Today I was taking pictures with my S6 using the PRO mode and was fiddling with the AF option, when I noticed something interesting. When I drag the Focus slider from Infinity towards Macro, the camera ZOOMs IN while also adjusting the focus. The ZOOMED in image in the view finder looks absolutely lossless.
Here's the thing, it stays like that till the time my finger is on the slider. The moment I lift my finger it goes back to its normal state. The zoomed area in the viewfinder is comparable to the 4X Digital Zoom that our Phone usually does but with much HIGHER QUALITY! There's no way I can click without leaving the slider or take a screenshot, but I will try to record my screen and post the video if possible. I know this sounds rubbish. Any thoughts??
If you want take the picture with zoom, take it without zoom first. Then crop it.
It will way better than pre-zoomed picture.
forumber2 said:
If you want take the picture with zoom, take it without zoom first. Then crop it.
It will way better than pre-zoomed picture.
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not sure if you comprehend..
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not sure if you comprehend..
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I understood what you want to mean.
While you took the picture with zoom applied, phone applies extra processing to picture (idk why) and it causes to picture look worse than it should be.
While adjusting the AF on manuel mode, what you see is an non-proccessed pure image. That's why you see it "better".
So, if you want to take the picture w/ zoom applied with better quality, we need less proccess.
That's why I said that you should take picture without zoom, then crop it.
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I understood what you want to mean.
While you took the picture with zoom applied, phone applies extra processing to picture (idk why) and it causes to picture look worse than it should be.
While adjusting the AF on manuel mode, what you see is an non-proccessed pure image. That's why you see it "better".
So, if you want to take the picture w/ zoom applied with better quality, we need less proccess.
That's why I said that you should take picture without zoom, then crop it.
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I see the quality of a zoomed image saved in RAW format is similar to that you get in Auto Mode if not worse, since there is no post-processing applied here. But the live preview I mentioned in my earlier post was much better than both. Also, do you get a pinkish tint in your images when shooting in Manual mode under extreme low light scenes? Thanks for your response.
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I see the quality of a zoomed image saved in RAW format is similar to that you get in Auto Mode if not worse, since there is no post-processing applied here. But the live preview I mentioned in my earlier post was much better than both. Also, do you get a pinkish tint in your images when shooting in Manual mode under extreme low light scenes? Thanks for your response.
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There is always a proccess applied when you press the "shoot" button. Maybe even in RAW mode.
If I set shutter speed to too long, picture has pinkish tint as you said. My sensor is ISOCELL btw.
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Taking photos with the TD2 sucks a**.
options like brightness oder ISO dont change anything. all the pictures look the same.
but especially when its dark id like to increase exposure time. or how about taking quickshots with focus to infinity instead of waiting to infinity for the autofocus to adjust?
is there any application able to do that?
edit: just saw this thread. missed it on first search. sry.
but still nothing new?
Hi laureus,
I don't know the settings about ISO or changing other things but i have extra camera capture modes, and i attached the cab for you.
The limitations are more down to the hardware in my opinion, no app is going to make much better pictures. In good light, with low ISO, the TD2 actually takes decent pictures (in my opinion again), as good as you have a right to expect from a phone/PPC.
or how about taking quickshots with focus to infinity instead of waiting to infinity for the autofocus to adjust?
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This isn't going to happen. You can't preset such a cheap lens/focussing mech to infinity, it just hasn't got the accuracy to go back to the same place every time. Autofocus every time is unfortunately essential for sharp pictures.
I know its not exactly what he asked about . BUT
qik freeeking rox on the htc pure .. ive used it since my blackjack and i love it . if ya need a video streaming to web app .
thanks for your answers.
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The limitations are more down to the hardware in my opinion, no app is going to make much better pictures. In good light, with low ISO, the TD2 actually takes decent pictures (in my opinion again), as good as you have a right to expect from a phone/PPC.
This isn't going to happen. You can't preset such a cheap lens/focussing mech to infinity, it just hasn't got the accuracy to go back to the same place every time. Autofocus every time is unfortunately essential for sharp pictures.
