[POLL] Add application manager - L Speed

One of ideas is adding application manager to L Speed.
A manager which will give you ability to force stop, uninstall, deny backround services, and maybe something else right from L Speed.
Simple vote with yes or no, and write more suggestions, but please do a research first (what is able to do with Androids package manager).
I'll not implement it until we don't have 100+ positive votes.
Thanks for support.

I'm not sure about the uninstall feature since every android phone (to my knowledge) has that built in. Maybe if it can uninstall apps that aren't uninstallable by default, if that doesn't cause any troubles. But an easy force stop would be good if it showed only running apps. And managing background services and stuff is great to add. Even being able to change or just view app permissions.

@nan0s7 it'll be able to uninstall system app too.

That'd be good to have then. Allows people to debloat their phones.

This is an excellent idea and aligns well with L Speed's mission. App behavior has a huge influence on device performance and can quickly overwhelm other 'optimizations'. Many users lack the skills/tools to responsibly manage system apps on a rooted device. Your challenge will be to curiate the actions that can be taken (especially with core system apps) while presenting the choices in an easy to digest UI.

Very interesting if we will manage also app that start with the phone at the beginning

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i vote no for application manager, i think it's bloat
we have settings for that, i mean will you always open lspeed to force stop an app ?
you could always drag and drop the app on the homescreen shortcut to open that app settings then force stop it...
i'm just saying

Hi, all! My positive vote to an App Manager in LSpeed. Some time ago I came across with this project: https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-uu-apppurifier-t3071441. Though the project is dead now, the idea was great. You could control all your apps from one clear and easy-to-understand interface. App permission control is fundamental to have a good Android experience: connection to data or wifi, autostart, foreground service, notifications, GPS access, keep awake, etc. I know XDA is a place made by and for devs, but I think that helping no-dev users is also important. Kingroot, Samsung’s app manager, Clean Master, and others show that people want to have more control over their devices, they just don't know how. Please, let's help them! Thanks!
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Providing common user with an easy-to-understad interface would help them understand which apps slowdown their phones.

Certainly feel adding a well designed (operstive phrase) app manager would make L Speed more appealing to 'mainstream' users. That said, there's a pretty strong argument that rooted users are not mainstream. Also, number of rootable devices/ROMs is quickly diminishing.

I think prevent it running in background will also stop it on boot.

I'll cover all possible in this, we just need more up votes (up to 100) this will give me more time to finish some undone parts in L Speed

I very much think it is a good idea for lspeef and i hope it happens in the comeing months

Good idea, all pro here.
As suggestion to check please checkout https://github.com/MrBIMC/RunInBackgroundPermissionSetter/releases
I have this running since a long time together with LSpeed, they team up very well.

