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Would you guys want a simple pack that would replace your default g1 apps automatically with better versions?
There are enough now where it would be a good idea.
Apps to be replaced:
Messaging replaced by ChompSMS.
Browser replaced by Steel.
Contacts replaced by Phonebook.
Alarmclock replaced by Klaxon.
Camera replaced by SnapPhoto.
I've talked to the developers and made sure that these apps are all standalone. Phonebook syncs on its own with your google contacts. Chomp receives texts independent of messaging.
It would be relatively noob friendly. If you were able to push your caches to the sd card, this would work fine.
If ChompSMS could handle MMS messages it might be a good idea, but as it stands I just removed it because it kept crashing on me anytime I even so much as looked at it wrong.
Hm. Good point with chomp. But I don't actually do mms messages. That's what email is for.
I was just thinking about this a few minutes ago. Mainly to replace the camera app with snapPhoto, and messaging with Chomp (never had any probs with chomp).
That's what I was forgetting. Snapphoto. That's now on the list as well.
You see, that would be nice if any of those apps worked decently...
The only halfway decent one you mentioned was chomp. The only stable thing you mentioned was SnapPhoto.
Phonebook is very slow and way too unresponsive to replace the contacts app, not to mention it has no option to set individual ringtones yet.
Steel is nice and all, but lacking BASIC functionality. For example on the stock browser when you go to a youtube page it gives you an option of playing through the youtube app. Steel does not, so it just leaves you not being able to watch shows.
Klaxon is extremely buggy. For example when in keyboard mode half of the klaxon screen is chopped off. Also when hitting snooze it usually takes a couple tries to put it to sleep.
Its a good try, but not quite ready yet.
I would definitely appreciate this. I'd never heard of steel before you mentioned it.
TuXeyM11 said:
You see, that would be nice if any of those apps worked decently...
The only halfway decent one you mentioned was chomp. The only stable thing you mentioned was SnapPhoto.
Phonebook is very slow and way too unresponsive to replace the contacts app, not to mention it has no option to set individual ringtones yet.
Steel is nice and all, but lacking BASIC functionality. For example on the stock browser when you go to a youtube page it gives you an option of playing through the youtube app. Steel does not, so it just leaves you not being able to watch shows.
Klaxon is extremely buggy. For example when in keyboard mode half of the klaxon screen is chopped off. Also when hitting snooze it usually takes a couple tries to put it to sleep.
Its a good try, but not quite ready yet.
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everything is entirely functional. steel gives you the option of opening it up in the viewer. phonebook is extremely quick and klaxon rapes the basic alarmclock.
As you can see from the responses, the problem is going to be that most people like and regularly use some but not all of those programs(for me it's steel and snap-photo, cause I like the normal contact manager and messaging, etc), so 1 package that replaces all of them won't be worth it for 90% of people. Would separate packages replacing 1 system app each be possible? Then people could pick and choose which ones they want.
This is a great idea once these apps mature a little more.
Like other have said, MMS support is needed in ChompSMS before it's a viable replacement for the built in messaging app.
I have problems every morning with Klaxon hitting the Off button. It rarely responds on the first hit.
I'm still having trouble seeing where Phonebook fits in as a replacement for the default phone app. It doesn't feel like a complete app yet. Exact Call Log is far better in my opinion, and faster. I know it doesn't have an integrated dialer, but for the logging portion, it's superior.
SnapPhoto is a decently solid app. I would have no qualms about replacing Camera.apk with SnapPhoto.
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As you can see from the responses, the problem is going to be that most people like and regularly use some but not all of those programs(for me it's steel and snap-photo, cause I like the normal contact manager and messaging, etc), so 1 package that replaces all of them won't be worth it for 90% of people. Would separate packages replacing 1 system app each be possible? Then people could pick and choose which ones they want.
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it might take me a couple days, but i could throw together a program that shows u a checklist and you select what replacements you want and what you dont.
thanks for the decent criticism.
