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Just loaded the official JH7 release and took my scooter for a ride. Captivate in my left front pants pocket, so it sits face down on my thigh, back (battery) side facing up toward the sky. Actually, it looks very good. Before the ride, lock was very good, lots of satellites and all locked very quickly. And the track looks excellent. I'll be curious how this works in a week... whether it degrades as the other one appeared to. But at the moment I am tentatively happy. Note the scooter ride averaged 20.82 mph, max speed of 38. So this was not a slow walking track. And yes I went up and down those blocks making a pattern to test the GPS. ;-)
Please post your test results of JH7 in this thread so we can compare.
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I am in no way trying to be disrespectful, or an a$$ even though the following may seem like I am:
Did you search the forums before posting this? I started a thread similar to this not 20 minutes ago. I personally do not care to be the OP but I am posting here to explain that this is the reason we 2312 different threads about the same dang thing (today's update). It is impossible to search for information because everyone seems to feel the need to post their own thread.
Again no disrespect, I am not trying to dampen your enthusiasm for this but just would like some organization so that people (me ) won't have to read 30 different threads to get some information. I will ask the XDA gods to merge our threads maybe???
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I am in no way trying to be disrespectful, or an a$$ even though the following may seem like I am:
Did you search the forums before posting this? I started a thread similar to this not 20 minutes ago. I personally do not care to be the OP but I am posting here to explain that this is the reason we 2312 different threads about the same dang thing (today's update). It is impossible to search for information because everyone seems to feel the need to post their own thread.
Again no disrespect, I am not trying to dampen your enthusiasm for this but just would like some organization so that people (me ) won't have to read 30 different threads to get some information. I will ask the XDA gods to merge our threads maybe???
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I was looking for a thread like this not 15 minutes ago. Finding it in this cluster of posts isn't easy.
ptc62, Maybe if you had named your original post usefully, or had actually posted some test data yourself, I would have noticed it. Was I supposed to search for "million dollar question"? I understand your frustration as I HAVE kept up with the other threads and its a lot of work. But it's true I don't read the ones with ambiguous titles. As it is, your comment only disrupts an otherwise useful thread. Oh well. Sorry for any angst I have caused you.
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I am in no way trying to be disrespectful, or an a$$ even though the following may seem like I am:
Did you search the forums before posting this? I started a thread similar to this not 20 minutes ago. I personally do not care to be the OP but I am posting here to explain that this is the reason we 2312 different threads about the same dang thing (today's update). It is impossible to search for information because everyone seems to feel the need to post their own thread.
Again no disrespect, I am not trying to dampen your enthusiasm for this but just would like some organization so that people (me ) won't have to read 30 different threads to get some information. I will ask the XDA gods to merge our threads maybe???
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Your "Million Dollar Question" topic tittle is very misleading. I wouldn't blame Vintage for not being able to find it and starting a new thread. You should have been more specific. "Today's update" can mean anything in the title.
Vintagephone, thank you for making a thread with a proper title. Thank you for your test results. Now I can stock you because I know your scooter route , lol jk. I use to live in Irvine, kinda close by. I'm glad the GPS looks like it's working kind of well in CA.
This is a useful thread. Don't worry. It's very specific to JH7 -and- GPS. Plus, the thread TITLE is perfect. Great post.
My test... using the GPS Test app, it took about 45sec to lock on the first try. After it locked, I rebooted the phone. The next time it locked, it took only about 15sec.
On a sidenote, I'm still having problems with the Use Wireless Networks triangulate my location. I have that checked and Use GPS unchecked. I had Google Maps (the latest version) try to use the wireless networks to get My Location but it says "Your current location is temporarily unavailable." Something is up.
On a much side(r) note, PC Connection (for tethering) is gone. Accessing GPS settings via phone dialer is gone. YouTube widget has rotating feature videos, and the screen brightness settings that used to be the dimmest possible became much dimmer.