Related

Ability to switch Keyboard based on APP

Hello,
I am looking for an app which allows you to designate which keyboard you want to use in which apps. Preferably it will default to the default keyboard then you can manually change the keyboard for certain apps.
For example, I would like to use swiftkey x when in messaging, whatsapp, and the browser, but use swype with everything else.
I know this should be possible as this app does show the ability to switch keyboards based on certain parameters: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=830177
If you know of any app please do share or if you can create this i am sure thousands of people would be very happy.
Thanks!
I too would like an app like that!
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Wow just today I started thinking that an app like this would be extremely useful. I hope there actually is one, out of not at least someone here could write one. I'd gladly party for one if it works!
You can use Tasker to display the input method select popup when you load/exit certain apps (actually, the parameters can be nearly anything you can think of). Android does not allow apps to change the input method automatically. So you will still have to select the input method from the popup.
App in the Works
Hello. I was looking for something to do exactly this and found this thread. Since I cannot find anything to do this, I am writing an app that will do it. I have a somewhat hard-coded proof of concept app that does this right now. I only have a Samsung N7000 Note phone with ICS 4.0.4 on TouchWiz, so have only tested there. This will require root but should, I think, work on almost any device - there is nothing specific to my device. So I will be looking for early testers who have root and are able to let me know how things look. If interested, post here and PM your email to me so I can get you on the list. Cheers!
whitedavidp said:
Hello. I was looking for something to do exactly this and found this thread. Since I cannot find anything to do this, I am writing an app that will do it. I have a somewhat hard-coded proof of concept app that does this right now. I only have a Samsung N7000 Note phone with ICS 4.0.4 on TouchWiz, so have only tested there. This will require root but should, I think, work on almost any device - there is nothing specific to my device. So I will be looking for early testers who have root and are able to let me know how things look. If interested, post here and PM your email to me so I can get you on the list. Cheers!
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Hey, I'm running Jellybam 4.2.1 on an AT&T galaxy s3, I'd love to be a tester for you on the keyboard app. But just to make sure we are on the same page, the app you're making will "task" a specific app to use a user defined keyboard? Like, I want the samsung regular ol keyboard when using the messaging app, but I want Kii keyboard to be the default keyboard whenever Glowfly (sms pop up app) notifies me of a new message, Glowfly seems to have some weird tendencies, like when using the samsung keyboard, the return key only sends the text, does not "return" or move the cursor below the already typed text. but when i use kii keyboard with glowfly, the return will put the cursor below the text i already have (this is what i want), but when using kii keyboard in the messaging app (stock app) it will send the message rather than move the cursor below the input text. does this make sense?
Let me know if this is unclear or if you have anything you want tested on a device, thanks!
Kapak13 said:
Hey, I'm running Jellybam 4.2.1 on an AT&T galaxy s3, I'd love to be a tester for you on the keyboard app. But just to make sure we are on the same page, the app you're making will "task" a specific app to use a user defined keyboard? Like, I want the samsung regular ol keyboard when using the messaging app, but I want Kii keyboard to be the default keyboard whenever Glowfly (sms pop up app) notifies me of a new message, Glowfly seems to have some weird tendencies, like when using the samsung keyboard, the return key only sends the text, does not "return" or move the cursor below the already typed text. but when i use kii keyboard with glowfly, the return will put the cursor below the text i already have (this is what i want), but when using kii keyboard in the messaging app (stock app) it will send the message rather than move the cursor below the input text. does this make sense?
Let me know if this is unclear or if you have anything you want tested on a device, thanks!
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Following is the write-up I have put together so far for my app's listing on the Play Store. I think it outlines what the app currently can do and I believe it speaks directly to your needs. If you are interested in testing, please PM me your email address.
**** R E Q U I R E S -- R O O T ****
**** R E Q U I R E S -- B U S Y B O X ****
**** M U S T - BE - INSTALLED - AS - SYSTEM - APP ****
Thank you for READING the following BEFORE commenting/reviewing:
For most android devices but tested by the developer only on Samsung Note N7000 with ICS and JB.
Install as a normal app in the normal way. But to operate fully, you MUST install as a system app. I recommend using this app here on the Play store. But other techniques will work as well. You must undo this prior to uninstalling or updating.
After using on your device in "free" mode, please consider purchasing the Pro Upgrade to unlock other features.
Please email me from the link on this page with questions, comments, or suggestions. I cannot respond to reviews left by users so that is not the best channel to reach me.
There are piles of keyboards/input methods out there for Android devices. But it stands to reason that some keyboards are much better for some tasks than others. Imagine a hypothetical app which never accepts alphabetic input. When running this app, you don't need a full QWERTY keyboard - something like a 10-key pad would be much more efficient. So you may find yourself regularly switching between keyboards whenever you use a certain app. But doing so in Android is something of a pain involving at least several steps each time.
Keyboard Master exists to save you this time and hassle! It permits your device to "remember" (called a mapping) that you want to use a specific keyboard each time you run a specific app. And when that app is started, Keyboard Master takes care of making the keyboard swap and then swapping back when the app is no longer being used.
Keyboard Master operates in a default (free) mode that permits you to establish a single mapping at a time so you can test how it works on your device. This single mapping may be adequate for some users and if so, please enjoy the app at no charge.
Users with more advanced needs will appreciate the Pro Upgrade which you can purchase within Keyboard Master (see the options menu). Purchasing this upgrade will enable the following additional features of Keyboard Master:
Removes the limit of only one app-to-keyboard mapping imposed in the free version of Keyboard Master. There will be no limit imposed.
Enables the optional, automatic capture of app-to-keyboard mappings as you change the selected input method while running an application. Of course, the manual creation of mappings found in the free version is still supported.
Enables the on-demand backup/loading of settings and mappings to/from your device's SD card.
It will also unlock other, advanced features that may be added in the future. I can envision future support for device orientation in mappings and special treatment when a hardware keyboard is in use, to name a few.
All of this power and convenience comes at a technical price. Not only does this app require ROOT, but it also must be installed as a "system" app (as opposed to a normal or downloaded app) because only a system app is permitted to swap keyboards in this way. So once you have downloaded Keyboard Master, you MUST move it to the location on your device where system apps reside. And it must be moved back prior to uninstall or update.
I want to thank the author of this app who's published code hinted at how Keyboard Master could accomplish all of this.
**** M U S T - BE - INSTALLED - AS - SYSTEM - APP ****
**** R E Q U I R E S -- B U S Y B O X ****
**** R E Q U I R E S -- R O O T ****
whitedavidp said:
Following is the write-up I have put together so far for my app's listing on the Play Store. I think it outlines what the app currently can do and I believe it speaks directly to your needs. If you are interested in testing, please PM me your email address.
**** R E Q U I R E S -- R O O T ****
**** R E Q U I R E S -- B U S Y B O X ****
**** M U S T - BE - INSTALLED - AS - SYSTEM - APP ****
Thank you for READING the following BEFORE commenting/reviewing:
For most android devices but tested by the developer only on Samsung Note N7000 with ICS and JB.
