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It looks like my TC is using HSDPA network (about 100k/hour) even during the time I am connected via wifi. Is that a normal behaviour, or can I force it to automatically disconnect HSDPA while using wifi?
It depends on how you setup your routing.
If you have your wifi network set as your "work / business" network and hsdpa as your internet access. It'll ofcourse route all trafic over hsdpa.
Check your wifi connection and set the appropriate network type. This setting is done for every access point. It's not a global wifi setting afaik.
The wifi connection is setup as internet, so that is not the problem.
What I find is that both wifi and 3g are active. I can turn off 3g by turning off data connection in the comm manager, leaving me with the sole wifi connection (and internet access of course). However, as soon as the TC goes to sleep it will come back with both 3g and wifi. What I found also is that it is quicker to initialise the HSDPA connection than to wifi one.
Is there a way to force it to check it for wifi connection first, and then only connect to HSDPA if no wifi is available?
Sorry, that I don't know.
And I can't be bothered by it here in NL. As we've got flatrate utms/hsdpa here with a number of providers.
At home I only turn on Wifi if the umts/hsdpa connection is instable.
Sorry if this is obvious and/or been asked before, but when I am in range of my home wireless LAN does the phone (a TP2) automatically use the free LANor does it have to be manually told to do so each time I use the internet etc ?
My old N95 used to auto switch to contract inet when there were no WiFi signals and wonder if WM6.1 does the same.
Thanks.
Here's a basic question about the HTC Fuze. If I'm using the Edge network and I turn on wifi, thereby getting a faster connection, do Fuze applications default to the faster connection or do I somehow have to turn off the edge/3G connection specifically. I know I should be able to tell...
I usually have both wifi and edge/3g off. When I need data I turn on whatever i need. You do that thru the communication manager.
I think the real question is with both the Edge/3G on and Wifi connected, where will the data transfer? Through the cell network or the WiFi network?
the icons on the top bar of my device display clear which connection is active
with a data session
when one is active it's the only one being used to access data from the internet
It's possible to have both OTA and wifi active, which is what the OP is driving at. IME a program will find and use the faster connection at startup, but if the program is running on OTA and you connect wifi, a lot of programs won't switch to the faster connection. Again, that's just my anecdotal experience - it's hard to tell which connection is being used in real time.
if i have bouth data and wifi turned on and i am connected to a wifi spot...do i need to turn off the data conection first before it will stop sucking my topup?
shouldnt the device make sure it uses wifi if wireless network is available?
No, you don't need to.
When you connect to a wi-fi connection, the 3G data will automatically switch off (logo on status bar will go away) and it will return when you switch wi-fi off.
funstuffalex said:
if i have bouth data and wifi turned on and i am connected to a wifi spot...do i need to turn off the data conection first before it will stop sucking my topup?
shouldnt the device make sure it uses wifi if wireless network is available?
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what?
The phone will prioritize the WiFi connection over the 3G connection unless the WiFi is turned off, it's signal drops out(resulting in a disconnects), or you have the default still set for WiFi to turn off when the screen is off.
Am I right in thinking that although the 3g connection will kick in when the wifi signal is lost the phone will still continue looking for a wifi signal and therefore impact on the battery?
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Am I right in thinking that although the 3g connection will kick in when the wifi signal is lost the phone will still continue looking for a wifi signal and therefore impact on the battery?
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Once the WiFi signal it's connected to is lost, it will switch the data 3G connection back on. Once you're out of range of remembered WiFi networks, it does scan for new/known WiFi signals to automatically connect to(only in the case of known signals, it will not try to connect to unknown networks).
As far as impact on battery, I don't think it's much. Only one time has WiFi ever creeped up on my battery use meter and that was on a particularly light day. I still finished my work day at little over 70% battery. There's an app on the market called WiFi Toggle which can help you automatically manage the phones WiFi chip. For instance, one setting will let it turn the WiFi on for a second, scan for known networks and connect if it finds them. If it doesn't, it turns it back off.
That's as I thought, thanks for the confirmation. I'd really like something to make the android phones act like the nokias in this respect - only turn on a data connection when needed (ie when the browser is fired up) and also prioritise the connections such that if a pre programmed known wifi network is available it will connect to that but if not switch to 3g data. There is no scanning for wifi networks all the time.
Nice to know it doesn't seem to impact on the battery though and yes before anyone mentions it I am aware android devices are designed to be always connected
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That's as I thought, thanks for the confirmation. I'd really like something to make the android phones act like the nokias in this respect - only turn on a data connection when needed (ie when the browser is fired up) and also prioritise the connections such that if a pre programmed known wifi network is available it will connect to that but if not switch to 3g data. There is no scanning for wifi networks all the time.
