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Recommendations on OTA (ATT 4.0.3/4.0/1.73)

Hey all,
I rooted my HOX (1.73, 4.0.3) with the kpenn ne-Click a few days after I got it for the Tether and to de-bloat. Since then I haven't read anything on the One X till I heard Jelly Bean coming along. Anyhoo my question is what the upside of getting the new OTA (4.0.4) would be and how I would go about it if I wanted to (I've never updated before and ATT has stopped asking me to update, also I get nothing when I try to check for an update).
I've been reading around and it seems like most people are on to 1.85 and are flashing 4.1/2.2. My primary uses of my phone are for the media applications/web browsing and I haven't noticed any real drop in performance but I have heard the new updates have sped up the HOX considerably which is something I'm always interested in.
Thanks!

DON'T flash any OTA you will lose your root and will lose your ability to re root because there is no boot loader unlock for the new base. If you want to update and flash a new ROM and want to stick to sense, look at clean rom or xi40. Both are updated on the new base and are heaps and bounds better than the original ATT software :thumbup:

Shaddy-Z. said:
DON'T flash any OTA you will lose your root and will lose your ability to re root because there is no boot loader unlock for the new base. If you want to update and flash a new ROM and want to stick to sense, look at clean rom or xi40. Both are updated on the new base and are heaps and bounds better than the original ATT software :thumbup:
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i one-clicked unrooted my phone earlier and freaked out (and the new updates didn't work out on my phone anyway). i ended up getting kpenn's one click again and putting SU back into my phone. Do you have any links that can take me on a step by step process of unlocking my phone and flashing those roms on it? I just love being able to control my phone and pushing it to its absolute limits.

Sigh. I followed the tutorial but I made a few mistakes...
1) I unlocked my phone way earlier than I should have so I wiped everything before I could make a back-up..
2) Re-locked accordingly to see if I could keep updating. I did manage to get to 1.85 like the tutorial said but.....
3) Since I didn't have a custom recovery I wasn't sure how to proceed. I couldn't get the root to flash so I tried using the 1-click 1.85 root since my phone was running 1.85.
....This ended up updating to 2.2 so now I have an unlocked HOX 2.2/4.0.4. With all the bloat.
Dumb dumb dumb. Ugh.

Pbdeng said:
Sigh. I followed the tutorial but I made a few mistakes...
1) I unlocked my phone way earlier than I should have so I wiped everything before I could make a back-up..
2) Re-locked accordingly to see if I could keep updating. I did manage to get to 1.85 like the tutorial said but.....
3) Since I didn't have a custom recovery I wasn't sure how to proceed. I couldn't get the root to flash so I tried using the 1-click 1.85 root since my phone was running 1.85.
....This ended up updating to 2.2 so now I have an unlocked HOX 2.2/4.0.4. With all the bloat.
Dumb dumb dumb. Ugh.
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it's UNLOCKED?
you're lucky then.
just push a recovery like twrp then push root. Then you can debloat.

Yep, it's still unlocked. That was around the 4-7th reset I did (I messed up a lot). Do you have a link that shows me how to do that? I'm actually not as bummed about going to 2.2 since it runs so much faster than 1.73 did.

Pbdeng said:
Yep, it's still unlocked. That was around the 4-7th reset I did (I messed up a lot). Do you have a link that shows me how to do that? I'm actually not as bummed about going to 2.2 since it runs so much faster than 1.73 did.
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make sure you have your unlock token and then go to http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader/unlock-instructions/page-4/
and follow the directions.
after that look at this thread to install twrp http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1777773
then this one to re-root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1673935

I notice one of the links is for 1.85. Does that mean that I'll go from 2.2 back to 1.85? I just wanted to make sure since my impression from the forums is that there is no 2.2 root yet unless it was flashed.

Pbdeng said:
I notice one of the links is for 1.85. Does that mean that I'll go from 2.2 back to 1.85? I just wanted to make sure since my impression from the forums is that there is no 2.2 root yet unless it was flashed.
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no those pages just tell you how to manually install root and recovery.
your bootloader is still unlockable
unlock it
then install a recovery
then install root via that recovery

Ahh, thanks a bunch man.

Sorry if this is repetitive....
So I've checked my phone and currently it states that it is
"Re-locked"
I downloaded a recovery so it's currently on my phone. Furthermore I all ready had a copy of SU sitting in my phone's download folder.
Does this mean that I'm going to...
- Unlock bootloader (that is currently relocked) and have everything erased again.
- Reboot from recovery (of the evita 2.2.img I just downloaded with TWRP)
- Then flash the SU root I all ready have on my phone?

Pbdeng said:
Sorry if this is repetitive....
So I've checked my phone and currently it states that it is
"Re-locked"
I downloaded a recovery so it's currently on my phone. Furthermore I all ready had a copy of SU sitting in my phone's download folder.
Does this mean that I'm going to...
- Unlock bootloader (that is currently relocked) and have everything erased again.
- Reboot from recovery (of the evita 2.2.img I just downloaded with TWRP)
- Then flash the SU root I all ready have on my phone?
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yeah unlock the boot loader. set up the phone again
then install the recovery then root.
to make your unlock stick, turn off fastboot in power options, then power down phone completely then restart it to the bootloader.

Hmm, so my phone is definitely unlocked now. I installed the recovery and I manually flashedthe new SuperSU in that link you posted for me. As far as I can tell nothing is happening.
Note: It says that it installs the recovery but there is no reboot that occurs. I've done this both with the android app and manually and nothing is happening.
I don't see SuperSU and rootchecker is confirming that my phone isn't rooted yet.

so you reboot to recovery, choose the superSU package to install then what happens?
I know this works I've done it quite a few times myself.

Presently I installed the latest img file with TWRP with the app. There is not reboot that occurs (unless I'm suppose to reboot on my own?). If that's the case then I've been a total idiot.
I've just been installing the openrecovery and then I press "Flash Roms" to flash the supersu. I get a little notification that says "Preparing to Flash" and then nada.

