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Mix 2S vs Huwaei Mate 10 Pro

Hello to everyone. Any views on Mix 2S vs Mate 10 Pro?
I am having a hard time deciding between the two. On the one hand the Mate 10 Pro in "sexy" blue, with the official European support and service, the camera, the AI, the battery life, the IR, and the known quality. On the other hand Mix2S 6/128 which is unknown territory to me, bought from sometimes dodgy Chinese sites, non-official or difficult support, and questionable battery, but innovative and practical and also rather "sexy" in ceramic (please correct me if this the 6/128 is not ceramic), with the practicality of wireless charging. Price is roughly the same. Thanks
(PS. 1+6 is too apple-ish, so out of the equation. Perhaps the Smartisan R1 would be a strong contender having the best looks, but again hard to find and no idea about the support and build quality).

In my opinion you don't really need the support, if you buy it on tradingshenzen for example you can buy a 2-year insurance for 24€ covering nearly everything. The camera on the 2s is awesome but I don't know the mate 10 camera so I can't compare it. I get about 6-7h SOT so battery life is not bad. IR is a great feature and I miss it a bit but not very much. The build quality of the 2s is awesome it feels very very premium but it's a little bit heavy. Yes, the 128 version has a ceramic back and the sides are aluminum. There's a full ceramic version but that's only the 256gb version I think. If you have some questions feel free to ask

I have both and I actually prefer the Mix 2S. I've had many Xiaomi phones in the past, so I'm more partial to Xiaomi and MIUI, but I wanted to try the Mate 10 Pro. The 2S camera is right up there with the Mate 10 Pro. I like the fact that the Mate 10 is waterproof, AMOLED screen, and slightly better feel in the hand. I feel Xiaomi has more frequent updates, especially if you decide to try the dev ROM.
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Thanks to both replies. One question: Does Google Pay work on Mix 2S? Thanks

christis said:
Thanks to both replies. One question: Does Google Pay work on Mix 2S? Thanks
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Yup, I use it all the time.
Sent from my Mi MIX 2S using Tapatalk

Ulver said:
Yup, I use it all the time.
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Sorry to be off topic, but is your device Chinese or Global version? I can't get GPay working on my Chinese one, always stuck on "contacting your bank" message.

teddy74eva said:
Sorry to be off topic, but is your device Chinese or Global version? I can't get GPay working on my Chinese one, always stuck on "contacting your bank" message.
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I have the global version with the global ROM.
Sent from my Mi MIX 2S using Tapatalk

Ulver said:
I have the global version with the global ROM.
Sent from my Mi MIX 2S using Tapatalk
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Whats your standby drain like? Debating on a 2s vs waiting on a Zenfone 5z.
My s9+ is getting sold off once its paid off, battery life is inconsistent at best and it really annoys me. Former View 10 and Mate 10 were far far better.

christis said:
Hello to everyone. Any views on Mix 2S vs Mate 10 Pro?
I am having a hard time deciding between the two. On the one hand the Mate 10 Pro in "sexy" blue, with the official European support and service, the camera, the AI, the battery life, the IR, and the known quality. On the other hand Mix2S 6/128 which is unknown territory to me, bought from sometimes dodgy Chinese sites, non-official or difficult support, and questionable battery, but innovative and practical and also rather "sexy" in ceramic (please correct me if this the 6/128 is not ceramic), with the practicality of wireless charging. Price is roughly the same. Thanks
(PS. 1+6 is too apple-ish, so out of the equation. Perhaps the Smartisan R1 would be a strong contender having the best looks, but again hard to find and no idea about the support and build quality).
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Well Huawei just announced that they won't allow unlocking the bootloader anymore https://twitter.com/PaulOBrien/status/999621512792600576?s=19

taphius said:
Whats your standby drain like? Debating on a 2s vs waiting on a Zenfone 5z.
My s9+ is getting sold off once its paid off, battery life is inconsistent at best and it really annoys me. Former View 10 and Mate 10 were far far better.
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I'm getting 8+ hours of screen on time and less than 10% drain overnight.

Flatric said:
Well Huawei just announced that they won't allow unlocking the bootloader anymore https://twitter.com/PaulOBrien/status/999621512792600576?s=19
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This really sucks! Well, I guess it makes our lives easier. Fewer choices, easier decision, he he..

