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I have a quite naive, ambicious and just theoretical question. HTC HD has a thermometer on CPU as probably most of todays PDAs. But, wouldn't be possible to count the temperature in the room(or wherever you are) due to the informations from this thermometer? Of course you would have to count a bit with the current performance of CPU(find out how much the CPU temperature affects data going out of the thermometer. But maybe after some mathematical operation it could work. I know it is very naive questin, but I just wanted to ask.
So thanks for the response
Nice idea, but cant see how this could work accurately as the variable (cpu/battery temp) various wildly depending on how heavily you are using it.
Be better (and more accurate) to rely on the weather app/msn weather widget for the external temperature.
Saying that, a developer might like the challenge
the thermometer is build into the cpu chip itself
and cpu usage have a much bigger impact on the temp
then area temp does
more so when these devices don't have big air grills for air circulation
so doubt it would ever work well as a room temp measuring device
I realize it would be complicated if not impossible .. but it was just an idea so I put it here.
Shooter92 said:
I realize it would be complicated if not impossible .. but it was just an idea so I put it here.
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Actualy it was an application like that, it was for smartphones running wm2003, it wasn't so accurate.I was lookinking for something like this on the net but nothing found for pocket pc
Theoretically, a program could measure the temperature of the device overtime, taking the cpu usage, battery drainage, etc. to determine an equation to use in calculating the only missing variable: the outside temp. The equation could mathematically deduce that based on a given temperature with given variables (cpu usage, battery heat based on drainage, etc.).
However, the program would reasonably need to be device specific. Otherwise, small changes in hardware would change the results dramatically. Of course, the program could determine that, as I mentioned above, but it would introduce an entirely new set of variables and would probably need to run for a given time to sample the device (at least a week). It still may not even be possible that way because the device would not be able to reach the maximums and minimums of each variable...still, math could theoretically fill in the gaps.
That being said, it still would not be very accurate because there is actually 2 blank variables. If the temperature surrounding the phone was static (the same all the time) then this would work. BUT since you will be changing air temps quite frequently, the air temp would not have time to affect the device. It would be a slow increase or decrease until it finally levels out. Its like taking water and putting it in a freezer. It won't freeze immediately, but it will freeze over the course of several hours. You can be outside in 90 degree weather for several hours then walk back inside to 70 degree air. Your phone would still calculate the air temp as some where around 90 for quite a while.
Does that make sense?
So I'm sort of interested in purchasing a Gear 2 Neo, and am always using runkeeper on my phone to track my distance, pace and calories burned and was wondering if the Gear 2 Neo can do the same?
I'm also curious as to whether it works with RunKeeper or not, as I like to track all my runs with it.
Yes, it can measure calories burned, heart rate, distance traveled, steps taken as well as speed.
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So I'm sort of interested in purchasing a Gear 2 Neo, and am always using runkeeper on my phone to track my distance, pace and calories burned and was wondering if the Gear 2 Neo can do the same?
I'm also curious as to whether it works with RunKeeper or not, as I like to track all my runs with it.
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As already mentioned above, yes it can. One of the included apps is called Exercise and it will track your running, walking, cycling, and hiking. I use this for my walking and running (on the elliptical) and it gives me: start time, duration, distance (miles), calories burned, avg speed, max speed, avg pace, max pace, and average heart rate.
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As already mentioned above, yes it can. One of the included apps is called Exercise and it will track your running, walking, cycling, and hiking. I use this for my walking and running (on the elliptical) and it gives me: start time, duration, distance (miles), calories burned, avg speed, max speed, avg pace, max pace, and average heart rate.
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Thanks for the replies. I read something about the tracking not being accurate due to not having GPS. Does anybody know how it compares to using runkeeper on my phone?
I dont' understand how it work for bikking because there isnt' steps counts with this sport ... what's happening with this ?
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I dont' understand how it work for bikking because there isnt' steps counts with this sport ... what's happening with this ?
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hiking and Biking it user the GPS not the pedometer per Samsung site on the how to instructions...
Really enjoying the watch but I have an issue with the calorie counter on S Health, it seems to decide I've already burned a significant amount of calories each day by the time I've woken up. For instance, the last couple of nights I have gone to bed with the watch next to me (I don't like sleeping with a watch on), once on aeroplane mode and once just as normal. When I then wake up at 7am and look at the S Health counter on the watch, it seems to decide that I've already burned about 500-600 calories for the day! Whilst I would love to burn that in my sleep, it's obviously well off.
