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location icon - does not show GPS lock

Hi,
I hadnt seen this mentioned elsehwhere (apologies if I have missed it). The new location icon in 4.4 seems to only appear if I choose 'high acuracy' or 'device only' in locatin settings It does not appear if I choose 'battery saving'. To me this makes it look like its an indication of GPS being active even though google have said it does not mean this. Can anyone confirm they agree with me?
My second point is that there is now no way to know from a status bar icon if GPS is locked on or not. Having the 4.3 GPS icon flashing when obtaining a lock and solid once locked on was much better. That way I know for sure that GPS is being used and I know for sure when its locked on.
This is required for mapping and navigation apps to know if your location is accurate.
With 4.4 you see a location icon but for all you know the GPS may NOT be locked and your locatoin could be using less accurate wifi/mobile location.
Its another example (like the data upload/download arrows) of google dumbing down the interface and making it less usable. And lets face it, most people understand thet GPS needs a lock, who drives along using a SatNav without waiting for it to lock on!!
Lets hope a CM ROM can give us back something useful.
Scott

No one else find this a problem?
Scott

Sorry, I don't have a solution.
I just wanted to mention that I'm having the same problem.
How am I supposed to know that I got an accurate GPS lock if the icon stays the same all the time?
I think google messed up on this part.

The location icon next to the time and such is a GPS icon as it only shows up when GPS is active. If you are doing WIFI or 3G location it doesn't show up and isn't active so if it's there then it's because GPS is being used.

shotta35 said:
The location icon next to the time and such is a GPS icon as it only shows up when GPS is active. If you are doing WIFI or 3G location it doesn't show up and isn't active so if it's there then it's because GPS is being used.
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Google documentation says the location icon means your location is being used and it is NOT an indication of just GPS (ie could be gps or wifi/mobile location) however that is clearly wrong as you say. It only seems to appear when GPS wants to be used.
My point is that the icon does seem to only appear when GPS is in use however it does NOT indicate if GPS is locked or not. That is the real problem. we now cannot see when we have a GPS lock.
Please see
http://code.google.com/p/android/is...ps&colspec=ID Type Status Owner Summary Stars
Scott

There're apps that will show you gps lock
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.eclipsim.gpsstatus2&hl=es

bloot said:
There're apps that will show you gps lock
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.eclipsim.gpsstatus2&hl=es
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Of course there are. But that's no use, we need a GPS locked icon in the status bar. An app is no use because as soon as I switch from the app to Google maps then I still can't see if GPS is locked.
At the moment each individual app would now have to implement some way of showing us in GPS is locked when we used to just rely on the status bar icon.

I would gather it wouldn't be to hard to port over the icon handling from JB. Edits to android.policy, framework-res and systemUI would be needed.
At first I cared about the topic, but the gps on the n5 smokes my previous devices. I obsessed over the gps for about a week after getting the n5. With gps status app I get 13of21 locked in 6 seconds or less all the time. First device I've had where I don't have to coax the gps into working with an app or some conf edit. Took me a couple weeks to learn about being able to long press location quick settings tile to toggle on/off.
good day.

With xposed and gravity mod the GPS lock/nolock icon can be seen when pulling down the tiles so that's pretty good.
I'll look out for an exposed mod that sticks the icon back in the status bar.
Annoying that Google removed it though.
I also don't understand why so much fuss was made by google and the reviewers about the kitkat location settings. They are just the same as JB but named differently, ie WiFi/mobile location is now named something like 'battery saving location'. The end result is still the same options, namely GPS only, WiFi/mobile only, or both GPS and WiFi/mobile.

scott_doyland said:
Of course there are. But that's no use, we need a GPS locked icon in the status bar. An app is no use because as soon as I switch from the app to Google maps then I still can't see if GPS is locked.
At the moment each individual app would now have to implement some way of showing us in GPS is locked when we used to just rely on the status bar icon.
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In fact you can, install the app I pointed and when opening Maps it will show you a gps lock notification.

bloot said:
In fact you can, install the app I pointed and when opening Maps it will show you a gps lock notification.
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Hi. I think we are both 50% right. A gps icon is displayed as you say, I wasn't aware of this, however it doesn't seem to alter between a locked/unlocked icon.
You can pull down the status bar to see if its locked though just as you can with the exposed gravity mod.

