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Hi guys,
I've had the phone for a couple of days. What bothers me are the fact that as a latest fragship, it cheaps out on bluetooth chip(4.2). Other devices like pixel 2 from last year already start using 5.0. Not that I really need the bluetooth 5.0. I just don't like being cheaped out to. Also no gorilla glass? I'd admit these are very minor "issues". Maybe I'm a bit of a brand whore. I just can't seem to enjoy looking at the ugly logo of the brand inside and out. The phone is from a contract with the carrier and therefore my choices are limited to what they have at this time. LG 7, V30, Pixel 2 XL to name a few. I'm not interested in anything with storage space less than 128GB (I don't like using sd cards, sorry but I think they are inferior), which brings me down pretty much to Pixel 2 XL. Now I notice there are people here who are coming from Pixel 2 to P20 Pro. I'd really like to hear their thought on comparing these two phones from all aspects before making the decision. I'm also open to other suggestions. Would really appreciate the input!
Neil
w2830 said:
Hi guys,
I've had the phone for a couple of days. What bothers me are the fact that as a latest fragship, it cheaps out on bluetooth chip(4.2). Other devices like pixel 2 from last year already start using 5.0. Not that I really need the bluetooth 5.0. I just don't like being cheaped out to. Also no gorilla glass? I'd admit these are very minor "issues". Maybe I'm a bit of a brand whore. I just can't seem to enjoy looking at the ugly logo of the brand inside and out. The phone is from a contract with the carrier and therefore my choices are limited to what they have at this time. LG 7, V30, Pixel 2 XL to name a few. I'm not interested in anything with storage space less than 128GB (I don't like using sd cards, sorry but I think they are inferior), which brings me down pretty much to Pixel 2 XL. Now I notice there are people here who are coming from Pixel 2 to P20 Pro. I'd really like to hear their thought on comparing these two phones from all aspects before making the decision. I'm also open to other suggestions. Would really appreciate the input!
Neil
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I would suggest waiting for Pixel 3 which is due out in October/November as it would be pointless buying it now.
You have described that you require Bluetooth 5.0 (do you have any devices that specifically require it). Bluetooth 4.2 can still be pretty decent as it has low power consumption
P20 Pro does come with gorilla glass
mulkman said:
I would suggest waiting for Pixel 3 which is due out in October/November as it would be pointless buying it now.
You have described that you require Bluetooth 5.0 (do you have any devices that specifically require it). Bluetooth 4.2 can still be pretty decent as it has low power consumption
P20 Pro does come with gorilla glass
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I don't really need the added benefit of the Bluetooth 5.0. I just don't like the fact that they have cheaped out on this comparing samsung has started using 5.0 since s8 and lots of others. It doesn't offer any confidence in this phone when knowing this. Waiting for Pixel 3 is probably is a good idea. Thanks for the suggestion anyway.
The phone costs less though so you gotta expect some compromises.
Hell no, from my experience the XL2 runs fast BUT very unstable. Apps especially Google Map can quit while you're driving, or whole system can reboot anytime.
My answer is no, if you want to go down pixel line wait until 3 comes out.
I've owned the nexus range and the pixel xl and was going to get a pixel 2 xl, but they are overpriced for what they are (just like apple) and they are full of bugs just like the XL
Pixel line of phones have long lost there edge compared to the Nexus line.
One plus in my opinion make the best "stock" android phones. Anyway back onto topic.
Gorilla glass Vs the tempered glass on the p20 Pro. Both scartch at a level 6 on the Moe's scale of hardness. So I wouldn't be to concerned
Bluetooth 4.2 Vs 5 can't really see much of a argument in a real life setting to why anyone would need 5 compared to 4.2.
If you can't get a one plus 6 and you have to make the choice like now then it feels your online option is the pixel.
There is no way I'd swap my phone for the px2
Or the XL.
The 3 ? Maybe but I'd have to see it
w2830 said:
Hi guys,
I've had the phone for a couple of days. What bothers me are the fact that as a latest fragship, it cheaps out on bluetooth chip(4.2). Other devices like pixel 2 from last year already start using 5.0. Not that I really need the bluetooth 5.0. I just don't like being cheaped out to. Also no gorilla glass? I'd admit these are very minor "issues". Maybe I'm a bit of a brand whore. I just can't seem to enjoy looking at the ugly logo of the brand inside and out. The phone is from a contract with the carrier and therefore my choices are limited to what they have at this time. LG 7, V30, Pixel 2 XL to name a few. I'm not interested in anything with storage space less than 128GB (I don't like using sd cards, sorry but I think they are inferior), which brings me down pretty much to Pixel 2 XL. Now I notice there are people here who are coming from Pixel 2 to P20 Pro. I'd really like to hear their thought on comparing these two phones from all aspects before making the decision. I'm also open to other suggestions. Would really appreciate the input!
