It has been a while since the latest post which it was posted in the end of November/December.
So I'm gonna ask if anybody got any news or progress in unlocking the bootloader?
I've been following threads on the Q6 since reading about the Q7. The 7 looks and sounds good, except for 2 things; 1 is that the chipset is pretty much entry level quality, and the other is the unlockable bootloader.
Every search I did indicates the OEM has it locked down and unable to be broken. Sure, people post directions on how to unlock an LG phone (and include the Q6), but the directions always include "now go to LG dev website and retrieve your unlock code"...
Bwahahahahaha! LG only gives those codes for a few specific of their devices. The Q6 isn't one of them.
So, you can run LG bloatware for 2 yrs, hope they have somewhat timely updates, and then hope they put the Q6 in with the other devices that can be unlocked. They might do that, and then again, they might not.
A perfect example of these issues with LG is the G6. There were only 2 variations of the G6 that could be unlocked. If you bought one of the many variations that was not 1 of these 2, you were sol.
It's not LG alone, many oem's don't want their devices bootloader unlocked. Samsung has the 'void warranty' knox bit crap, Huawei just removed it's site that returned unlock codes for their (used to be) available devices, etc etc.
I have to say the Q7 really looked good, perfect size, weight, functionality, etc. But can't unlock it? Entry level chip?
I'll wait for an Android One device I like or pay for a (hopefully) midrange Google device.
Honestly, I don't think any amount of YELLING, on anyone's part, is going to change what some of these OEM's do. They've made their decisions, steer clear.
So...what do you want to say?
that LG sucks
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Saw a G4 Thread about Technical Steps for bootloader unlock so created this thread for discussion/timepass
CAUTION : EXTREME CONSPIRACIES AHEAD ! viewer may also see SOME TECHNICAL TERMS that will kill your brain FOREVER!
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Sorry for posting this bulls**t but this is my current "Theory"..
LG will never give out bootloader unlock (They never have).. Until the G3 we had bump but due to an infamous reason it got patched up since lollipop.. The only hope is to find out an exploit that can either reset BL-lock or a vulnerability to bypass bootloader-check (for flashing custom recovery/boot).
The thing is they didnt even include fastboot .. Well this is indeed my first LG device .. (my friend has a G3).. but why no fastboot ??
-also it seems that they probably already knew about the SD810 overheat issue and hence H950 released in April was equip with 3GB RAM to tackle the SoC issue to certain point ..
Again at&t is a certain villain to bootloader-unlock (including many carriers in US)..
My Theory also revolves around the G4 too..
-The 815 model was given bootloader unlock and it void the warranty according to LG (but EU laws somehow gave the EUR customers the warranty)..
-The thing is I believe LG were well aware for the Bootloop issue in the G4 in certain lots and were planning to not replacing the device due to unlock bootloader..(I am a person that believe in Conspiracies so much that I believe that my real body is attached to a machine all everything around me is an illusion created by the Illuminati).
Personally :
Need a BL-Unlock for custom kernel and custom recovery(TWRP) rather than a Custom Rom (I love stock Custom Roms though)..
SO LET'S BEGIN : (Any ideas for possible exploits are welcome)
adds08 said:
Saw a G4 Thread about Technical Steps for bootloader unlock so created this thread for discussion/timepass
CAUTION : EXTREME CONSPIRACIES AHEAD ! viewer may also see SOME TECHNICAL TERMS that will kill your brain FOREVER!
btw:
Sorry for posting this bulls**t but this is my current "Theory"..
LG will never give out bootloader unlock (They never have).. Until the G3 we had bump but due to an infamous reason it got patched up since lollipop.. The only hope is to find out an exploit that can either reset BL-lock or a vulnerability to bypass bootloader-check (for flashing custom recovery/boot).
The thing is they didnt even include fastboot .. Well this is indeed my first LG device .. (my friend has a G3).. but why no fastboot ??
-also it seems that they probably already knew about the SD810 overheat issue and hence H950 released in April was equip with 3GB RAM to tackle the SoC issue to certain point ..
Again at&t is a certain villain to bootloader-unlock (including many carriers in US)..
My Theory also revolves around the G4 too..
-The 815 model was given bootloader unlock and it void the warranty according to LG (but EU laws somehow gave the EUR customers the warranty)..
-The thing is I believe LG were well aware for the Bootloop issue in the G4 in certain lots and were planning to not replacing the device due to unlock bootloader..(I am a person that believe in Conspiracies so much that I believe that my real body is attached to a machine all everything around me is an illusion created by the Illuminati).
Personally :
Need a BL-Unlock for custom kernel and custom recovery(TWRP) rather than a Custom Rom (I love stock Custom Roms though)..