After you install twrp recovery you reboot. Then you boot to recovery and flash the super su zip manually

Wooh! I got it to work! Thank you so much!

Pbdeng said:
Wooh! I got it to work! Thank you so much!
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No problemmo.

Does this also mean that I can flash any ROMs I want on my phone now?

Yes. But you will have to flash kernels aka boot.img separately using fast boot.

[Q] HTC One S Root OTA Update Questions

Hello Everyone,
As of today, my phone received the new OTA Update for my HTC One S. However, obviously I cannot update due to my phone being rooted. As a person who is still relatively new with rooting (about a month rooted with my phone-first time), I have a couple questions.
First and foremost, have you guys enjoyed the OTA Update so far? I have read about the list of improvements, and they look promising.
Secondly, I obviously want to stay rooted, are there any suggestions about how to update and then have my phone rooted? Preferably without losing my root, but I don't think that's possible.
Thirdly, I saw a thread about the viper (I believe that's what it's called) rom and that could be my possible solution. But, I am rooted on stock rom and have never put on another rom before. So what are your thoughts on this rom?
Thanks in advance
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DrOfLife said:
Hello Everyone,
As of today, my phone received the new OTA Update for my HTC One S. However, obviously I cannot update due to my phone being rooted. As a person who is still relatively new with rooting (about a month rooted with my phone-first time), I have a couple questions.
First and foremost, have you guys enjoyed the OTA Update so far? I have read about the list of improvements, and they look promising.
Secondly, I obviously want to stay rooted, are there any suggestions about how to update and then have my phone rooted? Preferably without losing my root, but I don't think that's possible.
Thirdly, I saw a thread about the viper (I believe that's what it's called) rom and that could be my possible solution. But, I am rooted on stock rom and have never put on another rom before. So what are your thoughts on this rom?
Thanks in advance
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Hey Dr.
I had the same issue and fixed it. I'm enjoying the OTA update...seems snappier and the option to change the menu button and get rid of that eyesore at the bottom of the screen is great....See this post on how to fix it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32069130
All you have to do is download the stock recovery (link located in the post above), rename it "Recovery.IMG" and put it in the /Data/Recoveries folder that your All In One Kit uses. Then open up the All In One root kit, flash the stock recovery, and reboot your phone. It should look the same, and give you the same notification that an update is available. Install the update, and then reflash your TWRP or CWM and reroot (the OTA unroots the device, so you need to reinstall SuperSu.
Thanks to all the people that have helped me do the same!!!

fsustrength said:
Hey Dr.
I had the same issue and fixed it. I'm enjoying the OTA update...seems snappier and the option to change the menu button and get rid of that eyesore at the bottom of the screen is great....See this post on how to fix it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32069130
All you have to do is download the stock recovery (link located in the post above), rename it "Recovery.IMG" and put it in the /Data/Recoveries folder that your All In One Kit uses. Then open up the All In One root kit, flash the stock recovery, and reboot your phone. It should look the same, and give you the same notification that an update is available. Install the update, and then reflash your TWRP or CWM and reroot (the OTA unroots the device, so you need to reinstall SuperSu.
Thanks to all the people that have helped me do the same!!!
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I keep flashing the stock recovery with all-in-one and then downloading and installing the update. Everytime, about halfway it goes back to the red triangle with the exclamation point and restarts the phone five minutes later.
I check software and its still 4.0.3 and the update redownloads. I've tried several "stock recoveries" and the update afterwards... never works.

TheAdictsPunk said:
I keep flashing the stock recovery with all-in-one and then downloading and installing the update. Everytime, about halfway it goes back to the red triangle with the exclamation point and restarts the phone five minutes later.
I check software and its still 4.0.3 and the update redownloads. I've tried several "stock recoveries" and the update afterwards... never works.
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I have also tried the steps and have run into the same problem. All is well when I flash into recovery, but when the phone starts updating about quarter or half-way through it also gives me the same red error message and the phone restarts soon after with no update. I have tried several times with the same problem.
However, thanks fsustrength for the instructions, before I was getting no where, but now I almost got it
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ckpv5 said:
As there are many questions on how to do OTA update & to revert to stock after a device is rooted and bootloader unlocked; I made this simple guide which I hope will help the newbies especially.
NOTE : always do a backup and a nandroid backup before trying any of these.
OTA update:
A) ROM is stock, bootloader unlocked, stock recovery and not rooted.
- just run the OTA update, there is no need to relock the bootloader
B) ROM is stock, bootloader unlocked, CWM recovery and not rooted.
- flash the stock recovery that comes with your RUU, extract the RUU for the stock recovery.
* boot to bootloader
* fastboot flash recovery recovery_signed.img
* fastboot reboot-bootloader
* fastboot erase cache
* fastboot reboot
- run the OTA update
C) ROM is stock, bootloader unlocked, stock recovery and rooted
- download OTA Rootkeeper from Play Store
- run the OTA Rootkeeper and click protect root
- run the OTA update, there is no need to relock bootloader
- Once done, run OTA Rootkeeper and click restore root
D) ROM is stock, bootloader unlocked, CWM recovery and rooted
- download OTA Rootkeeper from Play Store
- run the OTA Rootkeeper and click protect root
- no need to relock bootloader
- boot to bootloader and fastboot flash the stock recovery
- run the OTA update
- Once done, run OTA Rootkeeper and click restore root
E) ROM is custom, bootloader unlocked, CWM recovery and rooted and you have a stock nandroid backup
- flash the stock boot.img if after nandroid restore, you have a bootloop
- flash the stock recovery.img
- relock the bootloader - fastboot oem lock
- boot your device and run the OTA update
F) ROM is custom, bootloader unlocked, CWM recovery and rooted and you don't have a stock nandroid backup
- if you dont have the stock nandroid backup, you need to run RUU
- before you can run the RUU you need to:
* flash the stock recovery.img
* flash the stock boot.img (maybe no need)
* relock the bootloader - fastboot oem lock
* run RUU
- run device setup
- run the OTA update
Flashing RUU to revert to stock or to update your One V after you have a custom ROM installed.
- you must have the correct RUU for your device.
- if you are not sure, download CID Getter from Play Store and run it, it will show your CID.
- with your CID, you may be able to find a correct RUU for your device
then (even though some people may not agree with this, but this will bring no harm and it is noob-proof) do this:
1- flash a stock recovery.img
fastboot flash recovery recovery_signed.img
fastboot reboot-bootloader
fastboot erase cache
2- flash a stock boot.img
fastboot flash boot boot_signed.img
fastboot reboot-bootloader
fastboot erase cache
3- re-lock bootloader
fastboot oem lock
fastboot reboot-bootloader
fastboot erase cache
4- flash RUU
Note : for people with ERROR 155 UNKNOWN ERROR they need to go into HBOOT and select FASTBOOT and run the RUU to revert to stock (thanks Lloir)
And usually:
Error 155 - usually wrong recovery.img /wrong boot.img
Error 140 - wrong bootloader / bootloader unlocked
Error 131 - wrong RUU for your device
Credit to all XDA members that posted all the guides in various forum thread and some from own experience which I compiled here for easy reference.
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Some wonderful person wrote a guide for the One V. Every though it's not the same phone the rules are the same. If these instructions help you click the link and thank the guy for writing it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27288357&postcount=1

