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Alright, this is a strange one. I'm wondering if anyone else can confirm this, although I bet few have probably noticed it.
I normally update my installed apps by going to the Market app and selecting "My Downloads." Often times I'll see "update available" and then I install the update, which wipes out the previous version.
Last week, I found an app called aTrackDog, which basically is a version tracker for your apps. It goes out and finds new versions and notifies you, so you can go download your updates. It not only follows the market, but also the app developer's homepage, in case they release their update through different mediums. I don't use it to install or uninstall, just track my versions.
This is when I started paying attention to the version numbers of a few apps. For this example, we'll talk about Advanced Task Manager and Pandora. I updated ATM from 3.5 to 3.6, and Pandora from 1.0.0 to 1.1.0. To do this, since the market didn't say there was an update, I uninstalled each app, and then reinstalled from the market. Everything was great, and each app showed its new version, from the splash screen on Pandora, to how ATM was listed in Task Panel, as version 3.6.
I just rebooted my phone because I was getting the 99% uptime thing, and wanted to mess around with killing the messages task to see if that made a difference. Much to my surprise, when my phone restarted, my phone has reverted many of my apps back to older versions.
My Advanced Task Manager now is back to version 3.5, Pandora is back to 1.0.0, and many other apps are affected.
This seems like a MAJOR BUG. Can anyone else confirm this at all?
To recreate this issue, if you have Pandora version 1.0.0 currently, or 1.1.0, uninstall and reinstall it. You then will have version 1.1.1 I believe. Then reboot your phone, and start Pandora back up. Does it still say 1.1.1?
I have found this also happens with Advanced Task Manager, and Mileage. I'm sure there's others, but those are a couple of examples. This has happened to me at least twice that I'm aware of.
EDIT-- Here's three links on other Android forums where someone else is experiencing this same thing.
http://androidforums.com/htc-hero/12577-app-updates-cause-problems-icons-etc.html
http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f41/apps-reverting-to-old-version-27414/#post262526
http://community.sprint.com/baw/message/127189
I've noticed this too. I've really noticed it with NewsRob because it will pop up a message stating " A new version is available", but the Market knows what I downloaded last so it states that there is no update. I was wondering, since I too had Atrackdog installed (not anymore) if it was an issue with that program, maybe an issue with just what version was listed in certain programs (as in some piece of code to display the version number got messed up) or if there really was automatic downgrading going on...
jakeblues55 said:
I've noticed this too. I've really noticed it with NewsRob because it will pop up a message stating " A new version is available", but the Market knows what I downloaded last so it states that there is no update. I was wondering, since I too had Atrackdog installed (not anymore) if it was an issue with that program, maybe an issue with just what version was listed in certain programs (as in some piece of code to display the version number got messed up) or if there really was automatic downgrading going on...
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I've tried to remove aTrackDog, and I'm still getting the same behavior. I really doubt that it has to do with that app, but rather the people that use that app are more aware of version numbers, and are the ones noticing it.
I'm assuming lots of people have Pandora on this board (or mileage, Advanced Task Manager or NewsRob for that matter) so we need more people to try to reproduce this issue!
What I'm trying now is to uninstall the app (in my case I'm using Pandora as it says the version number on launch) then reboot the phone, and then reinstall, use it to see the new version, and then reboot to see if it gets reverted.
What's the result? IT REVERTED AGAIN. This is definitely a bigger issue than we realize...but WE NEED PEOPLE TO REPRODUCE THIS.
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I also emailed Pandora support to see if they can't reproduce the issue or help me figure out what's up.
I also emailed the devs for aTrackDog to see if they can't shed some light on what might be going on. Hopefully they'll be quick to help, so we can squash this biznatch.
I also posted a question in the App Market Google Forum, and hopefully someone at Google will help figure this out. http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=56ff6f465d6e5e34&hl=en
I also reproduced this issue with TEN more apps:
Astro File Manager
Google Sky
Google Voice
Backgrounds
Barcode Scanner
Shop Savvy
Battery Widget
Daily Horoscope
Facebook
Movie Finder
Google, you got some 'splaining to do.
