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I've only had two phones prior to this but I have always unlocked the boot loader / rooted the device / installed a custom recovery / installed custom ROMS.
I believe with my MOTO X 1st gen this disabled the OTA updates.
Is that the case with the Honor 8? I'm wondering if it is worth it to install TWRP at this point as there seems to be so little in the way of kernels and ROMS.
Would I still be able to use SU or Xposed modules without Root?
What is the best move with this phone?
I have unlocked my bootloader as well as rooted my Honor 8. The only way to get SU and Xposed is by doing both of these procedures(root involves getting TWRP).
As for any Xposed modules, I tried amplify+greenify but instead of getting better battery life, my standby time decreased significantly. I am not sure why, but for some reason my Cell standby was showing to be eating a ton of my battery. Another big problem was that the dialer app would not let me call anyone, it kept crashing whenever I tried to. Both problems were fixed after I managed to get amplify+greenify uninstalled. Currently I am just running YouTube AdAway and MinMinGuard which seem to work fine.
So at this point, is it worth unlocking bootleader, installing TWRP, and rooting your phone? Well if there are certain Xposed modules that you really want then sure, and if there are certain apps you like that require root, then yes go ahead and root your phone. Note that if you try any OTA updates, you will have to remove TWRP as having your phone automatically restart and try to install the update wont work.
Imagine that the Honor 8 receives an update to say, Nougat, what is the pathway to update for someone who has rooted their phone. Will the OTA be able to be flashed if a .zip is provided here? Would we need to flash an entirely new ROM?
This is what I faced with my MOTO X. When Marshmallow came out there was talk... but no one was working on the at phone any longer so was never able to update.
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Imagine that the Honor 8 receives an update to say, Nougat, what is the pathway to update for someone who has rooted their phone. Will the OTA be able to be flashed if a .zip is provided here? Would we need to flash an entirely new ROM?
This is what I faced with my MOTO X. When Marshmallow came out there was talk... but no one was working on the at phone any longer so was never able to update.
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It doesnt matter whether or not your phone is rooted. You will get updates the same way, through OTA. Of course you can find .zip files to flash(although personally I am struggling to get the latest update flashed through TWRP).
The real question is for how long will we be receiving updates? Nougat is pretty much guaranteed with the new EMUI update. Huawei/Honor has promised up to 2 years of updates from what I have heard, but who knows what that actually means. They have also have a "partnership" with XDA, and the phone is decently popular so I am sure there will be a few roms, just not as many as say a OP3.
Why are people trying to flash via TWRP if the OTA updates still work after rooting and unlocking the boot loader?
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Why are people trying to flash via TWRP if the OTA updates still work after rooting and unlocking the boot loader?
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Okay so I just figured it out, but for the OTA update to work after rooting and having a non-stock recovery, you need to go to Settings->Updater->Menu(located on the bottom)->Download latest full package.
The full package is ~1.6GB and the regular update is ~280mb. The full package will work even if you have TWRP installed. But if you want the regular 280mb update, you need to get rid of TWRP and go back to a stock recovery.
Of course you will need to reinstall TWRP and root your phone again after doing this update.
Rakeen70210 said:
Okay so I just figured it out, but for the OTA update to work after rooting and having a non-stock recovery, you need to go to Settings->Updater->Menu(located on the bottom)->Download latest full package.
The full package is ~1.6GB and the regular update is ~280mb. The full package will work even if you have TWRP installed. But if you want the regular 280mb update, you need to get rid of TWRP and go back to a stock recovery.
Of course you will need to reinstall TWRP and root your phone again after doing this update.
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I see the full package but I cant click on this, nothing is happened when I click on this.
Nas42O said:
I see the full package but I cant click on this, nothing is happened when I click on this.
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I am not sure what you mean. Do you mean you can see the text "Download latest full package" but it is greyed out? If so please check to see if you arent currently at the latest version. If there is another problem, you might want to try to find a .zip of the full package and flash it that way.
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I am not sure what you mean. Do you mean you can see the text "Download latest full package" but it is greyed out? If so please check to see if you arent currently at the latest version. If there is another problem, you might want to try to find a .zip of the full package and flash it that way.
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Yes , not greyed , but red color , and cant click on this .
I downloaded a full update of B31 about 1.77giga , just copy to the phone and flash it in twrp ?
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Yes , not greyed , but red color , and cant click on this .
I downloaded a full update of B31 about 1.77giga , just copy to the phone and flash it in twrp ?
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The exact latest update that I currently have is FRD-L04C567B150. I am not sure where you got your update but I suggest you just flash back to a complete stock image and try to update again from there.
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The exact latest update that I currently have is FRD-L04C567B150. I am not sure where you got your update but I suggest you just flash back to a complete stock image and try to update again from there.
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its normal , you live in India no ?
i'm live in European country , so update are different .. Last update for us is FRD-L04C432B130
Nas42O said:
its normal , you live in India no ?
i'm live in European country , so update are different .. Last update for us is FRD-L04C432B130
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No I am in the US. I am not sure about the EU version, but yes if you can find a .zip update file just put it on your phone and go into TWRP to install it. Might wanna make a backup too and wipe cache too just in case.
