Hey guys I made a video review I made that shows how I use my pioneer appradio2 along with apps to make me love my headunit!! The main things your going to need are a ROOTED android device capable of displaying tv out via hdmi, mini hdmi, or mhl. ARLiberator, and if you want the apps that I use I listed in the description of the of youtube vid. Let me know your thoughts guys!
http://youtu.be/YJW4V7U8k6E
Thanks for the review and app recommendations. I'm tackling my install the week of the 14th but using a pro installer. For anyone thinking of going with the Pioneer Appradio2 here's my equipment and parts list to run a nexus 4 in a 2011 porsche 987:
Pioneer SPH-DA100 AppRadio2 Car Stereo
Pioneer ND-BC5 Universal Rearview Camera
Parking Brake Override Bypass for AppRadio2 SPH-DA100
SlimPort SP1002 microUSB to HDMI to connect Nexus4 smartphone to SPH-DA100 AppRadio2’s 7.0" capacitive touch display
EDO Tech Micro USB Direct Hardwire Charger Cable Kit to connect SlimPort to SPH-DA100 AppRadio2 for providing charging to Nexus4
Porsche harness for Sound Package Plus compatible with Pioneer 2 DINs & radio antenna adapters & speed sensor & Illumination wires
Porsche 987 HU housing brackets for factory opening that includes spring loaded secure locking mechanism & built-in guide rails
Porsche Trim Bezel that is color matched to OE semi gloss black of my vehicle’s dash
Stainless steel mounting clips to secure bezel attachment
Scan ToolOBDII Bluetooth OBDLink
I'll post a video once everything is sorted.
Anyone know what has happened to the ARLiberator forum?
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Anyone know what has happened to the ARLiberator forum?
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I have been searching forever trying to figure this out
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This really concerns me cause i am ready to click buy but with forum down and no way to contact developer im on the fence buying the Appradio 2.
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This really concerns me cause i am ready to click buy but with forum down and no way to contact developer im on the fence buying the Appradio 2.
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I have to agree, as the app is quite expensive and not quite stable yet, at least it needs some hand-holding to get everything working.
I am looking to replace my newsmy unit, I like it but there is no plans for 5.1.1 and I miss an actual volume knob. I also like the fact that the MTCB and MTCD have both Power antenna and AMP remote wires that are separate
Is it better to buy a MTCD unit or a MTCB unit? I have found a joying unit I like that from what I can tell I can get with MTCD HW and 5.1.1 or MTCB and 4.4.4
So I am looking for advice as the the better path, this is going in an older car I drive in the summer, so no OBD2 or SWC but I have an OBD1 BT device I would like to connect to it
I think you kind of answered your own question. If you want Android 5.1, then you should buy MTCD. MTCB is probably more mature, with MTCD you'll have quarks and functions the might not work right.
Yeah I am kind of leaning that way.. more work to make it fit around my bezel, but i will be happy with a volume knob once again..
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Yeah I am kind of leaning that way.. more work to make it fit around my bezel, but i will be happy with a volume knob once again..
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Do not underestimate the importance of a mature android version.. As of now I got an MTCD GS where the 3g usb modem support is broken, the STW controls are broken and the bluetooth system/support for OBD adapters are broken..
At the moment I am just sitting around this forum for the golden day to come for some solution to arrive.. But the boot time is somewhat better. (mine is around 15sec)
which is why I asked the question.. the 2 units are both Joying, same look, one is MTCB with 4.4.4 but I can use the ROM from Malaysk for 5.1.1
Or get the MTCD, hoping things get fixed as you stated. or keep my Newsmy and figure out a Volume knob solution.
the 4.4.4 (MTCB) is about $20 less too
I can tell you I upgraded from MTCB to MTCD recently and did notice at least one big bug is fixed.
Running Waze, used to often cause the volume knob to stop working. That has never happened on the new MTCD unit.
I believe the bluetooth/audio design is better on the new MTCD units as well.
If there is not a big difference in price I would probably suggest going to the MTCD unit because they obviously have made some fixes and improvements.
if the difference is too great, or the lower cost is attractive enough get a MTCB. I had one for a year and was quite pleased with it, even with the quirks such as the volume knob to stop working when you use Waze sometimes, or the poor bluetooth mic quality issues on some units it was still worth it.
that helps.. Which MTCD Unit do you have?
