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[ROM][KFHD7][7.4.8] ♦ Kinology 3.3 ♦ 2014/03/12 ♦ Final

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Introducing Kinology - The Premier KFHD7 Custom ROM​
Standard Disclaimer: I cannot be held responsible for loss, damages, or any kind of issue whatsoever that could arise from installing this ROM. You install it at your own risk.
Kinology is the premier custom ROM for the Kindle Fire HD 7" tablet. It will not work on any other device. Kinology should be considered a "hybrid OS"; it contains Amazon's 7.4.8 ICS-based core along with Google's ICS Services Framework and application stack.
Feature list
Installation / Download
Advanced Configuration
Known Issues
History
Screenshots
3.3 will be the last version of Kinology. The 7.4.9 update does not leave enough room on the system partition for the Kinology base. Additionally, that version of the Amazon OS is using server side filtering that prevents many non-Amazon approved applications from working correctly. My investigations into the issue did not turn up an easy fix.
What's new?
3.3 - 2014/03/12
Update the base to 7.4.8 and updated included apps. See the History page linked above for further details.
3.2 - 2013/11/21
Kinology itself is unchanged for this release. Only apps have been updated. See the History page linked above for details.
3.1 - 2013/08/11
Updated the base OS to 7.4.6.
The restart/failure message when flashing the boot zip will only be shown if the recovery is actually changed.
Installers now apply ASLR correctly to all libraries.
Added Adobe Flash Player again, as it no longer causes browsers to crash.
Updated GmsCore, Hangouts, and Play Store in the Google package.
Updated Adobe Air in the Amazon Updates package.
Behind the scenes stuff:
* Added code to the make scripts to build all-in-one installation.
* Modified the make scripts so that .apks with identical code and resources always result in binary-identical files.
* Because of the previous modification, update zips can now be automatically generated.
* Many other changes to the make scripts so that they are more resilient.
3.0. - 2013/07/21
Updated the base OS to 7.4.5.
Fixed the disabled wallpaper issue in 7.4.1.
Removed text on battery icons (a percentage option was added by Amazon).
Updated Gmail, GmsCore, and the Play Store in the Google package, and added Hangouts instead of Talk.
Update SuperSU and included SuperSUNoNag.
Removed Adobe Flash Player as it is not compatible with 7.4.5.
Fixed the install process: the boot zip is now required, but it will only flash items that you do not already have installed.
Separated Amazon app updates from Kinology proper in the install process.
XDA:DevDB Information
Kinology [KFHD7/TATE], ROM for the Amazon 7" Kindle Fire HD
Contributors
JulianPaoloThiry
ROM OS Version: 4.0.x Ice Cream Sandwich
Based On: Amazon OS 7.4.8
Version Information
Status: Stable
Current Stable Version: 3.3
Stable Release Date: 2014-03-12
Created 2014-10-16
Last Updated 2014-10-16

I was just cleaning up my system (Had CM10.1 on it, but was facing issues with Video chat in GTalk) to go back to Kinology 2.0.1 and was facing some boot issues. When I went back to see the potential list of ROMs to try, I noticed this thread.
Edit: Flashed it and seems to be stable so far. Still checking stability of various apps.
Edit 2: Spoke too soon. Just got a random reboot. The screen was in landscape mode and was trying to get it to portrait, it just rebooted.I did a first reboot before setting up the device as mentioned in the installation procedure.
Sequence of events before I got the random reboot: I flashed the files as per the installation procedure (verbatim), did a reboot after the first boot, set up the system, added google accounts, installed nova launcher, set that as my primary launcher, tried hangout, it hung in the Video call, force stopped it, then was editing the message here in the forum, went back to Kindle, was rotating to portrait mode, kindle rebooted.
EDIT 3: I am still getting random reboots trying to play around hangout. I will find GTalk apk from somewhere and install. I will update the status after that.

No flash, no fun . That was one of the best features in android for me, besides the roms. If it's possible, i would love to see a fix for it.
Thanks,
Grwy
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Request to package just Gtalk and allow option to users to upgrade to Hangouts
One humble request: If you could, please let the users decide if they want to upgrade to hangout. I am facing issues with that, and I was able to uninstall updates to go back to GTalk. But given that Hangouts was directly add to the ROM itself, I could not go back to GTalk by just uninstalling it in Playstore.
I will figure a way to get GTalk back. But it was easier to uninstall from play store

raj3366 said:
I will figure a way to get GTalk back.
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I can make an updater zip that replaces Hangouts with Talk. Will probably post it tomorrow sometime.

GreyGeist said:
No flash, no fun . That was one of the best features in android for me, besides the roms. If it's possible, i would love to see a fix for it.
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This bugs me a lot, too. I'm not sure if there will be a solution. Unfortunately, the crash is very low level (in the .so files), so it's very tough to even begin to know how to work around it. I certainly plan to continue working on it, though.

raj3366 said:
I am still getting random reboots trying to play around hangout.
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I successfully made a video call using Hangouts to my phone for testing and didn't get any reboots. I know that's just one anecdote, but if I recall, GTalk's video/voice didn't work very well for some on Kinology 2 either.