Steel is a great browser. It also lets me download whatever file type I want, unlike the default chrome lite.
so it's decided.
I'll put up a little prog that allows you to choose which apps youd want defaulted from that list and it'l be installed automatically.
expect it within the next couple days.
I'm pretty sure snapphoto isn't standalone. When I replaced the stock app with it. I got force close errors in the area where you'd normally share/save. Also you lose the stock picture viewer, which not essential since you can use a file viewer, though it is a lot easier to use thumbnails then reading file names. But I know bratag updates it frequently so perhaps something has changed since I tried it. In fact I hope you can do it, I'll be following closely to see if its possible.
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I'm pretty sure snapphoto isn't standalone. When I replaced the stock app with it. I got force close errors in the area where you'd normally share/save. Also you lose the stock picture viewer, which not essential since you can use a file viewer, though it is a lot easier to use thumbnails then reading file names. But I know bratag updates it frequently so perhaps something has changed since I tried it. In fact I hope you can do it, I'll be following closely to see if its possible.
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Yeah. If you delete Camera.apk then SnapPhoto starts acting up. If you delete Email.apk then Gmail no longer appears in the "Recent Apps" list when you hold the Home button.
Deleting Alarm.apk and the Amazon MP3 app doesn't seem to have any negetive effects, though.
For the snapphoto issue, I removed camera.apk. named snapphoto.apk camera.apk and pushed it into the system apps folder. That's what I am going to be doing with all the other apps itself. The core is designed to run with the default apps in mind, but it doesn't care what the app is. It just cares that its where its supposed to be.
You won't be seeing your apps named steel and everything.
Steel will be called browser, chomp = messaging and so on and so forth.
Removing the defaults entirely and not replacing them causes instability.
a little update. just threw together all the vb coding to set up the exe that would create and run the batch file specifically for what apps you want replaced.
the OP has all the options that are listed. expect it tomorrow.
btw. chomp just got autorotate.
a little update. just threw together all the vb coding to set up the exe that would create and run the batch file specifically for what apps you want replaced.
the OP has all the options that are listed. expect it tomorrow.
btw. chomp just got autorotate.
Question...how would we get the updates for these apps? Like, say, if chomp decided to support MMS in the future.
Either one of two ways. You can replace the .apk in the folder I give you with the new version and simply run the .bat file again, or you can just wait till I reupload it with the updated versions.
I believe the HTC Hero has a softkey-menu called "share" in the camera-function, for instant upload to facebook, twitter, youtube and so on.
Is there any way to add this to the TD2? A dedicated share-menu, without the hazzle of browsing your way to the site and then uploading. Or maybe a little upload-app could be written?
anyone?
i know shozu can achieve this - but it would be good to have something built into the manila software...
For others interested, I found a solution to this one, at least for me. I've used ShoZu earlier, on symbian, in which you had to open shozu, click upload, browse your album, and then upload. So I didn't bother trying that at first, because for that I could just use the Microsoft Facebook app.
But, I downloaded ShoZu yesterday, mostly for fun to see how it is on winmo. Nothing apparantly different.
BUT, when I snapped a picture later in the day, I discover that ShoZu is automatically linked with your camera! As soon as I'd taken the picture, within a second, a ShoZu-menu popped up, asking if I wanted to share the photo(to facebook, which is my default in ShoZu. You can however choose whichever social site you prefer). And Shozu was not running beforehand.
As neat it would be to have this in the manila-menu, I think this was even better. You don't even have to click your way to a share-menu, all you have to do after taking a pic/video, is press "yes" and it's instantly uploaded!
You can also choose to add tags and info before uploading.
Have you ever handed over your phone to someone just so they can see the latest meme or the cool picture you took? I have made a way to do this without being concerned what they will do on your phone. With this app, they will only be able to see what you select.
Get it on the Play Store
Get it on Labs
How to use:
1) Make sure that you have some kind of lock screen. Pin, Password, Fingerprint, whatever
2) Go to your gallery, select some photos or videos and tap share.
