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Push email on Android

Currently, I fall on the WinMo side of the coin.
All my email is hosted by Google Apps, and is pushed to my WinMo device by GoogleApps using the MS Activesync (MS Exchange Server) protocol.
If I move onto an ANDROID device, what mechanisms are available to me, to have 'always on' push-email? Will my GoogleApps account have to MS ActiveSync to my Google Powered phone? Seems a bit weird. I know there are some 'constant connected' implementations of IMAP too, but apparently they're particularly resource / data hungry.
Can anyone advise - I'm likely to buy my first Android phone quite soon.

The default gmail application does push. There are also several options and settings for push or timed queries for other mail services, exchange or otherwise through market applications or the stock email application.

Android phones usually have 2 mail apps. One for gmail which automatically pushes mail to the app and works absolutely brilliantly. The second is for all other types of mail accounts eg pop, Imap, and exchange ActiveSync. This can be scheduled or set to push under ActiveSync.

Thanks folks, for all the input.
This sounds like it would actually work better for me, as it seems I'd be able to have instant push email through the gmail app, for my google-apps domain, and the second mail client could be pushed email directly from an exchange server.
Wonder how it'll handle contacts from both!
I think all that remains now, is do I get the HTC Desire, or the SE Xperia X10,
and that's a question out of scope for this thread, I think.

Has anyone tried setting up gmail as an activesync account so all email will be in one app? I've tried different things for the username and domain and can't get it to connect.

I actually switched from having a hosted MSexchange account to a Googleapps GMail acct, and push works great.

n0ahg said:
Has anyone tried setting up gmail as an activesync account so all email will be in one app? I've tried different things for the username and domain and can't get it to connect.
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according to googleapps, username is your FULL email address - [email protected] or [email protected]. domain should be blank. the 'Exchange' server is m.google.com. The option for using security should be selected.
Having never laid hands on Android, I can't tell you how to input these; but this is what I use on WinMo, and on my Nokia with the MailForExchange client.

youbrokeit said:
according to googleapps, username is your FULL email address - [email protected] or [email protected]. domain should be blank. the 'Exchange' server is m.google.com. The option for using security should be selected.
Having never laid hands on Android, I can't tell you how to input these; but this is what I use on WinMo, and on my Nokia with the MailForExchange client.
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The email app on android doesn't have a seperate domain box and keeps putting a '\' on the front of the '<mail name>@gmail.com' :-(

I know this is some sort of thread necromancy but I have a question regarding setting up google mail while also using the standard google account for synchronisation.
Both methods offer also synchronisation of contacts and calendars. While having both calendar synchronisation options active it will clone your entries. What about the contact synchronisation? It seems reasonable to have both options active as adding a new contact over the email app (which will use the exchange active sync) would synchronise with the google contacts which in turn should fill up your contacts handbook. Or is it obsolete as the stock email app will already add the contact to your google account even using seemingly another account?
I would appreciate any attempts to clear this confusion
Nevermind. Found it out myself: just stay with the google account, the stock email app takes it info from there and does integrate it.

issue im facing on the GMail app that comes built in with the OS, I cannot move emails to a specific folder. Any overcome ?

Some of this needs to be done from a PC......

well moving to a folder is a basic function, and being a google phone i feel the GMAIL app is lacking in quite alot of basic needs, not mentioning the UI.
Been an iphone user, and GMAIL was awesome on iphone. Can say, gmail on iphone mail app been an awesome experience. The push mail is quite similiar to BlackBerry on iphone. Quite disappointed on my email experience with android.

ratta77 said:
well moving to a folder is a basic function, and being a google phone i feel the GMAIL app is lacking in quite alot of basic needs, not mentioning the UI.
Been an iphone user, and GMAIL was awesome on iphone. Can say, gmail on iphone mail app been an awesome experience. The push mail is quite similiar to BlackBerry on iphone. Quite disappointed on my email experience with android.
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Same here.
With 4 email accounts, i feel like the only one that works correctly with push is Gmail.
Other emails have to be set through independent apps, if available, which is very annoying.
The native email app doesn't have a push option, draining battery every time it goes fetch.
Android is a powerhouse.
There's gotta be a solution for this.
I would like emails on the same app, and push.
I need a phone for business and the best email phone is still the Blackberry.