JulianPaoloThiry said:
I can make an updater zip that replaces Hangouts with Talk. Will probably post it tomorrow sometime.
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That would be awesome. I tried replacing the Hangouts.apk with Talk.apk in the google update zip. But the signature (SHA1-digest) had to be updated in META-INF/CERT.SF and META-INF/MANIFEST.MF files. So I could not get it working.
I had very good success rate using GTalk in Kinology 2.0. I guess my mileage varies. But having GTalk gives me the freedom to upgrade to Hangouts or stay with GTalk depending on whichever works. Again, that's just my personal opinion.
Thanks for looking into this Julian. I am sending this Kindle to my parents so that I could chat over Video call. I have to get it stabilized before that. They are not tech-savy.
So far I am not seeing any other issues. I will report back, if I run into any.
I can't thank you enough for doing this.:good:

JulianPaoloThiry said:
This bugs me a lot, too. I'm not sure if there will be a solution. Unfortunately, the crash is very low level (in the .so files), so it's very tough to even begin to know how to work around it. I certainly plan to continue working on it, though.
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Alright, thanks. I've always really liked Kinology, but the gapps and lockscreen issues were its downfall for me. Are these fixed yet? In the previous build, gapps constantly crashes (especially chrome), and the lockscreen would randomly disappear.

There is now a download available to rollback from Google Hangouts to Google Talk. Be aware that your launcher's caching may cause the icon and/or name of Hangouts to remain unchanged. Be sure to actually launch the app and check it before claiming that the rollback did not work.
Edit: Hmmmm. Hold off downloading that. I can't seem to find the voice/video options at all now.
Edit: False alarm. Turns out that Google Talk cannot voice/video chat with Google Hangouts users. So if your friends upgrade and you do not, you're SOL. There's nothing wrong with the rollback package, so use it if you like.

GreyGeist said:
the gapps and lockscreen issues were its downfall for me. Are these fixed yet? In the previous build, gapps constantly crashes (especially chrome), and the lockscreen would randomly disappear.
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... no one reported either of those issues previously...
I've used Kinology since it was released and have not seen them. I must admit, however, that I have the lock screen disabled (my Kindle never leaves the house and has a book-like cover), so I wouldn't have noticed that one.
I do use Chrome and most other Google apps, and can't recall them ever crashing. Capturing a logcat dump immediately after a crash and sending it to me is the best way to get that sort of thing identified. The only other workable alternative is to report reproducible steps that always result in a crash.

JulianPaoloThiry said:
There is now a download available to rollback from Google Hangouts to Google Talk. Be aware that your launcher's caching may cause the icon and/or name of Hangouts to remain unchanged. Be sure to actually launch the app and check it before claiming that the rollback did not work.
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Thanks a lot. That solves my problem. I will try it tonight when I get back home and update you. As long as it works with other google talk users, I am good. Is there procedure to repackage it myself? (if you update the google zip, I would not want you to re-package it every time. I would be more than happy to do it myself and share it for those who need that.)
EDIT: I just saw the size of it. I guess no re-packaging necessary. I just need to flash it as the last zip. This even more awesome. Thanks!

Launcher
How do you start up in tablet mode, not Kindle carousel?
Do you need a launcher?

Wind Dancer said:
How do you start up in tablet mode, not Kindle carousel?
Do you need a launcher?
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If you do not want to use the carousel as your default launcher then you will need to install an alternative launcher from the Play Store, such as GO or Nova. The next time you reboot (or press the home button, I think), your Kindle will ask you which launcher to use, at which time you can tell it to stop asking and just use the one you pick.

JulianPaoloThiry said:
If you do not want to use the carousel as your default launcher then you will need to install an alternative launcher from the Play Store, such as GO or Nova. The next time you reboot (or press the home button, I think), your Kindle will ask you which launcher to use, at which time you can tell it to stop asking and just use the one you pick.
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okay, thanks for the confirmation

GreyGeist said:
Alright, thanks. I've always really liked Kinology, but the gapps and lockscreen issues were its downfall for me. Are these fixed yet? In the previous build, gapps constantly crashes (especially chrome), and the lockscreen would randomly disappear.
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Odd, I never had a problems with Gaaps (Google Applications) although I have not liked chrome on any of my Android devices. . .Sorry, I can't compare with lockscreens -since I don't use one on my KFTT, but when I did it was never an issue. . . I hope this new version will be a stable, and dependable as Kinology2 -I am downloading now! (Thanks!) :victory:

Sorry to change topic but does anyone have the full build/version number for 7.4.5, it should be something like this: 7.4.5_D025_XXXXXXX
Thanks

Gilly10 said:
Sorry to change topic but does anyone have the full build/version number for 7.4.5, it should be something like this: 7.4.5_D025_XXXXXXX
Thanks
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4513120

I cat find the update file anywhere the one i found will not manually update. Could you send me the stock update file for 7.4.5. I like to be up to date as much as i can but amazon is not posting this update on there web site and my auto update is not updating to 7.4.5
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Hinzman420 said:
I cat find the update file anywhere the one i found will not manually update. Could you send me the stock update file for 7.4.5. I like to be up to date as much as i can but amazon is not posting this update on there web site and my auto update is not updating to 7.4.5
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I downloaded this 7.4.5 file but since I'm not on stock Amazon OS I can't test it to see if it'll update properly, also supposedly Adobe Flash doesn't play nice with this build.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/kindle-fire-updates/update-kindle-7.4.5_D025_4513120.bin