Also how is the Radio Reception?
Ordered a joying UL135. It should be a MTCD unit
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that helps.. Which MTCD Unit do you have?
Also how is the Radio Reception?
Ordered a joying UL135. It should be a MTCD unit
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After the upgrade I have a JY-UL124.
The radio reception is about the same as the old version. It is a little weak compared to the stock radio but its not all that bad. Maybe reduces the range of reception 10% or so. A friend of mine who lives a little further out of town, has the same 124 as the old Android 4.4 model, and he solved it with a cheap antenna amplifier that is turned on/off automatically be the head unit using the built in antenna amp connection. He probably has better reception than I do now and I live much closer to town. The units have a pretty good radio receiver processor in them actually: http://html.alldatasheet.com/html-pdf/470939/STMICROELECTRONICS/TDA7705_10/1947/1/TDA7705_10.html My guess is they probably need to add just a little more amplification in their antenna circuit.
Hi! Need a update.img file for my Android 4.2 car gps stereo!!!!!
My unity was like dead for several months and for my surprise It wasn’t broken. I managed to get the unity in to recovery mode, and after some research I found out I need the to update/ recover the firmware and “update.img or dupdate.img” is what I need and the Ebay company that sold it to me is inactive. Is anyone out there with the identical or similar unit that would be kind to help me by sending me this file Please? Here I send some pictures from my unit, no name or brand, I bought it on July 2015 from autogpsel06 on Ebay.
Android 4.2 Jelly Bean
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1xMmuQt1p1ayPCWlMwxwCBbBM_IZlq0yG
Kind regards
Anderson Lima
2003-2010 Porsche Cayenne Car Stereo Android 4.2 Sat Nav DVD Radio AUX
2003-2010 Porsche Cayenne Car
Have you assumed it is an MTCD or MTCE?
Thanks for your attention!
First of all, I want to thank you for using your time to help me with this issue.
I will read all those threads carefully. As I don't have the exact brand of my unit and the unit does not boot, it can only get in to recovery mode, thats why I can't answer your question, I can't get in to settings... but I found a exact look alike unit on the market that uses Android 4.4 instead 4.2 here is the link, you may be able to get the answer you asked. As I bought my unit from autogpsel06 on Ebay and they don't answer my emails, can't confirm the units Origen, but I am pretty sure that this is the one! Shenzhen electronics Hui Fei.
http://www.kaigele.com/enus/detail_489_685.html
Kind regards
Andy
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Hey everyone! I am brand new to this forum and joined because I saw the most quality forum threads on the Joying head unit line of products here than any other forum I could find. I have a 2000 Chevrolet Corvette that I am hoping to install an 8" Joying Snapdragon radio in and could use some help gaining legitimate reviews and maybe some answers for questions I have regarding the Snapdragon and other Joying products. I'll number the talking points below for anyone willing to contribute and help me out. Thanks!
1) How is the Joying Snapdragon product that you have experience with, EXCLUDING all experiences pertaining to steering wheel controls? the C5 did not offer steering wheel controls, so I'm out of luck for that luxury.
2) How bright are the screens? Given the radio location in my car, glares when the roof is on is very unlikely, but a brighter screen is always better and would help if I chose to use the radio while the top is off and the sun can shine in almost directly onto it.
3) This is a very, very niche inquiry, but does anyone have a Joying snapdragon or android 10 head unit happen to also own an Xbox 1 or newer? If so, could you please tell me if you can download the Xbox app from the Google Store and install it on the radio? Furthermore, if this can be accomplished, can you please see if it is possible to Remote Play your Xbox on the Joying head unit via the Xbox app? The way I am thinking about it, doing this would require you to pair a wireless Xbox remote to the head unit via Bluetooth and then having the radio connected to WiFi (hotspot or sim-card, I suppose), OR it might work with a USB-wired remote connected to the radio via the USB port(?). I wouldn't be playing games while driving, but it would be something very cool to do at things like car meets or whatever. IF someone tries this, AND it works... how is it?