Neil
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am personally let go my pixel 2 xl after having p20 pro.
camera is more versatile. smoothness is comparable. screen color is better for doing graphic works (at least IMO), and this one might surprise you, my apps crash less on this phone than on my pixel 2 xl, and 6GB of ram wont hurt either (disable zRAM to feel the true smoothness of this phone)
now am using p20 pro as main driver and redmi note 5 Ai as secondary phone. saving 400++ bucks by doing so. cant be happier
If I could go back in time, I would keep my Pixel 2 XL. That is not without issues though.
On the Pixel 2 XL, Touchscreen is a bit iffy. Battery life is worse (7 hours SOT over a day as opposed to 9 on the Huawei). Display is a little dark, not enough brightness in sunshine. But, if I could go back, I would keep it.
The Pixel is smoother and faster in apps, scrolling is much quicker, graphics power on the Pixel 2 XL is better, the P20 is quite stuttery and laggy.
But I would stick with the P20 for now.
Pros of switching to Pixel 2 XL:
1. Faster, fluid and cleaner software stock android experience. I used Pixel 2 as a work phone and love the Google experience. People buy Pixel for software and camera
2. Faster update to Android P
3. Snapdragon 835 is faster than Kirin 970, especially GPU
4. Google's camera is much simpler than P20 Pro's
5. Pixel 2 has better Stereo speakers
6. Pixel 2 has Bluetooth 5
Reasons for sticking with P20 Pro:
1. P20 Pro has a much better screen to body ratio, more content on a smaller screen
2. P20 Pro's camera hardware is future proof; amazing night mode, the best in market; P20 Pro is basically a camera phone
3. P20 Pro has a bigger battery and well optimized, resulting in much better battery life
4. P20 Pro's face unlock is more convenient than Pixel 2's rear mounted fingerprint reader
5. Pixel 2 XL's screen quality is inferior to P20 Pro's, which has fantastic AMOLED display
6. P20 Pro is future proof because of 6 GB ram, although Pixel 2 XL works equally well with 4GB ram.
Long story short, P20 Pro has a better hardware, but poor software experience in my opinion. Pixel 2 XL's Google experience is a class of its own. Never got such a fluid experience on any phone ever (Not even on One plus series).
I hope it helps
gautam.malik said:
Pros of switching to Pixel 2 XL:
1. Faster, fluid and cleaner software stock android experience. I used Pixel 2 as a work phone and love the Google experience. People buy Pixel for software and camera
2. Faster update to Android P
3. Snapdragon 835 is faster than Kirin 970, especially GPU
4. Google's camera is much simpler than P20 Pro's
5. Pixel 2 has better Stereo speakers
6. Pixel 2 has Bluetooth 5
Reasons for sticking with P20 Pro:
1. P20 Pro has a much better screen to body ratio, more content on a smaller screen
2. P20 Pro's camera hardware is future proof; amazing night mode, the best in market; P20 Pro is basically a camera phone
3. P20 Pro has a bigger battery and well optimized, resulting in much better battery life
4. P20 Pro's face unlock is more convenient than Pixel 2's rear mounted fingerprint reader
5. Pixel 2 XL's screen quality is inferior to P20 Pro's, which has fantastic AMOLED display
6. P20 Pro is future proof because of 6 GB ram, although Pixel 2 XL works equally well with 4GB ram.
Long story short, P20 Pro has a better hardware, but poor software experience in my opinion. Pixel 2 XL's Google experience is a class of its own. Never got such a fluid experience on any phone ever (Not even on One plus series).
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But software can always be improved, and / or we have Roms.
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But software can always be improved, and / or we have Roms.
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Development hasn't been looking good so far, but i do hope we get some more going eventually. Also, yeah i hope stop EMUI gets improved as well.
If P2XL didn't have the issues with screen I would have probably got it as liked the Pixel XL, but I had the initial issues with the halo when taking photos, I couldn't automatically connect to Bluetooth devices and had to manually switch over. It never 6with wifi calling when switched network as that feature was locked to EE and it same on the Pixel 2.
I have a Huawei Watch and switching over phones lost my data as couldn't be backed up on Pixel phones and Google Fit is more than useless with not keeping GPS data and not showing correctly across devices. Apple, Fitbit, Sony and even Garmin apps better.
Even Huawei Health provides better data than Google Fit just shame it can only be backed up and restored on Huawei devices otherwise u lose all data.
I'm still debating which device to get next and may depend on Watch compatibility.
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Thread from the dead: which phone should I keep?
So I found myself having my P2XL 128gb replaced by Google due to screen burn and a new (refurb) one arrives tomorrow.
In the meantime I had been rolling with a Huawei P20 Pro and it's not bad... Camera IS LOVELY and battery life amazing but I run Rootless Pixel Launcher as I can't stand whatever Huawei call their interface.
So, I can get £300 for my pixel 2 on popular recycling sites or £353 for the Huawei. My buy out on contract is £267.50 so either way I'm quids in.
Now, which one do I keep? It's worth noting my work phone is rolling a P3XL and, to some degree, I need to be in Android Beta Programmes (Q next?) as I'm a dev PM. The P3XL answers this need.
Heart says keep the pixel and flog the Huawei. Head says Huawei mobile the newer model (though not newer handset as, if you remember, just getting a replacement from The Big G).
