with my way of use it could easily survive two days. I don’t have exact data on SOT and other parameters of the battery performance yet. By adjusting the text and display size (both too small) under settings/display the phone gets a nicer look and more usable size of applications.
I had decided to keep EMUI launcher before I learned that the phone has a hard time with other launchers. I bought Nova Prime once, I consider it a great launcher, maybe the best, but even on my previous phone I used EMUI. The reason is in its features that I don’t want to sacrifice: dedicated Accuweather, swype gestures (now with 9), dark mode. I was never a fan of ios-like white themes, I always considered that Android’s color is black. Besides, what even Google admits now (and started to return black mode into its apps accordingly), the white mode consumes a lot more energy (especially with AMOLED). What is yet to admit is that it burns your eyes.
So, what I have now, is a fully customized EVR_AL00 that perfectly suits my needs. That means that it looks like Android, works like Android and behaves like Android. I replaced most Chinese apps with Google’s ones, installed additional that I use and tune the system. With tuning the system I mean screen adjustment and customization. Under Settings/Display/text and display size, I changed both values to small and thus converted ugly appearance of the display into something that suits size and purpose of the phone. I replaced IOS icons with the Android ones. Adjusted notifications and permissions for each application.
First I was thinking about keeping some Chinese apps that I considered useful, like Sky Mobile and a few others. But trying them I found out that all of them are more or less connected either with Chinese environment or payment system and therefore eventually I removed them all. After I had to perform the factory reset I was only got more careful with apps that I disabled. And according to my orientation, I kept Email, at least until Google implements dark color in Gmail. And kept useful utilities: (Manager, Gallery, Remote…).
Otherwise, I use Google Phone (the amazing last beta from: https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-google-phone-v14-0-175904292-bubble-t3708218, thank you Martin), Messages, Translate (removed nonfunctional MS Translate), Auto, Duo, Voice, Photos, Trips, Pay, Assistant, Lens, Google, Chrome, and of course all Google system apps. I also use third-party apps like VLC, Xiaomi calculator and YouTube vanced. Pretty much everything works as expected, including notifications to the extent that suits my way of use. After I erased Hivoice, Assistant works together with the hot word, if the screen is turned on (never wished to use it from turned off screen). The red mic on notification bar of the attached picture shows that assistant is active.
All banks application work. Google Play is not working at the moment but I expect that it will eventually. Currently, failure is the result of poor synchronization between Chinese EMUI and Google Android. No point to call the bank, it is the last one to solve the problem. The problem will be solved with the new EMUI or Play Services, because there is no material obstacle for G Play (SafetyNet passed and bank card is recognized and could be used online). I have another identical payment system installed (Inteso SP) and it works flawlessly.
CUSTOMIZATION
In order to adapt the phone to my needs, I had to deal with existing Chinese application first. I had to either: 1) remove them, 2) hide them, or 3) disable (erase) them.
Removing apps
Removing apps was easy. Just uninstall Chinese in Settings/Apps. As I said, I did it thoroughly and indiscriminately.
Hiding apps
My overall objective is to have only one home screen page. I’m fed up with slippery pages interfering with gestures. And besides, I decided to use gestures (swype) as system navigation and therefore swyping between homepages could be annoying even more.
In order to have only one home page, I have to use folders and hide auxiliary functional apps (like download, OTA, backup, clock..etc).
Surprisingly I found that Tweaker for Huawei works pretty well with EMUI9, although it is an old application: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teammt.gmanrainy.emuitweaker&hl=en. One of its functions is triggering the abandoned EMUI gesture that enables hiding any application and thus removing it from the home screen without affecting its functionality.
Disabling (erasing) apps
To “remove” any nonremovable application without root you need a computer with the adb command-line tool. In fact, this method never removes any application, rather disables and hides it for the current user. So it doesn’t affect OTA and it doesn’t revert after reset either. It does come back after factory reset though.
