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I have the app android booster to monitor battery use. When I go to applications everything is at 1% and 2% but the android process "security storage" is consuming 98% battery? Does anyone know what this is? Is there a way to minimize it or can I freeze it with Titanium Backup?
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I wish I knew as it's killing my battery also, I'm thinking I'll have to reflash or even odin back to stock before I'll get rd of the battery drain caused by secure storage, I found out it's com.android.providers.security that started secure storage but not much else
I see nobody is addressing this issue, or even explaining it. Too bad, as I'm having the same issue. The annoying part is, no matter what kernel I run, the same thing happens: The phone will sit sedately idle until I want to use it, then the minute I try to do something "Security Storage" starts running and the phone becomes non-responsive for 30 seconds to a minute or two while that stupid app is running.
Why can't this app do its maintenance while the phone is idle, rather than the minute the user wants to do something, or be forced into "nice" mode (don't know if Android has such a setting, but it's based on linux and linux does have such a setting) so that it's only allowed to hog the CPU when the phone is idling.
change build prop ro.securestorage to false
ElwOOd_CbGp said:
change build prop ro.securestorage to false
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I just registered to say THANK YOU to this man. :good:
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I just registered to say THANK YOU to this man. :good:
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I've noticed a lot of system resources get wasted even after removing the knox apps and enterprise and container agent stuff that comes on samsung phones. I mean, I guess its good as an option to have if you have use for it. Problem is tho, for ppl like me, its also built into the system in order to make those implementations effective and when you install a custom ROM and or kernel it causes errors. I think thats why some people dont like touchwiz ROMs and think theyre laggy. When the kernel and system are not synced anymore, crap goes on in the background that is just a waste. I still dont know much really, but I spent some time trying to fugure out how to disable some loggers and errors that were going on and were pissing me off. Here is a link to a post I ran across that helped shed some light on some stuff. Be careful tho, and if you don't know what your doing, spend some time to learn about what all that stuff does, because it's system stuff and you could find yourself in a bootloop or with an expensive azz brick http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2599266
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interestingly using icyfusion rom and terrasilent kernel, I cannot find this line in my build.prop. anyone else not seeing it there? secure storage is eating up at least 20% constantly of battery/cpu accord to elixir2. My battery drain continues to plague the device and I can only get about 1-2 hours of light use out of it while it continues to drain when screen is off. All I want to do is use it to listen to some tunes and I'm regretting rooting the device now. Refreshing to stock, wiping everything...formatting etc. has no effect. Has anyone solved this problem (presumably related to secure storage?) with another method?
(yp-g1 us version, currently on GB 2.3.5 stock, rooted with terrasilent kernel).
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interestingly using icyfusion rom and terrasilent kernel, I cannot find this line in my build.prop..... currently on GB 2.3.5 stock, rooted with terrasilent kernel).
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have you tried any current builds?
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have you tried any current builds?
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I tried CM11 which worked fine for a week or so and then all of the sudden the battery drain problem appeared. I didn't check the build.prop when on that because I decided to reflash to stock and start from scratch trying different roms/kernels. I can't shake the battery drain now no matter what I do - factory reset full wipe, you name it. I guess I could try installing cm11 again and see if it is in the build.prop then?? I just don't know how to proceed at this point.
My suggestion would be to go into developer options and take a look at process stats to see if there are any rogue processes running that you don't need. You can also download and install BetterBatteryStats app from here on XDA or purchase the paid version from the play store so that you can specifically pinpoint what is causing your device problems. Also, older devices often need batteries replaced because they wear out. I don't think the secure storage bug affects AOSP based ROMs since it is related to Samsung's Knox. Another tip would be to use a build prop editor app that has a search function to make finding things easier.
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My suggestion would be to go into developer options and take a look at process stats to see if there are any rogue processes running that you don't need. You can also download and install BetterBatteryStats app from here on XDA or purchase the paid version from the play store so that you can specifically pinpoint what is causing your device problems. Also, older devices often need batteries replaced because they wear out. I don't think the secure storage bug affects AOSP based ROMs since it is related to Samsung's Knox. Another tip would be to use a build prop editor app that has a search function to make finding things easier.