The pixel FEELS better to me but, as this is my social phone, I'm more concerned with the camera than anything else. Does the P20 Pro triple camera make it worth getting rid of the P2XL? The snail pace of updates to the P20 annoys but thata just me wanting latest and greatest all the time.
Oh, decisions decisions. Either way ONE phone must go tomorrow in the post as I've locked in the prices for both with recyclers.
What would *you* do? Snapper or Pixel?
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So I found myself having my P2XL 128gb replaced by Google due to screen burn and a new (refurb) one arrives tomorrow.
In the meantime I had been rolling with a Huawei P20 Pro and it's not bad... Camera IS LOVELY and battery life amazing but I run Rootless Pixel Launcher as I can't stand whatever Huawei call their interface.
So, I can get £300 for my pixel 2 on popular recycling sites or £353 for the Huawei. My buy out on contract is £267.50 so either way I'm quids in.
Now, which one do I keep? It's worth noting my work phone is rolling a P3XL and, to some degree, I need to be in Android Beta Programmes (Q next?) as I'm a dev PM. The P3XL answers this need.
Heart says keep the pixel and flog the Huawei. Head says Huawei mobile the newer model (though not newer handset as, if you remember, just getting a replacement from The Big G).
The pixel FEELS better to me but, as this is my social phone, I'm more concerned with the camera than anything else. Does the P20 Pro triple camera make it worth getting rid of the P2XL? The snail pace of updates to the P20 annoys but thata just me wanting latest and greatest all the time.
Oh, decisions decisions. Either way ONE phone must go tomorrow in the post as I've locked in the prices for both with recyclers.
What would *you* do? Snapper or Pixel?
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Do not get rid of the P2xl because of the triple camera on the P20 Pro. The pixel is still the better all round camera regardless, and with its own new night sight mode, it just got even better.
Keep the pixel
Is it though, Patchy? I took an awesome shot on holiday where you could see Saturn and the P20 picked it out.
Ugh. I'm so conflicted!
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Is it though, Patchy? I took an awesome shot on holiday where you could see Saturn and the P20 picked it out.
Ugh. I'm so conflicted!
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I have both phones. It comes to preference, but yeah I find the Pixel always takes nicer photos. Way more consistent. Your call man.
i traded my pixel 2 xl because i was bored with stock android and the ram management was crap . portrait mode was better on pixel 2 xl. But i love the p20 pro for when zooming in pics the pics are still amazingly sharp
I don't mean to rag on the Pixel 3, I have the 3 XL and am pretty happy with it. But compared to my 2 XL, it's really not that much better. I was very happy with my Pixel 2 XL, and I'm so so on my Pixel 3 XL so far.
It's funny how OnePlus have taken the lead on better performing stock Android phones.
Clearly the 6T will be a smoother more fluid operating phone compared to the Pixel 3. Yet this is Google's thing, they created Android, they make vanilla Android. And they charge a much higher price for their Pixel vs a OnePlus, yet somehow OnePlus is besting them on developing a smoother better performing phone.
It's not rocket science what OPO is doing, Google can easily match and beat them in development of the Pixel OS, I just don't know why they aren't ?
Basically the OnePlus phones have taken over the old Nexus spot, and doing better at then Google did. And now Google can't even make their $900 flagship as smooth and fast as a $550 phone.
I'm thinking and hoping the Pixel 4 line will be a major jump for them. I think that will be the full HTC design team and also Android Q will be better and the Snapdragon 855 is supposed to be a major new processor. Plus all the criticism Google's getting on the Pixel 3, I expect next year's phones to be night and day better.
Yeah no. They arent. I have the OP6 and while it is really FAST it is not as smooth as the pixel xl 3 and nor will the 6T be smoother. I do think it will be faster! Not smoother through. There are still dropped frames on the OP6. Not many but there are more often the pixel devices
Don't the One+'s only have HD screens, delayed updates, and ****ty camera's? Last I heard, yes to all. Those three are HUGE dealbreakers for me. And also why they can charge less. I don't think One+ wins at all versus the Pixel 2's or 3's. If the Pixel's used cheaper panels and such, they would probably be a lot cheaper too. And I highly doubt they will out perform the 2's or 3's. In my experience, the only phone's that get any with these are the newer iPhone's.
Just my $0.02
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I don't mean to rag on the Pixel 3, I have the 3 XL and am pretty happy with it. But compared to my 2 XL, it's really not that much better. I was very happy with my Pixel 2 XL, and I'm so so on my Pixel 3 XL so far.
It's funny how OnePlus have taken the lead on better performing stock Android phones.
Clearly the 6T will be a smoother more fluid operating phone compared to the Pixel 3. Yet this is Google's thing, they created Android, they make vanilla Android. And they charge a much higher price for their Pixel vs a OnePlus, yet somehow OnePlus is besting them on developing a smoother better performing phone.
It's not rocket science what OPO is doing, Google can easily match and beat them in development of the Pixel OS, I just don't know why they aren't ?