Flatric said:
Well Huawei just announced that they won't allow unlocking the bootloader anymore https://twitter.com/PaulOBrien/status/999621512792600576?s=19
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christis said:
This really sucks! Well, I guess it makes our lives easier. Fewer choices, easier decision, he he..
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Xiaomi unlocking waiting time does not seem so bad anymore.

Bill Power said:
Xiaomi unlocking waiting time does not seem so bad anymore.
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LOL..... Spot on!
BTW the way I understand it, is that there won't be any waiting time on the phones sold through their recently opened European stores (at least it is not mentioned in the instructions).

Ulver said:
I have both and I actually prefer the Mix 2S. I've had many Xiaomi phones in the past, so I'm more partial to Xiaomi and MIUI, but I wanted to try the Mate 10 Pro. The 2S camera is right up there with the Mate 10 Pro. I like the fact that the Mate 10 is waterproof, AMOLED screen, and slightly better feel in the hand. I feel Xiaomi has more frequent updates, especially if you decide to try the dev ROM.
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Can you tell me something about the speaker and mic, compare to Mate 10 Pro? I think the Mate 10 Pro is about 10 times better than the Mix 2s

Coming from LG G6

Hey
I'm currently a lg G6 user and I'm thinking about buying the mi mix 2s !
I live in Paris so had the chance to test it live in their store and found it beautiful, the screen was very good and the camera too, but I also tried the Xiaomi S2 in hand and felt good too.
I know the price would be a factor, but it's not the case for me and Idk what to buy, the S2 or the mi mix 2s.
I mostly use my phone for youtube, chatting sms calls... no games and I take many pictures, so the camera and battery are important to me (I also like to use custom roms ...)
I ask you if you could please give me your opinion and help me choose
Many thanks !

The Mi Mix 2S has the better camera and internal specs, also the build materials are better. But that's because they are different phones, aimed at different targets: The Mi Mix 2S being a flagship, whereas the S2 is a mid tier phone.

I totally agree with Kristof_clg, however keep in mind that the 2s is very heavy. Feels very strange if you are not used to it

I also came from a G6. Don't get the 2S. Hell, don't get any Xiaomi device.
Too many broken/missing features.
Just get another LG or something like that.

I was on LG G5, next ZUK Z2 Pro, next OnePlus 3 and now on Mix 2S and it's A LOT better than all previous ones, smoothness, camera, quality build, the screen, it's very very impressive, I know the G6 and you should leave LG for Xiaomi.

I moved from LG6 to MIX 2S and don't regret it. all specs are obviously better, including battery life. took me a while to get used to weight, MIX 2s is a very, very heavy device. there were few problems with original software, but latest update fixed it. Camera is much better. design was the reason i bought MIX, but if i should do it again, i will not buy Xiaomi device again.

barcode99 said:
I moved from LG6 to MIX 2S and don't regret it. all specs are obviously better, including battery life. took me a while to get used to weight, MIX 2s is a very, very heavy device. there were few problems with original software, but latest update fixed it. Camera is much better. design was the reason i bought MIX, but if i should do it again, i will not buy Xiaomi device again.
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SolarisSixth said:
I also came from a G6. Don't get the 2S. Hell, don't get any Xiaomi device.
Too many broken/missing features.
Just get another LG or something like that.
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Could you please explain the reasons why? Since I already had a redmi note 4 it was great overall besides the camera.
Thanks !

"Very, very heavy" ?! Seriously ? I don't feel it heavy at all ?

Bryandu13 said:
"Very, very heavy" ?! Seriously ? I don't feel it heavy at all
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Depends on what phone you had before. I bought the 2s after I used the oneplus one for a long time... The 1+1 is wonderful lightweight and the 2s feels like I can murder someone with it

Bryandu13 said:
"Very, very heavy" ?! Seriously ? I don't feel it heavy at all
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191 g vs 163 g that's a very big difference, isn't it?

barcode99 said:
191 g vs 163 g that's a very big difference, isn't it?
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Maybe for girls

barcode99 said:
191 g vs 163 g that's a very big difference, isn't it?
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It simply doesn't make a big deal to me.
I owned 11 smartphones and it truly doesn't bother me. In fact I'm okay with it.
Just my personal preference.