The method of erasing an app works through adb (so adb must be installed on the computer – either Windows or Linux) and it requests the following syntax in command line:
1. adb devices (and after that setting permission on the phone)
2. adb shell
3. pm unistall -k --user 0 <package name>
where <package name> is not the name of the application as it shows but the name of the installed package, which must be discovered and one of the apps which could do that effectively could be found here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.itto.packageinspector&hl=en.
(for example: pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.huawei.wallet)
A basic idea what to disable could be found here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-10/how-to/guide-to-remove-apps-root-t3828324. Of course, what to disable always depends on personal preferences and therefore this list should be taken with a grain of salt.
So, after arranging applications there comes the final stage of making the phone Android again. EMUI makeover. For that, we need this EMUI editor: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mixapplications.themeeditor.
But there is a bad news. It doesn’t work with EMUI 9 (yet). What now? There are two possibilities: either finding a good theme and simply installing it (there are plenty of them, only I didn’t test if they are working with EMUI 9 (some of the android likes are to be found in the Playstore under Hamzio7 or here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-10/themes/pure-black-theme-emui-8-t3719904.
The other possibility is to find a phone with EMUI 8 and compile the hwt file there and transfer it to Mate 20 X. That is what I did. The system will warn you that it is an old version of the theme and it might not work well but skip that. It works just fine.
Don’t judge the solution by my design. I’m a modest guy, more practically oriented. You may have almost any design that you wish.
And of course, if you decide to experiment with this stuff yourself, you should be aware that you are the only one taking the risk. I honestly believe that you can’t, if you are not extremely innovative, irretrievably destroy anything, but even factory reset might be sometimes really annoying.
Good luck with your brand new Chinese Mate 20 X.
Great post Just a couple of questions:
1) Are your notifications working perfectly? By that, I mean without delay under both wi-fi and mobile networks, with screen on and screen off? If so, what did you do to achieve this?
2) Do you mind sharing where did you buy the device from?
Nice job! Looking even more forward to the arrival of my Mate 20 X!
@piskr
Would you mind give some steps to get google phone and Messages to work properly. When phone call comes in, my phone call screen does not come on. Messages only works sometime and sometime message does not send. Thanks.
Genoveffo said:
Great post Just a couple of questions:
1) Are your notifications working perfectly? By that, I mean without delay under both wi-fi and mobile networks, with screen on and screen off? If so, what did you do to achieve this?
2) Do you mind sharing where did you buy the device from?
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1) Yes, notifications work flawlessly in my extent of use, both with the screen on and off. I don't use exotics like telegram or whatsapp though. It's a matter of permissions and notification settings. Be aware that each notification had to be set separately and checked under application and under notification sector under settings. And also have in mind that if you install the third party phone, it is just addition of original phone (under app/system processes), and the later must remain active and has its own permissions and notification as well. Phone app has different system structure than SMS. You can simply erase Huawei messaging and replace it with the Google one (haven't tried others).
2) You can find here both color and memory variants: https://www.ilmultistoredelzazza.eu...l_Sim_EMUI_9_Android_9/p1748191_19236868.aspx
wingzero said:
@piskr
Would you mind give some steps to get google phone and Messages to work properly. When phone call comes in, my phone call screen does not come on. Messages only works sometime and sometime message does not send. Thanks.
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You should really carefully check and set both permissions and notifications for each application. And remember that you mustn't neglect the system phone app.
piskr said:
You should really carefully check and set both permissions and notifications for each application. And remember that you mustn't neglect the system phone app.
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I checked all the settings and seem to be correct unless I missed some steps.
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I checked all the settings and seem to be correct unless I missed some steps.
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OK. Here are my settings.
You do know there's an EVR-L international models, right? Why not just get that instead? That's what I have.
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OK. Here are my settings.
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Thanks for taking the time to post the screen shots. All my the settings are the same except I don't the phone app on your last screen shot. Did you download it or it's a stock app?
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MishaalRahman said:
You do know there's an EVR-L international models, right? Why not just get that instead? That's what I have.