3) Select the Secure Photo Viewer
And you are done! As soon as you press your lock button, the photos will pop up. Your friends won't be able to get into your phone until you unlock it again.
If you have any questions of feedback feel free to contact me in any way!
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Secure Photo Viewer, App for the Apps & Games
Contributors
GreeTech
Version Information
Status: Stable
Current Stable Version: 1.0
Stable Release Date: 2017-10-30
Created 2017-11-07
Last Updated 2017-11-07
Tested it briefly yesterday and it does exactly what it says it does. No complaints here!
Nice.
GreeTech said:
Have you ever handed over your phone to someone just so they can see the latest meme or the cool picture you took? I have made a way to do this without being concerned what they will do on your phone. With this app, they will only be able to see what you select.
Get it on the Play Store
Get it on Labs
How to use:
1) Make sure that you have some kind of lock screen. Pin, Password, Fingerprint, whatever
2) Go to your gallery, select some photos or videos and tap share.
3) Select the Secure Photo Viewer
And you are done! As soon as you press your lock button, the photos will pop up. Your friends won't be able to get into your phone until you unlock it again.
If you have any questions of feedback feel free to contact me in any way!
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Great app! It's quite a nifty feature for the occasional need for it. Nice work!
awesome idea! love it
Such an awesome idea. Well executed.
nice app and does its job.. :good:
This is..... The bomb ?
I've been looking for an app like this for years!! Thank you. Google's pinning idea isn't wrong but you're still able to use the complete app like close picture and browse through all folders of the gallery.
Maybe it is possible to integrate this into gallery so it is possible to choose to lock the chosen picture or the folder it is in.
This is what I've been looking for forever. Thanks a lotttttttt
I will try it.
I love the icon.
Can I share a folder?
truemagic said:
Can I share a folder?
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Interesting question. As far as I can tell you cannot share a folder in android. Still, the app will accept multiple pictures. I think that your gallery might support sharing all photos in an album. If not, you can still go into a folder/album in your gallery or file manager app and select all files there and share them. Most apps offer a way to select all files in the current folder. It should work as long only pictures/Videos are selected. Good luck and I would love to hear if it worked out.
appsogreat said:
I love the icon.
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Thanks! As an artistically really ungifted person it often takes me hours to make one. Luckily there are a lot of great free assets.
truemagic said:
Can I share a folder?
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I have taken a better look at this. Some file managers indeed allow you to share a folder, but they first create a zip file, which you can share with others. But as it isn't a picture, it won't work. Simply opening the folder and pressing select all will allow you to share all the pictures with the app and it will work.
For example Google Photos on the other hand indeed doesn't allow this as far as I know. You can use the multi-select feature to quickly select images, but there is no option to share a whole album, so you have to multi-select each photo. Even though you just have to hold down your thumb on the bottom of the screen and it will continue scrolling on it's own, this might take quite some time.
So the answer really depends on what you are using. If you let me know, I can try to find a better way.
Also, thanks to all of you my app skyrocketed to over 2 000 installs within 4 days! This is amazing!
I've tried the app on 3 different devices (Samsung, THL and Asus; 2x 4.4.2, 1x 5.0). On all 3 the "folder sharing" worked fine when using each device's respective stock gallery app. I could even select multiple folders to share. (The only limitation seemed that the folder must not contain too many files. Folders with 300/500 (iirc) pictures could not be shared.)
When using Simple Gallery or QuickPic (old version) on the other hand, I could not find a way to share a folder.
Being able to quickly share a folder is really nice, I have to say. This would probably be my favorite usage scenario for this app.
One problem I do have tho, is that I find the app to be a bit too easy to dismiss. As soon as the home or back button is touched, it's back to the lockscreen. This could get a bit impractical, especially with not so tech-savvy people. If I hand the device to somebody who's not used to smartphones (yes, people like that still exist ) (or a kid) to view, let's say, 30 vacation pictures, it's almost guaranteed that at some point they'll accidentally touch home/return and thereby end SPV. Then they would have to hand the phone back to me, I'd have to unlock the phone, reselect pictures/folder, relock, and hand it back to them so they can view the rest of the pictures...