I use Astro to backup files to my SD card. After I reboot I go through all the "red" files (ones where the SD card version is newer than the installed version) and "upgrade" them with the SD card version.
Alas the Market app tends to "lose" the fact I downloaded some of these apps and no longer tracks them for updates
Something is definitely wrong somewhere.
I'm seeing the same issue, I even tried a factory reset and still happening.
You can add to the list:
Touchdown
Sipdroid
I think it is just about all apps. Even if you uninstall and reinstall the latest version seems to revert back to original version you installed for the first time.
Locale...
This happened to me this week with Locale. I had beta .68 and upgraded to beta .69.
A couple of days later, I noticed I was still running beta .68. I thought maybe they had forgotten to update the name in the app itself, but after seeing this thread, I'm betting it's an HTC Sprint Hero bug.
I also re-visited the Android Market to see if I could re-download beta .69, but it didn't recognize that the program could be updated. It must think I'm running beta .69, but I'm pretty sure I'm still rocking beta .68.
Verrrrry strange...
I just reproduced this as well, with AK Notepad.
I had 1.9.3b installed; upgraded to 1.9.4. rebooted; now it shows 1.9.3b again
I'm using modaco's rom with apps2sd setup. Is this happening on stock heros too?
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From what I've been able to gather from Handcent SMS's version changelog and look for in the actual application I have on my phone, it appears that it is only the display of the version that is reverting, not the application itself. I have this issue with Handcent and even the "about" dialog inside the application reports the older version, but I am seeing features and changes that only appear in later versions according to the changelog. We'd need a major update of an application to test this further.
edit2:
grinched from #android on EFNet helped test this on a stock CDMA Hero and was able to replicate it with Barcode Scanner.
lonequid said:
I just reproduced this as well, with AK Notepad.
I had 1.9.3b installed; upgraded to 1.9.4. rebooted; now it shows 1.9.3b again
I'm using modaco's rom with apps2sd setup. Is this happening on stock heros too?
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<ignore, wrote in wrong thread>
See my fix in
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=581806
gilroykilroy said:
See my fix in
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=581806
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I'm going to root my Hero and give this a shot tonight. A HUGE preemptive THANK YOU!!!!!
This has been driving me nuts!!!
Nathan, you might want to try this one too (maybe first)?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=582176
Basically the same thing, but you delete the entire cache directory instead of just the broken ones one at a time. The cache is recreated after you reboot.
mercado79 said:
Nathan, you might want to try this one too (maybe first)?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=582176
Basically the same thing, but you delete the entire cache directory instead of just the broken ones one at a time. The cache is recreated after you reboot.
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Just an FYI, I'm married, but I friggin love you guys!! This is why XDA is my favorite place. Such a wealth of knowledgeable and great people. Thanks again everyone, MUCH MUCH appreciated.
Ooops... forums are acting buggy.
Edit: (Update) Download Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9741682&postcount=56
Thanks mb2k for finding download link.
Market Fix Must be Re-done.
Android Developers have started posting photos
of the new market rolling out soon.
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/12/android-market-client-update.html
"The Android Market engineering team has been hard at work on improving the Android Market experience for users and developers. Today, I’m pleased to announce a significant update to the Android Market client. Over the next two weeks, we’ll be rolling out a new Android Market client to all devices running Android 1.6 or higher.
This new Market client introduces important features that improve merchandising of applications, streamlines the browse-to-purchase experience, and makes it easier for developers to distribute their applications.