SO LET'S BEGIN : (Any ideas for possible exploits are welcome)
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Since i know the G Flex2 will have Marshmallow update soon i dont hope so much we will have a Bootloader unlock by LG, this device is nothing for LG because the "unfamous/fake" overheat processor, and since then many users dont buy devices with SD810 and this is why LG put the SD808 in G4 and V10, the Nexus 6P reallity is different because is a SD810 rev.3 (v.3 what you wanna call it!).
So, even my LG G3 have a bump (and not a official BL Unlock) to give TWRP acess and flash custom ROM's/Kernel's (i already have one but sell it when i brought my GFlex2).
Things for GFLex2 is bad, really bad...i love the device a LOT, i wont sell it since LG dont will make any more GFLex2 sequel and this will be a unique phone for a long time and i think this deserve a lot more enfort by LG to give support to this device, since they even didnt make the 18 months since theyr launch...
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this device is nothing for LG because the "unfamous/fake" overheat processor, and since then many users dont buy devices with SD810
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I never really understood this issue. My G Flex 2 get just as hot when gaming as my previous Xperia Z1, Lumia 930. The HTC One X I had was even hotter to hold while gaming. My iPhone 4 was alot better but still pretty hot.
parkentosh said:
I never really understood this issue. My G Flex 2 get just as hot when gaming as my previous Xperia Z1, Lumia 930. The HTC One X I had was even hotter to hold while gaming. My iPhone 4 was alot better but still pretty hot.
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Sure you dont notice the overheat on GF2 because LG do the homework in the updates they release for this device....but when on VR apps the device really get hot, i dont track the temp but sure is above 70 degrees! i dont play a lot on this, i dont play extreme GPU games, just simple games and in that case the device temp is normal.
I am sure if someday the bootloader get's unlocked there will be some exeletn kernel's to solve a lot of problems with the device....
I find the overheating thing bullcrab. I play Mortal Kombat X, which is a really heavy game on android, and yes it does get hot, but never drops in performance. I think LG doesnt want to unlock the bootloader because they are scared people will mess with the CPU and GPU and ruin the reputation? Its really a shame, because every android i ever had, had a custom rom or atleast root. I bought the flex2 because of the SD810, and slap a custom clean rom on it. But looks like it will never come out. Really hate the LG software on it too. Hopefully the marshmellow update will bring lots of good things.
ilikecars said:
I find the overheating thing bullcrab. I play Mortal Kombat X, which is a really heavy game on android, and yes it does get hot, but never drops in performance. I think LG doesnt want to unlock the bootloader because they are scared people will mess with the CPU and GPU and ruin the reputation? Its really a shame, because every android i ever had, had a custom rom or atleast root. I bought the flex2 because of the SD810, and slap a custom clean rom on it. But looks like it will never come out. Really hate the LG software on it too. Hopefully the marshmellow update will bring lots of good things.
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the G Flex 2 has root, i know it, i have done it with some Users
ilikecars said:
I find the overheating thing bullcrab. I play Mortal Kombat X, which is a really heavy game on android, and yes it does get hot, but never drops in performance. I think LG doesnt want to unlock the bootloader because they are scared people will mess with the CPU and GPU and ruin the reputation? Its really a shame, because every android i ever had, had a custom rom or atleast root. I bought the flex2 because of the SD810, and slap a custom clean rom on it. But looks like it will never come out. Really hate the LG software on it too. Hopefully the marshmellow update will bring lots of good things.
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No no it does indeed overheat but starts throttling by limiting the cpu freq and disabling some cores
However it's still lag free and the heat is like that of my s4 i9500
TheAxiks said:
the G Flex 2 has root, i know it, i have done it with some Users
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Yes indeed it has
copy2050 said:
I am sure if someday the bootloader get's unlocked there will be some exeletn kernel's to solve a lot of problems with the device....
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I want a custom kernel too...
Wanna try over clocking this device to cook food... xD
(want to undervolt actually)
As we know India got the Nougat. Brazil did too. EU finally gets it's share.
Nothing in US, except a soak announced by RepublicWireless. On the official Motorola / lenovo forums you can be banned if you talk about sideloading the Nougat on US devices. While Moto allows unlocking the bootloader by providing the unlock codes (in US they benefit from that by canceling the warranty), they frown upon what happens next. Like people will unlock the bootloader just for the pleasure of giving up the warranty, nothing more.
I was a Moto fan, me and my family owned a Moto DEFY XT (557D), MotoX (1st gen), Moto G (3rd gen), Moto E (2015) and now in use we have a Moto G4 Plus and a Moto X Pure.
Sadly, service (updates) for US is now last in line, bad interactions on their forums, no true international LTE bands support (band 20 is ommited from US phones, even if it is becoming one of the most important in EU for CA and rural).
I was planning to get the next Moto G5, but sadly I will have to move to a different company for my next phone.