Install as a normal app in the normal way. But to operate fully, you MUST install as a system app. I recommend using this app here on the Play store. But other techniques will work as well. You must undo this prior to uninstalling or updating.
After using on your device in "free" mode, please consider purchasing the Pro Upgrade to unlock other features.
Please email me from the link on this page with questions, comments, or suggestions. I cannot respond to reviews left by users so that is not the best channel to reach me.
There are piles of keyboards/input methods out there for Android devices. But it stands to reason that some keyboards are much better for some tasks than others. Imagine a hypothetical app which never accepts alphabetic input. When running this app, you don't need a full QWERTY keyboard - something like a 10-key pad would be much more efficient. So you may find yourself regularly switching between keyboards whenever you use a certain app. But doing so in Android is something of a pain involving at least several steps each time.
Keyboard Master exists to save you this time and hassle! It permits your device to "remember" (called a mapping) that you want to use a specific keyboard each time you run a specific app. And when that app is started, Keyboard Master takes care of making the keyboard swap and then swapping back when the app is no longer being used.
Keyboard Master operates in a default (free) mode that permits you to establish a single mapping at a time so you can test how it works on your device. This single mapping may be adequate for some users and if so, please enjoy the app at no charge.
Users with more advanced needs will appreciate the Pro Upgrade which you can purchase within Keyboard Master (see the options menu). Purchasing this upgrade will enable the following additional features of Keyboard Master:
Removes the limit of only one app-to-keyboard mapping imposed in the free version of Keyboard Master. There will be no limit imposed.
Enables the optional, automatic capture of app-to-keyboard mappings as you change the selected input method while running an application. Of course, the manual creation of mappings found in the free version is still supported.
Enables the on-demand backup/loading of settings and mappings to/from your device's SD card.
It will also unlock other, advanced features that may be added in the future. I can envision future support for device orientation in mappings and special treatment when a hardware keyboard is in use, to name a few.
All of this power and convenience comes at a technical price. Not only does this app require ROOT, but it also must be installed as a "system" app (as opposed to a normal or downloaded app) because only a system app is permitted to swap keyboards in this way. So once you have downloaded Keyboard Master, you MUST move it to the location on your device where system apps reside. And it must be moved back prior to uninstall or update.
I want to thank the author of this app who's published code hinted at how Keyboard Master could accomplish all of this.
**** M U S T - BE - INSTALLED - AS - SYSTEM - APP ****
**** R E Q U I R E S -- B U S Y B O X ****
**** R E Q U I R E S -- R O O T ****
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Hey thank you soooooo much for replying and getting me this info! I gave it a try and it works flawlessly! I was able to sucessfully convert my apps to system apps and they run perfectly and I am able to get the performance I was looking for! thank you! keyboards work amazingly!
ANYONE WHO WANTS TO TRY THIS- DO IT! but remember!!!!!- its not the fault of the developer if YOU mess up your device! Research what you're doing before you do anything!
Kapak13 said:
Hey thank you soooooo much for replying and getting me this info! I gave it a try and it works flawlessly! I was able to sucessfully convert my apps to system apps and they run perfectly and I am able to get the performance I was looking for! thank you! keyboards work amazingly!
ANYONE WHO WANTS TO TRY THIS- DO IT! but remember!!!!!- its not the fault of the developer if YOU mess up your device! Research what you're doing before you do anything!
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I am pleased I could help out. But I am confused. I don't think I have sent you my app (Keyboard Master) yet. Changing my app to a system app is needed but I would not recommend changing apps to system apps without really good cause. Keyboard Master needs this capability, but most apps should not benefit from this at all. If you do want to test Keyboard Master, PM me with your email address. Also, I will shortly be posting a video of Keyboard Master at work on my Samsung Note N7000 to YouTube. I will post that link here for those who are interested. Cheers!
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You can now check out a video of my new Keyboard Master app in action on YouTube. Sorry for the spotty video quality. Cheers!
whitedavidp said:
I am pleased I could help out. But I am confused. I don't think I have sent you my app (Keyboard Master) yet. Changing my app to a system app is needed but I would not recommend changing apps to system apps without really good cause. Keyboard Master needs this capability, but most apps should not benefit from this at all. If you do want to test Keyboard Master, PM me with your email address. Also, I will shortly be posting a video of Keyboard Master at work on my Samsung Note N7000 to YouTube. I will post that link here for those who are interested. Cheers!
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You can now check out a video of my new Keyboard Master app in action on YouTube. Sorry for the spotty video quality. Cheers!
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hahahahaha I misread some of your reply to me and when I quickly grabbed /system/appmover I converted some of my apps and forgot to come back to your post to finish reading everything and I confused your (keyboard master) for the Tasker mods I had already set for my keyboards because when I converted Tasker and the keyboard I wanted to use, everything became instantly responsive and it removed the problems I was having prior, thus leading me to imagine I had your app and things worked. Sorry about the mistake, I am still interested in trying out your app tho. I believe I had sent you a pm with my email. If not lemme know and I'll send it
Kapak13 said:
hahahahaha I misread some of your reply to me and when I quickly grabbed /system/appmover I converted some of my apps and forgot to come back to your post to finish reading everything and I confused your (keyboard master) for the Tasker mods I had already set for my keyboards because when I converted Tasker and the keyboard I wanted to use, everything became instantly responsive and it removed the problems I was having prior, thus leading me to imagine I had your app and things worked. Sorry about the mistake, I am still interested in trying out your app tho. I believe I had sent you a pm with my email. If not lemme know and I'll send it
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Ah ha. I think I read somewhere that Tasker does have an addon (which also requires to be a system app) that will do some (perhaps all) of what my app does. If you are already a Tasker user (I am not), that may be the way to go. No sense in cluttering up your device with extra apps and complexity (and possibly incompatibilities).
whitedavidp said:
Ah ha. I think I read somewhere that Tasker does have an addon (which also requires to be a system app) that will do some (perhaps all) of what my app does. If you are already a Tasker user (I am not), that may be the way to go. No sense in cluttering up your device with extra apps and complexity (and possibly incompatibilities).
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Hahaha well looks like this accident turned into a good thing, I have removed Tasker to give your app a try, if it is the same turn out, I'll pm you about it. Maybe your app runs better/faster/lighter. Would be nice to find out, thank you for pointing out the possible clash with Tasker and Keyboard Master
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whitedavidp said:
Ah ha. I think I read somewhere that Tasker does have an addon (which also requires to be a system app) that will do some (perhaps all) of what my app does. If you are already a Tasker user (I am not), that may be the way to go. No sense in cluttering up your device with extra apps and complexity (and possibly incompatibilities).
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And yes, Tasker uses SecureSettings to dive deeper into the phone directories to include input methods as tasks, so once both are made system apps, they run flawlessly. So in the short run, your recommendation of getting /system/app mover was the fix for my current issue.
Keyboard Master App Does This and is Ready!
You may be interested in my Keyboard Master app on the Play store. It does just what the OP requested. Cheers!

