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so I am using ATT Skyrocket outside USA. The previous owner somehow unlocked it and then sold it to me. The phone is currently running on Gingerbread and I am planning an upgrade to ICS (i know how to do this). What I want to know is that after upgrade will the sim lock be reverted or my phone will remain sim unlocked after update?
please consider that it will be difficult for me to buy an unlock code so please answer only if u have tried or some expert knowledge.
thank you
I had my phone unlocked by kachman from this forum by a usb hack as he clamined. It stays unlocked no matter what rom you flash or upgrade. Also from cellunlocker.net, they claim if you unlock your phone using their code, you phone will stay unlocked regardless of what system you flash. It's hard to say if your phone will remain unlocked given the little info you provided. I'd say just stick with gb until you could get it unlocked again if you need to.
Your phone SHOULD remain unlocked. An OS upgrade should not affect that, or else everyone who gets their phone unlocked would have to bring it in/get a new code every time they did an upgrade, which doesn't make much sense. I Mean I can't say this with 100% certainty but I'd be a considerable amount of money that this is the case.
unlocking is permanent ....
cxyjordan said:
I had my phone unlocked by kachman from this forum by a usb hack as he clamined. It stays unlocked no matter what rom you flash or upgrade. Also from cellunlocker.net, they claim if you unlock your phone using their code, you phone will stay unlocked regardless of what system you flash. It's hard to say if your phone will remain unlocked given the little info you provided. I'd say just stick with gb until you could get it unlocked again if you need to.
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cxyjordan said:
I had my phone unlocked by kachman from this forum by a usb hack as he clamined. It stays unlocked no matter what rom you flash or upgrade. Also from cellunlocker.net, they claim if you unlock your phone using their code, you phone will stay unlocked regardless of what system you flash. It's hard to say if your phone will remain unlocked given the little info you provided. I'd say just stick with gb until you could get it unlocked again if you need to.
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will there were four parties involved in the middle before i got hold of the phone but when it came to me it was already unlocked and ready to take in any sim...now the point is that since its unlocked is it possible to find out how was it actually unlocked? and if it was done through an unlock code, is it possible to extract it from the phone itself? (some one has already payed for unlocking it so now there seems to be no point of keeping the unlock code in a secret location)
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unlocking is permanent ....
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is there any proof of what you say?
machiyara said:
will there were four parties involved in the middle before i got hold of the phone but when it came to me it was already unlocked and ready to take in any sim...now the point is that since its unlocked is it possible to find out how was it actually unlocked? and if it was done through an unlock code, is it possible to extract it from the phone itself? (some one has already payed for unlocking it so now there seems to be no point of keeping the unlock code in a secret location)
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is there any proof of what you say?
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is it possible to find out how was it actually unlocked? --No.
if it was done through an unlock code, is it possible to extract it from the phone itself? -- No.
is there any proof of what you say? -- The unlock code and unlock state are stored in an encrypted file system partition (mmcblk0p18) that is accessible only by the radio and completely separate from the kernel, radio, system, data, and cache partitions that are typically overwritten during a ROM install/upgrade. So, yes a SIM unlock is permanent.
cschmitt said:
is it possible to find out how was it actually unlocked? --No.
if it was done through an unlock code, is it possible to extract it from the phone itself? -- No.
is there any proof of what you say? -- The unlock code and unlock state are stored in an encrypted file system partition (mmcblk0p18) that is accessible only by the radio and completely separate from the kernel, radio, system, data, and cache partitions that are typically overwritten during a ROM install/upgrade. So, yes a SIM unlock is permanent.
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I missed you man lmfao
feeling the skyrocket xperiance
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cschmitt said:
is it possible to find out how was it actually unlocked? --No.
if it was done through an unlock code, is it possible to extract it from the phone itself? -- No.
is there any proof of what you say? -- The unlock code and unlock state are stored in an encrypted file system partition (mmcblk0p18) that is accessible only by the radio and completely separate from the kernel, radio, system, data, and cache partitions that are typically overwritten during a ROM install/upgrade. So, yes a SIM unlock is permanent.