What's sad is the fact that for each of us that have purchased their last Moto, there are probably 10 people that's never owned a Moto that will buy it. The US is pretty much the backwater for Lenovo and we probably are only a small fraction of their sales.
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At the price point that they try to sell the new Moto they needed loyal customers. The people that hunt bargains will not go for their inflated prices, not when they have likes of ZTE or Alcatel in the stores. Bad marketing strategy.
SoNic67 said:
At the price point that they try to sell the new Moto they needed loyal customers. The people that hunt bargains will not go for their inflated prices, not when they have likes of ZTE or Alcatel in the stores. Bad marketing strategy.
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I usually get a new phone every two years. I have had my G4 for six months, so I won't make any statements about what I will or won't buy at this time since a lot can change in 18 months. But I will say that Lenova is far from being the only manufacturer to drag their feet on updates. And in reality, I really don't care that much about getting stock upgrades since I unlock and customize every device I have. The custom firmwares are usually much better choices IMHO. So when I am ready to get a new phone (or tablet), the custom ROM choices and development activity will influence me more than whether or not the manufacturer is updating in a timely manner. And introductory prices usually fall in time
Custom firmwares are zero without updated blobs for camera, sensors, modem... That requires manufacturer support.
However my beef is mainly that lenovo had put the US market on backburner.
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Custom firmwares are zero without updated blobs for camera, sensors, modem... That requires manufacturer support.
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All very true. But it seems that the updated drivers for various features are made available long before stock ROM upgrades, thus custom ROM's are also available. In five years of using Android smart phones and tablets, I have never had to wait long for decent custom ROMs based on the latest version as opposed to the long delays for stock upgrades by some manufacturers. Huawei and Asus come to mind.
Anyhow, I wasn't trying to negate anyone's position about the current situation. I merely was stating my own personal opinion and what works for me. My own 2-cents worth so to speak.
US soak seems to be older (-13) than what is out now (-14). Probably is somehow related to the RepublicWireless preloaded app.
I would like to try the US soak test. Has anyone have a URL for it? I heard their was issues but sounds like the same issues I read about Nougat. Any truth to that?
I'm using Nougat 14 and it's having battery drain problems, it's general (check Lenovo forums).
Maybe for that reason they didn't update the US version for now.
Anyway it's taking too much time for be an Android version similar to AOSP, other companies like Huawei have very modified versions and are updating more fast.
Maybe Nokia is going to be what Motorola was. I'm going to wait the Nokia 8 presentation for decide if I buy it or a Moto G5 Plus.
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I usually get a new phone every two years. I have had my G4 for six months, so I won't make any statements about what I will or won't buy at this time since a lot can change in 18 months. But I will say that Lenova is far from being the only manufacturer to drag their feet on updates. And in reality, I really don't care that much about getting stock upgrades since I unlock and customize every device I have. The custom firmwares are usually much better choices IMHO. So when I am ready to get a new phone (or tablet), the custom ROM choices and development activity will influence me more than whether or not the manufacturer is updating in a timely manner. And introductory prices usually fall in time
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The main reason I've stuck with Moto so long is the custom firmware options. It's actually unprecedented for me to be still running a stock rom all this time.
Jplabti said:
I'm using Nougat 14 and it's having battery drain problems, it's general (check Lenovo forums).
Maybe for that reason they didn't update the US version for now.
Anyway it's taking too much time for be an Android version similar to AOSP, other companies like Huawei have very modified versions and are updating more fast.
Maybe Nokia is going to be what Motorola was. I'm going to wait the Nokia 8 presentation for decide if I buy it or a Moto G5 Plus.
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I ran Nougat NPJ25.93-14 for a week and didn't see any battery drain whatsoever. In fact, the battery life was slightly better than any of the custom ROMs I have tried. I would have stuck with it except I missed the advanced boot menu and being able to customize the status bar. Not to mention it still has bloat that I really don't need.
Hi All,
While I was searching for a new device to purchase, this question popped into my head: how do ROM developers decide which devices to support? Admittedly, this question arose because I wanted to find a phone that would be compatible with the most ROMs and is currently still under active development. But I also am genuinely curious as well.
I'm new to the custom ROM scene and just started researching but from what I can understand, most, if not all, developers are doing this on their own free time without any sort of payment. In that case, I would assume, they would only support devices that they have access to, in other words, devices that are currently using and have used. Additionally, developers are probably tech-savvy so I am also assuming that most developers will choose a phone that they think is best. Although what is best is subjective, I believe that there are a common set of desired features which will lead to a couple of devices being more popular than others. As a result, some phones will see support from a wide variety of ROMs while others will see a few or none at all.