[Q] Privacy issues with Google Now

If you have recently tried to update your Google Now, you may have seen the new requested permissions. These include, but are not limited to, access to your phone's microphone at any time without your permission, and access to your phone's camera (assuming front-facing and rear) at any time without your permission.
Questions: Why is Google attempting to completely dissolve any sort of privacy in order to use Google Now? It is a handy tool, but is a slap in the face in the "all-or-nothing" permission request it puts forth. This is incendiary and needs to be stopped. Google does not need the ability to see and hear me in the privacy of my home.
Followup - Is this something that can be circumvented by an application, or baked into the ROM's our dev's make? Is there any way that the tech geniuses here at XDA can fight the good fight in this struggle for end-user privacy?
Is anyone else creeped out by this???
Pdroid?
Pffffffffffffffffffftt.
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Pdroid?
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+1 - I won't run any ROM without pdroid - it requires a lot of effort up front, but is entirely worth it and it's an excellent way to learn how to secure your device. You'll be amazed at the unnecessary access some apps can get by default.
The Feds (Google counts as part since they operate under them) could always do that since the 90s even with the phone off. It was always denied but now it's just out in the open kinda how your blood was stored in data banks at birth since the 60s and it was denied by the government until Mr. George w. Bush said they can do it legally. Nothing to be creeped out by, just have a few weapons and lots of ammo ready.
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http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2006/12/can_you_hear_me/
http://www.childrenscolorado.org/wellness/info/parents/23018.aspx
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I imagine the microphone at all times might be for a future release so you can say 'google' at any time and the search box will come up, which would be pretty sweet. Not sure about the camera though. I ended up disabling now because the maps process took too much battery for how little I used the service.
That's creepy, but I guess that's the price we pay for Google's "free" services because nothing is really free. The only way to stop is not using it.
I always get paranoid with these types of services. Havent even tried Google Now since getting it in the OTA JB update. The whole idea about it tracking you, learning your preferences to suggest you search results, etc. Just seems a little spooky.
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Best advice: Get a dumb phone, don't use Google or any search engine on your home computer...the list is endless....
So, I got a PDroid compatible ROM. The interface isn't that intuitive to me. Can someone tell me what the different icons mean?
Clearly the green check mark means that this particular permission has been granted, and the circle/slash means blocked. What about the "?" and "AB"?
When would one use "Notify on access" or "Log access"?
What's the difference between Save, X, and Trash?
Are we suppose to be suprised that an app that has the capability to run our entire phone by voice and predict our movement and actions has permission to access all our movements and actions?
If privacy is an issue, you either shouldn't use it or at the least use PDroid. But that's Google MO, they give you convenience at the price of your privacy.
I believe "?' means there are no settings for that app in place yet. I forget what AB is. There should be a legend somewhere in there? *currently on a ROM without PDroid so I cant look it up*
corbn89 said:
Are we suppose to be suprised that an app that has the capability to run our entire phone by voice and predict our movement and actions has permission to access all our movements and actions?
If privacy is an issue, you either shouldn't use it or at the least use PDroid. But that's Google MO, they give you convenience at the price of your privacy.
I believe "?' means there are no settings for that app in place yet. I forget what AB is. There should be a legend somewhere in there? *currently on a ROM without PDroid so I cant look it up*
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Lol... Internet tough guy. Are we to assume Google Now needs video and or audio feed to tell me what time I leave for work? I'm no oracle, but that answer, corbn89, is a resounding NO. Thanks for your relevant post. Pfft...
Replying to my useless post (considering my info was wrong) with another useless post. Real classy.
Anyways, did you find out what AB was?
The options in PDroid 2.0 are allow, deny, prompt when asking for permission. Prompting would be used with an app where you wouldn't want to allow it all the time but spoofing your info may result unwanted results (e.g. locations)
AB appears to be a spoofing mechanism as it allows for a new value to be inputted by the user. For instance, when I go into the FB app and click on the AB next to Phone Number, it allows another string to enter (I entered a viable fake number). However, it appears that ANY change to permissions renders the application (FB in this case) unusable as it will FC before it even opens. Any change to permissions automatically defaults the app to be labeled as "Untrusted". I have not been able to get PDroid functional at all. Any ideas???
If you don't like it, don't use it. Obviously, they aren't going to "spy" on you with your camera and mic. What a joke.
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Application Behavior When Running In Background

Ok here's the situation:
When i drive i use the Tomtom Go mobile app as "main" sat-nav.
Then i use camsam plus which runs in the background and, with a small widget, warns me of speedcameras.
I also wanted to use the icoyote app at the same time but there's a problem: the app stays in the background when there are no speedcameras ahead (which is fine) but when i'm approaching one it will "take over" the screen to warn me (so it's a visual and audible warning).
I was wondering if there's a way (there's none in the app settings) to keep the app in the background while approaching a speedcamera and leave the tomtom on screen (with only the speedcamera audible warning enabled).
I was also wondering if there's a way to keep waze in the background (the same way of the icoyote app) and keep the audible alerts (police, hazard ecc..) working.
Thanks in advance
Anyone???
No. You'd need to request the function from the app dev.
You're battery is going to be very angry with you. Lol
No, with the app in the background, it will not produce sounds... Unless it's made that way, like Google navigate.
I doubt anyone here can help.... The app developers would need to add that functionality, based said above. ?
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Don't speed and get rid of that one app. Solves that. ?
Darth said:
You're battery is going to be very angry with you. Lol
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I always charge my phone while driving so that's not a problem.
Anyway thanks for all the replies.... i'll just use tomtom and camsam then.
I was hoping at least for a workaround for the waze app (considering that millions of people are using it i thought that someone found a way to make warnings work in background).
And for waze i'd only need police warning in the background... i couldn't care less about hazards, fixed speedcameras or traffic since tomtom live services are way better.
Something you might consider is to try using split screen mode. That way, the visual alert takes up only half the screen. Don't know if it's available on stock Nexus 5., probably not, so you'd need root access, Xposed framework, and the XMultiWindow plug-in. A good tutorial is here:
http://nexus7.wonderhowto.com/how-t...-windows-your-nexus-7-simultaneously-0151231/

Ok....i give...need some solid information.