Wow, that is a very useful guide right there! However, while reading the guide, Step D is exactly what both TheAdictsPunk and I seem to have done (I'm making an assumption that he did). I did in fact have and used the root keeper app, put it on temporary unroot, and flashed the stock rom and ran the update. Yet, I still run into the problem of the red error sign. I'm sure there is a factor that maybe could cause it to stop, but I cannot put a finger on it.
However, I did notice something while following the procedures of the guide on my phone. When I flash the stock rom on my phone, I have to re-download the system update. While downloading the system update I notice that some of my apps get root permissions from SuperSu in the background, even though in root keeper I temporarily took off root. Rootkeeper also states that my phone is unrooted. Could this problem cause the red error message? If so, any way to fix it?
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DrOfLife said:
Wow, that is a very useful guide right there! However, while reading the guide, Step D is exactly what both TheAdictsPunk and I seem to have done (I'm making an assumption that he did).
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I did! Last night I even tried flashing the recovery image through fastboot instead of the all-in-one kit. Then, even, the recovery image wouldn't flash all the way through... maybe our phones are having a problem with the recovery being reflashed and not the update at all.

I had the same exact issue. I finally got fed up and just flashed the RUU with my computer and then just used the All-in-one program to re-root. I am now enjoying 2.31 and really glad I updated. Obviously the RUU wipes everything, but I had done a full backup using Titanium Backup, and then restored all the important settings and data (like accounts, wifi list, bookmarks, dictionary, etc.) (but not the system apps themselves! ) and it worked out pretty well. Still had some things to adjust, like sounds and such. If you want to keep your SMS's use the built-in backup in the messaging app, then restore after the update.. more reliable than any other app I've tried.

mmceorange said:
I had the same exact issue. I finally got fed up and just flashed the RUU with my computer and then just used the All-in-one program to re-root. I am now enjoying 2.31 and really glad I updated. Obviously the RUU wipes everything, but I had done a full backup using Titanium Backup, and then restored all the important settings and data (like accounts, wifi list, bookmarks, dictionary, etc.) (but not the system apps themselves! ) and it worked out pretty well. Still had some things to adjust, like sounds and such. If you want to keep your SMS's use the built-in backup in the messaging app, then restore after the update.. more reliable than any other app I've tried.
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I'm strongly considering doing that, I can back all my contacts and apps and sms messages via Mobile Go. So, wiping my phone isn't too big of an issue for me because I can restore almost everything I need back on my phone. If you don't mind me asking, where did you get the source that you got the RUU? Also, I have never flashed an ruu before so is their a guide for our phone to flash a RUU?
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DrOfLife said:
I'm strongly considering doing that, I can back all my contacts and apps and sms messages via Mobile Go. So, wiping my phone isn't too big of an issue for me because I can restore almost everything I need back on my phone. If you don't mind me asking, where did you get the source that you got the RUU? Also, I have never flashed an ruu before so is their a guide for our phone to flash a RUU?
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http://www.lastnite.de/RUU_Ville_U_ICS_40_S_HTC_Europe_2.31.401.5.exe
Links to downloads are on that page.. just copy/paste.
Basically start your phone in fastboot, connect to usb, then run the ruu with admin privileges. Make sure you are on stock recovery, and already have the USB drivers installed on your PC (unless you're on Linux.. already has them.. and maybe Mac too?)

mmceorange said:
http://www.lastnite.de/RUU_Ville_U_ICS_40_S_HTC_Europe_2.31.401.5.exe
Links to downloads are on that page.. just copy/paste.
Basically start your phone in fastboot, connect to usb, then run the ruu with admin privileges. Make sure you are on stock recovery, and already have the USB drivers installed on your PC (unless you're on Linux.. already has them.. and maybe Mac too?)
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Well I followed all your steps, and all was going well until I ran across RUU error 130, which states that it was using the incorrect RUU. I looked into it and I found that it was the Europe version, and I have the T-Mobile version of my phone. I'm assuming that this is the issue, am I right? Does the RUU in Europe different than the T-Mobile USA one? If so, are there any RUU's out there that cover my phone? I have searched for them with no luck..
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DrOfLife said:
Well I followed all your steps, and all was going well until I ran across RUU error 130, which states that it was using the incorrect RUU. I looked into it and I found that it was the Europe version, and I have the T-Mobile version of my phone. I'm assuming that this is the issue, am I right? Does the RUU in Europe different than the T-Mobile USA one? If so, are there any RUU's out there that cover my phone? I have searched for them with no luck..
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Ok I figured out a couple answers to my questions. One, the Europe version and the T-Mobile Version are different. That explains why the RUU did not work and gave me Error 130. However, the T-Mobile RUU, RUU_Ville_U_TMOUS_1.84.531.2_R2_Radio_0.16.31501S, is the alternate version that also recieves the OTA update. The RUU is found here http://androidforums.com/one-s-all-things-root/560329-ruu-download-mirrors.html
Then, following the steps, I have successfully updated my phone to the newer softeware!
But of course, I run into another problem.... The CWM recovery does not work for my phone. I flashed the recovery via the HTC One S All-in-One Toolkit. But when getting my phone into recovery mode, it "crashes." (By crashes I mean the phone will go into the htc developmental screen, then turn to black, then reload the normal bootup screen and boot normally up) So, I don't have CWM and I'm unable to root my phone again because I don't have CWM to flash SuperSu. Any thoughts on this?