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thanks for the suggestions, but it's all similar to what I've already tried. I did use Elixir2 and another battery status app to monitor things, and I have also gone through running process and disabled everything that I don't need. I did order a new battery just to check, but I don't think that's the problem. The top part of the case (where the CPU is running I presume, not the battery) is getting very hot, so there is some problem with a program or service overheating the CPU which in turn drains the battery. I just charged to full today and turned the screen off so that the device will sleep. 2 hours later, it is dead. I checked battery stats in settings and there is no indication that the device wakes while screen is off...I'm just totally at a loss. It's almost like it's a hardware issue maybe caused by a kernel or something like that, rather than an app or service. I just have no idea. Someone in another forum advised me to flash to stock and run a logcat app and post results..so I guess I'll do that. I'm worried though, because I was googling prices for ipod touches earlier today....I don't want to go back to the dark side...but I just want a device that works and I can listen to music for more than 30 minutes too.
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thanks for the suggestions, but it's all similar to what I've already tried. I did use Elixir2 and another battery status app to monitor things, and I have also gone through running process and disabled everything that I don't need. I did order a new battery just to check, but I don't think that's the problem. The top part of the case (where the CPU is running I presume, not the battery) is getting very hot, so there is some problem with a program or service overheating the CPU which in turn drains the battery. I just charged to full today and turned the screen off so that the device will sleep. 2 hours later, it is dead. I checked battery stats in settings and there is no indication that the device wakes while screen is off...I'm just totally at a loss. It's almost like it's a hardware issue maybe caused by a kernel or something like that, rather than an app or service. I just have no idea. Someone in another forum advised me to flash to stock and run a logcat app and post results..so I guess I'll do that. I'm worried though, because I was googling prices for ipod touches earlier today....I don't want to go back to the dark side...but I just want a device that works and I can listen to music for more than 30 minutes too.
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turn gps off
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thanks, but that was one of the first things I turned off. I only want to use the device for music listening and quick browsing/email. I shut off wifi when not using and leave it in airplane mode as well....definitely something internally wrong with the device somewhere that goes beyong changing the usual battery draining settings. Still have the logcat running and the device is making very strange noises I've never heard before...popping, screeching scratchy sounds....very strange...things just seem to be getting worse and I'm worried I'm quickly heading to an expensive paper weight situation... Battery continues to drain at 20% or more/hour with screen off. I think after this if no progress is made,...I may try to unroot the device, but I don't know if that will solve the problem and will undo the damage already done.
Hello All,
I have (2) N5's (one white, one black). I've noticed that battery life on the black one is extremely bad. I'm almost always near a charger, so it was quite a shock when I noticed the black one down to 37% by noon. The next day I swapped phones and never saw the charge on the white one drop below 97%. I wiped both phones and configured each identically and was able to duplicate very similar results over the next few days. This morning I decided to see what happened when I did not connect to a charger. My use has been almost nothing (5 mins of screen time, 3 hrs off battery), yet my phone is already at 81%. I notice "Android OS" is using approx 50% of the battery. I do have a few apps that run in the background and I also leave GPS, BT, mobile and wifi on all of the time, however this is no different than how I used the white one or any previous phones. I suspect this is a hardware problem, however I would like to try to pinpoint the cause to satisfy my own curiosity. Can anyone recommend specific apps/tools that would provide more detailed information about what is going on with the different subsystems (battery, cpu, radios, storage, etc) that could help me find the problem? Thank you.
Do some searching and reading.
It's your apps. Not a hardware problem.
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Do a complete factory restore on both, with full charge, Then don't touch them at all, the post results
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You have a wakelock obviously. My Android OS does the same thing, but it doesnt destroy the battery that bad. My wakelock is wlan_rx_wake, and its very annoying to get rid of. Still havent found a way to kill it yet.
I've noticed if you turn the location settings to "Device only" the Nexus 5 sips battery, while the screen is off, because it isn't always waking itself 1,000+ times a day to report your location.
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Pretty sure that's what I'm doing?
It's your apps. Not a hardware problem.
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I initially thought the same thing; however, I did not install any apps after wiping the phone, yet the problem remains. Also, I do not have this problem on my other N5 with all of my normal apps installed and configured for normal use.
Do a complete factory restore on both, with full charge, Then don't touch them at all, the post results
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I did this... mostly. After wiping both phones (by reflashing the factory image) I did charge both to 100% before using them. Unfortunately, I am on-call 24/7 and have to use one phone at all times. I did keep usage as identical as possible. I did this by not installing any apps and charging at the same times for the same amount of time. Also, my commute and time at work/home/elsewhere was almost identical. Of course there are some things that are out of my control (call, sms, emails, etc received), however it was certainly not enough to account for the difference I am seeing. If I take the phones off the charger at 7A, and use as little as possible, the white one will be >90% where the black one with be <40% by noon.