I have googled and searched my fingertips to the bone. Whenever i ask a technical question, i get answers from the clueless and the blind. I am beginning to hate this game.
So here we go. Stock android 4.4.2 ....rooted. How do you control which apps autostart and load in the background? Right now I have been trying to kill the Music app. Nothing works. It always restarts. So that means there is a sticky setting in some file somewhere in the system that needs to be edited that more than likely can not properrly be controlled from the childish controls android offers. In windows this is controlled in the registry and the startup process. Where is this in android? Why does no one share this information?
Yes i know it's dangerous. Yes i know not to putts around in the operating system. But if youre rooted, give us the data to control things.
So i await a learned response that probaly only one of the "developers" can answer. Because it sure as s€£%t ain't out there to be found.
Signed, royally frustrated
I'm reminded of that saying "You can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar." Not sure why your posts are so charged but many seasoned developers and posters aren't going to engage in conversation with someone who uses condesending and self righteous tones.
I've never seen detailed posting of how it works, nor do I care to know, but by installing Greenify you can effectively control what you wish to control. Greenify allows you to hibernate applications keeping them asleep until manually called.
Some applications have associated services that are used by other parts of the system or other applications and therefore stay loaded to provide that service. If you also install Xposed Framework it will allow Greenify to inject itself further to keep applications that you choose to hibernate from being called upon by other applications (facebook for example has services that often get called upon by other applications for various reasons and so it can be hard to keep hibernated).
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I'm reminded of that saying "You can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar." Not sure why your posts are so charged but many seasoned developers and posters aren't going to engage in conversation with someone who uses condesending and self righteous tones.
I've never seen detailed posting of how it works, nor do I care to know, but by installing Greenify you can effectively control what you wish to control. Greenify allows you to hibernate applications keeping them asleep until manually called.
Some applications have associated services that are used by other parts of the system or other applications and therefore stay loaded to provide that service. If you also install Xposed Framework it will allow Greenify to inject itself further to keep applications that you choose to hibernate from being called upon by other applications (facebook for example has services that often get called upon by other applications for various reasons and so it can be hard to keep hibernated).
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I am sorry. I did not intentionally want to come off as charged or spraying vinegar. Quite the opposite. But I have found, after reading tons of post, that we are living in the land of the blind and hardly anyone with sight is actually participating or for that matter even providing a modicum of usefull data. Beginning to think that I don't blame them.
It seems, after deep searching and research that children are actually in charge. What other explanation can you give for an operating system that is struggling with "basic" features found in DOS or windows 3.1 from 20 years ago. Similar to the slow evolution of linux, itself which only now, barely, is win xp like in its features after decades as a skeletal nightmare to load and setup.
You may not have caught the news a few months ago, but Samsung was floating the idea of abandoning android for a flavored and skinned version of linux for future devices, both phones and tablets.p, starting with the China market.
Tell me that Microsoft did not head that off by providing reciprocal licensing to Samsung for windows 10 to abandoning linux. Would not be suprised if we start seeing win10 handsets in the near future here.
Once android looses support from major manufacturers, then it is DEAD.
Read every other post and you will see the lament about the quality of google store apps.
So when I ask a specific, technical question requiring a precise answer.....which requires actual proframming skill.....which has yet to appear...you can see how the lack of response to that colors the situation.
If I offended anyone, I apologize. I get excited sometimes. Repeatedly slamming ones head against the wall, figuratively tends to make you anxious.
At this rate, my raw participation on these boards may be curtailed if I continue with this sense of useless effort.
Sorry to make anyone upset. You can let the kids back in the room. I think there is ice cream.
Have you considered freezing the processes you want to prevent from running with Titanium Backup?
ShadowLea said:
Have you considered freezing the processes you want to prevent from running with Titanium Backup?
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Titanium backup would work. The other option since you are rooted is to just remove the offending music app. I don't mind the samsung music app, but I don't find it absolutely necessary either. You could also uninstall the updates and force stop the app. That should also keep it from starting.
Another option that I haven't looked at completely but might work is the app "tasker" that lets you assign certain apps to start only when you want them too. So you could have the music app start only when you tap on media files. But I haven't tried this myself.
The problem currently with asking technical questions about the note pro is that it's a low selling device from 2014 so it just doesn't get much action on the forums anymore. It's a bummer for such a great device but that's how it is.
mjkurke said:
Titanium backup would work. The other option since you are rooted is to just remove the offending music app. I don't mind the samsung music app, but I don't find it absolutely necessary either. You could also uninstall the updates and force stop the app. That should also keep it from starting.
Another option that I haven't looked at completely but might work is the app "tasker" that lets you assign certain apps to start only when you want them too. So you could have the music app start only when you tap on media files. But I haven't tried this myself.
The problem currently with asking technical questions about the note pro is that it's a low selling device from 2014 so it just doesn't get much action on the forums anymore. It's a bummer for such a great device but that's how it is.
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Low selling are not the words. More like abandoned. Samsung has moved away. My questions where android specific. "Freezing" apps, using a convoluted set of more apps to control unwanted apps, ridiculous. It is all ridiculous. Either root gives control or it does not.
I want full control, what runs, what doesn't, what runs in the background. Is that not why we root? So a comprehensive list of whats what WOULD RREEEAAAALLLLYYY HELP.
I am alone in the wilderness screaming at the trees demanding to know why it rains.
Do you understand?
Options like freezing in Titanium or using Greenify have already been addressed. Tasker is good for starting things but not so good at keeping things killed, not the proper tool to use for the job of keeping apps from loading.
My strategy:
1) Freeze anything that's safe to freeze that I know I'll never use in Titanium first. That way they never pre-cache into memory.
2) Greenify applications that I rarely use so that they don't pre-cache, taking care not to greenify applications that need to stay loaded to operate properly (like email clients, weather apps or messaging apps).
In the end on a clean boot my application/precache list is full of my commonly used apps. I worry not about how much free RAM I have, as long as the list of apps in RAM/cache is populated with the stuff that I commonly use.
NOW, all of that said if you're looking for something that works like windows startup manager then installing Xposed Framework and then BootManager is the way to go. I've done this in the past but find that employing freezing and greenify is good enough for my own needs so I've stopped.
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Low selling are not the words. More like abandoned. Samsung has moved away. My questions where android specific. "Freezing" apps, using a convoluted set of more apps to control unwanted apps, ridiculous. It is all ridiculous. Either root gives control or it does not.
I want full control, what runs, what doesn't, what runs in the background. Is that not why we root? So a comprehensive list of whats what WOULD RREEEAAAALLLLYYY HELP.
I am alone in the wilderness screaming at the trees demanding to know why it rains.
Do you understand?
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I am starting to suspect you have greatly misunderstood the meaning of root access. From what it sounds like, you seem to think it miraculously gives you access to settings and functions that non-rooted users can't see. Which is why you can't seem to get the answers you seek.
There is no such thing as a root-menu. Android does not have that functionality build into its GUI.
Root access simply means administrator access to the system's root directories. Hence the word Root.
You will always need additional apps and software to root access to change functionality. Titanium Backup, Xposed, SuperUser/SuperSU, etcetera.
If you want those options in the system, you'll need a customROM.
ShadowLea said:
Root access simply means administrator access to the system's root directories. Hence the word Root.
You will always need additional apps and software to root access to change functionality. Titanium Backup, Xposed, SuperUser/SuperSU, etcetera.
If you want those options in the system, you'll need a customROM.
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Right and even with a custom ROM you can't run away from using 3rd party utilities to make the tweaks. Custom is usually a good start though as they are typically debloated. Civato's is good for lightly modified stock with xposed baked in.
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Now we are getting somewhere. So what you have all told me is that stock android, even when rooted, is still a sandbox with all kinds of limitations to customization. Even with apps to tweak some of it.
This is the nail in the coffin for me and android then. Im not in the least interested in all those custom roms where there is always some shortcoming or lack of support for a feature that does not work properly.
Thanks all. I am done.
globalsearch said:
Now we are getting somewhere. So what you have all told me is that stock android, even when rooted, is still a sandbox with all kinds of limitations to customization. Even with apps to tweak some of it.
This is the nail in the coffin for me and android then. Im not in the least interested in all those custom roms where there is always some shortcoming or lack of support for a feature that does not work properly.
Thanks all. I am done.
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for what its worth I do have your answer, better late than never right?
anyways android is built on a linux kernal and normally access to the linux command line does not come pre-installed to keep normal people from messing up their system.
so you will need to download a terminal emulator app if you don't already have one if you plan to do this from android. (Alternatively you can do it from the android debug bridge while connected to a computer if preferred)
First you will want to get the package name for the app you want to disable.
you can do this with a root file browser app by going to system / Data / App and then finding the package you want to disable.
however since it sounds like you want to do this manually we will go over the terminal process:
open a terminal window.
type: su
Hit: enter
the terminal will ask you for root access, go ahead and grant it.
to list the android packages type: pm list packages
hit: enter
This will show a list of the installed packages (Apps)
find the ones you want to disable.
now type: pm disable insertpackagename
hit: enter
for example to disable youtube type: pm disable com.google.android.youtube
Hit: Enter
that's it.
you will likely want to restart your launcher or even just restart the tablet afterwards as most launchers don't constantly poll for disabled apps so it will need a refresh.
also you probably already realise this so I apologise if its redundant but make sure you know what you are disabling
as with any linux environment disabling system packages and packages that another application is dependant on can cause trouble.
firefly6240 said:
for what its worth I do have your answer, better late than never right?