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It's too late. I already bought the China version. It's too much hassle try to sell it.
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Thanks for taking the time to post the screen shots. All my the settings are the same except I don't the phone app on your last screen shot. Did you download it or it's a stock app?
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It's too late. I already bought the China version. It's too much hassle try to sell it.
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That's right, the last one is Google phone from the link I published and it works just fine (I really recommend it, it has so many opportunities). But you have managed to get notifications neither on the home screen nor on the lock screen? Neither for messages nor for the phone? If I were you I would go from setting to setting for this two apps and inspect every item very carefully. It is possible in this early stage of EMUI9 that it has some weird glitches occurring randomly on some phones but it is not very likely. A small overlooked detail in settings could mean everything.
Otherwise, I don't regret that I bought the Chinese version. Now I've got everything that I would have with the international variant. Only I don't have working Google pay yet, but so far I haven't seen a clear statement that it really works on international Mate 20x either. To work means to be able pay with the phone not only loading a card, that's what I did too. Otherwise, I got a good price (€660 before VAT), integrated call recorder and rooting opportunity.
And regarding crap, international one has it too. I've got international Mate 10 pro and I know it. Besides Chinese one additional western, baked in (MS, Facebook, Google's and third party's).
@piskr
The phone will ring on the google phone app but the screen does not come. I will play with the settings and figure it out. Thanks for all the help.
Thank you. This helped get me to a non-Chinese specifc phone.
Attachin my ADB run.
UPDATE: Please check out AJ's great thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-20-x/how-to/guide-remove-apps-adb-t3870727
I mistakenly removed one item (com.huawei.android.hwouc) I shouldn't have and I amnot getting OTAs (which I also turn off automatic ones in dev options, but if I want one, I lost it them).
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Thank you. This helped get me to a non-Chinese specifc phone.
Attachin my ADB run.
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As I'm not well schooled on ADB. How would you apply this? And why 2 Zips? Gracias
See beginning of the thread and other threads on ADB. Same list, mine in txt or zip, same file, not necessarily good for everyone.
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As I'm not well schooled on ADB. How would you apply this? And why 2 Zips? Gracias
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Here's my Spreadsheet with a quick guide in it along with the adb files you'll need.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-20-x/how-to/guide-remove-apps-adb-t3870727
Once you get the list of packages on your AL00 just run the fastboot command to remove each one.
wingzero said:
@piskr
The phone will ring on the google phone app but the screen does not come. I will play with the settings and figure it out. Thanks for all the help.
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Wondering if you had any luck. Some people actually use a phone as a phone
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Wondering if you had any luck. Some people actually use a phone as a phone
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I got it working. I am using the stable v.25 version. What I did was after selected the google phone as default dialing app, I go back to default apps and click the stock phone and then click the google phone again. I did this by chance and luck. Hope this will solve your issue. The stock phone app is horrible. Make sure you use the stable version. Good luck.
wingzero said:
I got it working. I am using the stable v.25 version. What I did was after selected the google phone as default dialing app, I go back to default apps and click the stock phone and then click the google phone again. I did this by chance and luck. Hope this will solve your issue. The stock phone app is horrible. Make sure you use the stable version. Good luck.
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Thanks man.
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Now it's 27. And so far everything work. Regarding comments on the forum we are on the privileged side. Just be sure to set notifications and permissions right.
Neo Backup (formerly OAndBackupX) is a fork of the famous OAndBackup with the aim to bring OAndBackup to 202X and part of Neo Applications suite. For now the app is already fully rewritten, coming up would be making it robust and adding some lengthily planned features which could ease the backup/restore workflow with any device. Therefore all types of contribution are always welcome.
Now on functionality of our App:
It requires root and allows you to backup individual apps and their data.
Both backup and restore of individual programs one at a time and batch backup and restore of multiple programs are supported.
Restoring system apps should be possible without requiring a reboot afterwards.