Imo it either should be a bit harder to leave SVP (like maybe having to double tap/long press home/return) or it needs an easier way back into the SVP-selected pics (without having to unlock).
Also I don't really get why there's an "or pin this app" option. Granted, I'm still mostly using Kitkat, so I'm not really that familiar with the pinning feature. But I was under the impression that your app is supposed to be a better alternative to pinning, so why include it??
(hope I didn't sound too negative here really no offense meant)
I can't even open mine
Fuxiz said:
I can't even open mine
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You need to go to your gallery and share a picture from there (or any other place that can share pictures). Besides facebook, whatsapp and so on there will be secure photo viewer.
GreeTech said:
You need to go to your gallery and share a picture from there (or any other place that can share pictures). Besides facebook, whatsapp and so on there will be secure photo viewer.
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Ah. Thanks
Krete said:
I've tried the app on 3 different devices (Samsung, THL and Asus; 2x 4.4.2, 1x 5.0). On all 3 the "folder sharing" worked fine when using each device's respective stock gallery app. I could even select multiple folders to share. (The only limitation seemed that the folder must not contain too many files. Folders with 300/500 (iirc) pictures could not be shared.)
When using Simple Gallery or QuickPic (old version) on the other hand, I could not find a way to share a folder.
Being able to quickly share a folder is really nice, I have to say. This would probably be my favorite usage scenario for this app.
One problem I do have tho, is that I find the app to be a bit too easy to dismiss. As soon as the home or back button is touched, it's back to the lockscreen. This could get a bit impractical, especially with not so tech-savvy people. If I hand the device to somebody who's not used to smartphones (yes, people like that still exist ) (or a kid) to view, let's say, 30 vacation pictures, it's almost guaranteed that at some point they'll accidentally touch home/return and thereby end SPV. Then they would have to hand the phone back to me, I'd have to unlock the phone, reselect pictures/folder, relock, and hand it back to them so they can view the rest of the pictures...
Imo it either should be a bit harder to leave SVP (like maybe having to double tap/long press home/return) or it needs an easier way back into the SVP-selected pics (without having to unlock).
Also I don't really get why there's an "or pin this app" option. Granted, I'm still mostly using Kitkat, so I'm not really that familiar with the pinning feature. But I was under the impression that your app is supposed to be a better alternative to pinning, so why include it??
(hope I didn't sound too negative here really no offense meant)
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I was away for a long time and also needed some time to look into the folder sharing, but I couldn't find a solution that works on newer versions on android. The home button also can't be overridden for security reasons, but there is definitely something I can do to make it relaunch after closing, or at least offer the user an option to do so.
App pinning solves this too, as a pinned app can't be closed by the home or back button. So if you pin an app, you basically can use only this app unless you unpin it and unlock the device. If you pin your gallery, others can still go back and look at other pictures because it's the same app (gallery). If you pin the SPV instead, they won't be able to see anything else as they can only access the SPV and it only shows the selected photos.
Is it the only gallery option stock? I just never have liked it an this it my first foray into Pixel. I guess it makes sense that they lock you into their apps by default. I hate the idea of having to trial a bunch of third party apps and figure out what covers my basics without tracking or hacking at me.
I disabled Photos and when I take a picture and hit the little icon of said picture it pops up to look at an instantly shrinks down and goes back to camera. So I assume my only option is the one mentioned above...
Any recommendations for a good, basic, safe gallery app? I've been on Samsungs and LGs in the past to that's my main frame of reference. I only need the ability to see them and maybe group them. No backups or online linkage needed as we backup automatically to our NAS.
-gmolds
p.s. I do like the camera though... seems to be better at auto mode than my LG V20 but of course the manual on the LGs is hard to top.