scott_doyland said:
Hi. I think we are both 50% right. A gps icon is displayed as you say, I wasn't aware of this, however it doesn't seem to alter between a locked/unlocked icon.
You can pull down the status bar to see if its locked though just as you can with the exposed gravity mod.
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Yes its kinda different but that's enough for me at least.

scott_doyland said:
Hi. I think we are both 50% right. A gps icon is displayed as you say, I wasn't aware of this, however it doesn't seem to alter between a locked/unlocked icon.
You can pull down the status bar to see if its locked though just as you can with the exposed gravity mod.
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Hi - I'm also annoyed by this - the best solution I have found so far is to use GPS monitor - it has a statusbar icon which tells you how many sats you are fixed to, and more importantly the icon is red when you don't have a lock and goes green when you do.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.illyrium.tools.gpsmonitor&hl=en

[SOLVED] WiFi doesn't turn OFF

Hi guys!
I have an XT1540, 2gb/16gb version (Retail US) on Marshmallow.
This is the situation: I'm not always at my house. So, I turn off WiFi when I don't use it. But, even though I turn off WiFi, it remains ON. This does not affect the battery duration. I also notice this when I toggle WiFi on using the tile under quick settings, it seems WiFi was always on because it shows available networks immediately.
Yes, I have turned off "Wi-Fi scanning" under Settings > Location > three dots > Scanning, so there is no reason why WiFi is always ON!
Does any of you have the same issue? I attached some screenies. :good:
Want to hear from you guys...
EDIT: I found the solution. Even though I disabled Always scanning on Settings > Location, Wi-Fi always was ON!
I used to go to *#*#4636#*#* > Wi-Fi information > Wi-Fi status and Supplicant state always said SCANNING.
Went to Developer options and scrolled down to Networking and turned ON "Always allow Wi-Fi Roam Scans". When you turn this on, it disallows the always scanning supplicant state. Now Wi-Fi totally turns off when I select the tile in quick settings!
See attachments!

I think it's common marshmallow bug, not only in Moto devices but even Nexus devices facing this issue.
After some reboots it goes back to normal.

vicky90 said:
I think it's common marshmallow bug, not only in Moto devices but even Nexus devices facing this issue.
After some reboots it goes back to normal.
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Well, after rebooting my device this "issue" is still present... Anyway thanks for the feedback!

Then maybe resetting network settings and wiping cache in recovery will be the solution, because it has solved my Wi-Fi drains.

vicky90 said:
Then maybe resetting network settings and wiping cache in recovery will be the solution, because it has solved my Wi-Fi drains.
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I've re flashed the entire firmware but no changes... I'll wait fot Nougat then.