Rerooting
DrOfLife said:
So, I don't have CWM and I'm unable to root my phone again because I don't have CWM to flash SuperSu. Any thoughts on this?
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I'm still running stock 1.84, but I'm rooted and unlocked. I do not have any kind recovery like CWM or TWRP. You may have to flash a stock recovery image in order to re-install the recovery of your choice. If you want to get rooted again try this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1577831 It's what I used to gain root. It's a rather easy to follow guide. I used this instead of the AIO kit.
I'm going to try and revert to locked and unroot in order to get the update. Wish me luck.

DrOfLife said:
Well I followed all your steps, and all was going well until I ran across RUU error 130, which states that it was using the incorrect RUU. I looked into it and I found that it was the Europe version, and I have the T-Mobile version of my phone. I'm assuming that this is the issue, am I right? Does the RUU in Europe different than the T-Mobile USA one? If so, are there any RUU's out there that cover my phone? I have searched for them with no luck..
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Oh lol sorry about that.
DrOfLife said:
Ok I figured out a couple answers to my questions. One, the Europe version and the T-Mobile Version are different. That explains why the RUU did not work and gave me Error 130. However, the T-Mobile RUU, RUU_Ville_U_TMOUS_1.84.531.2_R2_Radio_0.16.31501S, is the alternate version that also recieves the OTA update. The RUU is found here http://androidforums.com/one-s-all-things-root/560329-ruu-download-mirrors.html
Then, following the steps, I have successfully updated my phone to the newer softeware!
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Awesome!
DrOfLife said:
But of course, I run into another problem.... The CWM recovery does not work for my phone. I flashed the recovery via the HTC One S All-in-One Toolkit. But when getting my phone into recovery mode, it "crashes." (By crashes I mean the phone will go into the htc developmental screen, then turn to black, then reload the normal bootup screen and boot normally up) So, I don't have CWM and I'm unable to root my phone again because I don't have CWM to flash SuperSu. Any thoughts on this?
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I personally have never encountered that before, so I am of little help here. The suggestion above me sounds like the right direction though.

Red triangle error
dc211 said:
Some wonderful person wrote a guide for the One V. Every though it's not the same phone the rules are the same. If these instructions help you click the link and thank the guy for writing it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27288357&postcount=1
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I'm using method C, i still get that red triangle error. Also i can't get the ruu for my phone. I'm desperate can you please help me.

lonegunman0 said:
I'm using method C, i still get that red triangle error. Also i can't get the ruu for my phone. I'm desperate can you please help me.
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Im getting the same thing. Even after flashing "stock recovery" that i got from the modaco link, I can't update or even go into the stock recovery...I would absolutely love to enjoy the update too!

skidmarc11 said:
Im getting the same thing. Even after flashing "stock recovery" that i got from the modaco link, I can't update or even go into the stock recovery...I would absolutely love to enjoy the update too!
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If this many people are running into this problem, maybe we can get a role call of whose using what method, if not stock ROM what custom they are using, and what carrier they us?
I'm stock ROM, Stock Recovery, and Tmobile US. I used Method C.
I'm wondering if they have changed the update in a way that is preventing some people from updating. like it detects a certain file before update or something idk. I'm not any sort of advanced android user so I am probably wrong, but it's the first thing that comes to mind. Otherwise, maybe they sent out a bad update file, but I feel like that probably wouldn't be the case since it's been happening for a couple days now.
Thought's ideas anyone, or am I alone in any of these thoughts?

Stock rom
mylegiscramped said:
If this many people are running into this problem, maybe we can get a role call of whose using what method, if not stock ROM what custom they are using, and what carrier they us?
I'm stock ROM, Stock Recovery, and Tmobile US. I used Method C.
I'm wondering if they have changed the update in a way that is preventing some people from updating. like it detects a certain file before update or something idk. I'm not any sort of advanced android user so I am probably wrong, but it's the first thing that comes to mind. Otherwise, maybe they sent out a bad update file, but I feel like that probably wouldn't be the case since it's been happening for a couple days now.
Thought's ideas anyone, or am I alone in any of these thoughts?
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skidmarc11 said:
Im getting the same thing. Even after flashing "stock recovery" that i got from the modaco link, I can't update or even go into the stock recovery...I would absolutely love to enjoy the update too!
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Yes i agree about the file detection. I'm running stock rom but i think i've just realised my problem. Although i have a stock rom my problem is that the stock rom i'm running is deodexed. I read somewhere that if the stock rom is tweaked in any way or if any bloatware is deleted you can't get OTA updates.
Hope this helped

Wouldn't an RUU fix any of those problems?

Yes it would
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[Q] Can you OTA update a Nexus 5 and keep root?