Backups can be scheduled with no limit on the number of individual schedules and there is the possibility of creating custom lists from the list of installed apps.
And here's the project's FAQ.
Recommendation
A combination with your favourite sync solution (e.g. Syncthing, Nextcloud...) keeping an encrypted copy of your apps and their data on your server or "stable" device could bring a lot of benefits and save you a lot of work while changing ROMs or just cleaning your mobile device.
Community
There's a new room on Matrix and a group on Telegram to discuss the development of the App and test new versions:
Matrix
Telegram
Our Code Of Conduct applies to the communication in the community same as for all contributers.
Encryption
If enabled the data backup will be encrypted with AES 256 based on a password you can set in the settings, which you'll have to use when you want to restore the data. This way you can store your backups more securely, worrying less about their readability.
If you have some kotlin and android knowledge and like to contribute to the project, see our Taiga.io project here to see what is still needed to be done, where a help could be needed or if you'd like to fix one of the issues. Each contribution and communication in the project community should follow our Code Of Conduct
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Developer @Machiav3lli (Antonios Hazim)
(I am merely creating this thread and in no way the developer or contributor to the app itself, all credit goes to him and others who have contributed )
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Release 5.0.0
NEW MAJOR VERSION: incompatible with the old releases.
MIGRATED TO KOTLIN
SCHEDULED ACTIONS CAN ONLY LAST 10 MINUTES (SYSTEM CONSTRAINT): so partition your group of apps
Added: Individual modes for apps in batch action dialog
Updated: Choosing a backup directory doesn't create a child folder anymore
Updated: Far less unneeded refreshing
Fixed: APK/data not found error
Fixed: Persistent storage permission
Fixed: A11 support
Far too many other improvements, fixes and cleanups (in the full changelog)
was looking this for longtime wish could backup in otg
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thanks dev really appreciate it
Have used oandbackup. Good to see this back
I heard about oAndbackup but never used it. Excited to try this
Walden0 said:
Release 3.2.0:...
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the apk obtained just now from Github and Izzyondroid have the same md5, whereas the one from F-droid seems to be newer ('added on 2020-10-02') and has a different size & md5. is that normal? which is the link recommended to follow for regular official updates?
m0han said:
the apk obtained just now from Github and Izzyondroid have the same md5, whereas the one from F-droid seems to be newer ('added on 2020-10-02') and has a different size & md5. is that normal? which is the link recommended to follow for regular official updates?
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All are exactly the same.
The fdroid one is newer and different in size and md5 because fdroid builds from the sources directly itself. Look for the versions they will be same.
Please be careful with the 3.2.0 release. There is an upcoming release 4.x that breaks compatibility with the existing backup archives in favor of Storage Access Framework and a new backup directory structure.
Test versions are posted in the Telegram group. Some common backup related issues such as issues with symlinks and pipes are not present anymore in the 4.x release.
Okay, I'm lost, and I'm not easily lost
Really wanted to try this, but we'll....
Trying this for the first time, but cannot fathom it's confusing way of doing things
All I want to do is backup user apps and their data....but no way can I figure how to do it
1st try, set the filter options to display user apps....doesn't do anything ...system apps still shown
Switch to backup tab (once I figured out which one it was) still listing system apps etc
Try selecting all and then changing filter...nope, system apps still shown
Go around in circles for 15 minutes, and then post here
I've used every backup app on Android since the beginning of time, never needed to post asking for help...
What am I missing?
You all could use some documentation at very least
Better labelling or explanation of GUI items needed too
Cheers in advance
@73sydney Labeling the icons was a topic on the chat already… and an issue on github, I think. The UI has been updated, but is still evolving. That's why it's hard to write good documentation without having it outdated after 1 or 2 months again.
Regarding your issues:
You might have missed to confirm the filter with the green button on the bottom (you might have to scroll down in the fragment a bit).