MarckozZ said:
Hi guys!
I have an XT1540, 2gb/16gb version (Retail US) on Marshmallow.
This is the situation: I'm not always at my house. So, I turn off WiFi when I don't use it. But, even though I turn off WiFi, it remains ON. This does not affect the battery duration. I also notice this when I toggle WiFi on using the tile under quick settings, it seems WiFi was always on because it shows available networks immediately.
Yes, I have turned off "Wi-Fi scanning" under Settings > Location > three dots > Scanning, so there is no reason why WiFi is always ON!
Does any of you have the same issue? I attached some screenies. :good:
Want to hear from you guys...
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It may sound too noobish but just check these-
Are you using the quick setting tile's down arrow to expand the WiFi list? I can't remember the behavior on stock but in cm 13 both clicking of quick setting tile icon and down arrow *enables* and expands the tile. In other roms, clicking wifi icon toggles it and arrow expands it.
Try this. Open settings>wifi and make sure it's off from there. Now pull down notification panel, and again pull down to open quick settings (qs) panel. Check wifi has a slant line going over it. That indicates its off. Now click on wifi icon (not the 'Wi-Fi' text with the arrow). Does the tile expand and shown as turned on? If yes then its normal behavior. It turns on wifi and expands the view to show wifi networks. In other roms, it just turns on wifi and clicking bottom text expands it.
And if you can bother , try this-
Make sure that settings>wifi shows its turned off.
if your rooted then install catlog app from playstore and run it. If you are not rooted then you can connect your phone to PC with usb debugging on and use the following command-
Code:
adb logcat
If wifi is still on in background and sanning then you can see lots of line referring to wpa_supplicant coming in continuously. This is the best way to tell.
The reason I am tellling you to confirm it is because it's rare. Custom roms are reporting wifi was on in battery page even when it was off (logcat method confirms this).
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Go to your location settings, hit the 3 dot menu button and select scanning. See if Wi-Fi scanning is selected. If so, this will allow the system to use Wi-Fi scanning to help fix your location and will keep Wi-Fi turned on.
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Gravemind2015 said:
It may sound too noobish but just check these-
Are you using the quick setting tile's down arrow to expand the WiFi list? I can't remember the behavior on stock but in cm 13 both clicking of quick setting tile icon and down arrow *enables* and expands the tile. In other roms, clicking wifi icon toggles it and arrow expands it.
Try this. Open settings>wifi and make sure it's off from there. Now pull down notification panel, and again pull down to open quick settings (qs) panel. Check wifi has a slant line going over it. That indicates its off. Now click on wifi icon (not the 'Wi-Fi' text with the arrow). Does the tile expand and shown as turned on? If yes then its normal behavior. It turns on wifi and expands the view to show wifi networks. In other roms, it just turns on wifi and clicking bottom text expands it.
And if you can bother , try this-
Make sure that settings>wifi shows its turned off.
if your rooted then install catlog app from playstore and run it. If you are not rooted then you can connect your phone to PC with usb debugging on and use the following command-
Code:
adb logcat
If wifi is still on in background and sanning then you can see lots of line referring to wpa_supplicant coming in continuously. This is the best way to tell.
The reason I am tellling you to confirm it is because it's rare. Custom roms are reporting wifi was on in battery page even when it was off (logcat method confirms this).
Broadcasted from Zeta Reticuli
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riggerman0421 said:
Go to your location settings, hit the 3 dot menu button and select scanning. See if Wi-Fi scanning is selected. If so, this will allow the system to use Wi-Fi scanning to help fix your location and will keep Wi-Fi turned on.
Sent from my MotoG3 using Tapatalk
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Solved.. It was strange but I did it. See OP:

Wifi calling notification.

I got my S8+ this morning and have blown most of the day loading stuff etc. I appreciate having WiFi (TMo)calling but is really necessary to be reminded it is active in the pull down screen? An icon on the notification bar is ok. The rest is a waste of space. Any way to turn it off? I've tried blocking notifications.

Very annoying, haven't found a way to turn that off. I just disabled wifi calling

Do the ATT phones have this also?

sprint doesn't thankfully

I think this is a bug. Normally when you keep wifi calling on as the primary it leaves a notification to remind you you're not on the voice network. But if you choose network preferred it should only pop up when network is not available and you're on wifi.
I set mine to network preferred and for some reason even though I have 4G it pops up with the wifi calling notification. The problem is im not even sure why its doing it. Does this mean the S8+ sux and doesnt have network where my S7E did. or is it just a bug......

Also very annoyed by this. I like WiFi calling as i have faster WiFi than cell service in my house, but i hate having to see the notification telling me it is enabled all the time (even if the feature isn't being used). I just turned it off.

no root required:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-systemui-tuner-t3588675
uncheck "VoWiFi"

chadstone30 said:
no root required:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-systemui-tuner-t3588675
uncheck "VoWiFi"
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Its not working with Tmobile wifi calling icon..
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Have been wondering about this also. Using a T-Mobile S8+ and haven't found a way to turn off the always-on-notification for the wifi-calling. I just leave it disabled most of the time unless I know I'll need to make a call over wifi, then I turn it on for stability.

I think I figured it out
Go to the drop down settings menu and click on the settings button. Tap on "Notifications", and then tap "Advanced" up at the top right of the screen, then tap on the 3 dots at top right again and choose "Show system apps". Scroll all the way down until you see the "Wi-Fi Calling" icon and tap on it and then toggle off the "App icon badges" switch. Then you'll need to click on the "Make sound" option below that toggle, go down to the "Advanced" section and tap "On lock screen" and tap "Do not show notifications". Seems like a hell of a lot of work just turn off an annoying notification icon I'll never use...

Signal icons missing

The wifi and cellular signal meter icons are missing on my primary user profile. They are shown when logged in as a different user. Is this normal?
VZ Pixel on Cricket, N2G47E, enrolled in DP program, locked and stock 7.1.2, April 5th patch level.

pcloadletter1 said:
The wifi and cellular signal meter icons are missing on my primary user profile. They are shown when logged in as a different user. Is this normal?
VZ Pixel on Cricket, N2G47E, enrolled in DP program, locked and stock 7.1.2, April 5th patch level.
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This isn't normal, you could try deleting and recreating your profile since it seems to work as a different user or doing a factory reset if you're paranoid about what may have caused the issue in the first place.

