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So the OnePLUS One is available on Oppo mart but has anyone purchased it through this method? I am very curious as to how legit it is and whether the experience was good. Thanks for any advice.
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2770622 it is a pre-existing thread with a lot of pages in regards to what you're asking about.
Be wary though, I'm pretty sure that the Chinese OPO (which is what Oppomart is selling) is not compatible with LTE on carriers that use LTE bands 4 and 17.
You will need to buy the International version (Says Cyanogen on the back of the phone) in order to have those bands.
I have a opo from oppo mart. In the us I get hspa+ on tnobile but no lte. Its not that bad I like it. Feeds my needs with no problem.
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I'm looking at replacing my S4 with an S7. My carrier in the US is AT&T and that won't be changing. I've been looking at different unlocked versions and can't find a solid representation of what the real world differences are. I know they have different processors. Some say a band is missing, but does that matter. I don't use android or samsung pay, but i know there is a difference here too. I found one comment about some kind of samsung 'coverage' plan, but what is that?
Best Buy has US unlocked phones for about $700. B&H Photo has an International phone for about $640. Its a lot of money either way. Is one phone really better or different than that other?
I am planning a trip through Canada and maybe to Europe. I assume either would take a SIM from those areas and I could avoid getting raped by international fees.
Here is a summary of question I can think of:
Does the US unlocked phone from BestBuy have a warranty or insurance or anything like that?
Can the US phone be rooted. I only do this to remove apps I don't use.
Is the hardware one vs the other really better or just different?
Does a dual SIM do anything useful?
Does a band being missing make a real world difference?
Is there a good comparison somewhere to that can decide on a phone to purchase?
It comes with a limited warranty as stated on their site:
"This device is not warrantied through the manufacturer. This device has a limited 1 year warranty provided by CCR Warranty. To obtain technical or warranty assistance, please contact CCR Warranty at 866-579-8436."
What I don't know is how useful/limited that warranty is. I'd like the HTC 10 but the unlocked S7 is my runner up, and the warranty issue is one of the major factors in my hesitation.
I do believe it can be rooted.
As far as I know, through research, the only major difference between the two is battery life.
Hello, I'll just go straight to the answers.
1. I'm going to assume that if you go through a carrier (att, t-mobile etc etc.) they will offer an insurance plan. You will have to go to third party insurance for the international version
2. As far I know, the US version does not have a root option yet. Because of the locked bootloader.
3. Hardware will depend on which version you choose. Both are very good.
4. Dual sim is as the name implies, you'll be able to use 2 separate sim cards with their respective #s. that's the only benefit really.
5. Missing radio bands is something you may have to do some research on depending your location.
6. I'm sure YouTube or some online site will have some reviews/comparison of both.
I just looked at the best buy website again and something is different. The S7 listed for $690 is definitely the international version and not the US version. When I looked last month I was positive that the phone was listed as a US phone ... huh
A little late
a little late to the thread but just wanted to share what I learned while researching the matter.
There is an US unlocked version of the S7 (g930u) and available through a few places (Best Buy, B&H, Ebay). It goes for $679.99 retail and I have not been able to find one that goes for less. Probably because it just came out end of June. The biggest benefit of it is that it has a bunch of bands and CDMA-compatible. Thus, you can get full connection with AT&T and TMobile. Downside is no wifi calling or VOLTE (as those seem to be locked by the carriers to their own phones).
The international versions (930f/930fd) are both available on Ebay/Swappa for about $500. Upside are that they have the Exnyos chip and no bloatware. You can also root and flash them with new ROM. Another thing is that you get updates earlier. I got Marshmallow on my s6 a month or so before AT&T released its update. Downsides are no Samsung Pay or WiFi Calling/VOLTE and the biggie...missing bands. I had a g920i and it was missing support for bands 29 and 30 on AT&T...this led to poor LTE and indoor reception at times. I would have to turn on/off the mobile data switch sometimes to get good connection.