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yeah, im quite happy with pictures taken in normal light situations. it is just when you get to the evening hours some more exposure time would be nice.
even my old nokia n70 could do that. why not the much newer td2?
well, you cant have it all.
What I'd like to see in a camera app is something that lets me flip it over and use the volume buttons as a camera switch. Perhaps, using the left button (volume down) to autofocus, and the right button to actually shoot the picture.
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What I'd like to see in a camera app is something that lets me flip it over and use the volume buttons as a camera switch. Perhaps, using the left button (volume down) to autofocus, and the right button to actually shoot the picture.
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this can be done with key remapper.
i mapped the "back button" to shoot a picture when the camera is active. if camera is not active it still works as a back button.
Can you tell me how did you do this???I did not understand how it works.
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I too have the same problem of dark photos,
are also the owner of a diamon and photos in dim light is much better than the diamon2,
where you could change the registry for this problem?
laureus said:
this can be done with key remapper.
i mapped the "back button" to shoot a picture when the camera is active. if camera is not active it still works as a back button.
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can u tell me ur config?
icant make it work , thx
Hi,
I am just not able to get satifactory pictures from the phone. I have played with the settings and everything and read about the White balance and all but still no dice.
The part that bothers me the most is that I have it set on Max resolution and the picture size is still 500 kB. What gives?
I dont think ROM makes a difference as I have the same results on Sprint stock as now on Juicy R10.
Anyone care to share their settings in the camera settings if they feel they get good results from their camera.
Thanks
One thing you should make sure of is when you select "3M" for the large picture setting, click "done" and dont go back to look at the other settings on the resolution menu. Doing that may revert is to whatever was last selected on that first page. My white balance is set to auto and widescreen is on. I personally dont think the camera is that good on here but if you are in the right light and setting, your pictures should be fine. What is actually happening with your pictures?
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One thing you should make sure of is when you select "3M" for the large picture setting, click "done" and dont go back to look at the other settings on the resolution menu. Doing that may revert is to whatever was last selected on that first page. My white balance is set to auto and widescreen is on. I personally dont think the camera is that good on here but if you are in the right light and setting, your pictures should be fine. What is actually happening with your pictures?
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Hi,
Thanks for the advise. The pictures are just too yellow in my case. I have played with the white balance but they dont seem to pop. What is the file size of the pictures you are taking? Mine is 500kB set at 3M resolution. Doesnt make sense.
I think my TP1 took far better pictures than my TP2... odd..
hindibuff said:
Hi,
Thanks for the advise. The pictures are just too yellow in my case. I have played with the white balance but they dont seem to pop. What is the file size of the pictures you are taking? Mine is 500kB set at 3M resolution. Doesnt make sense.
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did you try the lightbulb icon white balance setting (indoors)? that usually fixes the yellow for me...the Auto is useless, you need to set white balance for each situation. My outdoor shots are usually too blue so I use the Tungsten setting sometimes.
I have noticed that pretty much every rom I have tried (juicy, energy, S3) all have had very poor camera quality, even when on the highest settings. If I revert to the stock rom, the quality is good again.
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I have noticed that pretty much every rom I have tried (juicy, energy, S3) all have had very poor camera quality, even when on the highest settings. If I revert to the stock rom, the quality is good again.
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now that is interesting. why would that be? I am curious to learn what the differences might be.
I do agree that the tp1 did take much better pics than the tp2 has managed so far, but then again, it took a while for me to tweak tp1 before I was satisfied with the picture quality.
Anyone care to share the size of the file it produces for each picture?
jowaldo said:
I have noticed that pretty much every rom I have tried (juicy, energy, S3) all have had very poor camera quality, even when on the highest settings. If I revert to the stock rom, the quality is good again.
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I was pretty disappointed with the camera feature (thought it was an HTC thing) but after flash MR X's latest 3/5/10 and going back to 2/18/10 ROM, the app he puts in makes my camera pretty snappy.
At whatever default setting is there I get 300-700k size files.
Hope that helps someone.
JPG uses compression, so picture size is determined by the amount of detail in the image. The more detail, the larger the size. A picture of a totally blank surface will be the smallest.
The auto whitebalance is horrible on this camera. I get better results manually choosing whatever white balance mode makes white actually look white.