With a focus on improving discoverability and merchandising, we’ve introduced a new carousel on the home and category screens. Users can quickly flip through the carousel to view promoted applications and immediately go to the download page for the application they want. Developers have been very active in creating great Widgets and Live Wallpapers. To make it easier for users to find their favorites, we’re introducing two new categories for Widgets and Live Wallpapers. Applications that include Widgets and Wallpapers will be automatically added to those new categories. We’ll also be adding more categories for popular applications and games in the weeks ahead. In addition, the app details page now includes Related content, which makes it easier for users to quickly find apps of similar interest."
I think it looks great and cant wait for the update.
someone's posted the apk in a nexus one thread. i assume it can be used on the gtab.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=868767
Good Find, and yes it does work I just tried it.
Use this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9741682&postcount=56
You must Re-Do Market fix
I applied the vegan b2 update and after applying the new market update, I didn't need to apply the market fix. Not sure if the b2 resolved he market fix issue, but was pleasantly suprised.
Good find. Nice UI. Fix worked well. Wish Roebeet add this to next update.
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Few questions please:
1. Which link do we use? One at very top?
2. Install via Clockwork and update.zip?
3. Does it open more of the market up, or same as current market (without the system hack using Root Explorer).
4. Will it work with TnT 2.20?
rushless said:
Few questions please:
1. Which link do we use? One at very top?
2. Install via Clockwork and update.zip?
3. Does it open more of the market up, or same as current market (without the system hack using Root Explorer).
4. Will it work with TnT 2.20?
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1. Yes top link
2. Yes clockwork and Select zip from sd
3. I am able to see everything in market
4. Yes it will work on TnT 2.20 if the TnT you have is TnT lite.
CAUTION: Would not download this, based on my experience with TnT 2.20:
Nice interface, but not the full market. Games like Tank Hero and other apps still do not show up.
More importantly:
Seems the graphics are broken, since stars for apps are cut off and no button options to actually update the apps.
Something is wrong with this app in relation to the Gtablet and at least TnT 2.20.
Looks like I will be restoring with clockwork, since this app appears borked as far as interface.
Did you folks actually try to update or download an app?
Update 2:
OK, the tiny cut-off line above the uninstall icon bar is what you press. Just have to be precise to press it, but it works. Press it twice.
Rush,
Not sure what you're seeing but as stated in the other post, I'm able to update just fine. (clicking "my apps" lead me to the downoads screen and my available updates show up. Just updated Eagle Nest to be sure)
The game Tank Hero appears on the search list but no app when selecting
Running Vegan b3.
mb2k said:
Rush,
Not sure what you're seeing but as stated in the other post, I'm able to update just fine. (clicking "my apps" lead me to the downoads screen and my available updates show up. Just updated Eagle Nest to be sure)
The game Tank Hero appears on the search list but no app when selecting
Running Vegan b3.
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On TnT 2.20, the top icon is cut-off and can not see letters, just bottom few pixel rows. Uninstall icon shows up completely. Rating stars are also cut off. Only shows half of one star for all.
Tank Hero has always been missing.
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The cut-off icons and missing stars bugged me. Restoring with clockwork now.
Is there a way to roll back? It doesn't work so well on TnT 2.2...would prefer for a better implementation.
zerozed99 said:
Is there a way to roll back? It doesn't work so well on TnT 2.2...would prefer for a better implementation.
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I had to restore with Clockwork mod to get it back. Not sure if less extreme options. Will use this as a lesson to NOT jump so quickly again. App is semi broken with TnT 2.20.
rushless said:
I had to restore with Clockwork mod to get it back. Not sure if less extreme options. Will use this as a lesson to NOT jump so quickly again. App is semi broken with TnT 2.20.
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Just about to install new market fix but then I saw your post.
Thanks for info.
I've been trying to get this to work for hours, now - only worked once, then FC's every time after. And it's not an ACLs issue. Market fix / user data wipe and market fix, doesn't matter. FC's.
I won't be rushing to get this into any build, as is just doesn't work for me (yet).
How is everyone installing this, I have had zero FC and everything is installing and updating fine. I am on tnt lite 2.2
Just FC'ing on VEGAn build, TnT Lite is A-OK (except the screen glitches).