I did a track using My Tracks for my ride home from work and it was pretty bad, actually. It was an 8 mile ride, and it completely lost my location (stopped recording on default settings) 3 times. There were times when it worked flawlessly, but other times when it just connected the dots taking me off the road... So far, I am not very impressed. However, it is functional enough to use location-based apps and do some navigation (but I wouldn't rely on it completely, you'll end up in a ditch).
Here's a track I recorded this afternoon. 7.52 mi, 31.62 mph average speed, 61.04 mph max speed. Blame afternoon traffic. There is one inexplicable gap, and one spot where the track veers off to the center of the freeway. The latter was while driving next to/under a raised expressway, so perhaps it's sort of excusable? I dunno.
Overall, though, the GPS worked GREAT on this drive. It's not perfect, but it's about 500 times better than it ever was before this patch. Previously, it would show me going completely off the road, and making loops at intersections. Not usable at all. But for now, I am tentatively impressed with this fix. Only time will tell if performance will degrade as in the past, but right now it's working so well it's astonishing.
The only distressing part is that the GPS got a 10 meter, 7 satellite lock on me... in the bathroom with no windows... on the... toilet.
OK, here are my real world GPS test results after installing the new update:
Just drove home from work, about 24 miles. I drive through residential, heavily wooded, congested business and open highway areas. The GPS locked on within seconds of me starting up Google Navigation. It was spot on for almost the whole trip. Only when I was stopped for a period of time (i.e. at a traffic light) would it cause a hiccup when locating me. For example, at one stop light, it located me about 30-50 yards to my right on the road perpendicular to me. But as soon as I started moving, it picked me up correctly. Overall, it appears that the GPS issues have been improved. Probably not completely fixed, but it was a good experience compared to before the update.
Thanks everyone with your test results! May I ask you to add where you had your GPS? Direct view of the sky? Through windshield? Hidden under under your dash? Locked in your trunk? ;-)
I was holding it for a little while, but then placed it in my cup holder by my shifter, then on the passenger seat. Either spot, it didn't lose its GPS lock.
Has anyone with the knowhow attempted to see what it is exactly that was changed?
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Thanks everyone with your test results! May I ask you to add where you had your GPS? Direct view of the sky? Through windshield? Hidden under under your dash? Locked in your trunk? ;-)
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It was sitting on the passenger seat during my drive. I don't have a car mount for it yet.
Tested mine today on my drive home after flashing JH7. It worked great (though mine worked decent on JF6). It found 8 satellites instantly after opening my gps test app, and locked on to 6 in under a minute. I drove home on the freeway for about 30 minutes with the phone in a car dock doodad and it never lost a single satellite lock.
I had flashed the vibrant files onto my captivate before and GPS worked amazing. I updated and yes it could find me indoors and outside, but the actual GPS lock was pretty much a street away from my actual location. It also lost lock multiple times. I am restoring my phone back to the way it was before the update. My GPS could get a lock indoors with no circle around me and it was 10x more accurate than it is after the update.
I tried to do the update earlier today, and it said it failed. I didn't think much of it. I went for a walk in the park later, and turned on My Tracks, thinking it would be a good 'control' to see how much better the new update would be once I got it working.
It took <10 seconds to lock, but I was outside in a park. After it got a lock, I hit record, put the phone in my pocket, and walked around the park.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=U...68140665381380.000490e8a97287c8ebf1b&t=h&z=18
It's pretty much dead on, off by no more than a couple of meters anywhere.
When I got home, I checked back at the forums, where it was pointed out to me that for some people, the update claimed to fail, but actually updated. I checked my About screen, and sure enough, it updated.
So, while I don't recall it being particularly "bad" outside before, with the new update, it worked just fine in my pocket.
If your GPS seems fixed, please post your GPS settings. My update didn't complete successfully and GPS now is worse than before.
Here are some examples of errors from my track. It got me thinking: could the Body Glove case be getting in the way? I'll test it naked this afternoon.