You have a wakelock obviously. My Android OS does the same thing, but it doesnt destroy the battery that bad. My wakelock is wlan_rx_wake, and its very annoying to get rid of. Still havent found a way to kill it yet.
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This very well may be. How did you find out that your wakelock is wlan_rx_wake? This is what I'm really seeking - app recommendations or other ways to acquire this in-depth information. I've done some googling, but many of the apps that I've seen recommended do not work with KitKat. What I find most odd is how the white N5 with a 100% identical configuration does not have this problem.
I've noticed if you turn the location settings to "Device only" the Nexus 5 sips battery, while the screen is off, because it isn't always waking itself 1,000+ times a day to report your location.
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Thank you. I suspect this would make a difference, however I am basing my expected usage on what I get with the white N5 with the same configuration. I did not change any settings on either and would like to see them similar with the same configuration. Once the issue is worked out, I will definitely take your advice and change this setting to increase my battery life.
Thank you all.
Did you download the firmware from Google then flash it in bootloader? Also you need to flash both phones to stock, Then not install any apps or settings on both so there both the same. That's a fair test.
If you can't do this, Then this thread is pointless as far as I'm concerned.
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Did you download the firmware from Google then flash it in bootloader? Also you need to flash both phones to stock, Then not install any apps or settings on both so there both the same. That's a fair test.
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Yes, I downloaded and flashed the stock image from Google. I run stock on all of my Nexus devices. I did not install any apps, however I had to setup E-Mail and modify my APN settings.
If you can't do this, Then this thread is pointless as far as I'm concerned.
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Why the attitude? You're clearly a helpful person, based on the time you spend helping others on here. If you're having a bad day or dealing with some personal issues, I sincerely hope things get better for you. If you really have a problem with my test constraints, then please move along. As a UNIX Administrator for the past 15 years, and a component-level electronics tech for 5 years before that, I can tell you from experience that the real world simply does not always provide for ideal conditions. While I agree that a 100% identical setup is preferred as a control, it's simply not an option. Even with my constraints, there is no way the number of emails and texts that I sent/received on a given day are the cause here. All that said, the point of this thread was to gain insight into how I can find more detailed information about what is going on with the various subsystems - either app recommendations or other tools. Much of the information I've found has been high-level - Settings > Battery or BetterBatteryStats (which doesn't work with KitKat AFAIK).
Thank you.
Without the 100% identical test, it's a guessing game.
I don't have an attitude, if I did, I would have told you my credentials, but I didn't think that had anything to do with this thread...
I'm not being a smart-ass buddy, and I do like to help on here as much as possible or as much as my knowledge can allow me.
Better battery stats, is for sure your best bet, that app is a must have for trouble shooting. I'm sure within a few days, there will be a update.
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Well, this is not why I bought this phone for. SOT is only 25 minutes, and it is worse than my Xperia Z Ultra.
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Well, this is not why I bought this phone for. SOT is only 25 minutes, and it is worse than my Xperia Z Ultra.
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I dont get it.....???????
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caseyk621 said:
i dont get it.....???????
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battery sucks for some reasons, solutions please?
zllovesuki said:
battery sucks for some reasons, solutions please?
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Assuming you started from %100?
I found after some app updates that my play services cache was rather high and I had some unnusual battery drain. So I went to manage apps and cleared the cache on play services. Seemed to correct itself after that.
If you just got it then cycle it a couple times, it gets better after a week or so.
If you've had it awhile then a rogue app is causing it. BetterBatteryStats or gsam from play store will do better at helping figure it out.
5hrs 36mins SOT
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KitKat and Jelly Bean have both had battery drains related to location services. I'm keeping location turned off until the next release. I'm not happy about it, but it does seem to make a difference.
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KitKat and Jelly Bean have both had battery drains related to location services. I'm keeping location turned off until the next release. I'm not happy about it, but it does seem to make a difference.
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I don't have an issue with location services unless I have google now enabled then it is a battery hog.
I had a massive battery drain because of WiFi even when off. Go to WiFi settings advanced turn off scanning always on.
you need to use better battery stats. just research xda for it. and follow the posts directions. you will find out what exactly is eating your battery.
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Well, this is not why I bought this phone for. SOT is only 25 minutes, and it is worse than my Xperia Z Ultra.