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Believing on what u say i will try the update soon
Its such a shock that out of hundreds of skyrocket users who unlock their phones, no one has tried an update and cant make a comment on it.
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Believing on what u say i will try the update soon
Its such a shock that out of hundreds of skyrocket users who unlock their phones, no one has tried an update and cant make a comment on it.
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Once unlocked always unlocked.
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cschmitt said:
is it possible to find out how was it actually unlocked? --No.
if it was done through an unlock code, is it possible to extract it from the phone itself? -- No.
is there any proof of what you say? -- The unlock code and unlock state are stored in an encrypted file system partition (mmcblk0p18) that is accessible only by the radio and completely separate from the kernel, radio, system, data, and cache partitions that are typically overwritten during a ROM install/upgrade. So, yes a SIM unlock is permanent.
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yes you were right, phone is still unlocked after upgrading
thankyou
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Just got the D6633 dual Sim for my wife. I use Nexus devices exclusively but since Sony offers bootloader unlocking I decided to get this phone instead of a Nexus for her.
My question is, should I go through the steps to actually get the bootloader unlock code for future use. I don't plan on unlocking the bootloader just yet but I worry that in the future the service might be discontinued and I'll never get a code from Sony.
It's still under warranty and I'd like to keep it that way so I guess the real question is, is getting the code what voids the warranty or actually preforming the unlock that does it? Is there a counter or some type of a flag in the device that is set permanently or can the bootloader be locked back again like any Nexus device?
Thanks for your help.
No, it's not like KNOX [SAMSUNG] or S-ON [HTC]
Keep the code if you want.
That is one of the reasons I prefer SONY devices, besides the specs and build quality. No stuff like tripping KNOX fuse or getting S-OFF to make an HTC a Google Play Edition for example.
Keep the code, just in case.
TheTeslaCoil said:
No, it's not like KNOX [SAMSUNG] or S-ON [HTC]
Keep the code if you want.
That is one of the reasons I prefer SONY devices, besides the specs and build quality. No stuff like tripping KNOX fuse or getting S-OFF to make an HTC a Google Play Edition for example.
Keep the code, just in case.
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OK, but if there is no tripped flag, how do they know I didn't use the code? I guess you didn't understand my initial question. I can understands the code doesn't expire, but doesn't the act of getting the code voids warranty?
obsanity said:
OK, but if there is no tripped flag, how do they know I didn't use the code? I guess you didn't understand my initial question. I can understands the code doesn't expire, but doesn't the act of getting the code voids warranty?
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You trigger something on their servers, it's all about the IMEI and Serial Number.
Even if you relock the bootloader, they will still know it was unlocked, I for example relocked the bootloader the official way, via SONY website, and got the code in my email.
Not quite. Warrenty is coded when you unlock the boot, nor when you ask for the code.
You can get the code and keep it forever.
Officially there is no way to re lock the bootloader anyway.
However, if you root first, backup the TA patition them unlock the boot, you can restore the TA partition to re lock and don't will not know.
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Not quite. Warrenty is coded when you unlock the boot, nor when you ask for the code.
You can get the code and keep it forever.
Officially there is no way to re lock the bootloader anyway.
However, if you root first, backup the TA patition them unlock the boot, you can restore the TA partition to re lock and don't will not know.
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True, it is a good idea to backup the TA partion, I myself didn't do it, but it is a good advice.
OK, so I'm gathering that there is a way to root and install recovery without unlocking the bootloader. If that's the case, why would anyone need to open the bootloader?
Also, I'm still not clear on my initial question. Do I loose warranty as soon as I get the unlock code from Sony or does the act of unlocking what voids it.
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OK, so I'm gathering that there is a way to root and install recovery without unlocking the bootloader. If that's the case, why would anyone need to open the bootloader?