anyways android is built on a linux kernal and normally access to the linux command line does not come pre-installed to keep normal people from messing up their system.
so you will need to download a terminal emulator app if you don't already have one if you plan to do this from android. (Alternatively you can do it from the android debug bridge while connected to a computer if preferred)
First you will want to get the package name for the app you want to disable.
you can do this with a root file browser app by going to system / Data / App and then finding the package you want to disable.
however since it sounds like you want to do this manually we will go over the terminal process:
open a terminal window.
type: su
Hit: enter
the terminal will ask you for root access, go ahead and grant it.
to list the android packages type: pm list packages
hit: enter
This will show a list of the installed packages (Apps)
find the ones you want to disable.
now type: pm disable insertpackagename
hit: enter
for example to disable youtube type: pm disable com.google.android.youtube
Hit: Enter
that's it.
you will likely want to restart your launcher or even just restart the tablet afterwards as most launchers don't constantly poll for disabled apps so it will need a refresh.
also you probably already realise this so I apologise if its redundant but make sure you know what you are disabling
as with any linux environment disabling system packages and packages that another application is dependant on can cause trouble.
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Finally. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
globalsearch said:
Low selling are not the words. More like abandoned. Samsung has moved away. My questions where android specific. "Freezing" apps, using a convoluted set of more apps to control unwanted apps, ridiculous. It is all ridiculous. Either root gives control or it does not.
I want full control, what runs, what doesn't, what runs in the background. Is that not why we root? So a comprehensive list of whats what WOULD RREEEAAAALLLLYYY HELP.
I am alone in the wilderness screaming at the trees demanding to know why it rains.
Do you understand?
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Just thought I would clarify a bit here, I know how confusing it can be coming from windows, I made the switch myself not so many years ago and had a lot of the same questions.
to explain root, the closest comparison I have imperfect as it may be is that root access is similar to windows admin access.
the noticeable difference in a lot of cases is what comes pre-installed.
for example in windows if you have an admin account it automatically unlocks access to the command prompt which was already pre-installed.
in android root access gives you the option to use a terminal but often one is not pre-installed, in fact even a file manager is often not included.
this is actually not a limitation of android so much as a limitation put in place by the specific device manufacturer as to what comes pre-installed.
for example a lot of cheap android tablets running google AOSP (Android open source Project) code actually do come with terminal apps and in some cases even come pre-loaded with root access.
in comparison a lot of more well known devices do not come with this pre-loaded to prevent people from breaking things. (For a windows comparison, its hard to delete the system32 folder without admin access, a file browser and command prompt right?)
As far as samsung abandonment, its a bit trickier there.
Basically what you would normally be used to is the Microsoft scenario.
1. Microsoft - Microsoft makes the OS but it runs on hardware made by others.
a. hardware issues go to the hardware manufacturer for as long as they support it.
b. OS updates are handled by Microsoft, they have more or less full control of the OS as it is closed source.
2. the Samsung Scenario - The hardware is made by the manufacturer, the bootloaders are locked, the OS is made by Google and then tweaked by the manufacturer.
a. all official updates come through the manufacturer (In this case Samsung) after google releases the open source code, samsung then alters it as they like and then they release an update.
b. Samsung is the sole support for the hardware and software as google no longer supports the software for the most part after its been altered.
c. it takes a lot of time and work for samsung to develop an update and push it out and then deal with all of the issues that come with updating the OS.
d. its often easier to leave a device that comparatively very few people bought on an OS that they knew was usable rather than spend all the time and money updating it and dealing with all of the related issues.
With that in mind this tablet has been out for about 2 years now which is a huge amount of time for this type of hardware.
All that being said Samsung very recently released the update to android 5.1.1 for this tablet
so it is definitely not abandoned yet, in fact its had more attention than even other devices by the same manufacturer but I suspect 5.1.1 will be the last official update we see.
if you have one of the note variants with an unlockable bootloader as well as a bit of time on your hands I would very much recommend trying a custom rom if you are worried about samsung abandonment.
you may have to try several different ones though, as you'll find a mix of roms that may seem almost half baked, more alpha release style but are cutting edge (I like those ones myself) to roms that are even more stable than the original.
My apologies if some of this is redundant information, I just thought I would throw in my two cents in case it helps
Two points . . for what its worth . . 1) the use of package manager's disable command effectively does the same thing that freezing in Titanium does, the main difference being that you're using a GUI to do it (there can be differences in how the apps are flagged though and using the pm command means not having to rely on yet another app); 2) disabling/freezing means you'll be unable to ever launch said application unless you enable the app again manually (using the package manager PM commands or Titanium).
Main reason in my initial response I didn't go straight to freezing/disabling apps is because that approach isn't exactly the same thing as managing startup in the context of the example given about managing what apps start up on boot in Windows (i.e. msconfig command and unchecking startup options). When someone takes an app out of startup in Windows the software isn't permanently disabled (unavailable) it is merely prevented from preloading when the system is started. So . . in reference to the music app referred to in the original post, if the goal is to be able to use the stock music app but just not have it load itself into memory on its own then the solution isnt disabling it or freezing it, its to hibernate it with something like Greenify or prevent it from starting using something like Boot Manager and Xposed Framework.
Firefly6240 got exactly what I was asking for. Freezing and hybernating, et al, is not total control. When i kill an app and i want it gone. I want it gone. Example, the google music, google books and google films. I gave stopped, killed even "uninstalled" in Purify and in Kingroot. On random reboot, the buggers are back. Fireflys solution is ceasars thumbs down. Wonderful. He understood the TOTAL control I was looking for.
Also, i loaded android terminal to run the commands.
By the way, Knox and EML are next on my list.
Thanks again firefly6420
globalsearch said:
Firefly6240 got exactly what I was asking for. Freezing and hybernating, et al, is not total control. When i kill an app and i want it gone. I want it gone. Example, the google music, google books and google films. I gave stopped, killed even "uninstalled" in Purify and in Kingroot. On random reboot, the buggers are back. Fireflys solution is ceasars thumbs down. Wonderful. He understood the TOTAL control I was looking for.
Also, i loaded android terminal to run the commands.
By the way, Knox and EML are next on my list.
Thanks again firefly6420
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OK good, then I misunderstood the question. Hibernation has its place, it's just not what you wanted, you wanted complete uninstallation basically.
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like it or not, OEMs, even Google cannot just give the public ready-made controls to such things because the way a lot of (non-essential but) pre-installed apps are designed they depends on other apps being present and/or running.
AppOps was a classic example cuz once ppl found it and made public how to take advantage, a lot of dependant apps and services were affected and people called in to their OEMs complaining of broken phones when it was simply tinkered permissions.
there is no mobile OS more robust than android. all have their forms of depth, appeal, features and restrictions but none embrace admin access & leaving open the ability to do it more than android (just need the carrier and sometimes OEM to leave the bootloader the hell alone lol)
if you want a smartphone with admin privileges out-of-the-box and full control of all system services etc, I would recommend an Ubuntu phone. they're about a year into commercial availability which is still kinda fringe but stable and will lack certain major perks of owning either iOS (yuck!) or Android. there is a couple Ubuntu/android dual boot phones out there too, and that comes with the issue of storage space after holding 2 OS's
in another year or 2 Ubuntu phones should be more plentiful and bring over some popular apps and active development but I don't anticipate seeing it take off quite like other mobile OS's cuz when it comes to feeding the masses, more options and less restrictions can have the same effect as asking an 80 year old to put in an address on your navigation in the car while you're on the highway. it's a learning curve simple to some that seems too simple not to understand but can be bad for business.
I think android and iOS beat this problem initially because when they started, there weren't any other well-established alternatives. BlackBerry and some fringe PDAs were about it...
Note pro 12.2
I was/am dealing with the Note Pro 12.2 specifically. Not other handsets. This device is coming up on two years and support has been waning. When I bought it all was well. Less than a few months later the damned KitKat update came and suddenly I found myself without proper access to the external sd card, that had worked perfectly when i purchased the unit. I was furious. Especially when we where being told that it was for our own good and google was pushing internal memory over external. Damn them. I bought samsung BECAUSE it had the sd slot. And when Samsung did not provide the fix to the platform.xml file I was livid. 5.01 came out and Samsung destoyed support for most external blue tooth keyboards. And so it goes, one stupid blunder after another. Their updates destroyed my workflow.
So yes, damned right I want full control of my device, because they have shown they have NO regard for our needs and DO NOT ADDRESS our concerns. Just buy our stuff and shut up. Well in this case, i was sold a product that they later incapacitated.
I can not abide with that. I tried so hard not to root, for a year and a half. I shut off automatic updates on EVERYTHING because even updates from google play would sometimes destroy a goid priducy. I started saving apks from versions of apps that worked. I stayed stock 4.4.2 because everything worked but the sd write. How many threads do we have here where people upgraded to marshmellow and then begged to get back to kitkat? Last week after reading thread after thread of problems and convoluted fixes and a gazillion rom versions each of which has its own imperfections and then reading that the new samsung tablet was released windows 10. I knew it was over.
At that moment the decision was inevitable. I rooted and IMMEDIATELY fixed the sd write issue. And i unrooted. Two days of random reboots and i roited again, this time to take the bull by the hirns and control this thing. I became increasingly frustrated with the lack of displayed technical knowledge here at xda and the tons pf advice from also clueless posters. I tried everything. Even got scolded by an admin who has been here less time than me. (Follow the rules, follow the rules...don't you dare to ask the important questions)
Not till the reply from firefly6240. Now he knows something. And he shared a little with me. Which i greatly appreciated. I have a direction now. And the tweaks I have done have increased my battery tije, the screen reojse time and overall improvement of the environment. All on 4.4.2.
I still have some minor issues, but google and android code monkeys WILL NO LONGER CONTROL MY DEVICE, MY PROPERTY.
It is time people take control of the ELECTRONIC items which we purchase with OUR hard earned money and stop letting manufacturers turn those devices into nothing more than sales portals to make more money and deny us control or the ability to JUST SAY NO.