I had no problem with the market app update on TnT Lite 2.3, although I was only able to get the basic list of market apps. The tweaks to get the 'near' full market did not work for me. Then, I performed the blackout market update, and I still wasn't able to get the full market. I had to do a full reinstall of TnT Lite 2.3 (wiped user data) in order to restore the full market.
The only issue I can see is the stars, which are all the same (TnT 2.4.0 prototype). I'm considering adding this to 2.4.0, even with that glitch - seems that the good outweighs the bad.
EDIT: Nah, gotta pull it. I can live with the stars, but the cutoff text is a real mess. Must not be setup for 1024x600 screens (yet).
roebeet said:
I've been trying to get this to work for hours, now - only worked once, then FC's every time after. And it's not an ACLs issue. Market fix / user data wipe and market fix, doesn't matter. FC's.
I won't be rushing to get this into any build, as is just doesn't work for me (yet).
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New market works fine here with Vegan b2 ... after a few reboots
fulls up the start page too looks Nice
thanks good work
(tv.com installed)
wow looks great! worked fine with the signed update then market fix.
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I'm running stock 2.3.3 and I'm still on the old market software (2.3.4). Will my handset update to the new market automatically? Are there any benefits to the new market besides the improve GUI? (I'm desperately hoping the search is improved!)
As much I'd like the fancy new look of the new market, I'm wary of updating due to the new auto-update feature in case my phone has a dodgy eMMC. Is there anyway to disable the auto-update feature before it gets chance to start?
Please note, the new market is very very slow...
Not much of an upgrade apart from the visual changes
olyloh6696 said:
Please note, the new market is very very slow...
Not much of an upgrade apart from the visual changes
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The earlier versions of the new market were slow, eg 3.1.5, but the new one is much better, i.e. 3.3.11
Plus, the new version prevents simultaneous installs and crashes, with apps being installed sequentially. I've been flashing new ROMs with the new market, and my apps all reinstall automatically, i've never faced a hangup yet!
Plus, the new market gives you a one-click abort to stop installation of all apps in one go... unlike the old one where you had to cancel each app one by one... Also, there is the option to only update when on wifi. Saves mobile data package and if you have that option checked, and you're not on wifi, your apps wont update at all!!
I would definitely recommend the new market.
The good news is that the new version had a setting to disable auto updates.
The bad news is that Oli is right. For the sake of a fancy UI, it's slower, laggy, and will frequently tell you updates are available for apps when in fact they are not. The latest version 3.3.11 is slightly better than previous efforts, but i still have to abort updates, clear data, and get false update notifications.
If you are on stock and not rooted, google will be pushing this polished turd onto your phone soon.
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Yeah, I forgot to mention that wnp
It is slightly better with the new 3.3.11 compared to 3.x.x but could still do with a speed boost!
Market 3.2.0 was just released a few days ago! Wonder what changes it brings!
@enigmaamit wow never knew that! So are you saying that it could be safe to hit auto update on all apps, as it does it one by one? No more chance of a fried Emmc chip?
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olyloh6696 said:
Yeah, I forgot to mention that wnp
It is slightly better with the new 3.3.11 compared to 3.x.x but could still do with a speed boost!
Market 3.2.0 was just released a few days ago! Wonder what changes it brings!
@enigmaamit wow never knew that! So are you saying that it could be safe to hit auto update on all apps, as it does it one by one? No more chance of a fried Emmc chip?
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Yup, i've updated around 15 apps at one go, and the install occurs sequentially instead of simultaneously.
No issues so far (four different ROM flashes with the new market)
The biggest issue for me with the 3.x markets is that "compatibility check" of the application with the device registered. Since there are not too many of you complaining, I presume you are not using a non-standard screen density. If you do it, market will show for many application the "application is not compatible..." message and you're not allowed to download it. 240 screen density (standard for HDPI devices) is too big for my taste, I prefer something like 200-210. In this case alot of applications designed for HDPI cannot be installed (Skype for ex is one of them, but there are many).