Also, I'm still not clear on my initial question. Do I loose warranty as soon as I get the unlock code from Sony or does the act of unlocking what voids it.
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Only when you unlock you lose warranty. But you can backup the TA partition, and relock later, if you want.
With an unlock bootloader you can root Lollipop easy, with a lock bootloader, there are a few steps, like downgrading, for example.
And many more stuff you can do, with an unlocked bootloader, flash custom ROM's...mods, tweaks, etc.
TheTeslaCoil said:
Only when you unlock you lose warranty. But you can backup the TA partition, and relock later, if you want.
With an unlock bootloader you can root Lollipop easy, with a lock bootloader, there are a few steps, like downgrading, for example.
And many more stuff you can do, with an unlocked bootloader, flash custom ROM's...mods, tweaks, etc.
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So if you can lock it back and need to claim warranty they won't know you ever had it unlocked? Something seems not right.
obsanity said:
So if you can lock it back and need to claim warranty they won't know you ever had it unlocked? Something seems not right.
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If you restore your TA partition, yeah, you can claim warranty.
Hi,
is there easy tool to root phone. I don't need install trwp and custom roms.
I just need to root the phone - that's all.
There is no shortcut... you must unlock the device via Motorola's Official Unlock tool, this will wipe your device and void the warranty. Then you can boot TWRP (without flashing it if you wish) and install root.
Sorry, but since Lollipop, and all future versions of Android, there will be no more quick root solution that can be done without unlocking and following the "old normal" procedure, Google made sure of that, for now at least until someone discovers an entirely new way to root.
i was thinking that there is some easier way.
Motorola has app (Moto care i think ) that can remotely wipe phone when lost. When i was activating it there was some info about root access.
So i need that tool:
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
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How to boot into TRWP without flashing it ?
Is there way to lock the phone after unlock process ? For example when I won't need any more rooted phone.
Yes
You boot twrp with the 'fastboot boot xxxx.img' command
Your phone will always show unlocked, even when relocked, unless you flash a stock rom image using a special OEM lock procedure. TBH, almost no one bothers because it will always show tampered and you won't get the warranty back.
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that's not good information. With my "luck" to phones it probably will need warranty after unlock
what else will i need to unlock it ?
Motorola unlock tool - i know.
i suppose drivers for phone, what else ?
bartwaw said:
that's not good information. With my "luck" to phones it probably will need warranty after unlock
what else will i need to unlock it ?
Motorola unlock tool - i know.
i suppose drivers for phone, what else ?
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There is no "tool"... Just drivers (Win only), a few fastboot commands, and Moto's website, it's all manually done with the G3.
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If you are ready to root your phone, then don't think about warranty. every warranty voids at one day, then if you want full control over your phone , you must ready for everything, otherwise don't root .
Before doing anything, you must do a backup
Read everything and understand then hit ok in all steps of Android rooting life .
There is a root tool called One Click Root. It seems great. have a try.
drmuruga said:
If you are ready to root your phone, then don't think about warranty. every warranty voids at one day, then if you want full control over your phone , you must ready for everything, otherwise don't root .
Before doing anything, you must do a backup
Read everything and understand then hit ok in all steps of Android rooting life .
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You are saying backup before doing anythig... But how to backup it? When we unlock all data get wiped... So there is nothing to backup... Device is very clean...
sagar27691 said:
You are saying backup before doing anythig... But how to backup it? When we unlock all data get wiped... So there is nothing to backup... Device is very clean...
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You should back up as much as possible before you unlock the device. Photos, Videos, etc - you can back-up to your SD card. Contacts, Calendar, etc. can be backed up on Google.
I'm not sure about other app data, like in games.