I came from an HTC 10 and a Nexus 6 before that. Neither of those phones was built to be a lightweight, and even I noticed how heavy the 2S is. That said, it doesn't bother me a bit. To me if feels sturdy and I would much rather that than it feeling cheap and like it couldn't take a drop (my first couple of Samsung phones come to mind). Plus as stated earlier, you could use it as an effective weapon if needed

LG have had quality build issues. G4 bootloop due to bad memory, G5 gps Very weak, to not working at all. I have a g5 currently and have a mix 2s on its way to me. I dont know what missing features apart from headphone jack and no microsd slot there are. Mix 2s has an ir blaster like g5 has which you wont find on any other current flagship main stream device now and 8gb ram 256gb rom is more than what samsung or lg give you, 4gb of ram on s9 is terrible for a premium device. Micro sd cards are reletively slow anyway, getting 256gb mix 2s negates the need for microsd.

scote said:
LG have had quality build issues. G4 bootloop due to bad memory, G5 gps Very weak, to not working at all. I have a g5 currently and have a mix 2s on its way to me. I dont know what missing features apart from headphone jack and no microsd slot there are. Mix 2s has an ir blaster like g5 has which you wont find on any other current flagship main stream device now and 8gb ram 256gb rom is more than what samsung or lg give you, 4gb of ram on s9 is terrible for a premium device. Micro sd cards are reletively slow anyway, getting 256gb mix 2s negates the need for microsd.
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The Mix 2S has an IR blaster? I tried the Mi Remote app and it told me the phone wasn't compatible.

Homestar1217 said:
The Mix 2S has an IR blaster? I tried the Mi Remote app and it told me the phone wasn't compatible.
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Sorry it doesn't. Some sites that list specs incorrectly say it has. Obviously googling for "mix2s ir blaster" takes you to those sites, my mistake. I have my mix 2s now, I didn't when I posted that.

Vivo nex s or mi mix 2s ?

I wanna buy new phone with total new experience
After my p20 pro
Which one should i buy?

Maybe the Mi Mix 3 but not the 2S.
Now i would take the NEX because the 3 is not out.

What a silly question.
You can't decide between a super-spec flagship vs. an underwhelming sequel with the camera in the wrong place?

lude219 said:
What a silly question.
You can't decide between a super-spec flagship vs. an underwhelming sequel with the camera in the wrong place?
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Which one is the super? ?

None 8a better than the P20pro. Here's why.
The performance in flagships have plateaued because most of them can handle anything without breaking a sweat. The Kirin 970 is still good.
Now the p20 pro has a camera that is still unbeatable... Esp those handheld 4/5 sec long exposure shots.
If you still want to buy a phone, still, don't get any of these cause the UI remotely follows a similar role model. Get the Pixel 2 XL.
Of these two (Nex or 2S), the Nex is better, IMHO.

Vivo nex is a far better option than mi mix 2s.
I'm currently using nex, though i have not used mix 2s.
I have used mix 2 as it was launched in my country India.
Mix 2 was a strictly good phone. Nothing Excellent about it.
But the vivo nex is much superior. The display quality is enough to beat mi mix 2s.
Better camera , latest tech and battery are other few advantages.

shakticool said:
Vivo nex is a far better option than mi mix 2s.
I'm currently using nex, though i have not used mix 2s.
I have used mix 2 as it was launched in my country India.
Mix 2 was a strictly good phone. Nothing Excellent about it.
But the vivo nex is much superior. The display quality is enough to beat mi mix 2s.
Better camera , latest tech and battery are other few advantages.
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Thanks my friend ?

My previous phone was a Mi Mix 2, cant compare these 2, the Nex is a beast!