Basically the OnePlus phones have taken over the old Nexus spot, and doing better at then Google did. And now Google can't even make their $900 flagship as smooth and fast as a $550 phone.
I'm thinking and hoping the Pixel 4 line will be a major jump for them. I think that will be the full HTC design team and also Android Q will be better and the Snapdragon 855 is supposed to be a major new processor. Plus all the criticism Google's getting on the Pixel 3, I expect next year's phones to be night and day better.
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I agree with most of this, I'm buying the OnePlus 6T when it's available and it will become my daily. My Pixel 3 XL will be my backup just like I did with the OnePlus 5T and my Pixel 2 XL.
I'll take my Pixel when I know I'm going to be taking a lot of pictures but for the most part I'll be using the OnePlus.
When I had my Pixel 2 XL and bought the OnePlus 5T it was just way to easy to put the pixel on the back burner.
The 6 upped the camera game quite a bit, enough so that it will probably satisfy any person I know real life who doesn't see the camera as a primary use of the device. I also think update frequency as a feature is somewhat overrated in general but particularly when compared to someone like Oneplus who have been reasonably timely as of late. IMO a lot of the grief this phone gets in terms of the GUI cludge come from it's rather horrid gesture navigation, poor app switching, and drawer access, all of course related. It's been called out in a number of reviews for those things and I think it's fair comment. They gestures themselves are not ergonomic, lack cohesion, and fail to take advantage of the space lost to the nav area by not removing it all together. That's a lot of fail right where you can't miss it. I'm here but I wouldn't put down OnePlus, their stuff is pretty darn good, not just good for the price.
Google makes the OS and your saying OnePlus makes a better OS. That's silly.
They may tweak or add skins but they don't make crap. So, If you compare apples to apples for hardware and then evaluate stock Android vs OOS, l would be surprised if it were significantly faster.
Doesn't Google downclock the 845? Yes 2500mhz and OP 6 clocks at 2800. With only 3300 mAh battery, that may equal worse battery life, I dunno. But the P3 XL and OP6 are not equal hardware to evaluate the OS.
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Had time to root, installed my much loved action launcher, oneplus gestures, got rid of the nav bar, etc. Yeah, get rid of that idiotic nav setup and all of a sudden it's a new ballgame. MUCH better; was thinking of sending it back. Say what you want about Oneplus but Goog could learn a thing or two from them.
krabman said:
Had time to root, installed my much loved action launcher, oneplus gestures, got rid of the nav bar, etc. Yeah, get rid of that idiotic nav setup and all of a sudden it's a new ballgame. MUCH better; was thinking of sending it back. Say what you want about Oneplus but Goog could learn a thing or two from them.
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That is EXACTLY what I did. I'm now really liking it now.
Agreed, starting to feel the love now.
krabman said:
Had time to root, installed my much loved action launcher, oneplus gestures, got rid of the nav bar, etc. Yeah, get rid of that idiotic nav setup and all of a sudden it's a new ballgame. MUCH better; was thinking of sending it back. Say what you want about Oneplus but Goog could learn a thing or two from them.
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i used the oneplus gestures on my 6 (just to get a feel, i enabled nav buttons then hid them and downloaded the op gestures)
the swipe area at the bottom of the screen is almost un-selectable, when my keyboard comes up i cant select anything where the swipe gesture recognises a swipe, does this happen on the Pixel? i thought maybe its just how its implemented on the oneplus 6
It's been fine, I just tried both keyboards without anyt problems. You do have a brief return window to play with if you want to verify it yourself. I ran into that on an AOSP ROM and never did find an answer.
I came from OP6 to P3XL
I miss some of the features of my OP6..
Like screenshot editing options in terms of cropping (not finding it on PX3L)
Using OnePlus Gestures app from playstore definitely makes things SO MUCH BETTER.
But i am noticing stuttering and such on P3XL , but then again with 8GB of ram on my OP6 i noticed stuttering and a lot of visual hiccups that literally should never happen.
What else? I'm not missing else much from the Op6....
I am also moving from the OnePlus6 to the Pixel 3 XL which should be in my hands on the 01/11 (for you americans thats 1st Nov lol) and the OnePlus gestures is the frst thing I will be putting on as well as hiding the nav bar to get the same sort of experience.
And to reiterate what others have said the UI on the OnePlus 6 is fast but definitely not that smooth, camera is now pretty poor too.
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I am also moving from the OnePlus6 to the Pixel 3 XL which should be in my hands on the 01/11 (for you americans thats 1st Nov lol) and the OnePlus gestures is the frst thing I will be putting on as well as hiding the nav bar to get the same sort of experience.
And to reiterate what others have said the UI on the OnePlus 6 is fast but definitely not that smooth, camera is now pretty poor too.
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OP6 is clocked slightly more than 10% higher than P3, thus faster.
"Just like it did last year, Google has underclocked the CPU of the Snapdragon 845 chipset that powers the Pixel 3 phones. The big Kryo 385 Gold cores are at 2.5GHz (0.2GHz down) and the smaller Silver cores are at 1.6GHz (0.1GHz down). This is done to improve battery life and should only impact peak performance, no CPU today can hit its max clocks under a sustained workload." gsmarena
Little ones too...