Before you root, consider whether you actually *need* to root your phone for you to use it. Often, a lot of the 'control' people mention, is something they hardly make use of. One popular reason for rooting might be ad-blocking, but if it's just to block ads in browsers, there are various browsers available with ad-blocking enabled (firefox for instance with a plugin) and if you want system-wide ad-blocking, there are services such as AdGuard, which work with a local VPN / without rooting. More 'control' also means you're potentially making your device less safe. Lastly, the Moto G3 is very clean to begin with, very close to stock Android and the Motorola apps that are included are generally considered to be useful instead of bloat.
TL;DR, think before your root / gamble with your warranty, don't just root for the sake of it.
That said, good luck
Just received my Solar Red U11. Is there any reason not to unlock the bootloader right away?
I'm not planing on rooting it or installing any custom ROMs anytime soon, but I'm also not 100% sure I'm gonna be keeping the phone (few things I need to see if I can get used to).
Should I just unlock it now so I don't have to (potentially) wipe my device at a later date?
Thanks!
techboy10 said:
Just received my Solar Red U11. Is there any reason not to unlock the bootloader right away?
I'm not planing on rooting it or installing any custom ROMs anytime soon, but I'm also not 100% sure I'm gonna be keeping the phone (few things I need to see if I can get used to).
Should I just unlock it now so I don't have to (potentially) wipe my device at a later date?
Thanks!
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if you decide to unlock at a later date you can back up your stuff to your computer unlock then put it back.all the other stuff is your choice, me, mine is unlocked out of the box.
it only wipes your internal, not the ext_sdcard
At some point, one of the future updates could prevent you from unlocking it. That would eliminate the
ability to modify your phone's software. If you'll never do that, probably doesn't matter if unlockable.
The only downside is the orange reminder splash screen that is displayed on boot-up.
Aldo101t said:
if you decide to unlock at a later date you can back up your stuff to your computer unlock then put it back.all the other stuff is your choice, me, mine is unlocked out of the box.
it only wipes your internal, not the ext_sdcard
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Aldo, how do you back up data & /or app settings of 3d party apps fm a device w/locked Bootloader & no root?
Also, what & how much boot delay is there if you unlock bootloader - I saw someone post a pic that shows the screen in text mode & a warning abt startup not beginning for 5 seconds.
Also, please clarify, HTC gave warnings about losing the Fingerprint capability if you unlock the bootloader; I just want root,so I can run Titanium B/U & some root-needed apps- put really like the Fingerprint feature- was that an old warning? The posted HTC warning says you can'telock the bootloader- but I just saw someone talk abt re-locking their bootloader bc they want to sell the device as clean.
Any help much appreciated, TIA oldwolf
Boot loader won't effect your fingerprint scanner....never heard of had that.
The warning about losing fingerprint scanner functionality on HTCDev refers to the One Max (2013), and only to that device AFAIK.
Negative effects of unlocked bootloader
Has anybody found HTC U11 losing OEM applications, sound and camera quality or other pre installed applications after unlocking the bootloader? Also please tell me whether the unlocking procedure is same for Android oreo udate.
Thanks.
sudheersharma said:
Has anybody found HTC U11 losing OEM applications, sound and camera quality or other pre installed applications after unlocking the bootloader? Also please tell me whether the unlocking procedure is same for Android oreo udate.
Thanks.
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Go to developer options ( on setting) and allow unlocked bootloader ,,,ok finish
Unlocking the bootloader has no adverse effects. You can still update ota. If the bootloader is ever unlocked there is no reason to relock it unless you are returning the phone to the store.
[Apologies for being a noob, I tried my best to do the homework]
I want to buy a used Pixel 2 (or Pixel 3). There is some general advice on the internet reminding to check:
(i) for physical damage
(ii) if ESN / IMEI has been blacklisted
(iii) if the device is compatible with a carrier (communication standard, uses SIM and not e-SIM, not carrier locked)
(iv) and warning that the device can break or become blacklisted after the purchase.
All of the above is associated with a risk, which is limited to the amount of money paid.