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Battery drain has been a relatively common experience after the KitKat 4.4 update. I have a Droid Mini, not a Maxx, but I've been seeing a lot of reports for all three of last years Droid line (Mini, Ultra and Maxx). Troubleshooting battery life is typically done through looking at events called wakelocks. Wakelocks are created by apps on your phone to prevent it from going into "deep sleep"--basically, they allow the CPU to stay on when the screen on your phone seems off. BetterBatteryStats or WakelockDetector are two apps that can be used to gain a little more insight into what wakelocks you are experiencing and what might be causing them.
However, wakelocks are broken down into two categories--those run by the Android kernel itself (kernal wakelocks) and those created by apps running in the background (partial wakelocks). Unfortunately, the 4.4 update made it impossible to view the partial wakelocks directly without root permissions. If you did as I did and naively updated to 4.4 without root, you won't be able to root your phone (as of now) to see the partial wakelocks. Instead, the wakelocks will show up under the kernal wakelocks that can be viewed--but instead of an app by app breakdown, they are visible only in the aggregate, so figuring out which app in particular is causing your problem can be a real trick.
One way to do so is to look at the apps running in the background of under the "Apps">"Running" in settings and see which apps you have actually been using and are supposed to appear and which apps are not. Then select the apps that you didn't start and force close them in sequence, checking Wakelock Detector or BetterBatteryStats after each to see if they have fixed your issue at all. The best way IMHO to see if they had an immediate effect is to look for increases in the "Deep Sleep" stat--if the app had been keeping your phone awake, and you force closed it, the Deep Sleep time should go up after you shut off your phone.
All that being said, troubleshooting is a real *****. There is an abundance of non-app-related issues with 4.4, or so it would appear. I have seen posts attributing fixes to turning location services to "GPS only". Others recommend clearing the Google Play Services cache in the Apps menu, clearing the cache in phone more generally, and using every other more conventional battery conservation trick in the book. Still others reported the only fix as a factor reset. These things had little to no benefit to me--although I never had to resort to a factory reset since I found a fix this morning. For me, all it took was going into Wifi>Advanced>Wi-Fi frequency band and changing from "Auto" to the 2.4GHz setting. This seems to have nailed the persistent wakelock issue that had been showing up as "Android OS" under the stock battery life in the settings, which showed up as a kernel wakelock under "suspend_backoff" in BetterBatteryStats. Hope that something out of all of this can help you--I'm immensely frustrated with how poorly my phone performed for the last month after the KitKat upgrade. It appears, however, that the fix I just found has restored my battery life from the 3-6 hours I have been getting lately to 12-14 hours. I'll update in a couple days after I see how things go. Best of luck!
Update, after a real short period of time:
Somehow doing this appears to have broken my Touchless Control. I can't get Google to recognize the "Ok, Google Now" bit, which it had done in the past nearly flawlessly, nor will Google Search transcribe voice searches, period. Going into the Settings>Touchless Control shows Touchless Control to be unchecked, but tapping the button to enable Touchless Control doesn't do anything. The button dims slightly, as if the press is registered, but the box doesn't check and the Voice Search and continues not to work. Interestingly, putting the Wifi back on "Auto" as opposed to 2.4GHz doesn't seem to fix this; rebooting into Safe Mode makes it work fine though. I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling my Touchless Control app, but I'm hoping this isn't a persistent issue for me. Ugh. In any case, I'll take battery life over Touchless Control for the time being.
EDIT: Voice input doesn't work anywhere on my phone--I can't press the microphone button on the keyboard and speak, for example, to dictate a text message. Potentially this is unrelated to the battery life issue, but I'm going to do some more digging and see what I can find.
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Update, after a real short period of time:
Somehow doing this appears to have broken my Touchless Control. I can't get Google to recognize the "Ok, Google Now" bit, which it had done in the past nearly flawlessly, nor will Google Search transcribe voice searches, period. Going into the Settings>Touchless Control shows Touchless Control to be unchecked, but tapping the button to enable Touchless Control doesn't do anything. The button dims slightly, as if the press is registered, but the box doesn't check and the Voice Search and continues not to work. Interestingly, putting the Wifi back on "Auto" as opposed to 2.4GHz doesn't seem to fix this; rebooting into Safe Mode makes it work fine though. I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling my Touchless Control app, but I'm hoping this isn't a persistent issue for me. Ugh. In any case, I'll take battery life over Touchless Control for the time being.
EDIT: Voice input doesn't work anywhere on my phone--I can't press the microphone button on the keyboard and speak, for example, to dictate a text message. Potentially this is unrelated to the battery life issue, but I'm going to do some more digging and see what I can find.
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What do you have checked under settings, language and input?
Do you have any third party keyboards installed?
Have you done or considered doing a factory data reset?