I went through a couple of the ROMs I was interested in from this list (https://www.xda-developers.com/the-most-popular-custom-roms-on-xda/), and found that Nexus 5x was common between them all. I can't recall what phone was popular during 2015 but was this phone really so popular/desired that all ROM developers seems to have one lying around in 2019/2020? Its been past 4 years since its launch and I assume that its specs are very outdated compared to what we have now but it is still being supported by many ROMs. What lead to this phone to become such a commonly supported phone by ROM developers?
The Nexus line was at a good price point, good hardware for the time and fully supported factory images from Google with regular updates, next to impossible to hard brick, worked across multiple carriers worldwide, easy to unlock bootloader, custom recoveries available, and popular following. I'm sure I've missed something [emoji846]
Device's that are only available in a limited market, or are unable to be bootloader unlocked, don't have factory images are difficult to support and have a limited following reduces the likelihood that a person interested in developing will buy that phone.
ktmom said:
The Nexus line was at a good price point, good hardware for the time and fully supported factory images from Google with regular updates, next to impossible to hard brick, worked across multiple carriers worldwide, easy to unlock bootloader, custom recoveries available, and popular following. I'm sure I've missed something [emoji846]
Device's that are only available in a limited market, or are unable to be bootloader unlocked, don't have factory images are difficult to support and have a limited following reduces the likelihood that a person interested in developing will buy that phone.
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If you don't mind, could I have your opinion on Moto G5 Plus in regards to ROM support? It appears to be supported by Pixel Experience, AOSP Extended, and ResurrectionRemix so it looks like it has a fair amount of support. However, when I view the top devices page on XDA (https://forum.xda-developers.com/top) I don't see the Moto G5 Plus. Would there be any relationship between the top devices on XDA and devices supported by the most ROMs?
No, there really is not a correlation between the top devices on XDA and ROM support.
The top devices reflects basically the activity within the forum. So new device releases will trigger people's curiosity so even though there may be zero ROM support, the device has activity.
A device like the Moto G5 plus that has been out for awhile, just doesn't have loads of activity in the forums. There is still activity on ROM threads, but it's more sporadic.
Got it, thanks for your help. Looks like I'll just have to keep digging through the forums and rom websites and try to make an educated guess about what device has and will continue having the most rom support.
The lineageOS support for the Nexus 6 is ongoing and that phone was released in 2014. There was a lot of passion surrounding that device, but as developers had their device fail (battery died, screen broken, ect), they moved onto other devices.
My point is, the best you can do is find a popular phone in your price range and hope. The OnePlus series may be worth looking at.
Hey guys, unfortunately it doesn't appear that the Stylo 5 threads are very active, but maybe we have some skilled devs here who may be able to lend a hand at some point. Right now it would appear that there is no hope for root on any Stylo 5, but I believe I may have an idea for someone more skilled than I am to work off of. If anyone follows the V50 threads, you know that root was achieved without a bootloader unlock initially. The G8 was cracked and from there it seemed LG Android 10 phones may have some hope after all. After some deep browsing through the system files that I was able to access without being given the strongarm from the "No root access" message, I noticed that strangely enough, many files are not specific to the Stylo 5 and don't even mention the models name, they are taken straight from the V50 filesystem. We know that LG likes to do this to cut costs anywhere possible, so I'm thinking this could be key in taking the first few real steps towards root.
The G7 was rooted using the V35 engineering bootloader, so this isn't a crazy , out of the question possibility. Take some time and check out as many files as you can get access too and report back. I truly believe that the Stylo 5 has huge potential if we could gain root access and fix LG's shortcomings with this build. The Stylo 5 maybe a budget phone with lower specs but I've used phones with 2 gigs of RAM and a 32-bit OS that have been twice as fast if not three times quicker than the stylo. I have an old Aristo 2 that runs circles around this guy.
I got the green light (from the wife) to order a new phone. A new phone from Verizon in the U.S. This will be my first time picking a phone depending if it can be rooted or not. Actually, if the Bootloader can be unlocked. I got lucky with my previous Samsung phones. The S8 got root but my Note 10 was able to have the Bootloader unlocked. I will not have a locked Bootloader if I have the option.
I was looking at the "Samsung S20 FE", "Pixel 6", or possibly the "Motorola Edge+". What do you guys think? Maybe something else? I will be making payments, so that limits my options.
Number 1 factor is Bootloader unlock, even if I need to pay to have it unlocked like I did with the Note 10.
Thanks Guys!
I go for either a Note 10+ or a N20Ultra, preferably running on Q. You can still find new ones, personally I went with another new N10+ Snapdragon running on Q, no plans to root it.
The new flagship phones aren't worth a rat's arse. Overpriced, no SD card slot, running on R and many have multiple issues.
Or simply wait. So far nothing good in the pipeline from Samsung. I'm not holding my either as I think it may be close to a year or longer until Samsung gets it together.
That I have 2 N10+'s is shows how much confidence I have in new Samsung's and Android OS's releases at this point. Zero. Expect more dropped balls from both.
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