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alkiter If your GPS seems fixed, please post your GPS settings. My update didn't complete successfully and GPS now is worse than before.
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Settings:
Session Type - Tracking
Test Mode - S/W Test
Operation Mode - MS Based
Start Mode - Hot Start
GPS Plus - On
Dynamic Accuracy - ON
Accuracy - 50 (Able to alter/update)
Use Skyhook - OFF
Use PC Tool - OFF
Server FQDN Type - Auto Confi
Server - h-slp.mnc410.mcc310.pub.3gpp (Which is now locked down and unable to overwrite)
Server Port - 7275
SUPL Secure Socket - ON
AGPS Mode - SUPL
I have not updated after seeing the problems everyone is dealing with. I DID change my gps settings to this and have noticed a significant improvement. Thanks!
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Of course I had to change "Server FQDN Type" from auto to custom in order to keep the new server.
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This was a quick walk from my car to work this morning using My Tracks. It should show straight lines along the aisles but apparently the GPS still thinks I jump back and forth 30 feet at a time. The phone was in my front pants pocket, battery side out. JH7 was applied successfully yesterday. I'd say GPS isn't fixed.
I have to add I haven't had many problems with Runkeeper and GPS. The paths it records are almost perfect. Why My Tracks and most other GPS programs have such a big problem I have no idea.
I'm going on a backpacking trip, and I would like to bring my phone to use in the car on the trip there and back (it's something like 5 hours each way, so I would like to have something to do in the car).
I would like to leave my phone in the car during the actual trip (2 days). I know that heat can be bad for a phone, but would leaving my phone in the car be a bad idea? What's the best location for it? Trunk, glove compartment, under a seat?
The high for each day is listed as 80F, low of 50-60F, and the car most likely will be parked in at least partial shade.
Does anyone have experience with this / any recommendations?
Depends on how hot your car actually gets, which will depend on how much shade you're actually talking about. It's not just a matter of the electronics, it can also be the possibility of adhesives in the phone softening if the heat is too high. If possible I'd just find somewhere safe to keep it in your gear and take it with you.
Oh man, 80 degrees in the shade is nothing, well at least not to me since it gets up to over 100 here. Putting it in the trunk will keep it cooler because it won't be exposed to any sunlight.
Yeah, keeping it out of direct sunlight is key. I kept an old iPhone 3G in my car at all times (played music off it) in North Carolina, even in the mid-90 degree summers, and have never had any issues with it aside from the screen perhaps getting a little washed out. I would just stick it in the glove compartment on particularly hot days.
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I'm going on a backpacking trip, and I would like to bring my phone to use in the car on the trip there and back (it's something like 5 hours each way, so I would like to have something to do in the car).
I would like to leave my phone in the car during the actual trip (2 days). I know that heat can be bad for a phone, but would leaving my phone in the car be a bad idea? What's the best location for it? Trunk, glove compartment, under a seat?
The high for each day is listed as 80F, low of 50-60F, and the car most likely will be parked in at least partial shade.
Does anyone have experience with this / any recommendations?
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Ya' know what. Two years ago had same experience. Have Galaxy Ace and kept it in the box for accesories (in front of front passengers legs) and everthing went well. Hope helped you. Sry for bad english
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Oh man, 80 degrees in the shade is nothing, well at least not to me since it gets up to over 100 here. Putting it in the trunk will keep it cooler because it won't be exposed to any sunlight.
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I've actually read reports that the trunk can get just as hot or close to the same temp as the inside of the car. on a 95 Deg day it could be 120 in the trunk :/
Turn it off when you leave it in the car.
Sent from a digital distance.
yeah at least turn it off, because the battery will live longer though
Sorry I never responded sooner.
I just got back from the trip, and everything worked out great. I left the phone in the trunk of the car, parked in the shade, and there were no problems when I got back. This is at least partially due to the shade and the cool-ish weather.