Error -400 Google Play Store

As you can see in the picture I have an error!
Is there any fix for it?
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Mine has also stopped working but not given a fault code.. Says downloading but no progress

mattan1999 said:
As you can see in the picture I have an error!
Is there any fix for it?
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Try any of the method mentioned in this blog:
http://ahwee321.blogspot.in/2013/10/how-to-fix-play-store-download-error.html?m=1
dchd310870 said:
Mine has also stopped working but not given a fault code.. Says downloading but no progress
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It happened to me several times when WiFi or mobile data connection disconnects several times when download in progress and download manager just says downloading and shows no progress at all. Only way to solve this is cancel download and start again
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I've tried them. None work. Either my app has stopped working or my data isn't working. Although I've cleared caches of the service and the app, cleared data and reinstalled the app with the brand new updates. Nothing has worked

dchd310870 said:
I've tried them. None work. Either my app has stopped working or my data isn't working. Although I've cleared caches of the service and the app, cleared data and reinstalled the app with the brand new updates. Nothing has worked
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Just clear data and cache for download manager under settings/apps or applications/all

Well now i have the same Problem.... Someone finally found a working solution? I am just tired from trying several "fixes" that should have worked. I am at the end. I need help. I have this problem only when I try to install a theme on cyanogenmod 11 snapshot 9 or icon packs. Pls help.
Thank you in advance!
P.S. ok i checked something, and for some reason i can not install any Themes. I am using CM 11 M9 with Go Launcher Pro, Using Xposed with XBlast Tools and some other little tools, but i did not had any problems before. It just happened, and i did not changed anything. Someone got any ideas how to fix that?

If Google Play services is updated try uninstall updates

Same problem here. Tried everything above..
CM11 nightly 20140928.
I can install some themes but most of them bring up error -400.

I guess it has something to do if a keyboard skin is also in there or not. I wanted to install the MIOS FREE - CM11 theme, but the actual update contains a "themed keyboard Latin". I am using the google keyboard from the gapps stock package. Could that be the problem? I installed another icon pack without problems (the FLAT - ICON PACK from the same guy), but the ones with keyboard thingy don't work. Someone got any solution?
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kazuya_kun said:
I guess it has something to do if a keyboard skin is also in there or not. I wanted to install the MIOS FREE - CM11 theme, but the actual update contains a "themed keyboard Latin". I am using the google keyboard from the gapps stock package. Could that be the problem? I installed another icon pack without problems (the FLAT - ICON PACK from the same guy), but the ones with keyboard thingy don't work. Someone got any solution?
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I have the same problem on the same device with the same theme. Before update of 1st october theme installs good and working good. When come update and i push update button, play market bring me error -400. I tried to uninstall it and install again, but error won't disappear. I had read troubleshooting guides including those in this thread, but they doesn't work for me. I noticed, that the theme appears in installed apps, with strange icon and size equal zero (see screenshot).
I have old version of theme (1.8) backuped with Titanium Backup, it restores theme without error, but still theme don't updates. I want to try install theme from .apk file, but i can't find it latest version.
I hope, the problem will be solved in some day.
My device is I9300 with the last CM11 nightly.
Sorry for my english, i using google translate.

We need help
Polotenchick said:
I have the same problem on the same device with the same theme. Before update of 1st october theme installs good and working good. When come update and i push update button, play market bring me error -400. I tried to uninstall it and install again, but error won't disappear. I had read troubleshooting guides including those in this thread, but they doesn't work for me. I noticed, that the theme appears in installed apps, with strange icon and size equal zero (see screenshot).
I have old version of theme (1.8) backuped with Titanium Backup, it restores theme without error, but still theme don't updates. I want to try install theme from .apk file, but i can't find it latest version.
I hope, the problem will be solved in some day.
My device is I9300 with the last CM11 nightly.
Sorry for my english, i using google translate.
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well i have downloaded the newest version (the apk file) from the play store through some program. but trying to install it also results in a fail. Someone here to help us?

It's all very strange. I update my device to today's nightly ( cm-11-20141003-NIGHTLY). In changelog there are changes in themeservice (see screenshot). I thought that now all be ok, but it doesn't, Mios free theme still don't installs. But now error looks different (see screenshot #2). Other themes installs without error, for example Obsidian theme (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.cyanogenmod.obsidian), which have theme for google keyboard. I'm think the last hope is to email developer of the mios theme, maybe he prompts something.

Polotenchick said:
It's all very strange. I update my device to today's nightly ( cm-11-20141003-NIGHTLY). In changelog there are changes in themeservice (see screenshot). I thought that now all be ok, but it doesn't, Mios free theme still don't installs. But now error looks different (see screenshot #2). Other themes installs without error, for example Obsidian theme (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.cyanogenmod.obsidian), which have theme for google keyboard. I'm think the last hope is to email developer of the mios theme, maybe he prompts something.
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I already E-mailed him, and he changed the keyboard in todays update (to black) but it still does not work. I Emailed him again and he told me that he will check it. Lets see how long it will take....
P.S. i am using Xposed module with Xblast tools and activated some minor tweaks, but even after careful checking of everything (the settings doe not have anything in common that could have caused this error) and also disabling the Xposed modules it still does not work.... that is really strange. But seriously.... Is there no one who knows something about themes in this section that can help us?