Ok so I just recently got my hands on a Nexus 5 which I rooted with CF Auto Root and relocked the bootloader with Bootunlocker for security (I'm guessing I should unlock before the update). I see reports surfacing of a possible 4.4.3 update in the near future. So before that happens I want to figure out the best practice for updating a N5 with CF Auto Root. It stands to reason I'll do a full backup so that's a given.
I'm not new to rooting. Done it a few times. Just haven't had a device that gets regular OTAs in my country so it hasn't come up.
Is there a way to update so that root is preserved? Obviously I'd like to keep the process as simple as possible but if I have to work from scratch it's not the end of the world.
As I understand it, you can do normal OTA as long as it's stock but you lose root. In that case, does the OTA relock the bootloader or will it stay unlocked? Which then basically means a new root which wipes the device.
Or perhaps it's better to ask what the best procedure for updating a stock Nexus 5 with CF Auto Root.

Everything that you have ever wanted to know about OTA can be found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/info-nexus-5-ota-help-desk-t2523217

Ah thanks. Appreciate it.

generally no, after ota you lose root. but there are apps that will save your root so that you keep root after an update.

I've been looking at Survival Mode in Super SU and RootKeeper but there seems to be some question as to their success.

Reaper1242 said:
I've been looking at Survival Mode in Super SU and RootKeeper but there seems to be some question as to their success.
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ive never used any since i dont ota, i update my custom rom as soon as its updated, but ive heard of success with rootkeeper. but it doesnt matter, it literally takes 3 minutes to root a nexus the right way(via fastboot).

Yea, I should use fastboot in future.

Reaper1242 said:
As I understand it, you can do normal OTA as long as it's stock but you lose root. In that case, does the OTA relock the bootloader or will it stay unlocked? Which then basically means a new root which wipes the device.
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The stock Android OS update will not relock the bootloader. So, once you apply the OTA.zip file in recovery, all you will need to do is reflash the SuperSU, and you are done.
(Note that depending on your system status, you may not be able to apply the OTA.zip directly - for instance, if you have updated/deleted system files etc, in which case, you will first need to go back to stock - refer to the link that @mistahseller provided for details about how to go back to stock)

jj14 said:
The stock Android OS update will not relock the bootloader. So, once you apply the OTA.zip file in recovery, all you will need to do is reflash the SuperSU, and you are done.
(Note that depending on your system status, you may not be able to apply the OTA.zip directly - for instance, if you have updated/deleted system files etc, in which case, you will first need to go back to stock - refer to the link that @mistahseller provided for details about how to go back to stock)
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you would need to flash a custom recovery first, then supersu in your custom recovery.

Thanks everyone for the responses.You've made everything much clearer.

simms22 said:
you would need to flash a custom recovery first, then supersu in your custom recovery.
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Good point. I assumed that op had installed a custom recovery when he rooted, but that is not always the case.

Ok so I'm going to sideload myself. Been a while so I just want to confirm the process so I don't screw up.
I'm using TWRP
Obviously I'll do a NANdroid and probably Titanium as well.
1) Unlock bootloader with Bootunlocker
2) Connect device to PC
3) Boot into TWRP recovery and go to Advanced > ADB Sideload
4) type adb sideload update.zip (or whatever I call the file)
5) reboot device and check if it's working
6) reboot to recovery and reflash superuser.zip
I think that's it. Is there anything else I need to be aware of? If I'm right it should then be updated, rooted and in the same state before I updated.

I am in the same situation. I am currently rooted with a unlocked boot loader. When 4.4.3 comes along I plan to upgrade it. I have only rooted and have CWM no custom ROM. I know o cannot perform a OTA update. So do I copy the update zip (4.4.3) and just flash in CWM? Is this correct, and if so do I lose root/ boot loader. Thanks. I have read the thread above but do not understand
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dec1153 said:
I am in the same situation. I am currently rooted with a unlocked boot loader. When 4.4.3 comes along I plan to upgrade it. I have only rooted and have CWM no custom ROM. I know o cannot perform a OTA update. So do I copy the update zip (4.4.3) and just flash in CWM? Is this correct, and if so do I lose root/ boot loader. Thanks. I have read the thread above but do not understand
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Flash stock system.img and flash recovery.img and then do the update.zip from the stock recovery..
If you don't want to flash, then make sure you have removed all the modifications you have done to system apps. If you don't remember then I would certainly recommend flashing stock images...
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[Q&A] EXE/ZIP RUU M8_VZW 5.0.1 (s-off only)(newest)

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Before posting, please use the forum search and read through the discussion thread for EXE/ZIP RUU M8_VZW 5.0.1 (s-off only)(newest). If you can't find an answer, post it here, being sure to give as much information as possible (firmware version, steps to reproduce, logcat if available) so that you can get help.
Thanks for understanding and for helping to keep XDA neat and tidy!

billblack said:
Long time lurker. I read and can use Google . Regardless, it failed and scared the crap out of me as it wouldn't boot. Got back into boot loader, fired up EXE again and it seems to have finished the 2nd time. A few more grey hairs, but all is good my friend. Thanks.
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Same thing happened to me! Failed the first time around, worked the second. Booting now and it appears to be working (Android is upgrading...)

So when I use the ruu for sdcard and I reboot after I get send to recovery and can't boot system. Why is that?

EXE/ZIP RUU M8_VZW 5.0.1 Help
I installed the RUU zip via SD last night. I was running Dottat's EXE/ZIP RUU M8_VZW 4.4.4 (s-off only) with stock recovery. When I flashed the 5.0.1 RUU zip, I have a couple Partition Fails (unfortunately, I don't remember exactly which ones). However, in the time since I installed it, I saw all the new messages in the thread about others having the same Partition Fail errors. Even with the errors, my phone booted fine. I am having some weirdness though (major lag after sending a message in Facebook Messenger app....a reboot resolves the lag for a little while, then it returns; Verizon Caller ID app won't load; logging in to Swiftkey keyboard's cloud with my Google account fails with an error). So I see the new zip to flash the L Hboot BEFORE flashing the RUU. Obviously too late for that. Also, I installed TWRP recovery in place of the stock recovery.
So my question is: How should I proceed with trying to get the 5.0.1 to flash with no errors? Should I install Dottat's 4.4.4 (s-off), which will get me back to stock recovery...then let it boot up. Then flash the L hboot, and then finally flash the 5.0.1 RUU? Or are there other alternatives?
Thanks!