Is it possible to set it so that the calorie counter is at 0 or a realistic level until I put the watch on in the morning? Or is the issue that I'm not sleeping wearing the watch?
you are living and so you burn calories
the value without moving is calculated on your age, weight,sex
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you are living and so you burn calories
the value without moving is calculated on your age, weight,sex
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But if the poster is not wearing the watch during sex - how is it calculating the calories burned??
Calories Count
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But if the poster is not wearing the watch during sex - how is it calculating the calories burned??
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The calories count on my S3 are completely wrong.
The actually counting from S3 shows enormus calories burned during the day - more than 11.000 average and at the same time, within calories counting during running it counts just 61 calories during 35 minutes of fast running 12,5 km/hr (my age is 63, height 189 cms and weight 86 kgs). Something is completely wrong.
Any idea how to correct this calculations?
I am having the exact same issue. I burned insanely 25 000 kcal today. Amazing. But when I was running for an hours, I only burned 60 kcal. Better doing nothing
Omg, I am annoyed. Also, it did not show the distance run etc. This is new and I must say, I am sorry that I have purchased this watch. Nothing for fitnessfreaks like me....
Unlike Apple Samsung takes into consideration your basal metabolic rate . So when you plug in your age, sex and weight it's going to use that to calculate your BMR. Any calories burned through actual exercise will just be added onto that.
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Unlike Apple Samsung takes into consideration your basal metabolic rate . So when you plug in your age, sex and weight it's going to use that to calculate your BMR. Any calories burned through actual exercise will just be added onto that.
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Well I must have an outstanding metabolic rate. In taking the watch off the charger and putting it on my wrist in the morning I burned 575 kcal!! Come on. Just like several other things it's not working right. Anyone have a work around?
S3 Heart rate monitor wildly over reporting bpm
I searched, but didn't find a suitable post. I also Googled my querry with no satisfaction. Anyway my S3 has been working like a champ until a few days ago it started reporting 170-201 range. My age heart rate max is 156. After finishing a recent run, I dashed into the house while the HRM was still way over reporting and had my wife take my heart rate. As I suspected, mostly because I'm still alive, my heart rate was fine.
I factory reset the watch, played with heart rate settings and I am still at a loss.
My questions is, anyone else have this or similar issue that they overcome.
Any suggestions are welcome.
Did you try to measure your HR by your own by using ordinary clock and compare with the one on the Gear?
I made a thread about something similar: https://forum.xda-developers.com/gear-s3/help/questions-heart-rate-sensor-monitor-t3665746
However, today I tried something new during my run this morning. Normally, they advise wearing the watch up past your wrist bone, but I decided to push it up even further, almost 3 or 4 inches from my wrist bone. The good news is that the results were much more accurate. Prior to the adjustment, I was getting similar results of 200 bpm, which is just impossible - my max heart rate is 189. The readings I received after the run showed 190 max and 177 average. That appears to be much more accurate and realistic, even if it may be 3 or 5 beats off. It's at least useful now in terms of maintaining peak rates during workouts.
I pushed the band further up my wrist and tightened that sucker like a bale of hay. Heart rate came down, but my wrist hurts now. LOL
I think it's time to try Sammy's support. Although I've had perhaps 8-10 Samsung phones in my life and similar number of other high end phones for family members, I have never had to deal with their support. Wish me luck and thanks for your help.
25% over reporting bpm
Chest hart rate band : 103 avg bpm
Fitbit BLAZE: 105 avg bpm
Samsung Gear: 129 avg bpm
I also have the same problem and could not find a way to real with this problem. I compare it to a new chest hrm and the difference is day and night. My S3 shows me around 190 bpm in a 10K run wheras chest strap hrm shows 150 bpm; so bad.
I have the same problem
I've had my gear3 for about a year and just this week it started reading my daily bpm range between 79-208. My normal resting is under 60 and I can only get it up to 180 in a dead sprint.
I turned it only always read and then watched it. As soon as I woke up the screen it would around 200 but would drop with every beat until it got to around 65 and go back to sleep. When I woke it back up it had climbed high again. I wonder if there is a way to recalibrate it.
You can stop discussing this issue as there is no solution.
In the official Samsung forum, there are hundreds of posts claiming this issue but no solution from Samsung.
It is a design error of the sensor which cannot be solved with SW. Even changing the mainbord several times did not solve the issue.