Similar IPhone Tweaks on S7 Edge

Hey guys,
I just placed an order on Amazon for the International S7 Edge version. I was looking on the xda forum and the Playstore for certain tweaks that will help with the transition from an iPhone 6 Plus to S7. I will admit it's this is overwhelming for me, it's like learning a whole new language.
These are the apps and tweaks that I mostly use on my iPhone. Can you tell me if there is anything similar to these.
- Cydia - All in one app for mods, tweaks, torrent client, etc.
- Protecti+ - Allows me to only show you want I want to show you when someone uses my phone. I can choose to hide apps, pictures, text messages, etc. I can use an command to bring everything back like hitting my home button three times.
- GV Mobile+ - I use this app if I am selling something on Craigslist and I don't want to give out my real phone number. I am able to use a different phone number for texting and calling by using my real number but it's masked with my fake number.
- AppCake - it's a pirated site for crack apps. Just an FYI, I do purchase all of my apps and tweaks through Cydia but I have learned my lesson to try it out before buying.
- TorrentBox - Just an app I use to download torrents.
For torrent Client - flud has no rival.
For torrent search - Use torrent search app from the playstore
For cydia - there are a lot of applets outlet on Android. Do your search when you get your phone.
Protecti+ - Use guest mode on Android or use security apps to hide whatever secret you've got. Your best bet here will be to use the guest mode.
To hide/mask a number, there are a lot of apps that do similar things on Android. You might want to root and discover new ways of doing that. Google search and you'll find virtually all the steps needed to do whatever you want to do to your phone. Make google your friend.
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Thanks for the info. If I root my phone will I still be able to use the finger print login? I hear mix reviews about Samsung pay not and is working with international phones.
JoeFromSFO said:
Thanks for the info. If I root my phone will I still be able to use the finger print login? I hear mix reviews about Samsung pay not and is working with international phones.
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I'm not sure about Pay, but fingerprint will definitely work. Moreover, there is a private mode by default which hides gallery, music, voice recorder and files. If this isn't enough, you can easily find new apps on the play store. Most of them have free versions, so you don't have to buy (at least at first).
If you do root your device, you can install xposed and get almost all the network & location spoofing done. I haven't personally needed an app like GV Mobile+, so I'm not sure about it.
thedisturbedone said:
I'm not sure about Pay, but fingerprint will definitely work. Moreover, there is a private mode by default which hides gallery, music, voice recorder and files. If this isn't enough, you can easily find new apps on the play store. Most of them have free versions, so you don't have to buy (at least at first).
If you do root your device, you can install xposed and get almost all the network & location spoofing done. I haven't personally needed an app like GV Mobile+, so I'm not sure about it.
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Thanks, I'll check out xposed for location spoofing.
Google Voice is great if you don't want to give out your real phone number. You can make calls using a Google number which will call you to your real phone number then once you pick up it will then call the number your trying to call so it only shows that Google phone number not your real number.
I'll checkout Guess Mode. I only hide personal apps like my back account, settings, shopping apps or anything someone can go in and make changes.
Just going through these post on here is crazy. So much to learn. I just hope the auto correct and multi tasking is great on the Samsung. Right now my phone reboots 8 times a day when I
Multitask with my iPhone 6 Plus.
For Cydia equivalent, use Xposed, it works almost the same but you don't need to add source like cydia does.
I don't think we have any AppCake equivalent source/module, but most of the Xposed module came free with a complete feature.
for Torrent, uTorrent on the playstore would do the trick, no need to root, just install it.
pitopika13 said:
For Cydia equivalent, use Xposed, it works almost the same but you don't need to add source like cydia does.
I don't think we have any AppCake equivalent source/module, but most of the Xposed module came free with a complete feature.
for Torrent, uTorrent on the playstore would do the trick, no need to root, just install it.
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Thanks, so xposed is not a location spoofing app but more like a Cydia, gotcha. I am familiar with uTorrent on my PC so that would work.
I don't think I need to root my phone. I am not trying to change the color my my keyboard or make changes to my layout. I just like certain tweaks like different multi-tasking options, hiding apps, location spoofing for apps and much more.
Xposed is what you want. Root using the guide on xda id stick to stock rom for now and flash the xposed files
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Ausboy 2011 said:
Xposed is what you want. Root using the guide on xda id stick to stock rom for now and flash the xposed files
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Thanks,
Do you need to root your phone to load xposed and use tweaks?
Having used appcake I don't think xposed is really equivalent at all. Xposed will give you more control over our os and installing mods. You'd probably want something like blackmart or apptoid which are more similar to appcake. You can find these apks by doing a Google search. Once you download an apk it installs like a normal app. Doing this is called side loading and you have to go into your security settings and check allow from unknown sources.
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JoeFromSFO said:
Thanks,
Do you need to root your phone to load xposed and use tweaks?
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Yes you need root. You will want to unlock your boot loader and install a custom recovery first thing. They're some great guides on here on how to do that.
Keep in mind, once you root, you'll never get to use Samsung pay, which does work on international devices. Where are you located?
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JoeFromSFO said:
Thanks, I'll check out xposed for location spoofing.
Google Voice is great if you don't want to give out your real phone number. You can make calls using a Google number which will call you to your real phone number then once you pick up it will then call the number your trying to call so it only shows that Google phone number not your real number.
I'll checkout Guess Mode. I only hide personal apps like my back account, settings, shopping apps or anything someone can go in and make changes.
Just going through these post on here is crazy. So much to learn. I just hope the auto correct and multi tasking is great on the Samsung. Right now my phone reboots 8 times a day when I
Multitask with my iPhone 6 Plus.
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Yes. Looks like you've learnt a lot already! And yes, in iPhone terms, xposed is like Cydia
Keyboard, I'll either suggest the Google Keyboard or Switkey. Both are free, so you can try them. Swiftkey has a special mode for the edge screen which is kinda helpful for me, so keys don't overflow to the edges of the screen. And it learns your typing patterns damn well including where you press for each key.
As for multi-tasking, its quite epic with the 4GB of ram. You should be able to do all your work. No reboots at all here!
I hope you have the International variant! Because it has a lot more support and is easily unlockable / rootable. If you do root though, you trip a security switch called Knox. This will harm your validity, which is why Samsung Pay would mostly likely not work (people might find a way around it). But in normal day usage, rooting has no effect whatsoever.
If your banking apps can see that you've rooted and refuse to work, there are modules in Xposed that can help you hide it. So its a negligible.
Anything else?
Thanks guys,
I will mess with the phone this weekend and see what I can come up with. I know it's going to be a learning curve for me but I am sure in the end it will be worth it. If not then I always have my jailbroken iPhone I can use.
Appcake on iOs, Blackmarket on Android. I can get any latest version apps(from the other country) when it still not available for my country. On Appcake you cant update your apps, need to reinstall it (cmiiw)
JoeFromSFO said:
I will admit it's this is overwhelming for me, it's like learning a whole new language.
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And then a handful of people in here goes on to tell you to root and install Xposed. Right. I would NOT root or do any heavy modifications to the device at first. You're coming from an iPhone and Android is completely new to you, so I would recommend you to get to know Android first, and then after a month or so when you've learned how to properly use the thing, then start looking for alternative apps, services, mods etc. Don't look at a product you haven't touched yet and ask your self "how can I improve this?", when you don't know what to even improve.
People around here will, of course, tell you to root, tweak the battery and launch it on a rocket to mars. Don't listen to them. You are however interested in some alternative apps to the one's you used on your iPhone.
- Cydia = Xposed, but the latter is much more powerful, and thus much more dangerous. It's a fun app to use, but it requires root, which will void your warranty, and Samsung Pay will be long gone. It'll trigger KNOX, and your phone will forever be marked as modified. You won't be able to make it completely stock again. Ever. So I would hold off with root and Xposed for now.
- Protecti+ = Private Mode, which you can find in the drop down notification center. You can toggle it on and off there, and you can set photo albums, files etc. to private, and the files will only be visible when you tap the Private Mode-toggle, access it with your fingerprint, and then all the files will be visible in the Gallery, file explorer and so on. When you want to hide it again, just exit Private Mode by tapping the Private Mode-toogle again.
- GV Mobile+ = No idea, but it's a Google Voice number, so I guess there's a solution out there. I don't use it myself, so I don't really have an overview over what's going on in that area.
- AppCake = Piracy is something that is really easy to do on Android, and it's a serious problem for the devs, so please don't do it. The Google Play Store has a refund function, which means that if you buy an app and you're not happy with it, then just tap "Refund". Voila. That's it. You can use the refund-button for about 2 hours after you've bought the app (or more), but you can easily get a refund after a month to if you really want to. The point here is that there's no reason to pirate any app. Pirating an app is also risky, since the APK can be modified with malware and so on. This is literally how malware spreads on Android. Cheap people who can't spend a buck.