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The feature i miss the most from OP6 is the app locker and the quick gestures that you use to draw while your screen is off. The applocker IMO is excellent since when you go into recents it will block the thumbnail for privacy before you put your PIN/fingerprint. Any of you found any 3rd party apps as good as these for the P3XL?
masri1987 said:
I came from OP6 to P3XL
I miss some of the features of my OP6..
Like screenshot editing options in terms of cropping (not finding it on PX3L)
Using OnePlus Gestures app from playstore definitely makes things SO MUCH BETTER.
But i am noticing stuttering and such on P3XL , but then again with 8GB of ram on my OP6 i noticed stuttering and a lot of visual hiccups that literally should never happen.
What else? I'm not missing else much from the Op6....
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Cropping is there, along with a plethora of other options. Just got to take time to learn how to use the editor
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Hello,
In my country I can get the Pixel2 and Huawei P20 at around the same price, P20 being a bit cheaper, depending on the deals.
Now I am aware that Pixel 2 is an older device but it has it's pros.
What I like and dislike about p20:
+ lcd screen without Pulse With Modulation
+ modern design
+ dual cameras
+ fingerprint scanner on the front, making easier to unlock when on my desk
+ fingerprint scanner gestures which allows disabling the nav bar
+ software with customization
- notch, but from what I've read it can be disabled easily
- no stereo
- back glass which can be broken and is slippery
- updates my come slow
What I like and dislike about Pixel2
+ another almost 2 years of updates
+ metal back
+ stereo speakers
- amoled with PWM
- design
Usually reviews tend to be for the P20 Pro, especially long term ones so the P20 is a bit shadowed by it. I do not root or use custom roms. I do like to read on the phone, that is why no PWM comes as an advantage. I also need it to take great pictures without too much config. So if anyone owned P20, can share the downsides compared with Pixel 2? How are the cameras in comparison ? Are there any downsides of Pixel 2 in terms of hardware issues?
Thank you for your time.
Pixel 2, no contest. P20 may be a better device on paper, but it can't stand a chance next to the Pixel 2. My colleague has one, and we've compared the cameras, the Pixel 2 beats P20 in every shot (except maybe zoom on some occasions).
Software wise, ugh. EMUI on the P20 is just garbage and feels like Android KitKat and iOS 7 had a baby. Just no.
So from me, get yourself a Pixel 2 and enjoy.
I love my Pixel 2. I only wish it got some better battery life. It's actually the best size for me. I don't mind the bezel because of the dual stereo speakers.
Thank you very much for your answers.
I use the Pixel 2, owned the p20 for a few months.
It is a tough call, but i would go for the pixel again no question about it. But it depends on what you value more.
The camera on the pixel us much more reliable always good shots . software experience much better. I use gestures on the Pixel ( Fluid NG app).
For me the P20 was better on battery and screen size.the fingerprint gestures are great as well. The speakers better on the pixel of course.
@icstrim1 you mention that the camera on pixel is more reliable, does this mean that on P20 you got bad pictures some times? Or does the P20 require more adjustments before taking a picture? Also the software isn't more customizable that the one on pixel?
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@icstrim1 you mention that the camera on pixel is more reliable, does this mean that on P20 you got bad pictures some times? Or does the P20 require more adjustments before taking a picture? Also the software isn't more customizable that the one on pixel?
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On the auto mode with Huawei i got bad pictures sometimes, oversharpens a lot especially in rock walls or buildings. Also folliage backround detail looks more realistic on the Pixel.
I couldn't get rid of the oversharpening on the Huawei, there seem to be no real cure for auto mode.
If you take photos of children or landscape, the Pixel is a better choice in my view.
I prefer the clean Android, much smoother , almost addictive. But emui is not too bad.
Thank you o much @icstrim1, very helpful information.
One last question, the P20 has a screen without Pulse With Modulation, while the Pixel's amoled has around 245Hz PWM. Do you notice any eye strain/tiredness or other issues on the pixel's screen vs P20?
Thank you again for your time
You are welcome.
I actually like the oled more, no issues with eye strain.
Let me know if you have other questions.
I'm a current Pixel 2 XL owner and are due an upgrade in a couple months. After reading the Pixel 4/ 4XL reviews I'm not sure if I'll go for the P4 series. So many reviewers rave about the One Plus series phones.
I'm on Verizon, so if I were to get a One Plus which one would be lateral move or improvement over the P2 XL. I'd also love to have 5G, but if there are arguments against that I'll listen. I'm all about performance. I want a great camera but I don't need THE best one.
Thanks!
I had the pixel2xl on verizon (rooted) with Q and honestly it is the perfect phone and I did not have to upgrade! But honestly 12 gig and 256 storage!!! at 800 bucks!!!! I had to do it and even though still on Pie waiting for stable Q. I do not regret it!!!!!