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jfriend33 said:
What do you have checked under settings, language and input?
Do you have any third party keyboards installed?
Have you done or considered doing a factory data reset?
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No third party keyboards whatsoever. Up until now I had been really happy with Google's stock keyboard. Under Settings>Language and Input I have Google (English) checked, as well as Google Pinyin Input, and Google voice typing, which is set to English (US).
Been thinking about doing a factory data reset but would like to avoid it if possible because I've been horribly disorganized about curating my contacts across a variety of Google accounts--I know that if I had to, I have all my information backed up, but it'd be a big pain getting it sorted again afterward. I've heard others say that an FDR has fixed the battery all on its own. I don't know if I mentioned, but booting into safe mode restores the voice input functionality.
Got a Droid Mini now myself for a few days, it's at 4.4 and obviously unrooted and there apparently is no hope for the Chinese unlock nowadays either, sadly, so that means doing whatever possible to ensure the best battery life on mine as well. I hadn't considered forcing the 2.4 GHz Wi-Fi operation so I set it that way just now and then immediately attempted to use touchless control and it's working fine for mine with only that one change from Auto to 2.4 made.
I was using GSam Battery Monitor to get some idea of what's going on with this device but recently decided to just give the Snapdragon BatteryGuru a shot and see what happens (got another 1.5 days of monitoring before it does whatever it's supposed to do).
On complete idle it does lose about 1.2% per hour (with Wi-Fi off) but I might redo that test now with the 2.4 GHz manual setting and see if anything is changed.
It's not anywhere near the battery life of the Droid MAXX I had and sold, obviously, but so far it's doing ok. I ordered an Incipio Ghost 100 Qi-charging base a few days ago, hopefully it'll be here by the weekend so I can stop wearing and tearing the microUSB port.
Will see what happens...
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Got a Droid Mini now myself for a few days, it's at 4.4 and obviously unrooted and there apparently is no hope for the Chinese unlock nowadays either, sadly, so that means doing whatever possible to ensure the best battery life on mine as well. I hadn't considered forcing the 2.4 GHz Wi-Fi operation so I set it that way just now and then immediately attempted to use touchless control and it's working fine for mine with only that one change from Auto to 2.4 made.
I was using GSam Battery Monitor to get some idea of what's going on with this device but recently decided to just give the Snapdragon BatteryGuru a shot and see what happens (got another 1.5 days of monitoring before it does whatever it's supposed to do).
On complete idle it does lose about 1.2% per hour (with Wi-Fi off) but I might redo that test now with the 2.4 GHz manual setting and see if anything is changed.
It's not anywhere near the battery life of the Droid MAXX I had and sold, obviously, but so far it's doing ok. I ordered an Incipio Ghost 100 Qi-charging base a few days ago, hopefully it'll be here by the weekend so I can stop wearing and tearing the microUSB port.
Will see what happens...
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Glad to know that the Wi-Fi settings aren't the likely culprit of my ****ed voice input. I tried the Snapdragon BatteryGuru for a while--for me the effect was negligible over a period of about two weeks. What was the wakelock keeping your phone up?
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Glad to know that the Wi-Fi settings aren't the likely culprit of my ****ed voice input. I tried the Snapdragon BatteryGuru for a while--for me the effect was negligible over a period of about two weeks. What was the wakelock keeping your phone up?
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I have no idea, haven't bothered to look at the wakelocks presently. I got used to using TricksterMod to monitor everything but of course I can't do anything with it because of no root access.
Really wish a miracle would come along at some point, we could use a working root definitely.
Hell, we could use 4.4.2 AND a working root to be honest, hopefully whenever 4.4.2 comes along it'll fix a lot of crap in 4.4 that Motorola and Verizon just broke for whatever reason. Bleh.
Come on, Motorola, make it happen.
<and offer the option for us end users to purchase an unlock code direct from you, too...>
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I have no idea, haven't bothered to look at the wakelocks presently. I got used to using TricksterMod to monitor everything but of course I can't do anything with it because of no root access.
Really wish a miracle would come along at some point, we could use a working root definitely.
Hell, we could use 4.4.2 AND a working root to be honest, hopefully whenever 4.4.2 comes along it'll fix a lot of crap in 4.4 that Motorola and Verizon just broke for whatever reason. Bleh.
Come on, Motorola, make it happen.