But my primary concern is the risk from using the second-hand device where privacy is critical (email, online banking, 2FA through SMS). How do I make sure the previous owner hasn't planted a backdoor? If I trust Google, what are the reasonable steps to ensure that the device hasn't been tampered with by someone else? In particular:
(1) How do I check on Pixel 2 that the firmware, bootloader, OS are the original ones?
(2) If the device had been bootloader unlocked and/or rooted, is it possible to restore the original images, re-lock the bootloader to be confident that no one (but Google) will spy on me?
(3) Is there anything I am missing?
(4) Which of these are probably different on Pixel 3 and should be asked on Pixel 3 forum?
I barely understand the difference between the bootlocker and the recovery, and I would appreciate clear answers very much.
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- A similar question was asked about Galaxy Note 9. One senior member says "Hell, back in the day we could reset knox counters ... even checking knox isn't a full proof method". Another says "So rest assured if your Warranty Bit is not 0x1 a Custom Binary has never been flashed". I am confused, as there is no concensus.
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- Here someone says "Really easy to relock" about OnePlus 5. I wonder if the same is true for Pixels 2/3?
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Reboot the phone, and see if the yellow exclamation mark comes up saying the bootloader was modified.
If you don't see that, it means the Pixel 2 bootloader was never unlocked and a custom ROM was never flashed to the device.
Since all Pixel 2 phones would be out of warranty now, the only way to ensure security is to flash a trusty ROM yourself.
kodina said:
Since all Pixel 2 phones would be out of warranty now, the only way to ensure security is to flash a trusty ROM yourself.
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Thanks for you response, but I am not sure I understand the last bit. Do you mean I would have to flash a trusty ROM myself because there are no certified service centres that would accept the phone, as the warranty has expired? Or do you mean that there are no automatic updates or supported ROMs because of the end of life or something?
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wiltingenthusiasm said:
Thanks for you response, but I am not sure I understand the last bit. Do you mean I would have to flash a trusty ROM myself because there are no certified service centres that would accept the phone, as the warranty has expired? Or do you mean that there are no automatic updates or supported ROMs because of the end of life or something?
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No, I mean even if the bootloader is locked, even if the original owner never flashed a custom ROM, the device (in theory) could still have had been rooted in the past, unknown apps installed, root removed and you would never know. Hoewever, this is all in theory, but it is possible, and only applies if you are paranoid about security.
Otherwise, reboot the phone, no bootlaoder warning = 99% safe to use.
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No, I mean even if the bootloader is locked, even if the original owner never flashed a custom ROM, the device (in theory) could still have had been rooted in the past, unknown apps installed, root removed and you would never know. Hoewever, this is all in theory, but it is possible, and only applies if you are paranoid about security.
Otherwise, reboot the phone, no bootlaoder warning = 99% safe to use.
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Oh, I see. And a factory reset would not help either, because it does not recover the OS from a reserve copy whose integrity can be ensured, but simply deletes all user data and extra apps, while keeping the rest, which could have been compromised via root access. Therefore, there is no guarantee that the factory reset via bootloader really gets the device to the "factory state". Is that correct?
[Many thanks for your explanation.]
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Oh, I see. And a factory reset would not help either, because it does not recover the OS from a reserve copy whose integrity can be ensured, but simply deletes all user data and extra apps, while keeping the rest, which could have been compromised via root access. Therefore, there is no guarantee that the factory reset via bootloader really gets the device to the "factory state". Is that correct?
[Many thanks for your explanation.]
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In theory, because I have not ready any news, articles, guides or forum threads where people are claiming they have done it.
So, the only option to ensure things are 1% safer, is to unlock the bootloader and flash a custom ROM yourself, trusting that the ROM dev didn't put anything weird in it. Though, as far as I checked, none of the OFFICIAL ROMs for Pixel 2 have a history of putting in something bad.
So, if you want 100% stability, use the default google ROM after a factory reset, but if you want """more""" security, unlock the bootloader and flash the ROM yourself.