So if i download the full package in update and install it, bootloader will still be open? No full wipe? And later i only need to install twrp and root the phone again?
Palindrom87 said:
So if i download the full package in update and install it, bootloader will still be open? No full wipe? And later i only need to install twrp and root the phone again?
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Updating or wiping your phone does not lock the Bootloader. The only way to lock the Bootloader again is by doing it manually yourself.
Yes after doing a full update you will need to reinstall TWRP as it will be replaced with the stock recovery and then re-root your phone again.
Rakeen70210, you sound really confident about doing full updates after rooting. Will these full updates also replace the kernel?
palendrome87 and NAS420 could you guys report back with any success or errors you have flashing full updates?
Where can one download full updates for Honor 8?
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Rakeen70210, you sound really confident about doing full updates after rooting. Will these full updates also replace the kernel?
palendrome87 and NAS420 could you guys report back with any success or errors you have flashing full updates?
Where can one download full updates for Honor 8?
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Seeing as how the full update package was ~1.65GB in size, I think its ok to assume that it replaces everything with the stock Honor 8 image. So yes it will replace the kernel too.
For downloading full updates, the only way I got mine was an OTA directly from the phone itself. Look at my previous comments to see how I got this update. If for some reason you cant update, check if your model is ready for an update. If it is and you cant update, try to flash back to a stock image. You should be able to find one on this site or anywhere else.
Flash stock recovery will lock boot loader ?
Nas42O said:
Flash stock recovery will lock boot loader ?
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No, the only way to lock the bootloader is to manually lock it yourself using a similar operation to unlocking it.
Rakeen70210 said:
No, the only way to lock the bootloader is to manually lock it yourself using a similar operation to unlocking it.
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I thought the same thing, but after taking the full OTA update my bootloader was locked again. If you want to update I would suggest first making a full backup to the external SD card in TWRP.
Then , its better to download à full update ( update.zip) ,copy to root of the phone , reboot in twrp and flash it ? Anyone already did it ?
Hello,
I have a Mate9 phone. Installed TWRP and rooted. Today I found that there is an update. System downloads the update and restarts into the recovery mode, but update not recognized, and I don't know the location. of the update to manually install. After rebooting phone downloads again the whole update.
How can I install this update?
Thanks in advance.
SonOfTheRain said:
Hello,
I have a Mate9 phone. Installed TWRP and rooted. Today I found that there is an update. System downloads the update and restarts into the recovery mode, but update not recognized, and I don't know the location. of the update to manually install. After rebooting phone downloads again the whole update.
How can I install this update?
Thanks in advance.
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Flash stock recovery then try updating
backb0ne5p1d0r said:
Flash stock recovery then try updating
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I did so. It went to stock recovery, later said "software failed to install. Reboot your phone" etc. Rebooted, now there is no update seeen, but my camera still has max 6x zoom.
Any thoughts?
Hi,
I have a L09 B381 stock firmware installed, twrp, rooted with magisk installed. I would like to update to latest stock available, B389. HiSuite inform me about the update, but not my phone system.
Is there an easy way to update, or will I have to factory reset, update, root again, and reinstall every apps?
Alternativly, do you have a up to date custom rom to recommend?
Thanks
If you would like to update, I recommend you to go back full stock and update through dload (if updater don't work)
About custom ROMs, any ROM is stable and good.
bro just flash the firmware available in firmware finder via twrp, B398sp01 is the latest
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bro just flash the firmware available in firmware finder via twrp, B398sp01 is the latest
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Ok, so, I install the latest, downloaded with firmware finder, and flash it with TWRP. Will I have to reinstall all my apps? To root again?
Thanks
Don't install experimental stock rom versions.
You can update to B389 via FF with a number of options.
Whether through the proxy install or via TWRP ( with unlocked bootloader ofc) you should find guides for that in their respective threads.
As for custom roms they all randomly reboot on high accuracy gps and battery life is generally somewhat worse than on stock.
About 3-4h SoT for me but obviously that depends on your usage
Edit: You should be able to update to 389 without factory reset though, right?
Might be wrong but maybe just flash the smaller ota file or update via proxy?
Should be in the FF thread though
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so,
I saved my stuff
flash stock firmware update with twrp, didn't worked well, only made stock recovery back, but did not update at all, so
I made a factory reset
No OTA update on my phone, only with Hisuite on my pc
Normal stock update with hisuite, really long...
finally updated to B389
TWRP 3.1.1 (openkirin honor 8 version) automatic adb install with Huawei_Multi-Tool_by_Team_MT_v7 help
flashed magisk (github.com/stangri/MagiskFiles) with twrp
reinstalling manually all my apps
seems to work well
fredfred41 said:
so,
I saved my stuff
flash stock firmware update with twrp, didn't worked well, only made stock recovery back, but did not update at all, so
I made a factory reset
No OTA update on my phone, only with Hisuite on my pc
Normal stock update with hisuite, really long...
finally updated to B389
TWRP 3.1.1 (openkirin honor 8 version) automatic adb install with Huawei_Multi-Tool_by_Team_MT_v7 help
flashed magisk (github.com/stangri/MagiskFiles) with twrp
reinstalling manually all my apps
seems to work well
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That's great, although it's frustrating to re-install apps manually.