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Yeah, I'm with you there. I'm hoping we get 4.4.2 by mid/end of the summer, and in the meantime sitting here kicking myself for not jumping on top of buying an unlock code while they were available. $40 would have been cheap compared to putting up with this broken ****. I've been hugely disappointed in Motorola for failing to address the bugs in 4.4 in any sort of official capacity for the Droid lineup. It's funny--I didn't really care about having root so long as my phone was working. But trying to fix everything that has gone wrong has gotten my just drooling for root. Hopefully we get it eventually, and I know that the next phone I buy will DEFINITELY have an unlocked bootloader. Ugh.
I swore I'd never purchase another Motorola product and I suppose technically I haven't meaning I will never directly buy one from Motorola or from a carrier with their products (not even Google) - I got this Droid Mini for a decent price from someone off craigslist after selling the Droid MAXX for a very nice profit indeed so, in the long run I got the Droid MAXX free of charge to begin with, made profit from that then bought the Mini which is basically the same device in a smaller package more or less and still no money has gone directly to Motorola (or Verizon for that matter since I use T-Mobile just fine).
Gave up on Motorola when they pooched all of us Atrix and Photon owners so to hell with Motorola for that fiasco. Now it seems like they're doing it again by being slow and stupid for whatever reason.
I cannot for the life of me understand why it takes these companies so damned long to release a fix or update for a device - consider that the Moto X, the Droid Ultra, the Droid MAXX, and the Droid Mini all have the same X8 custom chipset and are basically the same devices in almost every respect and yet it still just doesn't get done like it should.
It's pathetic but I'm ranting now... my intolerance for stupid people (and companies) is well known so, Motorola, I can see not much has changed and so neither will my opinion.
I like the Droid Mini, it's a nice device, works fine given the limitations (no root yet, no 4.4.2) and the rather meager 2000 mAh battery. I could sell this I suppose, get me another Atrix HD (and still be mostly locked down I guess) but then slap that RAZR MAXX battery in it and get near-Droid MAXX battery life once again.
Nah, I think I'll keep the Mini unless someone makes me another offer I can't refuse. I see them listed on craigslist for rather low prices - exactly why I got this one a few days ago - and I honestly think there are a lot of people that just don't realize this is basically a "Moto X Jr" model that does effectively the same things including Active Display and "OK Google Now" touchless control.
You'd think most consumers were stupid or something for not noticing just what a fine device this Mini actually is. </sarcasm>
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I was using GSam Battery Monitor to get some idea of what's going on with this device but recently decided to just give the Snapdragon BatteryGuru a shot and see what happens (got another 1.5 days of monitoring before it does whatever it's supposed to do).
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I tried that a week or so ago. I didn't let it control WiFi for me, but otherwise let it do its thing. (I also wouldn't let it turn off GMail syncing unless the phone was on - having GMail come to me close to push is one of the reasons I carry the thing with me.) It didn't make a damned bit of difference for me; it's off the phone now.
I've done the 2.4 GHz only thing. We'll see if it helps.
My ultra was doing the same thing. I back up my phone and factory reset it. For the first couple days I was killing the battery quickly from setting up my phone again and with in a week or so my battery life seemed to come back as it was in 4.2.
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In order not to upset anyone, here's a thread for discussion of the Oukitel U13 stock ROM versions and any other General comments or questions.
NOTE: Please stick discussing stock ROM versions only. Current latest version is V18. Find it on Needrom. Flashtools are there also.
U13 Camera distance focus bug has been resolved on stock V18.
I have flashed several stock roms and generally messed about with the U13, so I'll try to help answer any questions if I can .
Under the 'General Discussion' heading and, as mentioned on another thread, there is a problem with the U13 headphone jack port: Basically some headphones won't 'click' in and stay in the jack port.
Luckily my 'best' wired headphones do fit OK. Although my other two sets keep popping out of the port, even if pushed in firmly. Bear in mind you will not be able to use the U13 FM Radio if you can't get a pair of headphones to stay in.
Apparently, this is a known Oukitel hardware issue (you'd have thought after all these years of headphone jack ports they could get this right!). I suppose there are some compromises when one buys a bargain handset? This doesn't excuse shoddy design and poor Quality testing though.
I've got a pair of Bluetooth headphones on order, so this should resolve the problem for me.
A heads up.....
On the Oukitel U13 stock rom V18 you will notice high battery usage. This is mainly caused by the 'Wireless Update' app.
Oukitel don't provide wireless updates (at least in the UK), so what's this app for? Well it appears to be a container for the adups spyware software. This spyware is pretty common on Chinese handsets and it's function is to connect to a server in China somewhere and upload usage, personal and handset data/information to said server on a very regular basis.