I have been using the Mix 2s for about a month now and i am observing this forum to see if its worth "upgrading" to the Nex in the next few months. I always have a fear of early batch production issues and it seems like there is a thread that already exists dedicated to poor display panels. Suffered with the Sony xperias and even galaxies. Lesson learnt, wait until the later batches have been manufactured.
As to Mix 2s over Nex, i can already see several advantages that puts the Nex as the top pick! Aside from the new tech that is yet to be implemented in the Mix series, and im saying this with the lack of visibility over the dev community on funtouch os, i would think that Vivo would only be inferior in the software department. Xiaomi so far has a huge community dedicated to MIUI and they're after all, focusing on this aspect as part of their selling point. Nonetheless, MIUI is still buggy as heck so i would be wary of FuntouchOS unless someone can vouch for that software which clearly looks like an iOS copycat (imho)
My opinion on the 2s:
Pro
1. Looks pretty; first time using a ceramic phone, becareful it shatters unforgivably
2. Small form factor despite a 6 inch screen, well because of that display
3. Fast, 845 SD same as the NEX. This one should not show any difference with the NEX
Cons
1. lacks in a good camera (despite the high DXOmark score, the rear camera is buggy and is inconsistent, dont get me started on that poor Front camera)
2. battery, soso (probably due to average size batter and LCD panel)
3. lacks a punchy speaker (false stereo, dont expect an immersive experience)
4. Proximity sensor is inconsistent (using a new tech leveraging infra tech, which is also not consistent when you're on the phone)
5. Buggy software (this one is frustrating, apps occasionally crash and i cant use spotify now for some odd reason, yet to reformat but ill do that when miui10 comes out)

Xiaomi Mi problems or just rumors?

Hi XDA guys!
Everybody knows that Mi series goal is to be better than Redmi at least in specs and performance.
But how about performance to price ratio, how about all other things that You dont worry and dont expect in REDMI casue it's cheap but You do expect it in the MI series?
What are the problems/things that You don't like in MI series?
What are the problems/things that You don't like in REDMI series if there is any? WHY? Cause we all know not to expect wonders for a low budget priced phones.
I've talked to many people who had/have REDMI and MI series Xiaomi phones (clients, selllers, internet folks, friends) and they only agree on ONE thing -the price is great wheter it is REMI or MI phone.
A strange thing happens.... REDMI owners are always satisfied. The only thing that bothers not all of them is the camera quality.
But in low and middle price segment REDMI beats EVERY other BRAND.
Xiaomi has also great prices in the high end flagship models but here MANY PEOPLE are dissapointed.
For example camera quality, screen quiality, body, bezel, bugs, no NFC, no european B20 LTE band.
The MI users also tell me that non of the above bothers them but something totaly different. EACH person = an original problem with MI device.
Can You please tell me what are Your problems/dislikes with MI and REDMI devices cause I'm about to buy one from each segment?
What should I worry about (Android updates maybe?) buying a REDMI and a MI phone IN YOUR PERSONAL EXPERIANCE?
Don't get me wrong. I never had a MI phone but in shops they perform GREAT so I wonder what's the fuss is about?

You Xiaomi Mi Mix 2S is running good, Internal version with all bands, I bought it in Xiaomi shop in France so it's normal to get everything good.
The problems that I noticed are a performances issues on benchmarks and the back glass is very fragile, I have scratches even with the case.
I have big hopes with Android P.

Bryandu13 said:
You Xiaomi Mi Mix 2S is running good, Internal version with all bands, I bought it in Xiaomi shop in France so it's normal to get everything good.
The problems that I noticed are a performances issues on benchmarks and the back glass is very fragile, I have scratches even with the case.
I have big hopes with Android P.
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Thanks for reply dude, I have some questions though:
1. What exactly did You notice on benchmarks? Performance issues shouldn't exist. It's the fastest CPU (SD 845).
2.Why do You have big hopes with Android P. Is Oreo making problems and what kind?
3. It would seem like in flagship models the manufactuers put very delicate screens probably to earn more cash on repair. I have the same problem on Samsung Galaxy S8. A slightly nail can scratch the surface and still they say it's gorilla glass. That unacceptable.
On Redmi Note 4 (cheap Xiaomi phone) I have such a hard screen that I don't need any kind of protection....

My mi mix 2s issue is just about ghosting screen and laggy video recording, other than that is perfect.