I made the switch from a P2XL to a 7 Pro, and there are some things I miss about the Pixel:
1) Unlimited photo backup at original quality
2) Call screening and Now Playing
3) Camera quality
Even with these differences, though, I am glad I switched. The screen quality, speed, and price simply cannot be beat.
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I made the switch from a P2XL to a 7 Pro, and there are some things I miss about the Pixel:
1) Unlimited photo backup at original quality
2) Call screening and Now Playing
3) Camera quality
Even with these differences, though, I am glad I switched. The screen quality, speed, and price simply cannot be beat.
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I have to admit, the call screening was the big one for me.
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I made the switch from a P2XL to a 7 Pro, and there are some things I miss about the Pixel:
1) Unlimited photo backup at original quality
2) Call screening and Now Playing
3) Camera quality
Even with these differences, though, I am glad I switched. The screen quality, speed, and price simply cannot be beat.
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Not sure if you heard, the P4's don't give you the photo backup at original quality
I've owned a OnePlus 5, 5T, 6, 6T and now currently have a 7 Pro.
I'm switching to the 4 XL for the following reasons
- Better Tasker integration with the Pixel ROM vs OOS. Automating things like night light and vibrate mode are a bit more cumbersome on OxygenOS.
- Better camera. I know many will tell me to just use the Google camera port, but I'd rather not mess around with finding the correct APK and messing around with XML files to find what suits me best. I'd rather just have a phone that natively supports GCam and is more of a plug-and-play type scenario. The ports also don't allow for portrait mode pics unless it's a person.
- I'm in Canada and on Fido, and they don't support VoLTE or VoWiFi on devices they don't sell themselves. I've owned a Pixel XL, 2XL and 3XL for a short while and having VoLTE actually makes a difference in call quality. It's something I want to have again.
- Day one updates. OnePlus does push out updates pretty fast but it's nice to have the monthly patches with Google.
- Small bonus is wireless charging. I use my phone as a remote for my TV so having it lay flat on my side table and have it charge without me having to plug anything in is super convenient.
Unless I forgot something, basically everything else I'd probably stick with OnePlus. Honestly, if the camera was better and had VoLTE support, I would have kept it and lived with the rest of the 'issues'.
The 7 Pro is my first OnePlus and I haven't looked back! It's the Nexus unofficial inheritance...
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I had the pixel2xl on verizon (rooted) with Q and honestly it is the perfect phone and I did not have to upgrade! But honestly 12 gig and 256 storage!!! at 800 bucks!!!! I had to do it and even though still on Pie waiting for stable Q. I do not regret it!!!!!
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How is your LTE speed? I can get online while in concrete building downtown....
I switched from the Pixel 2xl to the OnePlus 7 pro and am still highly impressed at how big the performance gap is. I can now open an app in the morning before work and when I get off all my apps are still in memory at the same position I left them.
i switched as well from pixel 2 xl to op7 pro. The only thing i miss is the call screening/block robo calls. I have been getting at least 3 per day.
Anyone here coming from the OP 9 Pro?
I'd like to know which screen is easier to read under direct extra-bright sunlight.
And which has louder, fuller sounding speakers?
Anything else you think is interesting to note as a difference.
The screen on the Pixel is comparable to the 9 Pro. It's got a peak of 1500 nits when on auto. I have zero issues seeing it in the sun.
I didn't have a 9 Pro, I had a 9, but the speakers on the 7 Pro are way better. The 9 had basically no bass to speak of and the 7 Pro has a moderate bass response. It travels through the back of the phone and makes it vibrate in your hands a bit which was unnerving for me at first but the quality is definitely excellent as that was a chief complaint I had about my 9.
I'm loving the fact that apps don't just randomly refresh for no reason. I can swipe away from Chrome and do something without worrying about the page refreshing when I come back. RAM management was always really annoying on OOS12 and would often result in me being unable to log into my accounts because I would swipe away to get my 2FA code and the page would reload. Happy to say that I can actually play games on this thing and come back to what I was doing hours later and it's still there.
The camera is way better on the Pixel side if you like the point and shoot idea. The OnePlus is better if you like to tweak things although I think eventually we will get a nice GCam port that adds all that functionality back to the Pixel as well. I have not been disappointed with a single picture I have just randomly snapped with the Pixel whereas the OnePlus I never trusted it to get it right on the first so I took 3 or 4 and checked them out later.
Battery life for me has been better than my 9 but this seems to really vary for people and comes down to how you use the phone. I thought I would miss the rapid charging of the 9 but in reality I only have to charge once every 19-26 hours so it's a moot point and I can get 50% in 30 minutes which will get me through whatever I need to do where I won't have access to a charger easily.
EDIT: Actually, from looking up display tests, the Pixel should be much better than the 9 Pro. Without auto brightness the 9 Pro maxed at 500 nits. The Pixel achieves 1000 nits full scene brightness without auto.
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The screen on the Pixel is comparable to the 9 Pro. It's got a peak of 1500 nits when on auto. I have zero issues seeing it in the sun.