No one got an idea? Pls i really need help

try it
I learn and read many information but this error happen when your phone or internet had problem!
All fix way processing on your phone. try this way!
Problem
The download is impossible and the request is ''forbidden''. This usually happens when two Google accounts are used to buy applications on one device.
Solution
Go the Google Play Store with the correct Google account. Uninstall the application in question. Next try to get the app from Google Play again and click the purchase button.
2nd Solution
Clear the proxy you have possibly set up by going into the settings, then choose Wireless and Networks (or More) and then Mobile Network. Select APN, which stands for Access Point Name and hit Clear Proxy Option. Afterward you can always reinstated the proxy.
3rd solution
Another solution would be get erase your entire search history which you can do in the Play Store itself by choosing the settings button. Next, select Clear search history.
4th solution
Try creating a new Google account and using it instead for the Play Store. Go to the Google Play, and select the menu button again. Then select accounts and choose the new Gmail account. Then re-install the app.

huunam0241 said:
I learn and read many information but this error happen when your phone or internet had problem!
All fix way processing on your phone. try this way!
Problem
The download is impossible and the request is ''forbidden''. This usually happens when two Google accounts are used to buy applications on one device.
Solution
Go the Google Play Store with the correct Google account. Uninstall the application in question. Next try to get the app from Google Play again and click the purchase button.
2nd Solution
Clear the proxy you have possibly set up by going into the settings, then choose Wireless and Networks (or More) and then Mobile Network. Select APN, which stands for Access Point Name and hit Clear Proxy Option. Afterward you can always reinstated the proxy.
3rd solution
Another solution would be get erase your entire search history which you can do in the Play Store itself by choosing the settings button. Next, select Clear search history.
4th solution
Try creating a new Google account and using it instead for the Play Store. Go to the Google Play, and select the menu button again. Then select accounts and choose the new Gmail account. Then re-install the app.
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i have tried everything that you listed and all other things mentioned in the internet already. But strangely enough, Error -400 is almost nowhere to be found.... really odd

kazuya_kun said:
i have tried everything that you listed and all other things mentioned in the internet already. But strangely enough, Error -400 is almost nowhere to be found.... really odd
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Happened to me as well. After some digging in, I noticed, my phone date was wrong. After fixing the date, the downloads started. Hope this helps someone.

Need Google play services apk for verizon galaxy s III

I recently received a Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III with android 4.4.2 from a friend, but it doesn't have Google play services, nor does it have Google play installed. I tried a factory reset but that didn't work and I found out you need a specific Google play services app or it wont work. The usb port is also broken so I cant hook it up to a computer. Please help.

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The-10th-Doctor said:
I recently received a Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III with android 4.4.2 from a friend, but it doesn't have Google play services, nor does it have Google play installed. I tried a factory reset but that didn't work and I found out you need a specific Google play services app or it wont work. The usb port is also broken so I cant hook it up to a computer. Please help.
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I have several play services apk files but I'm not on the locked bootloader. Unsure if it will work, I know where to find versions if your requesting a specific one
And that's very odd that it doesn't have play installed. Most come pre installed especially on a verizon rom
From my CM11 S3

He said he rooted it before and accidentally uninstalled Google play services and that he couldn't find the right one to reinstall either, so that's why it doesn't have it on there. Also, I need the right apk for my phone because I read that you need the one with a specific three number ending in the app version, but I don't know what mine is because my phone doesn't have the app so I can't check the last three numbers and I have tried a couple apks before but they didn't work

The-10th-Doctor said:
He said he rooted it before and accidentally uninstalled Google play services and that he couldn't find the right one to reinstall either, so that's why it doesn't have it on there. Also, I need the right apk for my phone because I read that you need the one with a specific three number ending in the app version, but I don't know what mine is because my phone doesn't have the app so I can't check the last three numbers and I have tried a couple apks before but they didn't work
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Unsure how to help then
From my CM11 S3

If someone that has a Verizon Galaxy s III running android 4.4.2 Kitkat could post a screenshot of the app info of Google play services, or just post the full version number from the app info under application manager, I would probably be able to find the right apk.

I have another S3 here at my house, my gfs S3 but she has it with her, I could get that if you can wait. Your call
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I am able to wait. It's not like I'll die if I don't have google play services.

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Here is a screen shot of play services, stock 4.4.2 Verizon S3.
I may be wrong, but if you get the play store installed won't it download and install play services? Is been awhile since I've had to mess with it.
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Here is a screen shot of play services, stock 4.4.2 Verizon S3.
I may be wrong, but if you get the play store installed won't it download and install play services? Is been awhile since I've had to mess with it.
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I haven't tried installing google play store before trying to install services. Maybe it does download and install services, I'll have to try it. Thanks for the screenshot as well.

So I installed google play store 5.0.38, and when I open it the screen to either login in or create an account appears and I put in my info and hit sign in but a message appears (in attached screen shot) and i cant sign in but i can sign in to google through my browse, and I've tried my neighbors internet (with his consent) just to check its not just mine, but it doesnt work on my neighbors either. Any ideas?

The-10th-Doctor said:
So I installed google play store 5.0.38, and when I open it the screen to either login in or create an account appears and I put in my info and hit sign in but a message appears (in attached screen shot) and i cant sign in but i can sign in to google through my browse, and I've tried my neighbors internet (with his consent) just to check its not just mine, but it doesnt work on my neighbors either. Any ideas?
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Try installing Google play services...
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ShapesBlue said:
Try installing Google play services...
From my CM11 S3
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I just installed google play services (same one as roaddogg) but I am still getting the same error.