4) I see a lot of reviews in certain places here and there that say the Joying head units really don't offer any improvement over factory radios. Can someone please school me on this? A Best Buy employee told me once that almost all aftermarket radios (grant it, he was referring to Kenwoods, Alpines, etc.) will inherently improve the sound (either by volume or quality) over the factory radio because the aftermarket units "push" more power (in watts?) than factory units. I've replaced the factory Bose "twiddler" speakers in my car with aftermarket JBL speakers that can be found at Best Buy, so I'm hoping the Joying Snapdragon can make the most of them. Other than that, my car's sound system remains the same.
5) Does anyone happen to also have experience with these units and their communication/compatibility with the OBD2 adapter? Joying offers a deal to get their wireless OBD2 device, which I assume may be used on apps like Torque and such. Furthermore, does anyone think you could buy an OBD2-to-USB cable and run a wired connection to the radio for a faster, more responsive reading when using apps like Torque to view engine and ECU data?
Thank you to everyone who chimes in! I really appreciate it and I hope to hear from you all soon.
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Hey everyone! I am brand new to this forum and joined because I saw the most quality forum threads on the Joying head unit line of products here than any other forum I could find. I have a 2000 Chevrolet Corvette that I am hoping to install an 8" Joying Snapdragon radio in and could use some help gaining legitimate reviews and maybe some answers for questions I have regarding the Snapdragon and other Joying products. I'll number the talking points below for anyone willing to contribute and help me out. Thanks!
1) How is the Joying Snapdragon product that you have experience with, EXCLUDING all experiences pertaining to steering wheel controls? the C5 did not offer steering wheel controls, so I'm out of luck for that luxury.
2) How bright are the screens? Given the radio location in my car, glares when the roof is on is very unlikely, but a brighter screen is always better and would help if I chose to use the radio while the top is off and the sun can shine in almost directly onto it.
3) This is a very, very niche inquiry, but does anyone have a Joying snapdragon or android 10 head unit happen to also own an Xbox 1 or newer? If so, could you please tell me if you can download the Xbox app from the Google Store and install it on the radio? Furthermore, if this can be accomplished, can you please see if it is possible to Remote Play your Xbox on the Joying head unit via the Xbox app? The way I am thinking about it, doing this would require you to pair a wireless Xbox remote to the head unit via Bluetooth and then having the radio connected to WiFi (hotspot or sim-card, I suppose), OR it might work with a USB-wired remote connected to the radio via the USB port(?). I wouldn't be playing games while driving, but it would be something very cool to do at things like car meets or whatever. IF someone tries this, AND it works... how is it?
4) I see a lot of reviews in certain places here and there that say the Joying head units really don't offer any improvement over factory radios. Can someone please school me on this? A Best Buy employee told me once that almost all aftermarket radios (grant it, he was referring to Kenwoods, Alpines, etc.) will inherently improve the sound (either by volume or quality) over the factory radio because the aftermarket units "push" more power (in watts?) than factory units. I've replaced the factory Bose "twiddler" speakers in my car with aftermarket JBL speakers that can be found at Best Buy, so I'm hoping the Joying Snapdragon can make the most of them. Other than that, my car's sound system remains the same.
5) Does anyone happen to also have experience with these units and their communication/compatibility with the OBD2 adapter? Joying offers a deal to get their wireless OBD2 device, which I assume may be used on apps like Torque and such. Furthermore, does anyone think you could buy an OBD2-to-USB cable and run a wired connection to the radio for a faster, more responsive reading when using apps like Torque to view engine and ECU data?
Thank you to everyone who chimes in! I really appreciate it and I hope to hear from you all soon.
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From reading the forums what learnings do you have regarding FYT based chinese origin head units so far?
Your post reads like solicitation - the information is here for you to read.
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From reading the forums what learnings do you have regarding FYT based chinese origin head units so far?
Your post reads like solicitation - the information is here for you to read.
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So, like I said, I'm new to this forum and, admittedly, I didn't look into the existence of any community guidelines that this post might violate, such as the solicitation you think my post reads as. If that's the case, I understand it if you choose to remove my post. I am probably wrong to assume that this forum is similar to car forums in that a user may post a thread whether to distribute or obtain information. For example, in the Corvette forums I use, I can post a thread about a new exhaust system I put on my car and list some things I liked and dislike about it to help future buyers, or I can ask a question about how other Corvette owners have enjoyed or disliked their experience with an aftermarket seat that I might be interested in. In either of those scenarios, I wouldn't be accused of solicitating because it's kind of the normal thing to do on a forum. So I don't potentially make the same mistake in the future, can you please tell me why my post "reads like solicitation," what the community guidelines (or whatever they are) that I may have violated, and what you mean by "the information is here for you to read?" For example, am I not allowed to post questions here?