Adding this on top of the slowness of the new market, makes me using the "old" 2.3.6 version which is perfect. Unfortunately this version was giving FCs with the ICS ROM I've tested (the alpha from superkid) so I am wondering if it will work at all on ICS or I should be forced to upgrade to the latest market (which is something I don't want).
If somebody finds out a way to bypass this compatibility check, please share, it is very annoying
Thanks for your input guys. I think I'm going to wait until the new market is pushed to my phone. Hopefully by then some more of the bugs might have been worked out. I'm in no rush.
Hi guys,
A bit of a question for you, I am running the magnificent endymion 3.4 at the moment and want to know if it is ok to update my Rom manager and titanium back up as the market is now saying I have updates,apologies if this has been asked before I couldn't see any other threads on this and am just a bit curious
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Yes, of course. It's recommended.
No need at all. Works fine. Many things are recommended, just in case of Bugs / more features. None the case here
To Update Or Not ??
pughie said:
Hi guys,
A bit of a question for you, I am running the magnificent endymion 3.4 at the moment and want to know if it is ok to update my Rom manager and titanium back up as the market is now saying I have updates,apologies if this has been asked before I couldn't see any other threads on this and am just a bit curious
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Hi pughie.
The thing about updates, is that you should know what benefits, if any are there in an update, before you apply it. Sometimes it's a good idea to keep certain apps updated (like Gmail, Maps, Facebook and twitter), because, i've learnt from experience, that these usually only get better with time.
Then there are those updates that only add new language support, some UI changes, permission changes, etc... and you may or ma not update these, because they don't really change the core functionality of the app.
Some app updates are completely ridiculous. For example, the application "Folder Editor" had a beautiful looking interface and flawless unintrusive performance, but the latest update shot it to hell and made it push irritating pop-ups on the screen all the time. I would avoid such updates. Good thing is, there's an option to uninstall updates from an app in the "Manage Applications" setting.
Finally, there are updates which essentially change the core capabilities of an app, and it is always a good idea to update them as a rule. The ones i have on my phone, that fall into this category, are 4EXT Recovery Control and Titanium Backup. (For example, the newer Titanium Backup updates add compatibility with ICS, which is essential if you decide to try out the ICS ROMs available for the DS) Ditto with ROM Manager... I hope you get the general idea.
So it's always a good idea to look at the changelog of any app update before deciding to update it. A good practice is to use Titanium Backup to backup the previous version of the app before updating, so that if you don't happen to like the update, you can revert to the previous version (Uninstalling updates from the "Manage Applications" tab will set you back to the oldest version you had on the phone, so i recommend the TB method.
Hope this is of some help to you...took long enough to type!!
Thanks a lot, very grateful for any advice I can get as I am a total novice at this and am learning a lot each day.
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Hello everyone!
I just got the Jelly Bean update on a german ACER a700
Build: ACER_AV051_A700_1.028.00_EMEA_DE
Image: ACER_AV051_A700_RV09RC02_EMEA_DE
Have fun!
Mickey
Mickey0815 said:
Hello everyone!
I just got the Jelly Bean update on a german ACER a700
......
Have fun!
Mickey
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Have just pulled the update down my self, and the installation seemed to go well. The update has resulted in the following error: “Unfortunately, VirusScan Mobile has stopped.”, and with the options “Report” and “OK”. Regardless of pressing send or OK, the same pop-up appears half a second later. Power of and on have not help.
I don’t know what to do right now to get rid of the problem. The device is useless right now.
If you think about upgrading, I would think twice before jumping into the update. Might be better to wait until more success stories appears
BR Steen
Update: Acer Denmark was not able to help (unless I would return it). I succeded in getting into the settigns menu and killed the VirusScan Mobile, so I am able to use it for now (until I have to reboot it )
steen-p said:
Have just pulled the update down my self, and the installation seemed to go well. The update has resulted in the following error: “Unfortunately, VirusScan Mobile has stopped.”, and with the options “Report” and “OK”. Regardless of pressing send or OK, the same pop-up appears half a second later. Power of and on have not help.