I've also been disappointed with the camera on this phone. Older Blackberry Curves and Pearls take better photos (even though they are at lower resolution). I will say the autofocus is nice and allows the camera to work with close things like taking pictures of written information and barcodes.
I had this fix on my Touch Pro. I applied it to my Touch Pro 2- worked great.
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I had this fix on my Touch Pro. I applied it to my Touch Pro 2- worked great.
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What all does it do?
what does that do? I tried the old panaramic cab file it crashed out the phone and i had do a full rest of the phone as it kept giving me errors in services.exe
I got rid of the program since it did not work with windows 6.5
I am not a photgrapher by any means, but I have been very pleased with the clairty of my TP2 pics. I set it to 3mp - widescreen - quality to superfine - storage to card -thats it. I agree it blues a little sometimes, but this is helped (not completely) with white balance changes. I think this cam is much better than my TP cam, but again I am no pro. Also keep in mind this is a cameraPHONE - you will get way better results out of a devoted device but for point and shoor this thing is more than adequate for me.
PS - over time the little clear plastic window of my back panel hazed up - I popped it out so the camera lens inside is exposed and the clarity of my pics POPPED! - unfortunately now my lens is exposed and I am guessing dust can now get under my cover, but it works well for now.
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What all does it do?
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it fixes this:
http://www.fuzemobility.com/got-yellow-photos-fix-it/
Doesn't work on 6.5? Dang....
Turn off widescreen photos if you want to get maximum resolution. You'll get 2048x1536 (3.14 megapixels) instead of the widescreen res of 2048x1216 (2.49 megapixels).
I'm using the camera and I'm noticing one thing. On any other device I've used, you can touch on a dark or light area of the screen and the camera will focus accordingly. Either brightening or darkening. Any ideas why that doesn't work on the GS3?
It's harder to describe than I thought. Let me know if that doesn't make sense.
It works on CM10, I thought it was the same on TW too... been a while since I've been on TW.
I've never seen that on either our Incredible, Incredible 2 or Galaxy S III phones - touching on the active camera screen sets focus to where you pointed.
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ooofest said:
I've never seen that on either our Incredible, Incredible 2 or Galaxy S III phones - touching on the active camera screen sets focus to where you pointed.
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he's talking about tap to focus and exposure.. and yes that was indeed a feature on the Incredible camera. say that you are taking a photo of a cloudy sky.. tap on the darker area and the camera would adjust the exposure on that spot to lighten it up a bit
i thought it did work on the S3 camera.. but now you mention it...
i'll try to take some photos at the Yankees/Red Sox game tomorrow night.. should be a cloudy day and a good time to test.
EDIT: i've turned on 'Auto contrast' under setting, and it did a similar effect.. now when you pan your camera to a darker area.. it should adjust itself (no need to tap!) :highfive:. you'll also notice that your 'Exposure value' setting has been greyed out, since it's adjusting it for you automatically now.
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he's talking about tap to focus and exposure.. and yes that was indeed a feature on the Incredible camera. say that you are taking a photo of a cloudy sky.. tap on the darker area and the camera would adjust the exposure on that spot to lighten it up a bit
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I've never heard of this, admittedly - even the manual only states that tapping the camera display will focus on that spot. Holding it down takes a picture with that spot as the point to concentrate focus, exposure, etc.
Took out my Incredible and tried different metering modes, but tapping only changed focus. Are you talking about holding a finger down to take the picture, as I described above? This might be semantics, then.
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I've never heard of this, admittedly - even the manual only states that tapping the camera display will focus on that spot. Holding it down takes a picture with that spot as the point to concentrate focus, exposure, etc.
Took out my Incredible and tried different metering modes, but tapping only changed focus. Are you talking about holding a finger down to take the picture, as I described above? This might be semantics, then.
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radiohead's got it right. ooofest, I can take a video of my Incredible doing it if you like. I tried the Auto Contrast feature but it's not having the same effect. Thanks for all the responses.
EDIT: here's a quick, shoddy video demo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f09wOV7WXQ&feature=channel&list=UL
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I tried the Auto Contrast feature but it's not having the same effect.