Finally, we have carrier based versions, which loads you down with bloatware and has the Snapdragon chip. But, it does support all features of your carrier. Slower updates also an issue and lack of support of all bands internationally are additional drawbacks. Cost is also about $500.
Personally, I am going with an unlocked 930a. Bloatware sucks but I can delete or disable almost all of them. Snapdragon seems pretty powerful to me. Samsung Pay, Wifi Calling, and Band support are just too important for me. Note, make sure you ask the seller on Ebay/Swappa about whether the phone is unlocked.
Hope that helps.
I did a lot of research into this before buying my S7 but was kind of screwed since I'm on Verizon (CDMA)...
Since you're on AT&T you have more options.
There are two different processors in the two different models, Snapdragon 820 in the US CDMA capable and an Eyxnos in the International GSM ONLY phone.
After doing my research, I personally recommend the Eyxnos, which I couldn't get :/
If for nothing else, better battery life, by far. Do some research into the comparison between the two.
However! When buying from Best Buy be careful!
Last I checked, on their website, the black/onyx S7 was an unlocked US Snapdragon 820 phone.... while strangely enough the other two, gold and silver? were both unlocked US (actually international) Eyxnos phones.
Also, last I checked Samsung themselves only sell the CDMA snapdragon processor model to the US.
Unless Best Buy made a mistake listing the Eyxnos processor, it is the only way to get that model without buying an "internationally sourced" phone on ebay.
Just a few notes:
1) The G930u is fully compatible with all the US Carriers
2) VoLTE works on both T-Mobile and Verizon
3) Wi-Fi Calling works on T-Mobile and potentially Verizon (but I am not positive about Verizon).
The big downside to the G930u is that for whatever reason it is not receiving updates from Samsung when its branded siblings are.
Hi everyone,
So I'm moving to the US for a couple months this summer, and realized that I will need to buy a data plan (I've been to the US before, and my home plan abroad was pretty expensive, and not very reliable). I'm not really familiar with how bands work, and I want to make sure that whichever carrier I choose, will have the bands compatible with my phone. I have the global (Snapdragon 625) version of the Xiaomi Redmi Note 4.
I checked Verizon's website, and there, it says that my phone is not compatible with Verizon (it didn't say that it's because it's using the wrong bands, but I don't really know what else can be the problem). So my question is: which carriers can be good for my phone?
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Hi everyone, So I'm moving to the US for a couple months this summer, and realized that I will need to buy a data plan (I've been to the US before, and my home plan abroad was pretty expensive, and not very reliable). I'm not really familiar with how bands work, and I want to make sure that whichever carrier I choose, will have the bands compatible with my phone. I have the global (Snapdragon 625) version of the Xiaomi Redmi Note 4...
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I don't have this device but, your best bet is to post this question within the following Q&A thread that's specific to your device.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3527620
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Hello,
I would like to know the following:
1. Based on the Samsung's Unpacked - Part 2 event, there was a slide / presentation that revealed a 512 GB storage option - so, which market / model would have this?
See attached image.
2. Presuming following the Note 20 Ultra 5G., HK version - which is based on the snapdragon variant, unlock-able bootloader, which means rootable, correct?
3. What the various model numbers for various regions?
3. Will the Thom Browne Edition come in 512 GB?
Thanks.
Very good questions. I saw an ad on ebay that was selling (pre-order) a 512GB so now I'm curious to know what the story is
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...432164&hash=item3b4cbda32d:g:CR8AAOSwK1dfOjtl
Swarai said:
Very good questions. I saw an ad on ebay that was selling (pre-order) a 512GB so now I'm curious to know what the story is
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...432164&hash=item3b4cbda32d:g:CR8AAOSwK1dfOjtl
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China only I believe I read?
Got some answers ...
karthigan said:
Hello,
I would like to know the following:
1. Based on the Samsung's Unpacked - Part 2 event, there was a slide / presentation that revealed a 512 GB storage option - so, which market / model would have this?
See attached image.
2. Presuming following the Note 20 Ultra 5G., HK version - which is based on the snapdragon variant, unlock-able bootloader, which means rootable, correct?