I don’t know what to do right now to get rid of the problem. The device is useless right now.
If you think about upgrading, I would think twice before jumping into the update. Might be better to wait until more success stories appears
BR Steen
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Ive had the same Problem.
With a taskkiller i have killed the app temp. and then i have erase the Data from Virusmobile in the Setup->Apps.
Until now no Popup.
But i don't konw if the Virusmobile is still running.
Calendar issue
The calendar keeps forgetting what calendar/calendars have be selected for viewing.
BR Steen
Also just installed it - Mobile Virusscan was a bit annoying to stop because the FC message pops up in the foreground like every second, leaving you unable to proceed, so you gotta be quick to get into app control...
I deactivated it and switched to Avast! which I already have on my SGS2 and am quite happy with.
That done I must say I'm a bit disappointed performancewise, I don't really have the feeling it got any faster or more fluid.
I had the A700 EMEA_DE but when check for update it say your device is up-to-date
How you got the update can anyone please upload the update zip file?
Awesome! I also got the update, but will this wipe all my current apps and stuff?
Edit:
I read after searching (hehe, sorry, replied too quick), that OTA updates never wipe the installed apps and data. It only updates system related stuff.
Edit2:
Phew, download is SLOW!
Edit3: Sorry, it's not slow, it's fast, but the tablet was almost out of range of the router.
I got the update too in Germany.
My download was quite fast though. No it doesn't change anything in your userdata.Apps and settings are the same.
For me it seems much smoother in the first 5 minutes i checked it out.
Big improvement as far as i could see.
Someone knows what about the A701?
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Nice surprise
Unluckily when I start a manual search for updates, I get the following error meaasge: "System update is not allowed on your device".
Haven't tried it before, because there was nothing to search for. I think it's due to rooting the device, right?
I used method 2 from this post.
Any ideas how to get the update working?
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With temp unroot from OTA RootKeeper I can manage to search for an update, but there seems to be nothing available for my device until now.
(Installing might fail anyway due to the patched kernel.)
Yeah I said it is coming soon, I am made great acer muahah but unfortunately I do not have the update.
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Anyone please get the update can save the update zip and upload it
Anyone in the US get it? I keep being told my software is up to date but I'm still on 4.0.4
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It seem that only have DE version.
casper326 said:
It seem that only have DE version.
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I have the DE version living in Germany but no update
The A500 ICS update. Also not push to all peoples at the same time.
So I thank DE JB version also like that.
Remember the "Power MANAHEMENT" update?
Also push to DE version first, than FR. and US will be the last.
And HK version need to wait one more month later.
Any feedback on the touch sensitivity after the update?
it will be really appreciated when a lucky german user will upload a cwn dump !
What this update does
The update installs the following stuff:
- JB, obviously. Which includes changing the time font, Recent Apps and colour of the soft button pressing (gray instead of blue).
- Google Chrome.
- Acer Cloud.
- Google Currents.
- Google Voice Search (Google Now).
The update installs the following widgets:
- Google Play Books (doesn't seem to work).
- Google Play Music.
- Play - My Library.
- Play Recommendations.
It Improves the touch experience greatly. Note that the option in the Settings is set back to "Normal", you can change it to "High" but it doesn't seem to be necessary.
No other languages are added.
Google Play Store doesn't seem to be updated. I still need to download the full app after an update.
All the apps start and shut down fast, only the launcher doesn't seem to work that smooth anymore. Maybe try another launcher like Apex?
Also, I can't seem to expand the notifications. Long pressing the notifications shows an option to open the app info.
Can't it play Dead Trigger with Ultra High setting smoothly?
The ics is fxxking lag when playing this game...