Using GSAM Battery Monitor Pro, I found that the 'Wireless Update' app causes constant wake-locks and alarms, thus severely impacting battery life. You cannot uninstall the Wireless Update app without root. As I understand it there is no root for the U13 yet. You will read about using Debloater software to remove bloatware apps, unfortunately Debloater doesn't work after Android Sep 2016 Security Update.
So, how to deal with this? The only way I have found is to go into settings/apps, find the 'Wireless Update' app then Force Close and Disable it. However, be aware that the Wireless Update app will keep re-enabling itself (and presumably uploading data) on a soft or hard reboot. So you have to keep an eye on it. I also use the 'ForceDoze' app (requires adb command line work to enable fully) to put the U13 to sleep fully when not in use. This saves a lot of battery power and I am now getting 2 days medium use life from my U13 battery.
If anyone knows any workable methods of permanently disabling/getting rid of adups/Wireless Update app, please let us know.
Gyre8 said:
A heads up.....
On the Oukitel U13 stock rom V18 you will notice high battery usage. This is mainly caused by the 'Wireless Update' app.
Oukitel don't provide wireless updates (at least in the UK), so what's this app for? Well it appears to be a container for the adups spyware software. This spyware is pretty common on Chinese handsets and it's function is to connect to a server in China somewhere and upload usage, personal and handset data/information to said server on a very regular basis.
Using GSAM Battery Monitor Pro, I found that the 'Wireless Update' app causes constant wake-locks and alarms, thus severely impacting battery life. You cannot uninstall the Wireless Update app without root. As I understand it there is no root for the U13 yet. You will read about using Debloater software to remove bloatware apps, unfortunately Debloater doesn't work after Android Sep 2016 Security Update.
So, how to deal with this? The only way I have found is to go into settings/apps, find the 'Wireless Update' app then Force Close and Disable it. However, be aware that the Wireless Update app will keep re-enabling itself (and presumably uploading data) on a soft or hard reboot. So you have to keep an eye on it. I also use the 'ForceDoze' app (requires adb command line work to enable fully) to put the U13 to sleep fully when not in use. This saves a lot of battery power and I am now getting 2 days medium use life from my U13 battery.
If anyone knows any workable methods of permanently disabling/getting rid of adups/Wireless Update app, please let us know.
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If you root the phone and completely uninstall the Wireless Update app, will that fix the battery drainage problem?
timboi44 said:
If you root the phone and completely uninstall the Wireless Update app, will that fix the battery drainage problem?
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Well, it will certainly fix one major cause of battery drain. As well as improving security by removing a potential source of spyware. As I said above, with Wireless Update disabled, my U13 battery life improves quite a lot. The trouble is it keeps re-enabling itself.
Are you aware of a method of rooting the U13?
Gyre8 said:
Well, it will certainly fix one major cause of battery drain. As well as improving security by removing a potential source of spyware. As I said above, with Wireless Update disabled, my U13 battery life improves quite a lot. The trouble is it keeps re-enabling itself.
Are you aware of a method of rooting the U13?
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No I'm am not, sorry. I literally just received my u13 yesterday
Something new about rooting thi phone, just came tooday and is neccessary to root it to clean up all spyware and addaware garbage.
EDIT: Best root is to flash TWRP and over TWRP flash SuperSU. After it is posible to flash original recovery.
I have enabled 5Ghz and ac support in original latest ROM v18, firmware is compatible, nvram include params to enable, but antena is only 2.4 so very poor signal.
Have someone disassemly video or step by step instructions ? I would lite to try replace antena for dualband optimized one.
Hi Guys,
I have a issue with the touchscreen of my U13. touch stops working over night. I´ve tried do flash a custom ROM but still the same issue.......Touch is not working.
Does anyone know this kind of problem?
Jop, usualy digitizer is dead. In some cases only flex cable broken or in wrong position in board connector.
No software solution, you need disassembly device and repair.
Is there any guide how to disassembly?
That is what i am looking for too
The LCD and digitiser are sandwiched together can be removed running a spudger along the front edges to carefully lift it off.
Finding a spare screen is looking impossible at the moment. Seens like there are spares for every phone except the U13.
Has anyone found a way to fix the headphone jack?
Oukitel U13 Spare Parts
I've had a dead digitizer on my unit for over a month and have been searching for replacement parts over that period with absolutely no luck. It would be good to hear from anyone who knows for certain where parts for this model can be found or alternately, if parts for this model are interchangeable with any other model.
It was such a good performer while it was working and I'd hate having to throw it away because no spares are available.