If you want to backup something, just tap on the app and select backup on the bottom of the "AppSheet" that appears then. Or you can do a batch backup if you change the mode to it with the icons that come up when you scroll up a bit (hint: keep pressing a button to get a hint what the button does). I think, there is a high chance, that some of you apps fail to be backed up because of symlinks. Version 4 should be more reliable.
Just give it a try, don't be sad, if it doesn't work perfectly. The development is still very active (removing/replacing legacy stuff, making sure the data is consistent, optimizing the performance etc). Some people tried the new version 4 and reported new bugs and it's known that the UI has some issues because a central structure was replaced and it seems that there are still some combinations of the settings that cause issues.
Maybe it's the right time, to invite some Android experts. Currently the data consistency is a hot topic. To close an app or not to close an app, how is it restarted at the end and how to keep it from restarting during backup? If anyone wants to join, just join via Matrix or Telegram.
Pizze said:
@73sydney Labeling the icons was a topic on the chat already… and an issue on github, I think. The UI has been updated, but is still evolving. That's why it's hard to write good documentation without having it outdated after 1 or 2 months again.
Regarding your issues:
You might have missed to confirm the filter with the green button on the bottom (you might have to scroll down in the fragment a bit).
If you want to backup something, just tap on the app and select backup on the bottom of the "AppSheet" that appears then. Or you can do a batch backup if you change the mode to it with the icons that come up when you scroll up a bit (hint: keep pressing a button to get a hint what the button does). I think, there is a high chance, that some of you apps fail to be backed up because of symlinks. Version 4 should be more reliable.
Just give it a try, don't be sad, if it doesn't work perfectly. The development is still very active (removing/replacing legacy stuff, making sure the data is consistent, optimizing the performance etc). Some people tried the new version 4 and reported new bugs and it's known that the UI has some issues because a central structure was replaced and it seems that there are still some combinations of the settings that cause issues.
Maybe it's the right time, to invite some Android experts. Currently the data consistency is a hot topic. To close an app or not to close an app, how is it restarted at the end and how to keep it from restarting during backup? If anyone wants to join, just join via Matrix or Telegram.
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Hi, i will never see the chat because i dont believe in installing 3rd party apps just for support for apps listed on XDA
I'll check out github issues though in future
I did tap the confirm button, it seems to do something but then comes back with no apps lin lis resetting to default (paraphrasing as away from device at the moment)
Literally nothing i tried got me all my user apps ticked ready for backup, if youre saying that i have to tick then one by one, then we're going to have an issue friend
So as yet, havent even tried a backup bacause i cant (short of ticking every app, skipping over the systenm and other special items ive asked the filter to hide but it doesnt) select the apps i want to backup...kinda catch22
Look im willing for anyone to piont out where im going wrong and even me made to feel like a numpty, but im a relatively smart guy, i have my full frontal lobe intact and ive managed to figure out every app in Android history until now
I get that youre also in the deep end currently with updating to a v4, so perhaps ill monitor and check back in when the dust settles a bit!
Cheers for the reply
73sydney said:
I get that youre also in the deep end currently with updating to a v4, so perhaps ill monitor and check back in when the dust settles a bit!
Cheers for the reply
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That's a good choice. I like the style how Titanium Backup did the job and I agree, that the current mechanism for filtering is okay'ish.
The Telegram channel has a massive growth at the moment and I'm feeling uncomfortable with the current situation. It was nice that OABX has been featured on the homepage, but I'm personally saying, that the app is just not ready yet and won't meet the expectation. It's more an early access beta than a stable production ready app right now.
See ya later. Thanks for giving it a try!
73sydney said:
Okay, I'm lost, and I'm not easily lost
Really wanted to try this, but we'll....
Trying this for the first time, but cannot fathom it's confusing way of doing things
All I want to do is backup user apps and their data....but no way can I figure how to do it
1st try, set the filter options to display user apps....doesn't do anything ...system apps still shown
Switch to backup tab (once I figured out which one it was) still listing system apps etc
Try selecting all and then changing filter...nope, system apps still shown
Go around in circles for 15 minutes, and then post here
I've used every backup app on Android since the beginning of time, never needed to post asking for help...