Ive had the Gear 2 for 6 days. I bought it last thursday, put it on and paired it in the parking lot and then went to the gym. While riding the recumbent bike I noticed the heart rate monitor was accurate and matched up with the bike's up until around 125 bpm and then it would either give me the "cannot measure" error or would give back a really inaccurate reading... like 71 bpm when it should have been around 148-150. This has been the case every time i go to the gym, no matter how i wear the Gear 2, on the top side of my wrist or the bottom side. I actually live chatted with a Samsung Customer service rep and he told me to do a factory reset to see if that would help. I haven't gone to the gym to see if this helped.
Is this a known issue? I also shaved the hair off my wrist and am now wearing it a bit further up on my arm to test it again today when i go to the gym.
Also another question i had is when you turn the volume all the way up (level 6) when using the gear 2 as a speaker phone is it normal for the speaker to buzz slightly when a person is talking to you?
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Ive had the Gear 2 for 6 days. I bought it last thursday, put it on and paired it in the parking lot and then went to the gym. While riding the recumbent bike I noticed the heart rate monitor was accurate and matched up with the bike's up until around 125 bpm and then it would either give me the "cannot measure" error or would give back a really inaccurate reading... like 71 bpm when it should have been around 148-150. This has been the case every time i go to the gym, no matter how i wear the Gear 2, on the top side of my wrist or the bottom side. I actually live chatted with a Samsung Customer service rep and he told me to do a factory reset to see if that would help. I haven't gone to the gym to see if this helped.
Is this a known issue? I also shaved the hair off my wrist and am now wearing it a bit further up on my arm to test it again today when i go to the gym.
Also another question i had is when you turn the volume all the way up (level 6) when using the gear 2 as a speaker phone is it normal for the speaker to buzz slightly when a person is talking to you?
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I have this issue for only a few minutes in an hour workout... but then it will go back to normal. I compared it to a strap heart rate monitor and it would stay +1-5 versus the strap. Otherwise it even gets up to 170 when I go hard. I usually start with it higher on my arm because my bone sticks out sometimes it doesn't get a good connection, but it usually falls and still tells accurately. Otherwise I would say it is accurate a majority of the time.
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I have this issue for only a few minutes in an hour workout... but then it will go back to normal. I compared it to a strap heart rate monitor and it would stay +1-5 versus the strap. Otherwise it even gets up to 170 when I go hard. I usually start with it higher on my arm because my bone sticks out sometimes it doesn't get a good connection, but it usually falls and still tells accurately. Otherwise I would say it is accurate a majority of the time.
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Yeah it must be how close I wear it to that bone. I actually took my first one back thinking there was something wrong with it... The problem is i have a big wrist... I think I will replace the band. Thanks for the reply!
Who knows, they might find this thread and act
To kick it off:
1) Heart rate sensor is more miss than hit. I see a lot of 'clean the sensor and move it backward' messages. Nonsense of course, it should just work.
2) Floor count is totally 1000% off. Today I climbed well over 20 stairs (3-4 meter stairs) and the S3 indicates a glorious total of 3. Yes THREE Samsung, 3.
3) Altitude meter tells me I live 16 meters below sea level. I live in Amsterdam which is 3 meters below (really). But it gets better. During my yesterday's run it registered an elevation of -112 meter.
4) Messages from the phone do not always arrive on the S3. Maybe aliens interfere but that's unlikely so Samsung, please fix this. nr 1 missed is GMail, then Whatsapp.
5) This is not a bug but I would really like to see an option to permanently disable this watch as a Bluetooth device to take phone calls. I have my car for that, or my phone. Not the stupid watch.
OK, over to you guys, bring it on!
For your point 5, I think you can do this in the bluetooth settings for the watch on the phone - just turn off 'call audio'. NB: I have not tried this...
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For your point 5, I think you can do this in the bluetooth settings for the watch on the phone - just turn off 'call audio'. NB: I have not tried this...