3. What the various model numbers for various regions?
3. Will the Thom Browne Edition come in 512 GB?
Thanks.
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So, I have an update from Samsung Canada - Chat online (the lpcdn.lpsnmedia.net website for the chat session - since it appears the original chat session never gets connected to an "actual" agent), if you need the direct chat link URL, let me know.
1. 512GB variant is only available in selective markets - according to the internal documents - 512GB is stated as *TBD* - but the chat agent thinks it will likely be the South Korea Variant, and HK Variant only. But also it could be released much later than the original launch date.
3. Thom Browne Edition WILL NOT come in 512 GB, it is only 256 GB.
Also, since you CAN NOT pre-order the Thom Browne Edition on Samsung's Canada's Website - it is again, *TBD* - out of the limited quantities available - Samsung Inventory Management Department (I was quoted to SIMD by the agent) - every region will have a certain quantity for order, and once done, there is no way to order it, unless third party web sites (wondamobile, pda plaza, swiftronics, etc.) carries then.
Not sure if I should take these answers with "grains of salt" or if this agent was actually knowledgeable. The agent's name was Paula.
So, we'll see.
Hitman3984 said:
China only I believe I read?
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Yeah, China, Taiwan, and Korea
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Yeah, China, Taiwan, and Korea
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Guess they figured those of us in North America and Europe werent good enough for the 512gb version.
Samsung is doing quite a bit to annoy customers this year. I am one of them, long time samsung customer and they are doing a fabulous job of alienating its loyal customer base so far in 2020 especially lately
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Guess they figured those of us in North America and Europe werent good enough for the 512gb version.
Samsung is doing quite a bit to annoy customers this year. I am one of them, long time samsung customer and they are doing a fabulous job of alienating its loyal customer base so far in 2020 especially lately
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Isn't this due to different habits in each market? EU/US are very cloud heavy, with a lot of streaming for video & music...so most of the storage space will be for apps and photos.
For most users, i'd wager over 90% but don't have stats to back that up, 256gb is more than enough - overkill in fact.
In Korea/China/HK things are different and local storage is really important, so you see a lot of manufacturers offering expandable or larger storage in those markets.
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Isn't this due to different habits in each market? EU/US are very cloud heavy, with a lot of streaming for video & music...so most of the storage space will be for apps and photos.
For most users, i'd wager over 90% but don't have stats to back that up, 256gb is more than enough - overkill in fact.
In Korea/China/HK things are different and local storage is really important, so you see a lot of manufacturers offering expandable or larger storage in those markets.
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who knows why, either way it's very frustrating similar to how having the note 20 ultra 512gb version available only in black.
its idiotic and just irritates some customers, people want choices that's nothing new.
512 vs 256
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Isn't this due to different habits in each market? EU/US are very cloud heavy, with a lot of streaming for video & music...so most of the storage space will be for apps and photos.
For most users, i'd wager over 90% but don't have stats to back that up, 256gb is more than enough - overkill in fact.
In Korea/China/HK things are different and local storage is really important, so you see a lot of manufacturers offering expandable or larger storage in those markets.
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I'd have to respectfully disagree with this, as I've lived in China for 20 years, literally about half my life. Basically, all China runs on the cloud. You'll find very very few, except for maybe the old generations (50+) not streaming everything from music to games to movies and tv from online streaming services. The only local storage used is to install games and apps, and to hold tens of thousands of pictures they love taking of every little thing. You won't find them storing videos or music or anything on their phones though. So this particular line of reasoning, at least for China, I feel doesn't hold water. But that's JMHO.
Regardless of who lives where and such, it should come with at least what the previous version did and/or allow expandable storage. We all keep getting less yet the price becomes higher. Charger is next to go. They tried as best they could to get it as close to the original price as possible, but there are sacrifices because of it obviously.