So many issues. Mostly software which has too many bugs to list. Text selection is buggy. Text input is laggy because of full screen gestures. Often no way to switch apps during calls. MIUI is a disaster. Our Mi A2 running Android One is a significant step up.
In terms of hardware, the Mix 2s is ok. The screen is the main problem. It is not very bright outside compared to my old pixel. Also it scratches very easily. I've never had a scratch on a phone screen in over 10 years, but I already have 2 on this handset after a few weeks and I don't have a clue how as I don't keep anything else in the same pocket. It says it is gorilla glass but I don't believe it - I think it is made out of cheese

I've noticed performance drops on benchmarks too. First Antutu score was 270k, the last one i did after factory was 209k....
Phone gets hot real quick, idle cpu temperature is around 39C.
My camera lens started to peel... after a week

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Thanks for reply dude, I have some questions though:
1. What exactly did You notice on benchmarks? Performance issues shouldn't exist. It's the fastest CPU (SD 845).
2.Why do You have big hopes with Android P. Is Oreo making problems and what kind?
3. It would seem like in flagship models the manufactuers put very delicate screens probably to earn more cash on repair. I have the same problem on Samsung Galaxy S8. A slightly nail can scratch the surface and still they say it's gorilla glass. That unacceptable.
On Redmi Note 4 (cheap Xiaomi phone) I have such a hard screen that I don't need any kind of protection....
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1 - Low scores for a S845 (less than 200k on AnTuTu, 3400 on 3dmark slingshot extreme, 1900-7000 on Geekbench)
2 - Xiaomi announced big buffs for camera and performances with their Android P builds.
3 - I'm just talking about scratches, because the back is ceramic and shouldn't be scrashed so easily under a case (the provided one).

That scratching is simply a way to tell Your subconcius to buy another flagship from Xiaomi cause the current one will be too scrached.
Are You sure that the long awaited Mi Mix 2s has a long list of bugs?
Xiaomi did overtime to put this phone on the market with flawless opinion.
What else I can expect from Mi Mix 2s and do You think that these bugs won't exist in the newly lanuched Mi8?
BTW It's a shame, Xiaomi was well on their way to beat even Samsung with performance to price ratio but they suddenly asked too much cash for their top phones.
If they would keep up what has been done in the low budget phones we could have a worldwide revolution resouting in ALL brands lowering their price for even flagship phones.
It was so close... We all would benefit from it. For example a Samsung S9+ instead of 1000 $ would cost 600 USD.
Xiaomi did us no favor and got all of a sudden a big time player alhought their flagships are yet far from being great.

Who cares?I am using this phone, not someone else.I like it, this is the most important thing.

1 - My Mix 2S never freezes. Never.
2 - I'm not facing any issue with video recording (4k).
3 - I don't give a **** for performing Antutu tests. I just look at its scores before buying.
4 - I'm with Mix 2S about 20 days and there's no lens peeling or scratches. I am careful with it. I can sell it right now as a new.

Adriano-A3 said:
1 - My Mix 2S never freezes. Never.
2 - I'm not facing any issue with video recording (4k).
3 - I don't give a **** for performing Antutu tests. I just look at its scores before buying.
4 - I'm with Mix 2S about 20 days and there's no lens peeling or scratches. I am careful with it. I can sell it right now as a new.
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2 - Just check in camera settings 60 fps isn't available.
3 - ok, but the Snapdragon 845 was a major spec for this device and the phone perform like a S835 one.
4 - You're lucky for the scraches, I don't know how the mine have been scrached under a case, but I have no lens peeling neither.

I've had mine for 3 months now, and it's perfect for me, especially for the price.
No scratches, no peel lenses, and I don't notice any ghosting. In fact, my only gripe is that the MIUI notification pull down with the brightness slider needs you to touch where the slider is before you can move it. My previous phone (ZUK Z2 Pro) let you tap anywhere on the slider bar and it would move to where your finger is. So quickly upping to full brightness in sunlight on my Mix 2S is trickier as I need to see where the slider is.

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2 - Just check in camera settings 60 fps isn't available.
3 - ok, but the Snapdragon 845 was a major spec for this device and the phone perform like a S835 one.
4 - You're lucky for the scraches, I don't know how the mine have been scrached under a case, but I have no lens peeling neither.
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2 - You are right. Is Xiaomi crazy?
3 - As I told for a friend early: I didn't notice any difference while using Mix 2 and Mix 2S. I'm not on gaming. I just want a never-lag device, iykwim.
4 - I'm with my device 24 hours per day. I know where it is everytime.