The-10th-Doctor said:
So I installed google play store 5.0.38, and when I open it the screen to either login in or create an account appears and I put in my info and hit sign in but a message appears (in attached screen shot) and i cant sign in but i can sign in to google through my browse, and I've tried my neighbors internet (with his consent) just to check its not just mine, but it doesnt work on my neighbors either. Any ideas?
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I'm not home right now, but give me a bit and I will try and pull my play services and get it to you. Not having it may be your sign in problems.
Oops, just noticed the last couple posts. I can still get you mine if you need it. Also, check and see if play services is actually running.
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roaddog665 said:
I'm not home right now, but give me a bit and I will try and pull my play services and get it to you. Not having it may be your sign in problems.
Oops, just noticed the last couple posts. I can still get you mine if you need it. Also, check and see if play services is actually running.
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Google play services is running, I'll attach a screenshot of it with this post. But if its not too much of a hassle, the apk from your phone might work.

The-10th-Doctor said:
Google play services is running, I'll attach a screenshot of it with this post. But if its not too much of a hassle, the apk from your phone might work.
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Sent you a PM.
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So thanks to talking with roaddog we were able to figure out that i didnt have them installed as system apps (I didnt know how, as i'm new to this) he told me how and once they were installed as system apps and after i rebooted, I signed in to my google account and it worked and so do all google apps!

The-10th-Doctor said:
So thanks to talking with roaddog we were able to figure out that i didnt have them installed as system apps (I didnt know how, as i'm new to this) he told me how and once they were installed as system apps and after i rebooted, I signed in to my google account and it worked and so do all google apps!
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Glad to hear it worked out, I had a feeling you needed play services installed which is why I suggested it. Roaddog thanks for helping with all of this
From my CM11 S3

ShapesBlue said:
Glad to hear it worked out, I had a feeling you needed play services installed which is why I suggested it. Roaddog thanks for helping with all of this
From my CM11 S3
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Glad to help. I've needed plenty myself and have anyways found someone on here that was willing.
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Android Pay on Rooted devices?

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So I saw an article on Reddit explaining how to enable Android pay on devices right now. Figured I'd give it a shot. So, following the steps on my rooted LG G4 from Verizon, I downloaded and updated to the most recent Google Play Services from http://apkmirror.com, created a shortcut with Nova Launcher (widgets>activities>Google Play Services> Android Pay) and opened it up. It took me to a menu from the Google Play Services settings app which isn't visible if you open the app directly. Runs you through a few prompts enabling it as the default payment app, and sends you back to the settings page. At the bottom you can add a card, which, if you used Google Wallet before, it will load all your cards from there. Enter the CVC of your card, agree to the terms and conditions, and it sits and loads. A few seconds later, the above error message shows up. Repeated this process a few times, and same result. So, I hopped on over to my non-rooted Galaxy S6 Edge from Sprint, and repeated the process. First time through, it activated with no error messages. So, this leads me to believe that Android pay does not work on a rooted device. Can anyone confirm/deny my suspicions?

I know it will not work. You can try apps that will hide your root. But sometimes it still won't work. It's because a rooted phone is less secure than a non rooted phone.
That's what the pay apps think anyways so it won't let you install.
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th3av3ng3r said:
So I saw an article on Reddit explaining how to enable Android pay on devices right now. Figured I'd give it a shot. So, following the steps on my rooted LG G4 from Verizon, I downloaded and updated to the most recent Google Play Services from apkmirror.com, created a shortcut with Nova Launcher (widgets>activities>Google Play Services> Android Pay) and opened it up. It took me to a menu from the Google Play Services settings app which isn't visible if you open the app directly. Runs you through a few prompts enabling it as the default payment app, and sends you back to the settings page. At the bottom you can add a card, which, if you used Google Wallet before, it will load all your cards from there. Enter the CVC of your card, agree to the terms and conditions, and it sits and loads. A few seconds later, the above error message shows up. Repeated this process a few times, and same result. So, I hopped on over to my non-rooted Galaxy S6 Edge from Sprint, and repeated the process. First time through, it activated with no error messages. So, this leads me to believe that Android pay does not work on a rooted device. Can anyone confirm/deny my suspicions?
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Use Rootcloak to hide root from google play services. I have the LG G4 on verizon as well, which version of the apk did you download? was it 248?

mfun89 said:
Use Rootcloak to hide root from google play services. I have the LG G4 on verizon as well, which version of the apk did you download? was it 248?
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I tried Rootcloak, both the play store edition and the Xposed edition. Neither one worked, just resulted in Google Play Services crashing every time I tried to add a card. After doing a bit of seaching, I found another Reddit thread that said you can disable root in SuperSU, add your cards, and then enable root again. So far I haven't had any luck.
As to the apk version, it was 248.

Success!!
Update: It's been figured out. One, it checks for root. Easily fixable by going into SuperSU and disabling it. Two, it checks for stock DPI. So what I did, in order of operation, was I restored the unmodified build.prop for my phone, rebooted, went into SuperSU, disabled the app (not the options toward the bottom for switching root apps or unrooting, the one at the top of the settings page), and opened Android Pay. Seeing as we now have an apk for the full app, I opened that, but it works even if you haven't gotten it yet. Add your cards and such and you can enable root again. For some reason I restored my edited build.prop and it worked just fine, so it must be just an initial check when you add cards. Anyway, have fun and hit thanks if I helped at all!

th3av3ng3r said:
Update: It's been figured out. One, it checks for root. Easily fixable by going into SuperSU and disabling it. Two, it checks for stock DPI. So what I did, in order of operation, was I restored the unmodified build.prop for my phone, rebooted, went into SuperSU, disabled the app (not the options toward the bottom for switching root apps or unrooting, the one at the top of the settings page), and opened Android Pay. Seeing as we now have an apk for the full app, I opened that, but it works even if you haven't gotten it yet. Add your cards and such and you can enable root again. For some reason I restored my edited build.prop and it worked just fine, so it must be just an initial check when you add cards. Anyway, have fun and hit thanks if I helped at all!
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Are you on stock firmware or are you running a custom ROM?