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If it worked... But it keeps switching back on, also after a soft and full reset.
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If it worked... But it keeps switching back on, also after a soft and full reset.
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I was able to get it to stick permanently by repairing my car bluetooth and setting it to Phone Calls while having the watch disabled.
I'll try it again tomorrow, who knows!
Spotify
Advertising Spotify compatibility when as of right now, there is not.
Wrist gestures like in Android Wear
I always thought that you had to calibrate the altimeter at sea level???
Regarding #4: are you using AOD? If not, try using AOD and see if your notifications are more consistent.
PLS give me options for Google maps directions. I need nothing more than the direction arrows on the watch. No map needed. Anyway screen is too small for that. Just xxx meter +arrow
But I am super happy with the rest (off topic)
edit. I have found possible solution for the nav arrows Directions gears s2, which works with google maps.
Both on Phone and on gear an app is needed.
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I always thought that you had to calibrate the altimeter at sea level???
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Tried both ways, Calibrate known height and altimeter.
Googling this there are loads of S2 complaints regarding this, I guess this is not much improved.
most people complaining about altimeter don't know how a barometer works
also the best altimeter based on atmosferic pressure must be calibrated every time is possible to give good results
when the weather change a variation in pressure can be of 3-5 Hpa in 30 minutes and on altimeter more than 50m
weather change is a storm but also a fairy wind
when s3 measure a floor it register a .3 Hpa variation that must be in 5 to 20 sec
also a slap on the watch can be seen as a floor and the immersion in 50 cm of water can be 10 floors and also a shower and a storm
after a shower o a swimming pool the barometer is out of order for hours
samsung is most of times a good tech but can't do miracles
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I always thought that you had to calibrate the altimeter at sea level???
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It is a good thing to do. However it's based on barometric pressure so really doesn't matter that much. The key is to do it near something you know has a known elevation that way you know if it's correct. Like a sign in a national park or something that tells you, "you are at such and such El. ..."
BTW, a lot of you take things too seriously on this device. It's a watch, as long as the time is accurate all else are fun gimmicky gadgets for your wrist. If serious accuracy of data is important to you, buy the right tool for the job. It's like owning a repair business and trying to run it using a Leatherman tool.
Well, I live in Amsterdam, pressure has been 1027 hpa all day, we're at 3m below sea-level but the watch is all over the place and I've calibrated it like 209 times. Hasn't been wet, smacked, dropped. It's a watch with a barometer that's not too good.
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OK, over to you guys, bring it on!
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1. hair, tattoo, excessive sweat, a large band can and will interfere with HR
2. floors / stairs / floors / stairs / verdieping / trap (used GT for dutch) -- or maybe you're trying to tell something else because 20 stairs are relatively close to 3 floors
3. atmospheric pressure is pretty unstable even at known sea levels and when is taken into account for altitude can be messy
4. I don't know, it never happened to me but it could be an issue I suppose
5. connections, disconnect BT
20 floors, some 60.meters.
When wanting to look at widgets from the clock face the bezel it turned clockwise - but the display animation rotates anti clockwise
The opposite is true to see notifications.
This just seems wrong to me and I often turn the bezel the wrong way.
I cant see Samsung changing the default behavior and I am starting to get used to it but an option to make it work 'correctly for my head' would be nice.
Hey guys, I did a full test of the gear s3 heart rate against my chest strap and Apple Watch 2 Nike. I did indoor running and indoor biking for three days. My findings are that it's almost perfect, with 2 or 3 bpms difference with my chest strap. This difference is not always, some most of the time gear s3 was matching my chest strap. The Apple Watch was good too.
Method: chest strap + wahoo iPhone app. Gear s3 below my wrist ( this is key, when you find the sweet spot, it's super accurate) + s-health on iPhone. Apple Watch + workouts app.
Let me know your findings!
Is the step count accurate and for everyone. For me I think it counts too many...,
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Is the step count accurate and for everyone. For me I think it counts too many...,
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It does.