- TorrentBox = Flud. Simple as that. It looks great, and it works great.
Again, just use your S7 Edge! Just use it and get used to Android. Are you bothered by something? Alright, it can probably be tweaked. Don't like the default messaging app? Okay, so just install a different one. Don't like the browser? Install a different one. Don't like the look of things? Download a theme or two from the Theme Store. You have no reason to root right now. At all. If you do, I'm sure we'll read a Q&A thread from you soon where something has gone horribly wrong, and you have no idea what to do, since you have no idea how things work
J.biden is 100% right get used to s7 edge before you start playing with tweaks and root.
Once you root you can never go back to complete original firmware as out of the box and you will void warranty. To some including myself that doesn't matter but many it does especially those new to android.
Don't rush it just tske your time.
J.Biden said:
And then a handful of people in here goes on to tell you to root and install Xposed. Right. I would NOT root or do any heavy modifications to the device at first. You're coming from an iPhone and Android is completely new to you, so I would recommend you to get to know Android first, and then after a month or so when you've learned how to properly use the thing, then start looking for alternative apps, services, mods etc. Don't look at a product you haven't touched yet and ask your self "how can I improve this?", when you don't know what to even improve.
People around here will, of course, tell you to root, tweak the battery and launch it on a rocket to mars. Don't listen to them. You are however interested in some alternative apps to the one's you used on your iPhone.
- Cydia = Xposed, but the latter is much more powerful, and thus much more dangerous. It's a fun app to use, but it requires root, which will void your warranty, and Samsung Pay will be long gone. It'll trigger KNOX, and your phone will forever be marked as modified. You won't be able to make it completely stock again. Ever. So I would hold off with root and Xposed for now.
- Protecti+ = Private Mode, which you can find in the drop down notification center. You can toggle it on and off there, and you can set photo albums, files etc. to private, and the files will only be visible when you tap the Private Mode-toggle, access it with your fingerprint, and then all the files will be visible in the Gallery, file explorer and so on. When you want to hide it again, just exit Private Mode by tapping the Private Mode-toogle again.
- GV Mobile+ = No idea, but it's a Google Voice number, so I guess there's a solution out there. I don't use it myself, so I don't really have an overview over what's going on in that area.
- AppCake = Piracy is something that is really easy to do on Android, and it's a serious problem for the devs, so please don't do it. The Google Play Store has a refund function, which means that if you buy an app and you're not happy with it, then just tap "Refund". Voila. That's it. You can use the refund-button for about 2 hours after you've bought the app (or more), but you can easily get a refund after a month to if you really want to. The point here is that there's no reason to pirate any app. Pirating an app is also risky, since the APK can be modified with malware and so on. This is literally how malware spreads on Android. Cheap people who can't spend a buck.
- TorrentBox = Flud. Simple as that. It looks great, and it works great.
Again, just use your S7 Edge! Just use it and get used to Android. Are you bothered by something? Alright, it can probably be tweaked. Don't like the default messaging app? Okay, so just install a different one. Don't like the browser? Install a different one. Don't like the look of things? Download a theme or two from the Theme Store. You have no reason to root right now. At all. If you do, I'm sure we'll read a Q&A thread from you soon where something has gone horribly wrong, and you have no idea what to do, since you have no idea how things work
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Well put JBiden??
I wasn't planing on rooting the phone at first. I need to learn how to switch between apps, learn the settings and learn how to use other functions.
With my iPhone I don't even use custom themes. I just like Protecti+, Intube, Flex2, and TypeStatus.
I only use AppCake to try out paid apps and if it's something I like and does what they claim then I will delete the app and pay for it. But honestly I don't buy that many apps at the App Store because everything I need is free but I do but a bunch of tweaks and apps from Cydia. I just hate it when developers don't update their tweaks.
Can I download custom app switchers / Multi-Tasking tweaks?
Is there Visual voicemail on the International S7 Edge?
JoeFromSFO said:
Thanks, I'll check out xposed for location spoofing.
Google Voice is great if you don't want to give out your real phone number. You can make calls using a Google number which will call you to your real phone number then once you pick up it will then call the number your trying to call so it only shows that Google phone number not your real number.
I'll checkout Guess Mode. I only hide personal apps like my back account, settings, shopping apps or anything someone can go in and make changes.
Just going through these post on here is crazy. So much to learn. I just hope the auto correct and multi tasking is great on the Samsung. Right now my phone reboots 8 times a day when I
Multitask with my iPhone 6 Plus.
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One biggest thing that I am still trying to find a good resolution to is group mms messaging and with pictures video mail. Imessage was great and reliable and didn't compress images and videos.
U should shut off imessage and FaceTime on your iPhone a few days prior to porting that number over to Android.
I also had an issue that if people sent me a text to a thread that was when I had imessage enabled, it didn't go through. I needed to have my family erase and start brand new text messages to me in order to receive them.
I am not sure if any of the 3rd party SMS apps out there work better with group messages, picture mail and videos. I think either one u use, your carrier will compress the file.
Hangouts and whatsapp is only good if everyone installs.
AnThOnY- S7 Edge
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JoeFromSFO said:
Well put JBiden??
I wasn't planing on rooting the phone at first. I need to learn how to switch between apps, learn the settings and learn how to use other functions.
With my iPhone I don't even use custom themes. I just like Protecti+, Intube, Flex2, and TypeStatus.
I only use AppCake to try out paid apps and if it's something I like and does what they claim then I will delete the app and pay for it. But honestly I don't buy that many apps at the App Store because everything I need is free but I do but a bunch of tweaks and apps from Cydia. I just hate it when developers don't update their tweaks.
Can I download custom app switchers / Multi-Tasking tweaks?
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Typestutus was cool tweak but not something available off imessage platform.
There is also an ad blocker for Samsung browser on playstore that works pretty good.
I miss youtube+ on iPhone as that blocked ads and allowed u to fast forward or rewind ten seconds with a push of a button.
I haven't found a good YouTube replacement on my s7 edge yet that.
I would suggest fooling around with default apps prior to installing 3rd party ones. I used android allot in 2012 and I had a replacement app for all default ones. Coming back to Android especially with Samsung there r big improvements.
I am.currently using the default keyboard and touchwiz. U have all those themes u can download to theme keyboard as well as touchwiz. Touchwiz has many options but.if u still feel that's not enough nova launcher is all I hear about when reading.
I used to love the tweak on iph
AnThOnY- S7 Edge
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Iphone where u could slide cursor by sliding on keyboard. There is an option with the default keyboard to do that which was surprising.
Amazed how many options default KB has.
AnThOnY- S7 Edge
iTouch24 said:
One biggest thing that I am still trying to find a good resolution to is group mms messaging and with pictures video mail. Imessage was great and reliable and didn't compress images and videos.
U should shut off imessage and FaceTime on your iPhone a few days prior to porting that number over to Android.
I also had an issue that if people sent me a text to a thread that was when I had imessage enabled, it didn't go through. I needed to have my family erase and start brand new text messages to me in order to receive them.
I am not sure if any of the 3rd party SMS apps out there work better with group messages, picture mail and videos. I think either one u use, your carrier will compress the file.
Hangouts and whatsapp is only good if everyone installs.
AnThOnY- S7 Edge
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Typestutus was cool tweak but not something available off imessage platform.
There is also an ad blocker for Samsung browser on playstore that works pretty good.
I miss youtube+ on iPhone as that blocked ads and allowed u to fast forward or rewind ten seconds with a push of a button.
I haven't found a good YouTube replacement on my s7 edge yet that.
I would suggest fooling around with default apps prior to installing 3rd party ones. I used android allot in 2012 and I had a replacement app for all default ones. Coming back to Android especially with Samsung there r big improvements.
I am.currently using the default keyboard and touchwiz. U have all those themes u can download to theme keyboard as well as touchwiz. Touchwiz has many options but.if u still feel that's not enough nova launcher is all I hear about when reading.
I used to love the tweak on iph
AnThOnY- S7 Edge
---------- Post added at 05:38 AM ---------- Previous post was at 05:36 AM ----------
Iphone where u could slide cursor by sliding on keyboard. There is an option with the default keyboard to do that which was surprising.
Amazed how many options default KB has.
AnThOnY- S7 Edge
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Thanks for this. I was trying to figure out how to move my curser using the keys on the keyboard. This helps out a lot.
The only thing I am struggling with is finding a way to hide selected apps with a gesture. I have been looking at a bunch of guest mode and privacy apps at the App Store but I don't like them. I also can't find a activator to enable and disable an app.
How can I hide apps and where can o get an activator?
Thanks.

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