Shorter jack
I managed to solve the jack problem. I have two earbuds, one good one and the other always jumped out. I measured and the one that pops about 1/2 mm shorter.
He managed to remove the plastic at the base, so both were good.
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I've had a dead digitizer on my unit for over a month and have been searching for replacement parts over that period with absolutely no luck. It would be good to hear from anyone who knows for certain where parts for this model can be found or alternately, if parts for this model are interchangeable with any other model.
It was such a good performer while it was working and I'd hate having to throw it away because no spares are available.
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Have you found a way to fix the digitizer?
...still no parts
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Have you found a way to fix the digitizer?
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Nothing yet but I've noticed that a few more people have posted the same issue to Youtube. Hopefully this means that with a greater incidence of screen/digitizer problems, we may see some U13 parts start to appear.
Fingers crossed. :fingers-crossed:
Display
Hi, anybody found some shop where to buy new display with digitizer? It looks quite impossible!!
Lakynko said:
Hi, anybody found some shop where to buy new display with digitizer? It looks quite impossible!!
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Yes it is impossible. Did you crack your screen or the touch stopped working?
So I've had a T-Mo S7 for about a year and a half now. It's incredibly slow/unresponsive and I've spent a really long time troubleshooting.
I've done full factory resets, and direct ODIN OS installs with data wipes. Whenever I do this, the phone starts out, with all current apps installed, extremely fast/responsive. I have a somewhat limited app library, and I haven't added anything since the phone slowed down noticeably.
About two months ago, the Samsung Device Maintenance app, which until then only reported battery draining, said "Some apps or processes are overloading the system (CPU)" and the app it reported was something like com.android/google.searchbar" which I assume is the google search bar widget. I thought, "awesome, the device app is actually doing something." I told it to kill the app and my phone sprung to life. My phone was super fast for a long time, but is now back to being super slow again. I searched "Apps" in device settings and can't find any apps/processes that sound anything like search bar. Also, how is there not a system resource monitor in system settings!? Clearly, an app is hogging resources, because I've experienced periods of responsiveness. Is there no direct way to figure this out without doing the safe mode process of elimination?
Can someone help shed some light or suggest further troubleshooting steps? Thanks in advance.
I got mine on black friday 2 years ago and I've been having the same issue. Of course my battery doesn't last very long being it's over 2 years old. I'm guessing it may have some.thing to do with the battery voltage being so weak after so long. I'm due for an upgrade obviously but I'd be fine using my S7 for another year if a battery replacement did the trick. I believe I was told in chat that I could go into the store and they'd only charge me $5 but I assume they'd have to send the phone out unless they just swap it out for a refurbished one. I've had no other problems with mine at all so not really the route I want to take.
Anyone else familiar with this process? Has anyone else had their battery replaced or phone swapped and notice if the fresher battery helps or is it just a symptom of it "can't" handle the newer OS properly? Any feedback would be appreciated. Hopefully it helps us both out. Didn't mean to hijack the thread!
tony yayo said:
I got mine on black friday 2 years ago and I've been having the same issue. Of course my battery doesn't last very long being it's over 2 years old. I'm guessing it may have some.thing to do with the battery voltage being so weak after so long. I'm due for an upgrade obviously but I'd be fine using my S7 for another year if a battery replacement did the trick. I believe I was told in chat that I could go into the store and they'd only charge me $5 but I assume they'd have to send the phone out unless they just swap it out for a refurbished one. I've had no other problems with mine at all so not really the route I want to take.
Anyone else familiar with this process? Has anyone else had their battery replaced or phone swapped and notice if the fresher battery helps or is it just a symptom of it "can't" handle the newer OS properly? Any feedback would be appreciated. Hopefully it helps us both out. Didn't mean to hijack the thread!
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So I promise it's not the battery because I had it factory replaced by Samsung. To answer your question, yeah you have to send it in. With the waterproofing they have to do it at a repair center. However, for me it was 100% worth it. I think I was without the phone for about 10 days. But having a brand new battery life was incredible.
Also, as I was working with the phone slow for a while, it immediately and dramatically became quick after device maintenance killed that process. But a few months later, I'm back to suuuuper slow.
The S7 is getting old. Old things slow down. It's planned obsolescence. I've gotten to the point of turning notifications off for all apps and only using badge numbers to tell me when to check something. I also use do not disturb a lot when gaming instead of game tools because game tools is another app but do not disturb is more of an internal process. As soon as my taxes come back I'm probably going to get a S8+