I didn't have a 9 Pro, I had a 9, but the speakers on the 7 Pro are way better. The 9 had basically no bass to speak of and the 7 Pro has a moderate bass response. It travels through the back of the phone and makes it vibrate in your hands a bit which was unnerving for me at first but the quality is definitely excellent as that was a chief complaint I had about my 9.
I'm loving the fact that apps don't just randomly refresh for no reason. I can swipe away from Chrome and do something without worrying about the page refreshing when I come back. RAM management was always really annoying on OOS12 and would often result in me being unable to log into my accounts because I would swipe away to get my 2FA code and the page would reload. Happy to say that I can actually play games on this thing and come back to what I was doing hours later and it's still there.
The camera is way better on the Pixel side if you like the point and shoot idea. The OnePlus is better if you like to tweak things although I think eventually we will get a nice GCam port that adds all that functionality back to the Pixel as well. I have not been disappointed with a single picture I have just randomly snapped with the Pixel whereas the OnePlus I never trusted it to get it right on the first so I took 3 or 4 and checked them out later.
Battery life for me has been better than my 9 but this seems to really vary for people and comes down to how you use the phone. I thought I would miss the rapid charging of the 9 but in reality I only have to charge once every 19-26 hours so it's a moot point and I can get 50% in 30 minutes which will get me through whatever I need to do where I won't have access to a charger easily.
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FYI, fully functional GCAM is already there since the phone came out. Check the Gcam from BSG, there is even a "dedicated" group for the Pixel 7 series and Gcam including a few people who made config and lib. Of course, Gcam already performs FAR better than the stock Google camera.
Also, I got the 9 Pro too, and the camera doesn't even come close to Pixel 7 Pro's.
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FYI, fully functional GCAM is already there since the phone came out. Check the Gcam from BSG, there is even a "dedicated" group for the Pixel 7 series and Gcam including a few people who made config and lib. Of course, Gcam already performs FAR better than the stock Google camera.
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I may have to look into this. It seems like Google made the camera even less functional than it was on the 3 XL from the settings department. I've been happy with the output but sometimes I would like more control.
I have both coming from 9 pro. You can definitely see the pixel 7 pro screen in sunlight. The nine pro also is pretty good. Couple thing to note that stands out to me, the pixel screen feels/appears a little bigger to me, I believe mainly due to screen curve with the 9 pro having much more curve. The one thing that surprised me was the pixel screen being rated #1 Android screen on DXO_Mark, since the screen does look nice, but I think as far as colors, etc, the nine pro has pixel beat with ability to produce, I believe, 1 billion colors, and the pixel like 17 million. I still prefer the pixel though for the record, since the 9 pro and Color Os saga when Android 12 came out. Also the pixel camera obviously is pretty hard to beat for double click power button, point and shoot. The pixel has been pretty nice except for the charging speed.
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The one thing that surprised me was the pixel screen being rated #1 Android screen on DXO_Mark, since the screen does look nice, but I think as far as colors, etc, the nine pro has pixel beat with ability to produce, I believe, 1 billion colors, and the pixel like 17 million
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The Pixel supports HDR10 which means it supports 1.07 billion colors as well. SDR is limited to 16.7 million but HDR is not.
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I have both coming from 9 pro. You can definitely see the pixel 7 pro screen in sunlight. The nine pro also is pretty good. Couple thing to note that stands out to me, the pixel screen feels/appears a little bigger to me, I believe mainly due to screen curve with the 9 pro having much more curve. The one thing that surprised me was the pixel screen being rated #1 Android screen on DXO_Mark, since the screen does look nice, but I think as far as colors, etc, the nine pro has pixel beat with ability to produce, I believe, 1 billion colors, and the pixel like 17 million. I still prefer the pixel though for the record, since the 9 pro and Color Os saga when Android 12 came out. Also the pixel camera obviously is pretty hard to beat for double click power button, point and shoot. The pixel has been pretty nice except for the charging speed.
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To point out the statement regarding "saturation" on OP9 Pro compared to Pixel 7 Pro. Keep in mind that "higher" saturation doesn't equal "better". Pixel 7 Pro is above OP9 Pro in terms of display for various reasons, one of them and one of the most important one is the color accuracy. If you need saturation, you can always use a third-party app to boost it. Same as it was done on OP9 Pro through the "Wide-Gamut" display setting.
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The Pixel supports HDR10 which means it supports 1.07 billion colors as well. SDR is limited to 16.7 million but HDR is not.
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To point out the statement regarding "saturation" on OP9 Pro compared to Pixel 7 Pro. Keep in mind that "higher" saturation doesn't equal "better". Pixel 7 Pro is above OP9 Pro in terms of display for various reasons, one of them and one of the most important one is the color accuracy. If you need saturation, you can always use a third-party app to boost it. Same as it was done on OP9 Pro through the "Wide-Gamut" display setting.
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Thanks for pointing this out, that makes sense now, and I was wondering about this. Overall I've been pretty happy w/ the pixel and I have increased the saturation.
I would say the Pixel 7 Pro is a far better phone in every way. The only thing I am missing is the silent, vibrate physical button. I get 5G pretty much everywhere. Pixlel 7 Pro gets 5G in places my OnePlus 9 pro couldn't. Im back on Nova Launcher after 3 Oneplus phones I didn't really need. Pixel needs it to remove Google search bar.