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hmm.. i did have default settings before turning "Auto contrast" on. maybe there's something you had changed that's preventing it? i know how when you turn on "Anti-shake", it prevents being able to take a photo while in video mode.. maybe something like that is happening.
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hmm.. i did have default settings before turning "Auto contrast" on. maybe there's something you had changed that's preventing it? i know how when you turn on "Anti-shake", it prevents being able to take a photo while in video mode.. maybe something like that is happening.
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I've tried it with anti-shake on and off, I tried it while adjusting the exposure, tried with auto-contrast on, I tried it with all different kind of scene selections. It does work well just by tilting the camera towards the darker or lighter area but then it's cutting some of what I wanted to take a picture of. I did try my friends original Galaxy from 2 years ago and it works like a charm. Not sure what's wrong. I'm making a bigger deal of it than I should but when it's a feature I've used so regularly for so long, it's hard to let go. I appreciate your responses.
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radiohead's got it right. ooofest, I can take a video of my Incredible doing it if you like. I tried the Auto Contrast feature but it's not having the same effect. Thanks for all the responses.
EDIT: here's a quick, shoddy video demo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f09wOV7WXQ&feature=channel&list=UL
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Oh, this was my poor perception in this conversation, then.
To me, that Incredible's tap response was part of the refocusing feature when tapping our camera display: it setup to take a new picture at that spot, with all that entailed, though I admittedly cared most about it weighting focus . . . and then all aspects of the picture to that area of concentration (especially if I had metering mode set to Spot), regardless of whether I held my finger down on that spot to take the picture or tapped and then clicked the optical button. In either case, the Incredible adjusts the picture and not just the focus, yes.
The Galaxy S III TouchWiz camera is often more quick to take a picture, so I've tried different contrast and other modes to hope it will expose the shot well enough. Usually that's the case, but sometimes I need to readjust between Auto-focus mode, White Balance, Metering mode, etc. - I don't touch the display to take the picture these days, because it's usually close enough for my needs. But, I can see what you are missing.
Thanks,
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Only to me, even with master AI off, the camera changes mode by itself (without announce it)?
When I try to focus an object too much close, i see that objective changes... I'm almost sure that use "super macro" mode without showing the pop up.
Someone else is facing this issue??
maurizio de maio said:
Only to me, even with master AI off, the camera changes mode by itself (without announce it)?
When I try to focus an object too much close, i see that objective changes... I'm almost sure that use "super macro" mode without showing the pop up.
Someone else is facing this issue??
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It's not an issue, that's the expected behavior, when taking pictures the phone AI recognizes some scenes and adjust camera parameters to some presets, for example, focus on the sky and a preset "Blue Sky" will be enabled, focus a small river or running water and you will get "Silky water" mode.
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It's not an issue, that's the expected behavior, when taking pictures the phone AI recognizes some scenes and adjust camera parameters to some presets, for example, focus on the sky and a preset "Blue Sky" will be enabled, focus a small river or running water and you will get "Silky water" mode.
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But i turned off AI theoretically... what you're saying shouldn't happen with AI off
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But i turned off AI theoretically... what you're saying shouldn't happen with AI off
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Seems that certain things like Super-Macro are still automatic with or without AI enabled, but it will not change image settings or detect scenes without AI, so for example of the blue sky, it will not say that without AI, or if you take a photo of a dog it will not know it is a dog
But if you go too close to an object for normal lens to focus on, it will switch to Macro lens
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Seems that certain things like Super-Macro are still automatic with or without AI enabled, but it will not change image settings or detect scenes without AI, so for example of the blue sky, it will not say that without AI, or if you take a photo of a dog it will not know it is a dog
But if you go too close to an object for normal lens to focus on, it will switch to Macro lens
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I hate this thing
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I hate this thing
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I have to agree with you, this phone is complete garbage, I have the same issue, I turn off master AI and it's still switching to super macro just without showing the pop up, and no my picture is an up close shot but still within the main sensors focus range and it still switching to the crappy detailed cropped wide angle lens, it's so bad using this phone the experience has been terrible, was my first Huawei phone and I will never get another one again... I can't even take a simple photo, only method that works is trying to click your shot before it switches lens
See below example at the same distance from subject in low light, the image I want to be able to capture all the time is the bright normal one (just about managed to snap before it switches me, which isn't always easily possible), the one it's trying to force me into shooting is that dark garbage, that's how stupid this phone is that it tries to force me to take that instead of the other, it's been this way since I've had this phone, it's just plain and simply bad...