mbarcus said:
I installed the RUU zip via SD last night. I was running Dottat's EXE/ZIP RUU M8_VZW 4.4.4 (s-off only) with stock recovery. When I flashed the 5.0.1 RUU zip, I have a couple Partition Fails (unfortunately, I don't remember exactly which ones). However, in the time since I installed it, I saw all the new messages in the thread about others having the same Partition Fail errors. Even with the errors, my phone booted fine. I am having some weirdness though (major lag after sending a message in Facebook Messenger app....a reboot resolves the lag for a little while, then it returns; Verizon Caller ID app won't load; logging in to Swiftkey keyboard's cloud with my Google account fails with an error). So I see the new zip to flash the L Hboot BEFORE flashing the RUU. Obviously too late for that. Also, I installed TWRP recovery in place of the stock recovery.
So my question is: How should I proceed with trying to get the 5.0.1 to flash with no errors? Should I install Dottat's 4.4.4 (s-off), which will get me back to stock recovery...then let it boot up. Then flash the L hboot, and then finally flash the 5.0.1 RUU? Or are there other alternatives?
Thanks!
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Run it once more. The failed PU was for the data partition. If you run it once more it will be successful. I think the root cause here is the changes to partitions that occurred with this OTA and that the likely solution is to flash the L hboot first before doing the RUU to L. Once on L firmware/OS you can use the RUU again with no issues.
One big dang speed bump in all the fun.

dottat said:
Run it once more. The failed PU was for the data partition. If you run it once more it will be successful. I think the root cause here is the changes to partitions that occurred with this OTA and that the likely solution is to flash the L hboot first before doing the RUU to L. Once on L firmware/OS you can use the RUU again with no issues.
One big dang speed bump in all the fun.
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Can I run the RUU again using TWRP? Or do I need to be on Stock Recovery? And thank you for your help!!

mbarcus said:
Can I run the RUU again using TWRP? Or do I need to be on Stock Recovery? And thank you for your help!!
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recovery doesnt' weigh in here. You can install it from bootloader using the SD card method.

How do I flash L Hboot? with twrp? do I have to flash it or can I just use the ruu to get to the new 5.0.1 firmware? thanks

So you asked to report our experience ...
First, let me say thanks. I am now on 5.0.1 and back to root thanks to your work and willingness to share.
Background:
I was stock 4.4.4, unlocked, s-off with TWRP recovery when the VZW 5.0.1 OTA hit. I had a number of bloatware apps frozen through Titanium Backup and probably due to a combination of all that I couldn't load the update. Reflashing boot, system and recovery still wouldn't let me take the OTA, so I ended up using HTC SyncManager repair to make Verizon happy. I got the update, kept unlocked and s-off, but lost root.​
Recovering Root:
After finding your stuff, I first tried loading through the bootloader with your zips in the root of my SD card (128 GB, single partition, exFAT). No go for either the hboot or the RUU. both gave me a "Wrong image" message and only allowed reboot to system.
So the next step was to try flashing with TWRP. I flashed TWRP 2.8.5.0 via fastboot and then let it do all it's stuff (Busybox, SuperSU, SD Card Fix, etc.) , rebooted to system just to have everything catch up to itself, and then rebooted to TWRP recovery. I then flashed the hboot and the RUU through TWRP, rebooted, and I'm back to full root.​
So again, thanks! A happy camper backing everything up with Titanium again and hoping that you really wanted to hear a real-world experience.

A_Levis said:
First, let me say thanks. I am now on 5.0.1 and back to root thanks to your work and willingness to share.
Background:
I was stock 4.4.4, unlocked, s-off with TWRP recovery when the VZW 5.0.1 OTA hit. I had a number of bloatware apps frozen through Titanium Backup and probably due to a combination of all that I couldn't load the update. Reflashing boot, system and recovery still wouldn't let me take the OTA, so I ended up using HTC SyncManager repair to make Verizon happy. I got the update, kept unlocked and s-off, but lost root.​
Recovering Root:
After finding your stuff, I first tried loading through the bootloader with your zips in the root of my SD card (128 GB, single partition, exFAT). No go for either the hboot or the RUU. both gave me a "Wrong image" message and only allowed reboot to system.
So the next step was to try flashing with TWRP. I flashed TWRP 2.8.5.0 via fastboot and then let it do all it's stuff (Busybox, SuperSU, SD Card Fix, etc.) , rebooted to system just to have everything catch up to itself, and then rebooted to TWRP recovery. I then flashed the hboot and the RUU through TWRP, rebooted, and I'm back to full root.​
So again, thanks! A happy camper backing everything up with Titanium again and hoping that you really wanted to hear a real-world experience.
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There's just one problem with this all.... lol...
you can't flash the RUU or hboot zips through TWRP.

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dottat said:
There's just one problem with this all.... lol...
you can't flash the RUU or hboot zips through TWRP.
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Well, XDA does call me a "Junior Member". Probably a good reason for that.
Looking back at the TWRP log, it seems you are right and my attempts to flash hboot and RUU from TWRP failed (but any indication of that flashed by so fast that I couldn't tell). So does that mean that my fastboot flash of TWRP recovery opened up everything that I needed to get root directly from TWRP (installation of BusyBox and SuperSU)?

A_Levis said:
Well, XDA does call me a "Junior Member". Probably a good reason for that.
Looking back at the TWRP log, it seems you are right and my attempts to flash hboot and RUU from TWRP failed (but any indication of that flashed by so fast that I couldn't tell). So does that mean that my fastboot flash of TWRP recovery opened up everything that I needed to get root directly from TWRP (installation of BusyBox and SuperSU)?
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Most recoveries will offer to flash su on an unrooted rom. You can either do that or manually flash the newest supersu.zip After you boot up you can install busybox from an app like this... https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=stericson.busybox
So what rom/firmware are you currently on?