th3av3ng3r said:
Update: It's been figured out. One, it checks for root. Easily fixable by going into SuperSU and disabling it. Two, it checks for stock DPI. So what I did, in order of operation, was I restored the unmodified build.prop for my phone, rebooted, went into SuperSU, disabled the app (not the options toward the bottom for switching root apps or unrooting, the one at the top of the settings page), and opened Android Pay. Seeing as we now have an apk for the full app, I opened that, but it works even if you haven't gotten it yet. Add your cards and such and you can enable root again. For some reason I restored my edited build.prop and it worked just fine, so it must be just an initial check when you add cards. Anyway, have fun and hit thanks if I helped at all!
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Awesome! This worked! Thank you!

Devo7v said:
Are you on stock firmware or are you running a custom ROM?
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Stock firmware with Xposed.
Update: Not sure what it was, maybe because I added it as a new card, but my local bank debit card didn't work at McDonald's on my G4 today, yet the same card worked perfectly on my edge. Will do more testing, maybe it's just the way I added it because I'm pretty sure its not gonna be compatible unless it's "grandfathered" in from Google Wallet.

Is Xposed perhaps causing this issue? I'm having it too, on an AT&T S5 rooted stock with Xposed. Also what about KNOX? This is so @$% annoying
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Also is there a way to revert back to the functional google wallet app?
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Hey I figured it out, all you have to do is disable superuser like people have said, but before you do you need to uninstall xposed framework, then reboot, and bam worked for me. Goodluck

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Is Xposed perhaps causing this issue? I'm having it too, on an AT&T S5 rooted stock with Xposed. Also what about KNOX? This is so @$% annoying
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Also is there a way to revert back to the functional google wallet app?
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Hey I figured it out, all you have to do is disable superuser like people have said, but before you do you need to uninstall xposed framework, then reboot, and bam worked for me. Goodluck
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I cannot say as to KNOX, but I have heard reports that it will not work if it has been tripped. Regarding Xposed, I still have it enabled with a few modules, mainly App Settings to change the DPI back to stock for Android Pay, Google Play Services, and Google Services Framework. Do all that, reboot, disable Superuser, and you should be good to go. I've found that RootCloak doesn't work, but it seems to be hit and miss among devices.
Reverting back to Google Wallet should be as simple as downgrading your Google Play Services to before Android Pay, uninstall Android Pay, and re-install the old Google Wallet from http://apkmirror.com. No promises as to how long it will work, but it should work for a few weeks, maybe even a month or two.

Well I got it working, but when I tried to use it at Whole Foods, it didn't work, it didn't even try. I had NFC on, and it did not try to do anything no matter what I did or what position the phone was. Seems beta right now......

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Doesn't work on rooted Moto X with no xposed.
Tried disabling SuperSU as well as Rootcloak, including multiple reboots and wiping app data.
No go. F google. Then I won't use your payment system. Only wanted to get the BB $20 anyhow.

andTab said:
Doesn't work on rooted Moto X with no xposed.
Tried disabling SuperSU as well as Rootcloak, including multiple reboots and wiping app data.
No go. F google. Then I won't use your payment system. Only wanted to get the BB $20 anyhow.
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Have you gotten around to trying a full wipe install, and latest experimental systemless SuperSU?
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[Help] GMS (sort) of working?

Hi everyone,
So although that I had made attempts to successfully install gms without any errors, I did not fully succeed in any of the guides. My firmware was 114 or 117 (don't remember now) and I tried several times with this firmware, as well as with 121 firmware (the only update I had).
So far, Google photos, Google maps, Google drive, YouTube, whatsapp, all work, however I am getting the notification "device is not play protect certified" when I open them (attached).
NEVERTHELESS, I do note foll:
- whatsapp backup successfully restored from Google drive, - Google photos sync and backup successfully between devices
- maps work (haven't actually navigated, but seems that everything is calculated properly).
-Contacts have synced with my Google contacts
-Gmail app works, but whenever I launch the app I get a banner saying "Google is having trouble with play services. Please try again", however I can see behind the banner that all new mails are there, but if i click the compose msg button, then I keep getting the error and cannot proceed.
-What I noticed though is that no any app currently installed on my p20 pro has been restored from play store on the p40 pro.
-i have NO notifications from Google apps
-Google search app works only for searching, I have no cards displayed on Google feed and it shows that I am not signed in, although all other Google apps have me properly signed in.
-Google Home does not work, since it does not allow me to sign in.
-Youtube works normally without any errors, actually I am also receiving notifications of newly uploaded videos :/
What the heck is going on? How come they partly work since my device is not certified and I am getting the notification page in all Google apps when they first launch?
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IMO you should factory reset the phone and try another method for installing GMS until you find one that works for you. I tried a few and this way I was able to made it: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=83303057&postcount=262
It seems it is not possible to have both notifications and play store working together, so you use Icebox to freeze Google Play after restoring your purchased in order to have notifications. Then use a replacement store like Aurora.
Good luck and don't give up ?