I know this is an old post, but nowhere else ever talked about it, so I think poster here is completely right, it does this in daylight also obviously, which makes it harder to notice, but will cause the photo to have worse background separation and a lot worse detail
v0 HaVoK 0v said:
I have to agree with you, this phone is complete garbage, I have the same issue, I turn off master AI and it's still switching to super macro just without showing the pop up, and no my picture is an up close shot but still within the main sensors focus range and it still switching to the crappy detailed cropped wide angle lens, it's so bad using this phone the experience has been terrible, was my first Huawei phone and I will never get another one again... I can't even take a simple photo, only method that works is trying to click your shot before it switches lens
See below example at the same distance from subject in low light, the image I want to be able to capture all the time is the bright normal one (just about managed to snap before it switches me, which isn't always easily possible), the one it's trying to force me into shooting is that dark garbage, that's how stupid this phone is that it tries to force me to take that instead of the other, it's been this way since I've had this phone, it's just plain and simply bad...
I know this is an old post, but nowhere else ever talked about it, so I think poster here is completely right, it does this in daylight also obviously, which makes it harder to notice, but will cause the photo to have worse background separation and a lot worse detail
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Just what I was looking for. I have the Huawei P30, and I really like to take photos of my self-made food. What I have noticed is that even when I turn off the Master AI, the camera STILL automatically enhances the color vibrance of the images. This also happens when I take photos outdoor, especially the sky and trees.
I really hate it because it looks fake! Girls may want their picture to be vibrant and all, but I am more of a realistic kind of guy. I realize that shots from iPhone are much much better. Even though they seem kinda dull compared to the same images taken from the Huawei P30 (or any other Android), pictures from iPhone are the closest things to what you see in real life.
It's pretty annoying that the Huawei P30 is the first phone I bought for myself, by my own money. Maybe the next time I need a phone, I will switch to Apple for better/realistic photography.
But then again, iOS is boring and suffocating AF.
Argg... choosing the right smartphone is tough AH.
Has anyone else also noticed photos come out with weird, massively boosted brightness and everything when taken with 2x zoom or higher on stock camera? Strange thing is even at 1.9x zoom everything is fine but 2x and beyond the photo is basically ruined because of this. Very annoying.
HDR and other enhancements are turned off, yet this occurs.
Doesn't happen on GCam. Any idea/solutions? Thanks
Tried here. No issue. And 2x zoom photo from stock cam was better than GCam 8.3 for me.
Didi you activate HDR and IA options in stock cam?
Yes they're all deactivated. No problem upto 1.9x zoom, but as soon as 2x zoom is engaged, there's a sudden although small change on viewfinder white balance. And final photos look extremely bright and noisy compared to 1.9x and below, as if some weird filter is put on. I've downgraded the camera but still happens.
Btw, bootloader is unlocked, not sure if that's got anything to do with it.
Its interesting if you don't have this problem. What's ur software channel and build number? Thanks
Without this bug, you'll generally get better zoomed images on stock camera because it'll use 64mp crop instead of only 16mp recognized by GCam. But this bug ruins it.
Unzoomed though, GCam's HDR+ is still the best.
Just discovered this thread.
Yes, I have the same problem. But it looks like the effect is not the same everytime. Maybe depending on light (indoors vs. outdoors)?
I noticed it happens when i zoom in in worse scenes. It could be that the automatic camera mode is overcompensating by cranking the iso way too high. Have you tried using the pro camera mode?
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I noticed it happens when i zoom in in worse scenes. It could be that the automatic camera mode is overcompensating by cranking the iso way too high. Have you tried using the pro camera mode?
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Yes, but I don't think pro mode uses 64mp crop like auto mode, just a crop of 16mp, which doesn't have much detail that's required during zoom. Also it's annoying trying to switch to pro mode everytime.