It should only count arm movements combined with forward motion but it also incidentally counts just arm movements. Plus, this morning, it showed 54 steps when I picked it up from the drawer. Obviously it should have been zero.
Than again, on a full day it's pretty good, about the same as my Pebble Time Steel (which I compared it with over the weekend).
I've had my Gear for about 10 days and have piled up over 12000 steps each day, but have only been credited with 1 floor climbed. My house has 3 stories so I'm pretty sure that total should be closer to 100. Anyone else having this issue?
Don't hold onto any railings and make sure your arm swings as if you are walking.
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Don't hold onto any railings and make sure your arm swings as if you are walking.
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LOL, all I could thing of was Seinfeld when I read your response. "How's this? Or this?" "You seem to be getting the hang of it." Seriously, though, I deliberately hold the rail with the opposite hand when climbing stairs so that I can swing the one with the Gear on it. Still nothing. Not sure what's up. Any other ideas?
I walk up and down to the sixth floor at work a couple of times a day and typically that adds up to 2 or 3 floor. I have a 3 story house, same thing. The floor counter sucks...
Thanks. Definitely sounds like it's not just me. Maybe a firmware update will fix it.
Well, at least now I know it's not just me having this issue
same problem never counts my stair climbs
If it is basing floors on the altimeter, that might explain the problem. The altimeter on this thing is trash. It's rarely within 100 feet of my actual elevation, even after a calibration. Doubt that can be fixed, but I'll keep my fingers crossed.
Thinks I'm riding a bike when I get in the car sometimes. Also the pace in S Health is way off. Not the best fitness tracker around but we don't have any other options.
Though not accurate; mine is working fine. I remember reading something like 'one floor is calculated as approximately 3 metres'.
Can someone confirm this?
Floor count
I've done at least 10 floors today and the Gear shows 1. It was OK yesterday. Any ideas?
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A reboot got it counting floors accurately again
Same problem. Altimeter has me at -6M! Fitbit shows 10 floors to S3 2 floors. Rubish
On the flip side of the problem - Mine detects elevator rides as stairs climbed.
I think it is the same "rules" as the FitBit I was wearing before the S3. They only register a floor if the flight of stairs consist of 10 continuous steps.
I have a split level house, two flights of 8 steps.
If I walk up one it doesn't register as a 'floor' but if I walk up both (as long as I don't delay on the landing) it increases my S3's floor count by 1 floor.
On my outside walks a steady climb up a hill does register floor counts as well.
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On the flip side of the problem - Mine detects elevator rides as stairs climbed.
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Same issue for me too. Had the watch for about 3 weeks and very few floor counts
I've noticed the same as all, I get a very low stair count. I have one set of stairs in the house and I'm up and down them all day, but the count stays low. I had a Fitbit that would give me a very accurate count of my stairs. I've turned off floor count since it's almost useless.
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Yeah it's not accurate at all....I get less than 5 floors a day and I have 2 stair wells at home which I dash through hourly...It's flawed for sure.
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I've been trying out different functions; floor count is definitely buggy, so is the heart rate monitor especially when you are working out, the distance counter too counted an extra 1 kilometre on my run, the Calorie counter is also buggy for Other Workout option as it confuses vigorous and moderate intensity.
I've tried turning it on and off, I've tried cleaning the ram, I've tried swinging mu arms, I've tried to walk slower and faster but it's still there. I would send an email to S Health, but they'll like send me to another guy and ask me to detail it again, and I'm jist too lazy.
To be honnest, all the sensors on the GEAR S3 are totally screwed up.
Floor count, steps, heart rate, altimeter, barometer all terrible. The most inccurate looks to be the altimeter. Staying in my house for a week, altimeter fluctuate between -71m and +70m... USELESS! Not too sure if a firmware upgrade can fix those sensors or if they are low cost pieces of crap. Will see... or not