Nice to know it doesn't seem to impact on the battery though and yes before anyone mentions it I am aware android devices are designed to be always connected
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I've been saying this for a while too. I came from Nokia symbian phones where they initiated the data session only when needed, like opening the browser etc. Android does not do this, instead it keeps a data session on all the time. Anytime you see that 3g symbol on an android phone means its data session is open. This is why android gets such poor battery life across all models and manufacturers.
Take one day as a test and simulate your symbian use by turning off mobile data, and your battery life will sky rocket on your nexus. So really It's just a trade off to make knowing you're always connected vs on others like symbian you need to manually do something to open the connection.
Oh and WiFi gets so much better battery life over 3g on android.
I have Nexus 5 for over a week and waiting for case and screen protector. I left the plastic piece stay on the phone until the day before yesterday. I love the feeling of touch screen without any film or protector on it. I am learning this device.
I have router in my office powered but not working anymore, therefore there is wifi always on but not working anymore. Everyday in the morning, when I am in my office, the phone will detect that wifi auto, of course there is no signal. My mobile data is on all hte time. I have to turnoff wifi from the phone, otherwise I can not, for example, surf internet and check email. In the other words, no internet connection even mobile data is on.
So my question is: why the phone can not pick up mobile data automatically even there is a wifi? I was scared when i first had this problem because I thought my phone is not working. Is there any setting I can try to let the phone pickup signal from either wifi or mobile data automatically?
I'm interested also. Nexus 5 has a difficult time negotiating a signal when the signal is weak. At home, I get a higher powered signal on 2G so I keep it there. Today I noticed "no signal" and emergency calls message most of the day. (hubby's iPhone 4s is on the same service and he's getting the signal). I turned off Wi-Fi (which works perfectly, btw ) and phone signal connected. Treated it several times. Sounds like a hardware defect.
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I have router in my office powered but not working anymore, therefore there is wifi always on but not working anymore. Everyday in the morning, when I am in my office, the phone will detect that wifi auto, of course there is no signal. My mobile data is on all hte time. I have to turnoff wifi from the phone, otherwise I can not, for example, surf internet and check email. In the other words, no internet connection even mobile data is on.
So my question is: why the phone can not pick up mobile data automatically even there is a wifi? I was scared when i first had this problem because I thought my phone is not working. Is there any setting I can try to let the phone pickup signal from either wifi or mobile data automatically?
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Your wording makes the question a little confusing, but I think you are saying your office router is turned on and available for WiFi connections, but has no internet connection itself to pass through to your phone.
Your phone connects to that WiFi for data, but can't reach the Net through the router. Meanwhile, you could get data through the phone data plan, but that does not work unless you turn off WiFi.
This normal. The phone is designed to use WiFi for data if a connection is available that you have authorized the phone to make. It won't use the phone data plan if connected to the WiFi, as you see. It cannot tell that the WiFi router is not connected to the Net.
I suggest you go into WiFi settings, click on the "ghostly" WiFi entry and tell the phone to forget that connection. From then on, the phone won't connect to that router and will use phone data plan.
What you would prefer would be for the phone to use its data plan as a fallback option, in case it gets hooked up to a WiFi network with no internet access, like at your work. Would be nice as an option, but not the way things work currently.
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So my question is: why the phone can not pick up mobile data automatically even there is a wifi?
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To prevent overage for users that may have limited data plan, the device will always try to use WiFi when enabled. If it can't connect to a WiFi network, it will look for the mobile data if enabled.
wolfca said:
Is there any setting I can try to let the phone pickup signal from either wifi or mobile data automatically?
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In your case, since WiFi is "available", there is no setting on the stock ROM that will tell the device to connect to mobile data instead. Think about it this way - your phone is connected to the LAN using the WiFi network. It can reach the gateway, and has a valid IP. It doesn't care about whether it has WAN connectivity or not. So, it assumes that you are connected, and have connectivity.
You could look for apps on the play store that will actually check for WAN connectivity and if not available, disable WiFi (so that mobile data is used instead)
But, the part that I don't understand is this: If you don't have WiFi available, why do you even enable it? Turn WiFi off (disable wifi scanning in advanced settings of WiFi as well), and let mobile data take over instead. Or do you need WiFi elsewhere (say, at home)? If so, there are apps like Tasker that will let you set up profiles to enable WiFi when you are at home, and disable it when you are at office or other locations.
Thanks all for your very helpful reply. Sorry for my poor written English.
My office router does not function properly and I am to lazy to power it off, so my phone still can detect it but of course there no internet access from the router.
I now know I just need turn off wifi from phone and the phone will pickup mobile data auto.