However, I can't post a question like this on the Corvette forums because 99% of the boomers on there only buy "American, REAL QUALITY" aftermarket radios and never give android head units a chance. The other 1% seem to use the Joying 8.8" head unit because they want to retain the factory radio bezel. So, nobody over there is doing what I'm thinking of doing, so I'm coming to the only forum I found where users post information about the Joying unit.
But, to answer your question about what I've learned, I saw and read a thread started by @tRidiot under the "FYT Android Head Units" category that was titled "Do not buy a Joying Snapdragon unit - actually, Joying's customer service in general pretty well sucks." which can be found here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...service-in-general-pretty-well-sucks.4419619/ .
By reading this thread, I learned that @tRidiot had a really sour experience with Joying's customer service and was thoroughly disappointed with the way the radio interfaced with the steering wheel control canbus system (or whatever its called). So, I learned to not have any high expectations for the Joying product line to interface well with steering wheel controls. I've also read Facebook posts about this issue being consistent in other user experiences. As stated in my original post, I'm not really concerned with steering wheel controls because my car doesn't have any.
I also read a thread by @lowridincrew, with no title, in the category "Android head-units," that talks about the snapdragon product line by joying and compares it to their previous models. What i learned there is that the hardware in the snapdragon products doesn't seem to be as competitive (or fast or as powerful, etc.) as their less expensive products. It seems like some of those who commented on that thread have purchased a Snapdragon product and, in first impressions, seem to be okay with it. There seems to be an appeal for the new UI and that older models most likely won't be given the updated UI.
I've also tried to reach out to a YouTuber, SaabUnleashed, as he has done several android head units including the Joying Snapdragon, but he has not responded.
SO, that is all the information I have learned by reading threads on this forum. I would still appreciate any and all contributions that pertain to answering the questions listed above, and if I need to take my questions elsewhere, please tell me where I need to take them. Thanks!
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Hey everyone! I am brand new to this forum and joined because I saw the most quality forum threads on the Joying head unit line of products here than any other forum I could find. I have a 2000 Chevrolet Corvette that I am hoping to install an 8" Joying Snapdragon radio in and could use some help gaining legitimate reviews and maybe some answers for questions I have regarding the Snapdragon and other Joying products. I'll number the talking points below for anyone willing to contribute and help me out. Thanks!
1) How is the Joying Snapdragon product that you have experience with, EXCLUDING all experiences pertaining to steering wheel controls? the C5 did not offer steering wheel controls, so I'm out of luck for that luxury.
2) How bright are the screens? Given the radio location in my car, glares when the roof is on is very unlikely, but a brighter screen is always better and would help if I chose to use the radio while the top is off and the sun can shine in almost directly onto it.
3) This is a very, very niche inquiry, but does anyone have a Joying snapdragon or android 10 head unit happen to also own an Xbox 1 or newer? If so, could you please tell me if you can download the Xbox app from the Google Store and install it on the radio? Furthermore, if this can be accomplished, can you please see if it is possible to Remote Play your Xbox on the Joying head unit via the Xbox app? The way I am thinking about it, doing this would require you to pair a wireless Xbox remote to the head unit via Bluetooth and then having the radio connected to WiFi (hotspot or sim-card, I suppose), OR it might work with a USB-wired remote connected to the radio via the USB port(?). I wouldn't be playing games while driving, but it would be something very cool to do at things like car meets or whatever. IF someone tries this, AND it works... how is it?
4) I see a lot of reviews in certain places here and there that say the Joying head units really don't offer any improvement over factory radios. Can someone please school me on this? A Best Buy employee told me once that almost all aftermarket radios (grant it, he was referring to Kenwoods, Alpines, etc.) will inherently improve the sound (either by volume or quality) over the factory radio because the aftermarket units "push" more power (in watts?) than factory units. I've replaced the factory Bose "twiddler" speakers in my car with aftermarket JBL speakers that can be found at Best Buy, so I'm hoping the Joying Snapdragon can make the most of them. Other than that, my car's sound system remains the same.