Word of caution. We're back to the old days where different variants have different cellular bands. My Tab S7+ 5G from Spain supports a handful of EU 5G bands but the only U.S. band it supports is AT&T's 850MHz. It's SD 865+ just like the Z Fold 2 so I'd imagine all Samsung's 5G phones are going to have support for bands by region. If you're happy with LTE then it doesn't matter. If you like to flip your phones I think a non-5G capable version of a $2,000 phone would be a hard sell here in the U.S. so that's something to consider too.
Old days?? Been like that for as long as I can remember.
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Old days?? Been like that for as long as I can remember.
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Multi band LTE radios made it much less of an issue.
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Multi band LTE radios made it much less of an issue.
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Samsung has made multi-models for as long as I can remember. Unless you specifically purchase the US/Canada model, there was always at least 2+ bands missing on LTE from the other variants. Those devices would work in most areas, but not in all of the outskirts.
Even the S20 USA and Canada versions differ, both LTE and 5G bands are different. This on a very recent device.
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Samsung has made multi-models for as long as I can remember. Unless you specifically purchase the US/Canada model, there was always at least 2+ bands missing on LTE from the other variants. Those devices would work in most areas, but not in all of the outskirts.
Even the S20 USA and Canada versions differ, both LTE and 5G bands are different. This on a very recent device.
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Which LTE bands do you consider missing? The point I was making is that multi-band LTE support has greatly evolved whereas 5G is going to be hit or miss for a while. Someone with a current generation device can pretty much count on accessing LTE worldwide no matter what the phone's country of origin. For 5G? Not so much and not for a long time.
Looks like wonda mobile got their pre-order page up: https://www.wondamobile.com/samsung-galaxy-fold-2-5g-dual-512-gb-f907n-sim-free-and-unlocked.html
The link mentions F907N variant, but on the page it is F9160.
It costs: $2,221.40 USD (approx. $2,926.21 CAD)
It is the 12 GB RAM, 512 GB storage.
However, surprised to see it as a single SIM, not even an SD slot and/or 2nd sim, is that new for a HK model?
I have asked this question in the Note 20 Ultra thread, but I'll ask again here (as no answers were posted), now that all Galaxy Z Fold 2 is using Snapdragon chipset:
1. Since it is based on the Qualcomm SM8250 Snapdragon 865+, is there a way to change the LTE & 5G bands on the SM-F9160?
2. Is it hard-coded into the firmware of the 5G modem that is incorporated with the Snapdragon 865+, which makes the change impossible?
3. Since I am with Rogers provider - is it possible to change the CSC on SM-F9160 to match that of Rogers?
Dont think your going to get any answers for the next little while. It is still in pre-order state and not readily available. However, I have not seen or heard of any that will have dual SIM and definitely no SD card slot for storage expansion.
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Looks like wonda mobile got their pre-order page up: https://www.wondamobile.com/samsung-galaxy-fold-2-5g-dual-512-gb-f907n-sim-free-and-unlocked.html
The link mentions F907N variant, but on the page it is F9160.
It costs: $2,221.40 USD (approx. $2,926.21 CAD)
It is the 12 GB RAM, 512 GB storage.
However, surprised to see it as a single SIM, not even an SD slot and/or 2nd sim, is that new for a HK model?
I have asked this question in the Note 20 Ultra thread, but I'll ask again here (as no answers were posted), now that all Galaxy Z Fold 2 is using Snapdragon chipset:
1. Since it is based on the Qualcomm SM8250 Snapdragon 865+, is there a way to change the LTE & 5G bands on the SM-F9160?
2. Is it hard-coded into the firmware of the 5G modem that is incorporated with the Snapdragon 865+, which makes the change impossible?
3. Since I am with Rogers provider - is it possible to change the CSC on SM-F9160 to match that of Rogers?
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I could live without the SD card slot if it came with 512gb. But that's the minimum for me. 256gb won't cut it for me so I'm hoping this phone would work out for me in the US. But I don't want to give up 5g or all the bands I need for LTE on tmobile in the US.
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I could live without the SD card slot if it came with 512gb. But that's the minimum for me. 256gb won't cut it for me so I'm hoping this phone would work out for me in the US. But I don't want to give up 5g or all the bands I need for LTE on tmobile in the US.