Enjoy
PalakMi said:
That's great, although it's frustrating to re-install apps manually.
Enjoy
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I agree, but it's a radical way to force me to declutter my messy phone...
fredfred41 said:
I agree, but it's a radical way to force me to declutter my messy phone...
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I'm used to it
venugopalu007 said:
bro just flash the firmware available in firmware finder via twrp, B398sp01 is the latest
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Mm rollback is the best choice
fredfred41 said:
so,
I saved my stuff
flash stock firmware update with twrp, didn't worked well, only made stock recovery back, but did not update at all, so
I made a factory reset
No OTA update on my phone, only with Hisuite on my pc
Normal stock update with hisuite, really long...
finally updated to B389
TWRP 3.1.1 (openkirin honor 8 version) automatic adb install with Huawei_Multi-Tool_by_Team_MT_v7 help
flashed magisk (github.com/stangri/MagiskFiles) with twrp
reinstalling manually all my apps
seems to work well
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@gopinaidu he did it already
I have the original Android 8.0 system and software version 2.33.401.19. Two days ago, my HTC announced that there is a new update to android 9.0. It downloads it and tries to install it. After reboot, TWRP starts and I choose to restart the system. Nothing is updated, and after a while I see a message that the update file is damaged.
A few weeks ago I unlocked the bootloader, ripped the phone and installed TWRP and MagiskManager. I suspect that the unlocked bootloader causes these problems. What should I do to install this update?
Szturwal said:
I have the original Android 8.0 system and software version 2.33.401.19. Two days ago, my HTC announced that there is a new update to android 9.0. It downloads it and tries to install it. After reboot, TWRP starts and I choose to restart the system. Nothing is updated, and after a while I see a message that the update file is damaged.
A few weeks ago I unlocked the bootloader, ripped the phone and installed TWRP and MagiskManager. I suspect that the unlocked bootloader causes these problems. What should I do to install this update?
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not the unlocked boot loader, it's because you have twrp installed. you need stock recovery(and what ever you do don't relock your bootloader)you can get back to stock by flashing the oreo ruu, then you'll recieve the ota and it will install.you need the ruu for your phone.that's it.
this will wipe your internal, so if you have something on there you want to keep, back it up to your pc, then you can restore, also, you'll need to reinstall twrp and magisk after you install the ota.
Thanks for answer. I'm going to do this ....
Hi,
Is there a way I can just flash the stock recovery and try to OTA? Really don't want to backup 80GB and restore back.
Hello! As there isn't a forum for the Poco M5 yet, I'm posting it here. I received MIUI 14 via OTA, I downloaded it, it was installed and the phone asked to reboot. After it rebooted, I got a message saying that it was not possible to update and that I need to download and try again. I've tried 4 times (via OTA) and the same thing always happens, after rebooting it doesn't install the update. What can I do? Thanks for your help!
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Hello! As there isn't a forum for the Poco M5 yet, I'm posting it here. I received MIUI 14 via OTA, I downloaded it, it was installed and the phone asked to reboot. After it rebooted, I got a message saying that it was not possible to update and that I need to download and try again. I've tried 4 times (via OTA) and the same thing always happens, after rebooting it doesn't install the update. What can I do? Thanks for your help!
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Download the recovery ROM and update it through recovery mode:
Xiaomi Recovery Mode: Full Guide for Mi, Redmi, POCO
What is Recovery Mode and Recovery ROM. What's the difference between it and OTA. How to enter recovery mode and make a Hard Reset.
miuirom.org
Yes, I know about that solution but I really want to understand why this is happening and I would prefer to update via OTA instead oof forcing the update via recovery
pl1992aw said:
Download the recovery ROM and update it through recovery mode:
Xiaomi Recovery Mode: Full Guide for Mi, Redmi, POCO
What is Recovery Mode and Recovery ROM. What's the difference between it and OTA. How to enter recovery mode and make a Hard Reset.
miuirom.org
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Danylyca said:
Yes, I know about that solution but I really want to understand why this is happening and I would prefer to update via OTA instead oof forcing the update via recovery
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From what I found, MIUI 14 on Poco M5 is a major Android version-changing update, from Android 12 to 13. There is no OTA update found on the internet, only Recovery and Fastboot.
It would be either a bug of Xiaomi server that gives you an update announcement with OTA, or it had detected a wrong phone version and pushed a wrong device OTA that does not fit, so it won't flash. Or other reasons.
Try force stop the updater, clean the updater data and cache. Then check the update and see if it gives you a correct update.
This update file would be quite large, a few GB.
Recommend to do back of your data and apps, so in case anything happened, you might need factory reset or data wipe.
Since this is a major update, incompatibility is to be expected.