So finally: heart rate monitoring with Samsung watches (Even the new ones) is useless.
Regards,
Dodger
I noticed that the blood pressure calibration part is performed through the phone, so maybe use that as base
gonna pay for someone to develop? In my opinion it is almost a waste of time having this feature since you need to calibrate it with a blood pressure monitor every month
You have to completely still for it to be of any use, theres literally no point in having it automatically done every hour under those circumstances, you'd be getting unusable data
If you can sit down and still once an hour and hit the button manually, you'll get a proper reading...
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You have to completely still for it to be of any use, theres literally no point in having it automatically done every hour under those circumstances, you'd be getting unusable data
If you can sit down and still once an hour and hit the button manually, you'll get a proper reading...
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You're right but... And it's a big one. There's a test that's quite regular off randomly taking blood pressure across three days non stop. It to doesn't care about the inaccuracies that occurre by not sitting or resting and so on.
Further more some people are under pressure just by the test itself, and have more accurate results from random measure.
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You're right but... And it's a big one. There's a test that's quite regular off randomly taking blood pressure across three days non stop. It to doesn't care about the inaccuracies that occurre by not sitting or resting and so on.
Further more some people are under pressure just by the test itself, and have more accurate results from random measure.
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In case my previous post wasnt clear any measurements you take without being at rest are worthless, theyre of no value to a doctor etc. For instance my doctor is exactly with her BP procedure as the calibration routine for the watch is...dont move, dont speak...i have a heart condition, so ive had more BP tests than most people have had hot dinners
Well you are determined to ignore what l told you in previous post and I can't figure why. The name of the test is Blood Pressure Holter and it's a common test.
allso it's not rare that people are afraid and tens of the procedure of blood pressure measurement because the pressure applied by the cuff. So taking a random test is a solution.
Tasker - if you google you will find a Tasker task that automates the process (with the wear plugin) this could easily be scheduled to happen every hour. As previously stated however it is virtually useless as you must stay still for it to work.......
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Well you are determined to ignore what l told you in previous post and I can't figure why. The name of the test is Blood Pressure Holter and it's a common test.
allso it's not rare that people are afraid and tens of the procedure of blood pressure measurement because the pressure applied by the cuff. So taking a random test is a solution.
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Ive had holter monitor test for my heart condition, its a completely different test that a simple blood pressure test, it tests heart rhythm, over a longer period than an ECG/EKG (of which it is entirely more closely related than BP), not pressure.
See: https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/holter-monitor/about/pac-20385039
For (hopefully) the last time, taking random BP tests when not at rest is a complete waste of time....
73sydney said:
Ive had holter monitor test for my heart condition, its a completely different test that a simple blood pressure test, it tests heart rhythm, over a longer period than an ECG/EKG (of which it is entirely more closely related than BP), not pressure.
See: https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/holter-monitor/about/pac-20385039
For (hopefully) the last time, taking random BP tests when not at rest is a complete waste of time....
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Holter monitoring of blood pressure | Medicum
A Holter blood pressure device is worn by the patient for twenty-four hours. The device records the changes in blood...
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Holter monitoring of blood pressure | Medicum
A Holter blood pressure device is worn by the patient for twenty-four hours. The device records the changes in blood...
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Benefits of Ambulatory Blood Pressure Monitoring | Welch Allyn
Learn why ambulatory blood pressure monitoring is the gold standard for diagnosing hypertension when compared to other blood pressure measurement methods.
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Benefits of Ambulatory Blood Pressure Monitoring | Welch Allyn
Learn why ambulatory blood pressure monitoring is the gold standard for diagnosing hypertension when compared to other blood pressure measurement methods.
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I think the point is that a holter monitor is different hardware from the watches BP sensor, and the watches sensor isn't designed to be used in that way and won't produce any meaningful readings.
Aside from that, I think the suggestion of using an auto-tasker is your best bet, as there isn't much incentive for developers to make this app. There isn't much demand for it, and users would absolutely give it bad reviews for how inaccurate the measurements would be, even though it isn't the app or developers fault.
With that said, if you still have your heart set on an app, you could take a crack at making it yourself. There are plenty of tutorials online to get you started.
My Dr. is always higher than my watch and my home tester, those two are fairly close to one another.
Most Physicians take blood pressure incorrectly as per the AHA.
Are blood pressure measurement mistakes making you chronically ill?
Here are the costly mistakes you or your health provider may be making when taking blood pressure – and how to fix them.
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