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Same, I still cant believe samsung was stupid enough to give this top-tier phone only 256gb of storage in most parts of the world. They seem to favour the asian countries since they got 512gb.Note 20 ultra got 512gb in black only here i canada and most other places yet again some (not all) asian countries got other colours in 512gb.
This is a trend starting here and not a good look for samsung or any company showing bias like this.
I've imported tons of phones, but I will not do that with this one due to its more fragile nature and knowing samsung canada will not touch a non Canadian device for warranty.
Hard enough to get them to touch a CDN device with warranty!
Users from eastern Europe/Europa, maybe from other parts of the world other than America report horrible google habits...
NO 5g. NO Volte! NO VoIP ! Sometimes No SIM detected (of course the SIM is in the phone) ! Can't use internet when you are in a call..
These people talk to phone companies (Orange, Vodafone, Telekom) about this Horrible problems . The answer was that stupid google block this options in these part of the world because they don't give a f*ck about people from these countries.
Could not satisfy google insatiable GREED! for money !
Do you friends have this on your Pixel 7 pro ? If so how do you even use the phone?..
Any of you have Graphene OS on your Pixel 7 pro ? These problems are still threre?
I post this because i want to buy Pixel 7 pro..
Thank you.
Happy new year !!! All the best !
If it was down to greed they would let the phones run fully everywhere and not give a toss whether it worked or not.
Meh, don't get me started...
Gookill is the worst. Anything higher than Android 10 sucks. Might as well be Apple now.
Same deal as MS did; Google wants to force you to use cloud rather than expandable storage. All the more user data for them to collect. Google is wholesale spreaders of disinformation, hype, biased censorship, and are highly politically biased/manipulative.
Recommendation; buy a Note 10+ running on Android 9 or 10. No variable refresh rate display but better color/gamma accuracy and calibration. Good cams and up to 1tb expandable storage.
A long lived dependable workhouse that gets good SOT and runs like a bat out of hell. Even though it's 3 yo it keeps pace with the newest flagships for most tasks, only slightly slower and sometimes faster. Almost always gets better SOT. Excellent form factor, balance and build quality. Runs well stock once optimized. If you want to stay stock the Snapdragon variants are the best.
I didn't understand what you mean. I have two devices in the family. one with GOS and one original Stock. Both are working without any problems.
There aren't many reports either about the problems you are mentioning, at least not in Germany.
Germany is not really in the middle of nowhere now is it? Just like the Netherlands where I live.
Never be the first to buy a new phone and do your research before buying.
I do have to agree that this phone has its share of issues, minor ones but nevertheless.
My stock dialer just doesn't work, replaced it.VERY annoying!
My stock camera app goes black after a couple of shots when shooting at night. Booting fixes it. VERY annoying!
The stock launcher is so basic and with the un-removable search bar. Replaced by Lawnchair. VERY annoying!
What else...
I do love the phone though, battery life for one is truly epic, photo quality likewise!
I'm in Italy, on TIM provider, no such issue. I have 5G, VoLTE, I can use internet when calling and my SIM is always detected. My provider is testing VoIP now, but I'm not interested as I'm on an unlimited 5G plan.
My dialer and camera app work perfectly.
Stock launcher is stock launcher, you have a ton to choose from. If you prefer a wholy stock phone, buy an iPhone.
I suggest to edit title to "Horrible Google in Germany".
It's also not a Germany problem. I have 2 Prepaid Sims in (blau (o2network) and a vodafone callya as esim). For both volte is working without problem, the vodafone one also have 5g, no problems with dialer or anything else....
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Germany is not really in the middle of nowhere now is it? Just like the Netherlands where I live.
Never be the first to buy a new phone and do your research before buying.
I do have to agree that this phone has its share of issues, minor ones but nevertheless.
My stock dialer just doesn't work, replaced it.VERY annoying!
My stock camera app goes black after a couple of shots when shooting at night. Booting fixes it. VERY annoying!
The stock launcher is so basic and with the un-removable search bar. Replaced by Lawnchair. VERY annoying!