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Anyone here coming from the OP 9 Pro?
I'd like to know which screen is easier to read under direct extra-bright sunlight.
And which has louder, fuller sounding speakers?
Anything else you think is interesting to note as a difference.
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Easily the Pixel 7 Pro is easier to read
I have both and frequently switch between the two.... Gaming is better on the 9pro obviously... The fit in hand is better on the 9pro and this is a big deal to me... I also like the build better as the screen doesn't feel so hollow... Speakers edge out to the 9pro... Standby drain edge out to the 9pro as well... I shoot RAW when I can, so the camera isnt that big of a factor for me but the 7pro is great for dim, quick shots...
There are some differences with smoothness including this website on Firefox... The 9pro is consistently smoother... It gets choppy more often with the 7pro...
The 9pro also stays cooler ... Dunno what this really means though, maybe it's just better at "hiding" the heat whereas the 7pro let's the heat expand out...
These differences are very close... The 9pro just got OS13 and seems much better than 12...
If I were to pick between the 2, I'd stick with my 9pro because of fit in hand AND the super fast charging... Too convenient...
CZ Eddie said:
Anyone here coming from the OP 9 Pro?
I'd like to know which screen is easier to read under direct extra-bright sunlight.
And which has louder, fuller sounding speakers?
Anything else you think is interesting to note as a difference.
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I went from OP 8T + and decided against the 10 Pro in favor of the Pixel 7 Pro. It's a great phone designed around real world performance ignoring benchmark performance. It's like the only phone that runs 2 main cores with a 2+2+4 setup when all other phones run 1 big core. Screen is excellent, especially brightness
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I went from OP 8T + and decided against the 10 Pro in favor of the Pixel 7 Pro. It's a great phone designed around real world performance ignoring benchmark performance. It's like the only phone that runs 2 main cores with a 2+2+4 setup when all other phones run 1 big core. Screen is excellent, especially brightness
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I made the mistake of getting a 10 pro before my 6a. Worst experience ever. I wasexcited to see it finally being sold in the us, but of course the moment it was oneplus murders their os
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FYI, fully functional GCAM is already there since the phone came out. Check the Gcam from BSG, there is even a "dedicated" group for the Pixel 7 series and Gcam including a few people who made config and lib. Of course, Gcam already performs FAR better than the stock Google camera.
Also, I got the 9 Pro too, and the camera doesn't even come close to Pixel 7 Pro's.
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I've found 8.6V10 Gcam, but havent found any great configs for it. What is the link to the dedicated group?
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I made the mistake of getting a 10 pro before my 6a. Worst experience ever. I wasexcited to see it finally being sold in the us, but of course the moment it was oneplus murders their os
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I understand, I've been a OnePlus fan since their creation. The concept behind the company was a true flagship killer concept. Sadly by the time the 9's hit they went down the drain. I'm really happy with my Google Pixel 7 Pro, but the slow charging is a bummer
OnePlus software was ahead of its time.
But the hardware was behind the times (IMO) until the 9 Pro.
But that was the same time they went out of date with software.
I used to have the 9 pro, but I sold it. Its battery was horrifyingly bad (maybe the device was faulty). The vibration was weak and the speakers were OKish (no bass and depth just loudness).
As someone mentioned above, I can confirm that the camera was hit or miss with heavy colour saturation.
Furthermore, I liked more the curved screen of the Oneplus, the front camera placement and the extremely fast battery charging. Also, I was getting better cellular reception on the Oneplus 9 pro, maybe due to its modem and support of 5g in my country.
So far I'm enjoying almost every aspect of the Pixel 7 Pro. For the initial price bundled with the pixel watch, I think it was the best deal currently available for new premium android.
MustangLife03 said:
I understand, I've been a OnePlus fan since their creation. The concept behind the company was a true flagship killer concept. Sadly by the time the 9's hit they went down the drain. I'm really happy with my Google Pixel 7 Pro, but the slow charging is a bummer
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A 9 might've been a better choice from the start then a 10 since it was before their whole "pay to unbrick" nonsense. But i guess oneplus helped me find a good phone in a way by being the first ever one i returned. I feel a llittle dumb getting something soo expensive when i could get comparible preformance for 300 dollars instead of oneplus's laughable 700 or 800 dollars
I bought Pixel 7 pro today. Im reverting back to my OP9. I couldn´t find a way to pass safetynet on
GP7. I have full root and passing on my OP9 A13.
i will return the Pixel tomorrow, sadly.
Smedslund said:
I bought Pixel 7 pro today. Im reverting back to my OP9. I couldn´t find a way to pass safetynet on
GP7. I have full root and passing on my OP9 A13.
i will return the Pixel tomorrow, sadly.
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I never knew you could even pass it without usnf. Aren't all 0hones nowadays hardware verified or whatever? I don't even care if i pass personally since i use websites for banking and avoid gpay because it failed me. One too many times (unrooted)