I have Google installed, with Google Play and notifications active (I don't know if that metod still works)
https://youtu.be/SrRW5ZcX1M0
A friend had installed Google on Mate30 pro yesterday and today from here:
https://youtu.be/VA-gyruGORo
https://youtu.be/J141DvUxIrU

I've tried both of these methods and both work on my P40 Pro with firmware .131. I've now updated to August security patch .154 and all Google services are still working fine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fTIZFehwlw&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA-gyruGORo This is the one I am currently using for the last few weeks with no problems at all.
Good luck and don't give up

sko4a said:
IMO you should factory reset the phone and try another method for installing GMS until you find one that works for you. I tried a few and this way I was able to made it: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=83303057&postcount=262
It seems it is not possible to have both notifications and play store working together, so you use Icebox to freeze Google Play after restoring your purchased in order to have notifications. Then use a replacement store like Aurora.
Good luck and don't give up [emoji846]
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Thanks mate
I tried many methods so far, the one you used, one from a German guy, the other from the Portuguese guy (video in English) but all more or less resulted the same.
What I cannot understand is whether I do have play services working after all, or not, since as I said, my content syncs, although I am getting the non-certified error. Ok, and I do not have notifications from gapss.. [emoji23]
So I am really really confused.
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Shymmy said:
I have Google installed, with Google Play and notifications active (I don't know if that metod still works)
https://youtu.be/SrRW5ZcX1M0
A friend had installed Google on Mate30 pro yesterday and today from here:
https://youtu.be/VA-gyruGORo
https://youtu.be/J141DvUxIrU
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I will try the second one, first already tried, thanks! [emoji3]
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potsykate said:
I've tried both of these methods and both work on my P40 Pro with firmware .131. I've now updated to August security patch .154 and all Google services are still working fine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fTIZFehwlw&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA-gyruGORo This is the one I am currently using for the last few weeks with no problems at all.
Good luck and don't give up
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Mine didn't work with that, or did it? I really don't know what to say. It's just weird, I have my content but I have this error and I don't have any notifications, yet everything syncs. Google photos sync automatically between my p20 pro and the p40 pro, etc
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potsykate said:
I've tried both of these methods and both work on my P40 Pro with firmware .131. I've now updated to August security patch .154 and all Google services are still working fine.
&feature=youtu.be
This is the one I am currently using for the last few weeks with no problems at all.
Good luck and don't give up
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How to downgrade? Some tutorial just downloading firmware with checking firmware approve or not approve. Is it safe to install with differen region firmware? Or all firmware just the same and can be installed to all devices?

dalfshiro said:
How to downgrade? Some tutorial just downloading firmware with checking firmware approve or not approve. Is it safe to install with differen region firmware? Or all firmware just the same and can be installed to all devices?
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No, it is not save to install a firmware that does not suite to your device. In best case it just can't be installed, in worst case you'll brick your phone. This is at least what I think and what a heard from other user reports in this forum. Do you have difficulties to find the right firmware?

thanito said:
Hi everyone,
So although that I had made attempts to successfully install gms without any errors, I did not fully succeed in any of the guides. My firmware was 114 or 117 (don't remember now) and I tried several times with this firmware, as well as with 121 firmware (the only update I had).
So far, Google photos, Google maps, Google drive, YouTube, whatsapp, all work, however I am getting the notification "device is not play protect certified" when I open them (attached).
NEVERTHELESS, I do note foll:
- whatsapp backup successfully restored from Google drive, - Google photos sync and backup successfully between devices
- maps work (haven't actually navigated, but seems that everything is calculated properly).
-Contacts have synced with my Google contacts
-Gmail app works, but whenever I launch the app I get a banner saying "Google is having trouble with play services. Please try again", however I can see behind the banner that all new mails are there, but if i click the compose msg button, then I keep getting the error and cannot proceed.
-What I noticed though is that no any app currently installed on my p20 pro has been restored from play store on the p40 pro.
-i have NO notifications from Google apps
-Google search app works only for searching, I have no cards displayed on Google feed and it shows that I am not signed in, although all other Google apps have me properly signed in.
-Google Home does not work, since it does not allow me to sign in.
-Youtube works normally without any errors, actually I am also receiving notifications of newly uploaded videos :/
What the heck is going on? How come they partly work since my device is not certified and I am getting the notification page in all Google apps when they first launch?
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So what I can say from my side, Gmail app works for me. And Google Home allows me to sign in. Anyway I don´t use this app, so I cannot say more about it.
On the other side I had problems with syncing contacts and calendar.. but I found a solution.
Maybe the "functionality" refers to the firmware, maybe the GMS installation is just not "perfect".
Any other apps, that don´t work for you.? I can install them on my phone and try, if they are not country related, as "food delivery service" you´ve mentioned?
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thanito said:
First of all, thanks vm for your assistance
You can try to search for "efood delivery" , but even netflix does not let me sign in, although their behavior is different; when i click sign in to netflix, i get the pop up abt the device not being certified, then takes me back to initial netflix screen. In the efood app, I click to launch the app, i get the error and then the app closes again. The weird thing is that efood is also in appGallery (huawei native store), so supposedly it should work.
To be honest, I love huawei devices for their build quality, cameras, battery performance and I have been debating with myself on whether I should buy the p40 pro (i really need google apps for so many reasons- home automation by using google home, etc), but I guess I am screwed; unless I make things work properly i will have to keep using my p20 pro.
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I just installed efood delivery, at least it lets me to sign in via facebook.
Concerning Netflix. It doesn´t work on some devices. I had problems with OnePlus and also with my Huawei P40 Pro at the beginning. Now it works (after installing through Aurora Store I think). I don´t think it is GSM related. For me it works. But there are some solutions in the app-section on XDA.