What else...
I do love the phone though, battery life for one is truly epic, photo quality likewise!
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The stock launcher should be fast, stable and very user customizable. One reason I like Samsung's... lol, at least the N10+ as their hardware after this just doesn't hit the mark. The N9 is way too slow to be practical. Pixel's philosophy is sort of one size vanilla fits all and lacks needed customization options in my opinion. Clearly if you need to resort to using a 3rd party launcher Pixel fell short of meeting your needs with this core UI application. *meh*
After Android 10 Google Android went to scoped storage dumb bunny hell. Pie is still my preferred OS. This 3 yo flagship with 3 yo firmware provides a better overall user experience, balance and functionality in my opinion. It's a joy to use and very capable. It's not drowning in needless security protocols or hardware bloat... it just works day after day. Security for me is simply not an issue in real time usage; this load is over 2.5 yo, still fast, stable with no known security breaches. I use a few modifications and practices but nothing too drastic on this stock Android to achieve this. I spend very little time doing maintenance and troubleshooting.
So yeah, not liking Google's or Samsung's constant ball drops. No slam dunks, for years now. Pathetic.
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If it was down to greed they would let the phones run fully everywhere and not give a toss whether it worked or not.
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NO !
Only sale in Rich country's ! That's GREED .
Germany is Not a poor conuntry.
About google...
Google destroyed OxygenOS with his creap apps. Now "works" to annihilate Motorola UI.
Icreap is poop. Prison! To decode an icreap is called jail break.
Samsung is full of bloatware & the BS with ecosystem... And the Really Slow charging... Samsung Note 10+ 5g is the most beautifull phone for me. In my case was slow. Oneplus 8 Pro.. compared to Note 10+ was flying.
Back to Pixel 7 pro. My hope was that someone have Graphene Os on the phone and all the blocking is gone. With the Privacy of Graphene, too.
The problems i mentioned are in Romania & other eastern Europe.
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I didn't understand what you mean. I have two devices in the family. one with GOS and one original Stock. Both are working without any problems.
There aren't many reports either about the problems you are mentioning, at least not in Germany.
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NO !
Only sale in Rich country's ! That's GREED .
Germany is Not a poor conuntry.
About google...
Google destroyed OxygenOS with his creap apps. Now "works" to annihilate Motorola UI.
Icreap is poop. Prison! To decode an icreap is called jail break.
Samsung is full of bloatware & the BS with ecosystem... And the Really Slow charging... Samsung Note 10+ 5g is the most beautifull phone for me. In my case was slow. Oneplus 8 Pro.. compared to Note 10+ was flying.
Back to Pixel 7 pro. My hope was that someone have Graphene Os on the phone and all the blocking is gone. With the Privacy of Graphene, too.
The problems i mentioned are in Romania & other eastern Europe.
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So how come the Pixel 5a was only sold in 2 countries if that was genuinly the case?
This topic is a little bit of rage, but to put things into perspective. OP is right at some points. I live in Slovakia and I have had so far:
Pixel 5
Pixel 6
Pixel 6 Pro
Pixel 7
Pixel 7 Pro
And neither of them was fully functional in Slovakia. What I mean by that? VoLTE/VoWiFi/5G are not working with any of the available carriers. I have checked with them all personally. They have proved and confirmed the issues are on the Google side.
In order to achieve full functionality, you must root the phone and use all sort of mods to enable all of the features. And to this day, I am not sure why is Google doing this. For this reason only I am switching between my Z Fold4 and iPhone 14 Pro. The moment Google will finally and kindly enable 100% of functionality to its Pixel devices in every country, I am getting it full time.
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I'm in Italy, on TIM provider, no such issue. I have 5G, VoLTE,
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Works because it has carrier configs made by Google for TIM (222-01)
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Users from eastern Europe/Europa, maybe from other parts of the world other than America report horrible google habits...
NO 5g. NO Volte! NO VoIP !