After using the RUU, it finished with a successful update. I booted into recovery to create a backup, but now when I try to boot back into the OS, it goes back into TWRP like it would if I were booting into recovery. Anyone have any ideas?
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Nickchapstick said:
So when I use the ruu for sdcard and I reboot after I get send to recovery and can't boot system. Why is that?
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After looking for a little bit, it appears I'm having a similar issue.

klw7890 said:
After using the RUU, it finished with a successful update. I booted into recovery to create a backup, but now when I try to boot back into the OS, it goes back into TWRP like it would if I were booting into recovery. Anyone have any ideas?
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After looking for a little bit, it appears I'm having a similar issue.
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You were able to boot up the OS successfully the first time right?

dottat said:
You were able to boot up the OS successfully the first time right?
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Yes. It booted to OS the first time, after the RUU completed, but now it just boots back into recovery.

klw7890 said:
Yes. It booted to OS the first time, after the RUU completed, but now it just boots back into recovery.
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Stock recovery?

dottat said:
Stock recovery?
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Initially, yes. I flashed the latest TWRP. I think I might have flashed the wrong version. I'm rerunning the RUU. I really appreciate the help.
If it was the right version by chance, do you have any idea what could've caused that?

klw7890 said:
Initially, yes. I flashed the latest TWRP. I think I might have flashed the wrong version. I'm rerunning the RUU. I really appreciate the help.
If it was the right version by chance, do you have any idea what could've caused that?
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Did you use flashify? Reason I ask is that app still thinks it's a Sprint phone. Use the twrp I have posted in the op.

dottat said:
Did you use flashify? Reason I ask is that app still thinks it's a Sprint phone. Use the twrp I have posted in the op.
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"That app" being TWRP Manager?

[HELP] HTC on e8sd MM update install ERROR

hey guys, yesterdy I got a notification for android 6.0 upgrade and it was a ~100mb file for preparation so i downloaded it and charged my battery and tapped to install it, it reboots and wants to start installing but then goes to recovery menu and gives an error
the phone is all stock, no root or bl unlock or anything
I attached the error msg below:
it's m8sd not e8sd, mistyped in topic

Might be due to bad zip file! Download the update again and try!

Kianush said:
hey guys, yesterdy I got a notification for android 6.0 upgrade and it was a ~100mb file for preparation so i downloaded it and charged my battery and tapped to install it, it reboots and wants to start installing but then goes to recovery menu and gives an error
the phone is all stock, no root or bl unlock or anything
I attached the error msg below:
it's m8sd not e8sd, mistyped in topic
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I had a similar error as yours doing exactly the same thing but mine was a e8sw running LP5 Sense6 rooted stock with xposed.
Even when I uninstalled xposed and disabled supersu, I still could not install the upgrade.
Finally managed to get the upgrade by going all the way back to stock and allow the OTA updates all the way up the MM6 update. Took me nearly 2 days to do that.
I have taken clean twrp backups of all the stock updates and will try and post them here soon.

generalugh28 said:
I had a similar error as yours doing exactly the same thing but mine was a e8sw running LP5 Sense6 rooted stock with xposed.
Even when I uninstalled xposed and disabled supersu, I still could not install the upgrade.
Finally managed to get the upgrade by going all the way back to stock and allow the OTA updates all the way up the MM6 update. Took me nearly 2 days to do that.
I have taken clean twrp backups of all the stock updates and will try and post them here soon.
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thank you for the information, but as I mentioned in op my phone is already all stock, I havent ever moded or rooted or anything, it's stock locked bootloader

Have the exact same issue. My device is compelitely stock. Tried flashing the recovery from the downloaded OTA but still got the sama error. Hopefully someone will be able to resolve the issue.

if you have problems in installing OTA updates, follow these steps
1. check if your CID and MID are matching each other. they should be both for same region. mine are for vietnam. mec_dugl / HTC__057
2.Flash an stock RUU from http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-e8/help/htc-one-e8-mid-cid-ruu-ota-twrp-t2903210
3.Skip all registeration process and directly go to update menu.
4.this is a 3 stage update process: a small update for some applications/another 100 MB update for making device ready for main update!! / at last 1 GB main update . each one should be downloaded and installed separately.
5. after downloading 100MB update, DO NOT restart. coneect your phone to PC and go to download folder on phone internal memory, there should be a zip file containing updates(sadly I forgot file name), copy it on your PC and extract recovery.img from it.
6. boot your phone into bootloader and flash stock recovery you've extracted using fastboot.
7. now you have complete stock ROM. go to setting/update again and follow update process.
8.after updating you may flash twrp and supersu.
9. I don't know why, but there is a good chance that after messing with system files in MM you get stuck in several kinds of bootloops and soft-breaks. Don't worry; all you should do is going to recovery and wiping caches. sometimes you need a factory reset too. also have in mind that a complete boot after changing system files may take up to 15 minutes even without wipes.

@sam5154 well thank you for the info, Im gonna try these steps except, I will try to download again and flash recovery and try it before flashing a RUU and lose everything
but I hope it works anyway, btw mine is also vietnam region.

sam5154 said:
if you have problems in installing OTA updates, follow these steps
1. check if your CID and MID are matching each other. they should be both for same region. mine are for vietnam. mec_dugl / HTC__057
2.Flash an stock RUU from http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-e8/help/htc-one-e8-mid-cid-ruu-ota-twrp-t2903210
3.Skip all registeration process and directly go to update menu.
4.this is a 3 stage update process: a small update for some applications/another 100 MB update for making device ready for main update!! / at last 1 GB main update . each one should be downloaded and installed separately.
5. after downloading 100MB update, DO NOT restart. coneect your phone to PC and go to download folder on phone internal memory, there should be a zip file containing updates(sadly I forgot file name), copy it on your PC and extract recovery.img from it.
6. boot your phone into bootloader and flash stock recovery you've extracted using fastboot.
7. now you have complete stock ROM. go to setting/update again and follow update process.
8.after updating you may flash twrp and supersu.
9. I don't know why, but there is a good chance that after messing with system files in MM you get stuck in several kinds of bootloops and soft-breaks. Don't worry; all you should do is going to recovery and wiping caches. sometimes you need a factory reset too. also have in mind that a complete boot after changing system files may take up to 15 minutes even without wipes.
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Hi, thanks for this. I will try this once i got home.
But i have one questions, mine is Vietnam MEC_DUGL with stock lollipop 5.0.2. The RUU only available for stock lollipop 5.0.1. Can I use this RUU or should I look for specific RUU for lollipop 5.02?
Thanks!