I have the global model 128gb version and as soon as it was set up I was disappointed with MIUI.
Never had a Xiaomi device before but the rom sucks and has so many bugs in it it's really annoying.
Fortunately some people here are developing custom ROMs and I'm on pixel experience gsi right now which works flawlessly. It's like having a Pixel for half the price. Of course there is some work left for the Devs regarding some little features like auto brightness and camera apps but I'm use a Gcam port and it's fine for me.
It's not the device IMO its the software that kills it. They have good prices but the bootloader unlocking process is really annoying and their software suite like the MiFlash tool is really crappy.
I tried flashing the Android P Beta from Xiaomi and almost bricked my phone because they just forgot to include some batch files in the original download. I was lucky because some guy here provided all the needed files and I got the device running but this must not happen to a company that wants to be a global player.
Just my 2 cents...
I use the provided case and have no scratches, lens peels whatsoever but the case start to break on the lower right corner after just 2 months and taking it off only 3 times. But it was free so I'm okay with that.

kleinholzinferno said:
I have the global model 128gb version and as soon as it was set up I was disappointed with MIUI.
Never had a Xiaomi device before but the rom sucks and has so many bugs in it it's really annoying.
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Well, this is your respectable opinion but I really don't understand why people spend 500 USD/EUR being totally unconscious of the products they are buying.
MIUI OS has been developed for many years and it always had the same peculiarities: extremely visually accurate, feature-rich, buggy, childish.
MIUI is something you just love or hate. But it has been so for years: people should know in advance when they buy normal Xiaomi devices (I mean, other than A1 or A2).
It is very surprising that buyers complain of something everibody knows.
I also own a Samsung S7 Edge, which is "boring": never had a single issue in two years.
When I bought the Mi Mix 2S I was perfectly aware that I was buying a totally different phone, with an OS which apparently is always in beta stage.
But, you know, my Xiaomi is just fun!

guildamx said:
Well, this is your respectable opinion but I really don't understand why people spend 500 USD/EUR being totally unconscious of the products they are buying.
MIUI OS has been developed for many years and it always had the same peculiarities: extremely visually accurate, feature-rich, buggy, childish.
MIUI is something you just love or hate. But it has been so for years: people should know in advance when they buy normal Xiaomi devices (I mean, other than A1 or A2).
It is very surprising that buyers complain of something everibody knows.
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The problem is that reviews never talk about the bugs or missing features. And the ROM flashing community makes it sound easy to just swap to an AOSP ROM, without mentioning that AOSP ROMs take a very long time to develop and lose features like camera quality etc.
Personally I expected MIUI to be a bit annoying. I used it 6 years ago and it was not great but I had expected it to have improved. I was wrong. It is the worst experience I've had on a phone out of the box. I can't believe companies manage to sell consumer devices this bad. Xiaomi puts a tonne of effort into a ROM that has fewer features and worse usability than stock Android. Why invest so much energy into making something worse?

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The problem is that reviews never talk about the bugs or missing features. And the ROM flashing community makes it sound easy to just swap to an AOSP ROM, without mentioning that AOSP ROMs take a very long time to develop and lose features like camera quality etc.
Personally I expected MIUI to be a bit annoying. I used it 6 years ago and it was not great but I had expected it to have improved. I was wrong. It is the worst experience I've had on a phone out of the box. I can't believe companies manage to sell consumer devices this bad. Xiaomi puts a tonne of effort into a ROM that has fewer features and worse usability than stock Android. Why invest so much energy into making something worse?
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I had both stock and miui , emui , etc...
I had Nokia 8 , Lg G6 , Honor 8 huawei p9 , p10 plus, xiaomi mi mix 2s , samsung s5
And i dont understand why do you say that miui has less features ... It has theme engine (no root) ,gestures, optimized battery saving , screen temprature
It seems you dont know what you are talking about , i found that the phone with less features was nokia 8 (stock) . The only thing good was the fastest updates but i had no control about nothing