5) Does anyone happen to also have experience with these units and their communication/compatibility with the OBD2 adapter? Joying offers a deal to get their wireless OBD2 device, which I assume may be used on apps like Torque and such. Furthermore, does anyone think you could buy an OBD2-to-USB cable and run a wired connection to the radio for a faster, more responsive reading when using apps like Torque to view engine and ECU data?
Thank you to everyone who chimes in! I really appreciate it and I hope to hear from you all soon.
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I can answer question #4 as I've dealt with high end Kenwoods, Pioneers etc. It does improve sound and the person that said it's not any improvement over factory radios are delusional. The android radios offer a crossover and wide band EQ's. That alone improves sound quality a ton. I have a 08 Lacrosse and I've went from Factory to Kenwood DMX7704S to a Joying 4GB - 64GB 7 inch head unit. The Joying had way more control over the Kenwood. Whoever got in my car thought I had a amplifier installed but it was just my Headunit. I was able to fine tune it nicely. The only issues would be when adding a amplifier, either use the factory cables to go back to RCA cables straight to the amp or a crossover. The RCAs tend to be 1v and under as my Kenwood had 4v which makes a huge difference.
Chris Laymon said:
Hey everyone! I am brand new to this forum and joined because I saw the most quality forum threads on the Joying head unit line of products here than any other forum I could find. I have a 2000 Chevrolet Corvette that I am hoping to install an 8" Joying Snapdragon radio in and could use some help gaining legitimate reviews and maybe some answers for questions I have regarding the Snapdragon and other Joying products. I'll number the talking points below for anyone willing to contribute and help me out. Thanks!
1) How is the Joying Snapdragon product that you have experience with, EXCLUDING all experiences pertaining to steering wheel controls? the C5 did not offer steering wheel controls, so I'm out of luck for that luxury.
2) How bright are the screens? Given the radio location in my car, glares when the roof is on is very unlikely, but a brighter screen is always better and would help if I chose to use the radio while the top is off and the sun can shine in almost directly onto it.
3) This is a very, very niche inquiry, but does anyone have a Joying snapdragon or android 10 head unit happen to also own an Xbox 1 or newer? If so, could you please tell me if you can download the Xbox app from the Google Store and install it on the radio? Furthermore, if this can be accomplished, can you please see if it is possible to Remote Play your Xbox on the Joying head unit via the Xbox app? The way I am thinking about it, doing this would require you to pair a wireless Xbox remote to the head unit via Bluetooth and then having the radio connected to WiFi (hotspot or sim-card, I suppose), OR it might work with a USB-wired remote connected to the radio via the USB port(?). I wouldn't be playing games while driving, but it would be something very cool to do at things like car meets or whatever. IF someone tries this, AND it works... how is it?
4) I see a lot of reviews in certain places here and there that say the Joying head units really don't offer any improvement over factory radios. Can someone please school me on this? A Best Buy employee told me once that almost all aftermarket radios (grant it, he was referring to Kenwoods, Alpines, etc.) will inherently improve the sound (either by volume or quality) over the factory radio because the aftermarket units "push" more power (in watts?) than factory units. I've replaced the factory Bose "twiddler" speakers in my car with aftermarket JBL speakers that can be found at Best Buy, so I'm hoping the Joying Snapdragon can make the most of them. Other than that, my car's sound system remains the same.
5) Does anyone happen to also have experience with these units and their communication/compatibility with the OBD2 adapter? Joying offers a deal to get their wireless OBD2 device, which I assume may be used on apps like Torque and such. Furthermore, does anyone think you could buy an OBD2-to-USB cable and run a wired connection to the radio for a faster, more responsive reading when using apps like Torque to view engine and ECU data?
Thank you to everyone who chimes in! I really appreciate it and I hope to hear from you all soon.
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1 I've had 3 of the last 4 joying units and if you're okay with tinkering a bit to get it to your liking it's a worthwhile purchase. With a few caveats, you can't use Google assistant to make voice calls and sometimes the radio app starts when you start the stereo
2 the screen is very bright. I used to use one in my BMW convertible and even in direct sunlight I could see the screen. There is also a screen protector for some joying units on Amazon and I believe one is anti glare
3 yes you can install the Xbox app but you'd have to download the apk. The play store won't allow you to.