Kianush said:
@sam5154 well thank you for the info, Im gonna try these steps except, I will try to download again and flash recovery and try it before flashing a RUU and lose everything
but I hope it works anyway, btw mine is also vietnam region.
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If you gonaa try that, then remeber to unroot and uninstall xposed, and you can use titanium backup for restoring your apps and data of course.

sam5154 said:
If you gonaa try that, then remeber to unroot and uninstall xposed, and you can use titanium backup for restoring your apps and data of course.
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in op I already told that I dont have root or anything and the phone is all stock and it was like this from the begining, that means no xposed or anything else

Kianush said:
in op I already told that I dont have root or anything and the phone is all stock and it was like this from the begining, that means no xposed or anything else
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Have you tried the suggestion above? Let me know the result! Thanks man

sam5154 said:
If you gonaa try that, then remeber to unroot and uninstall xposed, and you can use titanium backup for restoring your apps and data of course.
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and how to check for this mec_dugl / HTC__057?
the first part is ok it shows that in booloader menu, but how to check for HTC__057??

Kianush said:
in op I already told that I dont have root or anything and the phone is all stock and it was like this from the begining, that means no xposed or anything else
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Kianush said:
and how to check for this mec_dugl / HTC__057?
the first part is ok it shows that in booloader menu, but how to check for HTC__057??
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Here you go :
If you want more information, use ADB (if you don't how to get it going, use the search on the forum or Google about it).
While you phone is connected to your PC, type adb reboot bootloader and wait for your phone to reboot into bootloader mode. Once there, you can perform fastboot commands like getvar. Type fastboot getvar all and you will see all the information about the phone, including the product variable which lists the model you have.
Source : http://forums.androidcentral.com/htc-one-m7/320871-how-check-htc-one-variant-model.html

bataskhayal said:
Here you go :
If you want more information, use ADB (if you don't how to get it going, use the search on the forum or Google about it).
While you phone is connected to your PC, type adb reboot bootloader and wait for your phone to reboot into bootloader mode. Once there, you can perform fastboot commands like getvar. Type fastboot getvar all and you will see all the information about the phone, including the product variable which lists the model you have.
Source : http://forums.androidcentral.com/htc-one-m7/320871-how-check-htc-one-variant-model.html
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Thank you for the info
btw I did go through the steps of downloading the 110mb update and flashing its recovery before pressing install and that didnt work and still gives OP error
so I guess I have to use RUU but not gonna do that for a while and also Im not so sure it'll work because the phone is already factory stock!

Kianush said:
Thank you for the info
btw I did go through the steps of downloading the 110mb update and flashing its recovery before pressing install and that didnt work and still gives OP error
so I guess I have to use RUU but not gonna do that for a while and also Im not so sure it'll work because the phone is already factory stock!
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Yes bos, i also did the recovery trick but still cant make it work. So the only solution we havent try is to flash RUU which i doubt also will make it work since my phone also factory stock. So i guess will stay in 5.0.2 for a while.

Kianush said:
Thank you for the info
btw I did go through the steps of downloading the 110mb update and flashing its recovery before pressing install and that didnt work and still gives OP error
so I guess I have to use RUU but not gonna do that for a while and also Im not so sure it'll work because the phone is already factory stock!
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Hi, I have managed to finally update my Vietnam HTC One E8 dual SIM (MEC_DUGL) to Android 6.0. The problem that cause the error is the error recovery file, hence I re-install the RUU to get the correct recovery.img file. Below are the steps :
Note : Try with your own risk
1. My device is currently stock 5.0.2 no root and locked. Before starting the update process please make sure to backup all of your important data. Im using the stock HTC backup software, when you restore your device after you finished your update process, it will re-install your currently installed apps , contacts, settings, etc.
2. Download RUU for your device here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-e8/help/htc-one-e8-mid-cid-ruu-ota-twrp-t2903210
I downloaded :
[Vietnam][DUAL][M8sd][mec_dugl][CID HTC__059][OPAJ20000] :
[Lollipop 5.0.1][2.35.425.2] : LINK
Seems not match with my current software (5.0.2), but eventually it will do the magic.
3. Flash RUU. NOTE : You will lose all of your data in your internal phone memory. Make sure to backup all of your important files.
Steps:
1) Download RUU.
2) Rename RUU to 0PAJIMG.zip (the first character is a zero, NOT A LETTER O)
3) Put renamed 0PAJIMG.zip on your external_SD
4) Boot into your bootloader and make sure your in hboot and let it update its RUU.
5) No PC, no adb, no fastboot, no terminal is needed, just a root explorer to rename and transfer the renamed RUU file to external_sd
6) After you have updated your RUU, make sure to remove the 0PAJIMG.zip from your external_sd because it will ask to update your RUU everytime your reboot to your bootloader which it is technically supposed to do but its unnecessary after you have done it once (unless you are planning on flashing RUU again).
7) Done!
Source : http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-e8/help/htc-one-e8-mid-cid-ruu-ota-twrp-t2903210
4. Reboot your phone, now your phone is back to factory stock, connect it to wifi, no need to set up any account, just go directly to software update from Settings > About > Software Updates. Just install all the available software updates (5.0.2 > 6.0 part 1 > 6.0 part 2).
5. BOOM! Your HTC One E8 now runs Android 6.0.1 Marshmallow.
6. Restore your phone from the stock HTC Backup Software.
7. Done