guildamx said:
Well, this is your respectable opinion but I really don't understand why people spend 500 USD/EUR being totally unconscious of the products they are buying.
MIUI OS has been developed for many years and it always had the same peculiarities: extremely visually accurate, feature-rich, buggy, childish.
MIUI is something you just love or hate. But it has been so for years: people should know in advance when they buy normal Xiaomi devices (I mean, other than A1 or A2).
It is very surprising that buyers complain of something everibody knows.
I also own a Samsung S7 Edge, which is "boring": never had a single issue in two years.
When I bought the Mi Mix 2S I was perfectly aware that I was buying a totally different phone, with an OS which apparently is always in beta stage.
But, you know, my Xiaomi is just fun!
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Just to clarify some things:
Before buying a product at that price range I'm thoroughly investigating the product. So I was not "totally unconscious" as you call it.
I was aware of the OS and the differences from stock android. But if you can't get your hands on a device before buying it you have to trust reviews and hands on videos. And almost all of them didn't mention the problems I encountered.
As posted before you're getting lied to or bugs and errors are just sugarcoated and no one tells the truth.
I have no problem flashing phones and always did and I'm glad there are alternatives for this piece of crap MIUI. You say it's developed for years? Maybe, but for this amount of time invested into an OS we could expect a better performance and stable ROMs without all the bugs.
Have you ever read the official MIUI forum? Besides the point whor**g there it's full of bugs and problems and none of the Xiaomi devs gives a flying f*ck about the people reporting them.
I'm happy with the pixel experience rom by now. Never going back again.
End of rant.
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DMart9406 said:
It has theme engine (no root) ,gestures, optimized battery saving , screen temprature
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Yeah themes are the most important feature... especially when you have to set your location to India to get it to work.
You know, that's one of the things that makes me mad. It's not only about pushing as many features into a rom as possible. They should work properly to be a benefit. Not working features are a no-go.
And all of the things you mention are not MIUI specific. They try to copy all the good stuff from other manufacturers, but fail permanently.
Battery life was catastrophic with MIUI. With the Pixel Experience rom I get twice the SOT. And that's with a not device customized GSI...let that sink in.

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Again, that is your point of view. I am not saying you are lying, just that your opinion is highly subjective.
1) MIUI forum is full of children writing "cool" and "great". Nothing comparable with XDA. But is has been so since the beginning. Every experienced android user knows (and keeps far away). Why complain now?
2) As I wrote above, I also own a Samsung S7 Edge, whose OS is rock-solid. Still I cannot complain about the lack of feature in MIUI. For example I have many routines in my ordinary day; with the S7 I used Tasker for scheduling vibration mode, wifi on/off, connection and so on; MIUI has this feature and works great, without additional apps (and root!). Same for taking screen captures: no need to edit build.prob, as MIUI has a simple gesture for that. I agree that MIUI may have some bugs, but definitely the issue is not the lack of features.
3) Battery life was "catastrophic" just in your configuration. In my configuration battery drain is comparable with S7, i.e. very good.

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Again, that is your point of view. I am not saying you are lying, just that your opinion is highly subjective.
1) MIUI forum is full of children writing "cool" and "great". Nothing comparable with XDA. But is has been so since the beginning. Every experienced android user knows (and keeps far away). Why complain now?
2) As I wrote above, I also own a Samsung S7 Edge, whose OS is rock-solid. Still I cannot complain about the lack of feature in MIUI. For example I have many routines in my ordinary day; with the S7 I used Tasker for scheduling vibration mode, wifi on/off, connection and so on; MIUI has this feature and works great, without additional apps (and root!). Same for taking screen captures: no need to edit build.prob, as MIUI has a simple gesture for that. I agree that MIUI may have some bugs, but definitely the issue is not the lack of features.
3) Battery life was "catastrophic" just in your configuration. In my configuration battery drain is comparable with S7, i.e. very good.
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Of course my opinion is subjective...as all opinions are. I just pointed out what bothers me about the forum, the device and the software.
I've seen and used much better android ROMs and MIUI is just not for me. So I switched the rom asap.
I also used Samsung's UI on my brand new tablet with at the time some of the best hardware you could get. And guess what it lagged awfully. So I dumped the Samsung firmware, installed lineage and it's snappy and responsive. No comparison.
But everybody likes and uses or needs other features, as you mentioned and that's perfectly fine. That's the great advantage of a free system like android.
I just don't need the "features" of MIUI to me it's overloaded.
Regarding the forum you're right. It's like playing COD with a bunch of 14 year olds on steroids.