QuickPic has always been my favorite. I haven't really looked lately though. The one called Gallery by Cloud Innovation Studio looks pretty nice now that I'm actually looking. Check those out or maybe just type in Gallery and see what you find.
i use simple gallery https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.simplemobiletools.gallery.pro&hl=en_US you can also get it on fdroid for free if you want https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.simplemobiletools.gallery.pro/
quickpic hasn't been good in ages so i wouldn't trust it.
after you install a new gallery app just disable google photos and everything should switch to use the new one
Haven't tried that one, I'll give it a go despite quickpic working just fine.
weird idea: have you considered using the "images" shortcut of the "files" app? i've just saved it to a folder on my desktop and am finding it works fine for anything gphotos is not good for (i.e. looking at misc locally saved pics). (excuse all the black and the errr assortment of pictures i choose to keep on my device)
c_tho said:
weird idea: have you considered using the "images" shortcut of the "files" app? i've just saved it to a folder on my desktop and am finding it works fine for anything gphotos is not good for (i.e. looking at misc locally saved pics). (excuse all the black and the errr assortment of pictures i choose to keep on my device)
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Problem (for me at least) is that quick switching from the camera to look at the last pic taken still fails if there's no default gallery app.
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Problem (for me at least) is that quick switching from the camera to look at the last pic taken still fails if there's no default gallery app.
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oh yeah you definitely cannot get around that i don't think. it's a problem as old as time.
c_tho said:
oh yeah you definitely cannot get around that i don't think. it's a problem as old as time.
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:laugh: I heartily laughed at the "old as time" comment. HA! Whether you meant it that way or not that chuckle was a great start to my Friday.
Cheers!
So, I just noticed something REALLY weird today and I don't know what to make of it...
I installed a new app on my phone (Lyft) and it asked me to setup a profile photo. Okay, no problem. I click the option to select photos from my existing collection and it takes me to the gallery to select a photo. I'm scrolling down, looking for a good photo when I suddenly come across photos that I did not take. There's about 30 of them and they look like they were taken at a Energy Conference in Beddington, UK on November 26th. I live in Washington State, USA and have not been anywhere near the UK and my phone has not gone missing or been out of my sight for the last few weeks. This is strange and creepy. How are someone else's photos on my phone?
I start doing a bit of investigation. I close the Lyft app and open my gallery app on my S9+. I scroll through all my photos, but these stranger's photos are not showing up no matter how I sort the display settings. I open up another app (Uber) and go to change my profile photo. I opt to choose from my gallery and there's the stranger's photos again. I notice that the file name, file size and date of the photo is provided in this view, so I connected my phone to the PC and ran a search for some of those file names and came up with nothing. I searched my phone using my file manager app and also found nothing.
Someone on Reddit recommended I try using my email app to send myself the image so I can investigate the details. This worked, but only deepens the mystery! It seems like the photos were taken with an Olympus Digital Camera (not even a smartphone!) and the date taken was from way back in 2006!?
At this point I'm out of ideas. I have no clue why these mystery photos are on my phone and can't find out how to find/delete them or how they got on my phone in the first place.
It's so freakin' weird! I'm sharing a few screenshots here in case it helps anyone else identify my issue. If anyone has thoughts, please share them.
P.S. My phone was purchased new over a year ago. If anyone cares, I posted this on Reddit before coming here seeking additional help. You can see the Reddit thread here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS9/comments/e5okh4/really_weird_gallery_issue_with_a_strangers/
wonder if they're embedded in the apps?
One possible reason is that it's just downloaded by some other app, e.g. Facebook downloading photos from a post that you came across. If you don't remember anything related, did you ever have anyone else using your phone?
The Samsung gallery is written by Samsung while the system file picker (called DocumentsUI) is mainly written by Google, so they might be having different strategies on what photos to hide, e.g. Samsung thinks Facebook photo download directory shouldn't be shown, while DocumentsUI doesn't, so it's entirely possible that you can only find the photo via picker.