4 changing the EQ might offer a better experience but don't expect a mind blowing difference
5 you can ONLY use the joying obd2 with joying head units if you want to go the bluetooth route. As far as wired usb Idk but I can't imagine it not working.
Got word from a manufacturer on Aliexpress about one of their units They said the far better Snapdragon 665 versions of HU would possibly come out around June
There's no reason to go with a slower Snapdragon 625 compared to the UIS7812 imo
#1 If you are looking at Joying snapdragon units I believe they are all button less, which not having swc is going to be a pain in the butt as you will have to click on the volume icon and slide the volume up or down, hard to do while driving. But other. Than that it's solid. People complain at the fact that the 625 is an older chipset but this is a head unit not a tablet porformance is more than enough for radio stuff. One other thing people don't look at is LTE bands, the snapdragon units support band 4 and 12 which are big in the T-Mobile network, but i will note my Joying headunit has a 4g issue so haven't been able to experience a fully connected drive currently still going through customer service to rectify this issue.
#2 The screen is bright I haven't had issues with not being able to see the screen content. That being said it glares a lot, my unit being mounted 100% vertically reduces the chances of having glare issues but i can see it being an issue on my Avalon where the screen has a slight angle facing the windshield. When I had a Joying unit in that one glare was impossible to combat making the screen useless around mid day.
#3 you can download any android app as on any android device but you will not be able to pair a controller. I tried pairing my Xbox series x controller for hours, couldn't get it to connect, it seams Joying changes something in the Bluetooth interface that voids being able to access the main Bluetooth settings. For me that would make this point useless. I haven't tested USB connection only Bluetooth.
#4 This can be true. There are a lot of generic android radios for under 100 bucks that use the cheapest audio chips to get a product out and sold. This gives you the Android experience but overlooks the audio experience. Joying on the other hand is fairly expensive for a Chinese company sourcing android radios. The reason for this is they implement higher end components to also improve audio quality, and although it is not on par with high end pioneer or Kenwood's it does compare to radios in it's price range. In most cases if your car has only 4 speakers meaning 1 on each door and no factory amplifier the Joying will improve your sound. If your car has a premium audio system from factory IE. JBL, Bose, mark Levinson ext where you have 8-12 speakers in your car and bypass that with this radio it will sound like crap. It would sound like crap with any radio as factory amplifiers have different impedance and crossovers to compensate for special speaker wiring that your radio won't have. Another thing is if you plan to install a sound system in your vehicle you are told to stay away from these units as they distort at low volumes not allowing you to maximize the audio. Also true of old Joying units, these new ones get pretty close to 3v out of RCA before distortion at around 75-80% volume. I tested them with my DM-RTA. Granted this is not 4v as standard by pioneer, Sony and other headunit manufacturer it should suffice and or can be improved by a 200$ line driver. At 700$ still cheaper than any large manufacturer radio with similar specs as in size and functions like wireless car play And android auto.
#5 This I don't know but would advice to ask and see if you are able to pair a Bluetooth model and phone at the same time.
Thanks everyone for chiming in! I know this is a very dated thread by this point, but I felt like I had a few things worth mentioning in case anyone comes looking for it.
Per Joying's customer service, the snapdragon product line (currently) ONLY allow pairing with JOYING-brand Bluetooth products (i.e. steering wheel controller, TPMS, or the OBDII device) and devices categorized as phones.
I think this is a bummer because, well, I feel like one of the biggest reasons to buy an android head unit over other devices is because of the open-source, "do what you want" liberty that isn't given by its competition. This also stinks because it means that a device like an Amazon Echo Auto cannot be used at all -- this device would allow hands-free navigation or music, etc., but it requires a Bluetooth or AUX connection, both of which Joying does not seem to afford for the snapdragon products
I am still going to wait to see how/if the Snapdragon product line is improved as was rumored. I'm also curious to see how Apple's announcement of iOS 16's new and improved Apple CarPlay will change on these devices.
I don't want to discount Joying as a consideration when selecting a head unit -- as of now, I think they are the only brand to offer an 8" all-screen option. I think I still want to go with an android head unit, but I may find myself switching to a different brand or even non-android based unit.
I think @surfer63 wrote about fyt units needing to install obdII before any other Bluetooth devices like cell phones. He has really taken the time to post great info about these units, it just takes a little time and more knowledge than I have to sift through the info and determine if it applies to your unit. I have the hengcheng pro S9.