What am I missing?
You all could use some documentation at very least
Better labelling or explanation of GUI items needed too
Cheers in advance
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Hope this helps.
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Hope this helps.
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Hi, appreciate the screenshots
I did try that several times yesterday, to no avail...
Just for you i removed, and reinstalled it just now and tried again, and success, i got just user apps selected and backup running!
Dont ask me to explain why it failed on 1st install, at times like these i like to play the "im just an end user" card
But thanks for taking the time to take the screenshots, it encouraged me to reinstall and give it another go, and if i hadnt i would never
have known the sweet taste of backup victory
edit/update:
Okay got too cocky
It got as far as VLC or 114/124 apps and has been stuck there crashed for 5 minutes
Hehe i got close though
Time to force close and try again...
edit/update #2:
after 4 force closes i got a backup done
on one occassion is atarted to do a backup , then went back to the app list window, with no apps displayed
ill test the restore in a couple of days when i have time
73sydney said:
Hi, appreciate the screenshots
I did try that several times yesterday, to no avail...
Just for you i removed, and reinstalled it just now and tried again, and success, i got just user apps selected and backup running!
Dont ask me to explain why it failed on 1st install, at times like these i like to play the "im just an end user" card
But thanks for taking the time to take the screenshots, it encouraged me to reinstall and give it another go, and if i hadnt i would never
have known the sweet taste of backup victory
edit/update:
Okay got too cocky
It got as far as VLC or 114/124 apps and has been stuck there crashed for 5 minutes
Hehe i got close though
Time to force close and try again...
edit/update #2:
after 4 force closes i got a backup done
on one occassion is atarted to do a backup , then went back to the app list window, with no apps displayed
ill test the restore in a couple of days when i have time
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Thanks for not giving up.
Make sure you keep updating the app from github/izzyondroid for faster access to updates.
Walden0 said:
Thanks for not giving up.
Make sure you keep updating the app from github/izzyondroid for faster access to updates.
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Currently testing restore - had to flash a ROM to test something for someone, may as well take the opportunity to try restore
Update:
Restore stalls at 14 packages left, force close time.....
Nope...3 attempts later same issue, althoug at different stage, different package
I suspect that even with battery optimization disabled for app (confirmed), the minute the screen goes out, it kills the restore process.
Im sadly not able to sit rigth now keeping the screen awake while 119 apps restore
I will keep my eye on the project
OAndBackup also system apps + settings?
Is it possible to backup and restore also system apps and their settings, e.g. the "system settings" (with screen resolution, installed screen widgets, app arrangements etc.)?
Titanium can't do it for example...
monicaONxda said:
Is it possible to backup and restore also system apps and their settings, e.g. the "system settings" (with screen resolution, installed screen widgets, app arrangements etc.)?
Titanium can't do it for example...
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You can backup system apps but not the specific settings im afraid.
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You can backup system apps but not the specific settings im afraid.
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OK, I see, so I can only backup the system apks without data!?
Can I backup data of third party apps?
monicaONxda said:
OK, I see, so I can only backup the system apks without data!?
Can I backup data of third party apps?
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Hi, you can backup system apps and their data as well as third party apps. Just keep in mind, what I wrote about version 3.2 before.
The settings for your Android system are stored in a database of the system app com.android.providers.settings. If you backup and restore the data followed by a reboot, you might be able to overwrite the current settings database. I don't know, what happens, if you replace the underlying database file on a running system. Not mentioning the catastrophic damage you could do if the database isn't as expected by the provider.
I successfully tested the restore of SMS and call history on the same phone and same ROM. There could be issues, if you mix things up.
What you more likely want is something, that exports all entries and imports them later on restore and this kind of functionality isn't implemented (yet).
Be careful, when you test something out. Bad sytem can break your system. Also be careful, that you only restore the data. Mixing versions of different ROMs/Android versions may have a bad ending.