Vivo Nex S or Mi Mix 2S or Meizu 16th

Hey there!
So I've always been a Xiaomi fan for the past 4 years, although I've been offered either a Vivo Nex S or the Meizu 16th for my Xiaomi Mi Mix 2S + 90€...
Wondering if such a deal is worth it, and if so for which?
I love them both due to the screens and on-screen fingerprint reader so just looking for a more "in-depth" opinion...
Cheers!

i can tell you i had mi mix 2s and i sold it to buy vivo nex s in which is arriving in 2 weeks
2 things i did to want this
the battery on mi mix2s with 5-7 hours SoT due to the 3400mah and LCD IPS screen.
and the selfie camera which i dont use that often but when i did it annoyed me having to up side down.
the only thing ill probably going to regret is the lack of support towards roms, root and other mods.
But we will have to see and wait for Funtouch OS to get better in time.
About Meizu 16th can't say for certain but a 3010mah battery doesn't look promising and the design is also something i don't like in comparison to the vivo nex.
So i say VivoNexS>MiMix2s>Meizu16th

A flagship without battery kife is nothing that's the reason y i dintt got s9 or so plus

wetpanda said:
Hey there!
So I've always been a Xiaomi fan for the past 4 years, although I've been offered either a Vivo Nex S or the Meizu 16th for my Xiaomi Mi Mix 2S + 90€...
Wondering if such a deal is worth it, and if so for which?
I love them both due to the screens and on-screen fingerprint reader so just looking for a more "in-depth" opinion...
Cheers!
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I replaced my Mix2 with the NexS and I'm loving it. Don't know much about the Meizu but it certainly won't match the Nex in battery life.

Thanks guys! Vivo it is!
EDIT: just got offered a 6T for 130€ more. Is it worth or should I. Keep with the vivo? Also, regarding to Roms, how's funtouch compared to MIUI or even OxygenOS?
Cheers

wetpanda said:
Thanks guys! Vivo it is!
EDIT: just got offered a 6T for 130€ more. Is it worth or should I. Keep with the vivo? Also, regarding to Roms, how's funtouch compared to MIUI or even OxygenOS?
Cheers
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Despite what some might say Funtouch isn't all that bad, however OxygenOS for me is leaps and bounds better. However the Vivo Nex (international) is one very nice device, the battery life is just sublime, display also & camera's are very nice to......:good:

wetpanda said:
Thanks guys! Vivo it is!
EDIT: just got offered a 6T for 130€ more. Is it worth or should I. Keep with the vivo? Also, regarding to Roms, how's funtouch compared to MIUI or even OxygenOS?
Cheers
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Coming directly from the Mix2 and MIUI I actually prefer Funtouch in many ways. I've never used Oxygen.
The Oneplus is a better known and more popular phone than the NexS but I don't think it's a better phone (especially with that horrible notch). I look at the NexS as a premium Oneplus since they're basically from the same stable but with a bigger full screen, battery, wow factor pop-up camera and exclusiveness. I think it's the most underrated phone of 2018.

Twotems said:
Coming directly from the Mix2 and MIUI I actually prefer Funtouch in many ways. I've never used Oxygen.
The Oneplus is a better known and more popular phone than the NexS but I don't think it's a better phone (especially with that horrible notch). I look at the NexS as a premium Oneplus since they're basically from the same stable but with a bigger full screen, battery, wow factor pop-up camera and exclusiveness. I think it's the most underrated phone of 2018.
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true

Wanted to take the time and "mini-necro" this to thank you guys for the suggestion. Vivo is just... wow... I still went for the 6T but traded it like 2 months later and couldn't be more satisfied.
Cheers

wetpanda said:
Wanted to take the time and "mini-necro" this to thank you guys for the suggestion. Vivo is just... wow... I still went for the 6T but traded it like 2 months later and couldn't be more satisfied.
Cheers
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We told ya!
Looking at what's been released so far for 2019, I don't really see any compelling reason to replace my Nex. It's that good and the new phones are just adopting what the Nex already has.

I'll use this post to ask something else. I'm getting a phone for a mate's birthday. Thinking about a Mi Mix 3 or an S9 Plus. I can get 'em both for the same price. Which should I take?

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I'll use this post to ask something else. I'm getting a phone for a mate's birthday. Thinking about a Mi Mix 3 or an S9 Plus. I can get 'em both for the same price. Which should I take?
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Neither. Get something with better battery life like the Zenfone 6, Nex S or P30. I'm a Xiaomi fan btw.

guys i git nex at 26k used 8 days n now selling at 23k 5 months used so should i upgrade to oneplus 7 not pro putting 10k extra ( m also interest in roms n mods) isbtht 10k worth