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Thanks everyone for chiming in! I know this is a very dated thread by this point, but I felt like I had a few things worth mentioning in case anyone comes looking for it.
Per Joying's customer service, the snapdragon product line (currently) ONLY allow pairing with JOYING-brand Bluetooth products (i.e. steering wheel controller, TPMS, or the OBDII device) and devices categorized as phones.
I think this is a bummer because, well, I feel like one of the biggest reasons to buy an android head unit over other devices is because of the open-source, "do what you want" liberty that isn't given by its competition. This also stinks because it means that a device like an Amazon Echo Auto cannot be used at all -- this device would allow hands-free navigation or music, etc., but it requires a Bluetooth or AUX connection, both of which Joying does not seem to afford for the snapdragon products
I am still going to wait to see how/if the Snapdragon product line is improved as was rumored. I'm also curious to see how Apple's announcement of iOS 16's new and improved Apple CarPlay will change on these devices.
I don't want to discount Joying as a consideration when selecting a head unit -- as of now, I think they are the only brand to offer an 8" all-screen option. I think I still want to go with an android head unit, but I may find myself switching to a different brand or even non-android based unit.
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You still don't appear to understand that there is no "joying" headunit. Your comments apply to a factory type sold by a seller called JOYING.
Without posting the details of the unit from Android system information including the MCU, the comments lack context which may mislead others.
Hello,
I've been using a Mekede 500S in my Citroen C5 for about 1 1/2 years now.
All in all I am quite satisfied with the device, but 2 points upset me:
no RDS fine / local tuning
the microphone issue
I like that the Mekede is very fast, and needs only a few moment before start to work.
Now I bought a new car, a Lancia Voyager.
And of course I want to change the radio unit to a Android head unit.
Are there good alternatives to the UIS7862 units?
With which devices does the RDS and the hands-free function work in good quality?
Cheers
Andi
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All in all I am quite satisfied with the device, but 2 points upset me:
no RDS fine / local tuning
the microphone issue
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I'm pretty sure RDS works on my Mekede M500s. I use NavRadio+ instead of the default radio app so don't know if that makes a difference.
The mic issue is simply that the internal mic is unusable and the external mics supplied for free are also rubbish.A decent quality mic sorts this.
I'm using my cars OEM mic connected to the external mic on the M500s and the call quality is excellent.
andi_n said:
Are there good alternatives to the UIS7862 units?
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I think the FYT 7862S is currently the best platform for Android Head Units.
You could try purchase a new fascia and wiring and swap your current head unit in to the new car. Though it would need to be a fascia designed for the M500s screen, but it's the most common screen on these units.
j0hn83 said:
I'm pretty sure RDS works on my Mekede M500s. I use NavRadio+ instead of the default radio app so don't know if that makes a difference.
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RDS is a multifunction set containing 12 functions.
What @andi_n is meaning is that RDS-AF (Alternate Frequency) doesn't function. This is already in these units since 2015 and it still has not been fixed. China doesn't use RDS-AF (and a number of other countries don't either) so I assume it is of 0 priority.
But this is also my nr. 1 annoyance.
Hello,
yes, I mean RDS-AF.
I also use NavRadio+, it is a great.
I use my car for business and traveling al lot in different European Countries and I love to listen Radio with news and traffic information.
It is very annoying to search every few kilometers the radio station.
I'll definitely buy a new head unit, I'll leave the old one in the Citroen C5.
That's why I'm asking about alternatives.
Have the non FYT based UIS 7862 units the same problems?
Cheers
Andi
andi_n said:
Hello,
yes, I mean RDS-AF.
I also use NavRadio+, it is a great.
Have the non FYT based UIS 7862 units the same problems?
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That depends. There are a few that support RDS-AF. If you search through @KoTiX2 posts about NavRadio (also in the "Android Head unit" and "MTCD" forum), you see which units do have real RDS-AF.
At least the Topways do: See "New "NavRadio+" app for TopWay based units: T3 and T8Allwinner, TS9 (intel), TS10(UIS7862) and TS18(UIS8151)".
I myself have been really tempted to buy a Topways unit as I am a radio listener too.
Edit: My remark about Topways having correct functioning RDS-AF might not be entirely correct. I asked @KoTiX2 directly in his thread.