Google chat support also suggested a factory reset after safe mode and resetting network settings, so it looks like that's the plan. Just added a user to my 5x and the wifi icons are shown in both profiles.

pcloadletter1 said:
The wifi and cellular signal meter icons are missing on my primary user profile. They are shown when logged in as a different user. Is this normal?
VZ Pixel on Cricket, N2G47E, enrolled in DP program, locked and stock 7.1.2, April 5th patch level.
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Those things can be turned on or off in the system ui tuner in settings. You don't see it in settings by default though so unless you've already enabled it you'll have to do that first. Pull down the notification bar so you can see your quick toggles and then press and hold the settings icon at the top right until you see a message about system tuner being enabled. Then go in settings and you'll find it near the bottom. See if they are disabled in there. If not, try toggling them on. If they are already on try toggling them off and then on again and see if that works. If not, maybe try toggling them off, reboot and toggle them back on.

robocuff said:
Those things can be turned on or off in the system ui tuner in settings. You don't see it in settings by default though so unless you've already enabled it you'll have to do that first. Pull down the notification bar so you can see your quick toggles and then press and hold the settings icon at the top right until you see a message about system tuner being enabled. Then go in settings and you'll find it near the bottom. See if they are disabled in there. If not, try toggling them on. If they are already on try toggling them off and then on again and see if that works. If not, maybe try toggling them off, reboot and toggle them back on.
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Thanks robocuff!
I had system ui tuner enabled for a while now. Disabled and the icons reappeared. Re-enabled and they are still there, no reboot required. For good measure, I removed the wifi and cellular data tiles, an still have the icons.
It's unfortunate that google support suggests a factory reset when there is a much quicker and less intrusive method to correct this issue.

pcloadletter1 said:
Thanks robocuff!
I had system ui tuner enabled for a while now. Disabled and the icons reappeared. Re-enabled and they are still there, no reboot required. For good measure, I removed the wifi and cellular data tiles, an still have the icons.
It's unfortunate that google support suggests a factory reset when there is a much quicker and less intrusive method to correct this issue.
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Glad to hear it worked for you.

Mi Mix 2S Global ROM Wifi and Notifications Problems

Bought a new Mix 2S with the Global ROM installed (global version) on ebay. Installed Nova Launcher so I could have the app drawer, etc. Loving the phone except 2 major problems have cropped up and am wondering if others have seen it/have solutions.
1. Wifi looses the internet connection often; it shows "connected; no internet" and the phone stops working without a data connection. I am sitting near the router and my other phones have no problem but the mix won't hold the connection even after several reboots. I have to turn wifi on/off or reboot to get the connection back. Zero problems on cellular connections - it's only wifi.
2. Notification sounds stop working. When the phone is awake and for a few minutes afterward, notification sounds work fine then stop. I've shut off miui optimizations in developer options, shut off battery savings for all apps in the battery panel and have confirmed all the apps for which I want to get notifications have the notification options selected under apps yet - notification sounds stop working pretty quickly after the phone sleeps.
Any advice/guidance on these issues would be appreciated. Without a reliable data connection (and I need wifi deep in my building to get internet) the phone is useless and I've stopped using it after a few days.

TGUY25 said:
2. Notification sounds stop working. When the phone is awake and for a few minutes afterward, notification sounds work fine then stop. I've shut off miui optimizations in developer options, shut off battery savings for all apps in the battery panel and have confirmed all the apps for which I want to get notifications have the notification options selected under apps yet - notification sounds stop working pretty quickly after the phone sleeps.
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This bug still remains in latest build (8.10.11). in miui per/app notifications option, notifications are activated by default, BUT yoo can see a few options below each app notification page switch: Sound, vibration, show on lockscreen, show headup....
By default, I seem to remember only vibration option is activated, so here (and on each conversation you got a notification in the case of telegram) you have to activate all options you want: sound, show on lockscreen....
After a while, all this activated options will be resetted by the system (we dont know why) and will switch back to its defaults >> "only vibrate and dont show on lock screen" combination.