Flying Fox said:
So what I can say from my side, Gmail app works for me. And Google Home allows me to sign in. Anyway I don´t use this app, so I cannot say more about it.
On the other side I had problems with syncing contacts and calendar.. but I found a solution.
Maybe the "functionality" refers to the firmware, maybe the GMS installation is just not "perfect".
Any other apps, that don´t work for you.? I can install them on my phone and try, if they are not country related, as "food delivery service" you´ve mentioned?
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The installation is far from perfect i tell you that
Let me ask you something, so if you have a successful gms installation, i take it that after that you have to freeze gsf in order to have push notifications of you have normal push notifications?I am somewhat confused on this. Do you have to freeze gsf to have push and then to unfreeze only when you want to use playstore?

thanito said:
The installation is far from perfect i tell you that
Let me ask you something, so if you have a successful gms installation, i take it that after that you have to freeze gsf in order to have push notifications of you have normal push notifications?I am somewhat confused on this. Do you have to freeze gsf to have push and then to unfreeze only when you want to use playstore?
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No, I didn´t freeze anything. But as I remember it didn´t work from the beginning. I tried so many things and actually I don´t know why everything is working now. I should have written down all my steps . I think I also updated Google services. For syncing contacts I had to downgrade GoogleContactsSyncAdapter.
And I still didn´t recognize, if I get all the notifications that are possible. But I get them for my mails and all other messages (using signal for sms), whatsapp and I don´t miss anything.
If I understood correctly you imported your apps from your P20? Another idea, that there is a conflict with this method? I didn´t have this opportunity as I came from a non huawei device. I had to install all my apps from scratch using Aurora as well as Playstore especially for my paid apps.

Flying Fox said:
No, I didn´t freeze anything. But as I remember it didn´t work from the beginning. I tried so many things and actually I don´t know why everything is working now. I should have written down all my steps . I think I also updated Google services. For syncing contacts I had to downgrade GoogleContactsSyncAdapter.
And I still didn´t recognize, if I get all the notifications that are possible. But I get them for my mails and all other messages (using signal for sms), whatsapp and I don´t miss anything.
If I understood correctly you imported your apps from your P20? Another idea, that there is a conflict with this method? I didn´t have this opportunity as I came from a non huawei device. I had to install all my apps from scratch using Aurora as well as Playstore especially for my paid apps.
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Since I had nothing to lose (phone not being properly setup with gms) I restored my p20 pro backup via hisuite. All my data, even home screen, were restored, minus 76 apps which failed for no apparent reason, I just saw a msg that 76 apps did not complete restoration (I have more than 250 apps installed normally)
Now I am pairing my Samsung watch active 2 to see if this works, but as I see it, I will have to try again from scratch.
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thanito said:
Since I had nothing to lose (phone not being properly setup with gms) I restored my p20 pro backup via hisuite. All my data, even home screen, were restored, minus 76 apps which failed for no apparent reason, I just saw a msg that 76 apps did not complete restoration (I have more than 250 apps installed normally)
Now I am pairing my Samsung watch active 2 to see if this works, but as I see it, I will have to try again from scratch.
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Of course I cannot know but HiSuite could be the problem, especially if you restore data from a different device. Did you just restore app data or also system data? I´m not firm with HiSuite, but also with former devices I sometimes had conflicts by using backup apps - one reason I miss root.... but I knew it before and still happy with Huawei and the given solutions here on XDA.
So yes, maybe give it a second try, but please don´t make me responsible if you brick your phone ... Good luck!
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Or you try to reset all your settings first through the phone´s menu. Maybe you have also restored settings from your older device which cause a conflict now.

Flying Fox said:
Of course I cannot know but HiSuite could be the problem, especially if you restore data from a different device. Did you just restore app data or also system data? I´m not firm with HiSuite, but also with former devices I sometimes had conflicts by using backup apps - one reason I miss root.... but I knew it before and still happy with Huawei and the given solutions here on XDA.
So yes, maybe give it a second try, but please don´t make me responsible if you brick your phone ... Good luck!
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Or you try to reset all your settings first through the phone´s menu. Maybe you have also restored settings from your older device which cause a conflict now.
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I will try to start from scratch again today if I have some time to spare. Did you install MicroG as well?

thanito said:
I will try to start from scratch again today if I have some time to spare. Did you install MicroG as well?
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No, both is not possible.

Flying Fox said:
No, both is not possible.
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Meaning? Is there a way to install microG and have everything working without this trick?

thanito said:
Meaning? Is there a way to install microG and have everything working without this trick?
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I don´t think so. Maybe you take a look into this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hu...-to-google-notifications-gms-sketchy-t4142659.
Especially the first post will answer your question, and also #13 of the OP:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=83212197&postcount=13

Flying Fox said:
I don´t think so. Maybe you take a look into this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hu...-to-google-notifications-gms-sketchy-t4142659.
Especially the first post will answer your question, and also #13 of the OP:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=83212197&postcount=13
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Thanks mate, it starts getting a bit more clear now[emoji16]
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I also noted that in my setting menu when I select Google account it just keeps loading, is it the same in yours?
P.s: yesterday I inserted my sim cards and got a notification for 154 update, finally.. [emoji23] (although I won't be doing the update until I get this working)
FOR the time being, with my device as is, I would say that I could use it if I had Google home working (my local food app suddenly started to work), even though I am getting the error page when I open apps, since it seems that at the same time apps are working. Any solution on that?
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