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That's because Google has a very bad habit to play like they're Apple (on network side)
But with no significant market share
"The carrier should contact us to ""certify"" our phone to their network"
which translates in
"Won't enable anything until X carrier contacts us to add their network to our internal whitelist"
Funny enough, that problem exist even with "certified" carriers, like windtre (222-88) where you can't use their N78 60mhz only because Google ""certified"" only 40mhz N78 max for them, doesn't matter if with other phones even 150€ everything works perfectly
That problem will exist with other carriers if they will have more spectrum than allowed by their carrier policies (like EE [UK network] if they will merge their N78 blocks)
Is it country specific? I'm in the UK and I have been with 3 different providers/operators since I have had my Pixel 7 Pro. Here it seems more down to the telecom operator.
The first - No 5G, no VoWiFi, No VoLTE
The second - No 5G, no VoWiFi, No VoLTE
Now on my 3rd provider where I get 5G, VoWiFi, and VoLTE
The first two simply say they do not support the device. I'm not sure why that would be, they also didn't 'sell' any current Pixel Phones.
Is there a charge or operating cost to Google (or someone else) to support a device with the extra network functionality? Maybe the operator doesn't believe it's worth paying for the smaller number of potential customers with that device. Or maybe some operators never get the choice to activate those features based on their country/region? Who knows.
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Is it country specific? I'm in the UK and I have been with 3 different providers/operators since I have had my Pixel 7 Pro. Here it seems more down to the telecom operator.
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Not, more like carrier specific
Are the first two providers MVNO?
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Not, more like carrier specific
Are the first two providers MVNO?
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All 3 have been MVNO. One uses O2, one Vodafone, and the final is Three (Hutchison UK)
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All 3 have been MVNO. One uses O2, one Vodafone, and the final is Three (Hutchison UK)
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The first - No 5G, no VoWiFi, No VoLTE
The second - No 5G, no VoWiFi, No VoLTE
Now on my 3rd provider where I get 5G, VoWiFi, and VoLTE
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Odd. I'm in the UK and I'm on Vodafone UK on pay monthly, using a Pixel 7 Pro bought from Very so it's network unbranded and unlocked. I took delivery mid October just after release date and I have had fully working 5G and VoLTE since day one and voice over WiFi has worked since the November update.
Not sure what you could have been doing wrong.
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Odd. I'm in the UK and I'm on Vodafone UK on pay monthly, using a Pixel 7 Pro bought from Very so it's network unbranded and unlocked. I took delivery mid October just after release date and I have had fully working 5G and VoLTE since day one and voice over WiFi has worked since the November update.
Not sure what you could have been doing wrong.
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They were MVNO's not the main network.
First was Sky Mobile (who use O2)
Second was Lebara (who use Vodafone)
Third is Smarty (who use Three)
Sky and Lebara could have opened access for 5G/VoLTE/VoWiFi for Pixel phones but chose not to for whatever reason. The parent networks they run on (O2 and Vodafone) allow access to these features on Pixel devices. So it is not the physical network, it is the carrier choosing not to allow access.
Thankfully Smarty do allow access to all features for Pixel devices.
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They were MVNO's not the main network.
First was Sky Mobile (who use O2)
Second was Lebara (who use Vodafone)
Third is Smarty (who use Three)
Sky and Lebara could have opened access for 5G/VoLTE/VoWiFi for Pixel phones but chose not to for whatever reason. The parent networks they run on (O2 and Vodafone) allow access to these features on Pixel devices. So it is not the physical network, it is the carrier choosing not to allow access.
Thankfully Smarty do allow access to all features for Pixel devices.
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Understood. I'm moving when my contract is up in March, and likely to Talk Mobile who is an MVNO owned by Vodafone and who use their network. My son currently uses them so I will check with his sim card before moving.
Issue for me is that 3 are totally toilet in my area in terms of signal so I can't use Smarty.
Like i wrote in OP, users of Pixel 7 Pro complain to Orange, Vodafone, Telekom phone companies. The answer was that google block these options & they colud do nothing about it, because of google don't let them.
I want to buy the phone, but it works horrible in my country.