Hi guys,
For all those who are looking for having your private domain mails pushed to your phone, without having an Exchange setup, GMAIL does it!
Here is a step by step guide for adding POP/IMAP mail accounts into your GMAIL account and therefore getting the mails pushed to your phone.
Only thing is that the mails take around 15-20 minutes to come through, as GMAIL fetches your POP/IMAP mails into its server every 15 minutes.
http://www.androidcentral.com/using-gmail-your-own-personal-push-mail-server
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Next alternative is using SEVEN MAIL! this is a brilliant app, very very easy to setup, and gives you mails in 5-10 minutes max!
here is the page where they have a direct download link for the SEVEN app
http://techie-buzz.com/mobile-news/seven-a-push-email-client-released-on-android-2-1.html
and above all, like Gmail, its also FREE!

Airosa said:
Same here.
With 4 email accounts, i feel like the only one that works correctly with push is Gmail.
Other emails have to be set through independent apps, if available, which is very annoying.
The native email app doesn't have a push option, draining battery every time it goes fetch.
Android is a powerhouse.
There's gotta be a solution for this.
I would like emails on the same app, and push.
I need a phone for business and the best email phone is still the Blackberry.
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I have to agree with you. How could google let us down? the email app is crap.... I miss iphone email client but i hate APPLE

Problem push mail motorola Razr
Hello i just got my razr 3 days ago is running 2.3.5 I just notice that i dont get my emails on time i have to keep refreshing every-time i happen either with gmail app nor email app i try to modify the settings but is not too much to set i try to delete the gmail update and still the same problem, i have also a blackberry and the emails goes straight away to my blackberry and after 30 or 40 to my razr which is very annoying i want to get rid of blackberry, Somebody knows how to fix it? thanks

Gmail and email

Yea it seems gmail never fails to give me my email notifications right on time, right when I receive mail I get a notification no more then 2 minutes later. But yahoo seems to never update and I get my email like 30 min to a hour later. So this must be droid telling me if I don't have gmail I won't get my notifications on time. Very bias of the android OS. And it sends nobody has a sure
fix for thus as I have searched the forums and have used k9 as well it all fails.
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Both GMail and Exchange mail support the feature called Push Email -- it pushes into your phone's inbox as soon as the mail server receives the email.
How do you setup your Yahoo email? I guess you used the POP3 email access which is pretty dumb and doesn't support push email (your phone has to check the mail server every so often to see if there is mail there.
There should be a Yahoo mail app created by Yahoo that also supports push email. You have to use that app in order to get the push email from Yahoo.
Hotmail now also supports push email via Exchange email support. So, no new email app needed.

I have one of my yahoo accounts set up on the yahoo app, but it only allows for one account as far as I know
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Then, call Yahoo and ask them to support multiple accounts. Yahoo, Gmail and hotmail all use properitary protocols for their email in addition to support the old POP3 protocol. Gmail and Hotmail have the added advantage of supporting Exchange ActiveSync. So, in order to take advantage of advanced feature like push email, you will need the native client from the respective email provider or use Exchange ActiveSync if there is support for it. It is not any kind of bais in Andriod OS. It is the fault of Yahoo falling way behind the technology curve. POP3 protocol is created like 20 to 30 years ago. Back then, emails often take days to reach the destination.
BTW, the phone's built-in email client only supports 2 Exchange accounts max. I know Gmail client supports multiple gmail accounts as well but not sure how many accounts it can support.

Yahoo does have an app, whether it's any good is a different story. I have tried both, the email app and the messenger app and they are very laggy, almost rendering the phone useless. Then again ymmv

Yahoo Mail working?

Ok, so a few days ago signed in with my user and pass & was able to get into yahoo for the stock email program.
Everything was working fine until i decided to send an email. User name and/or password invalid... Uhhhh what about all the emails I've been getting?
Ok, so I deleted the account and tried again.
User name and/or password invalid. What???!?! Ok so now I can't even add my yahoo account!
So i went to yahoo online, put in my user and pass - worked just fine.
What the heck? Has anyone else had any issues with setting up a yahoo email?
Thanks.

No problems here with yahoo email, send and receive just fine.
I'm using following settings :-
send
imap.mail.yahoo.com SSL 993
receive
smtp.mail.yahoo.com ssl 465
works a treat

Wow, thanks.
Very Strange that worked. It seems like HTC is added at the beginning of each imap and smtp server address.
I removed it at incoming and outgoing and it went through. Why the heck would HTC add those if they dont work?

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Very Strange that worked. It seems like HTC is added at the beginning of each imap and smtp server address
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Ah yes I recall that when I set mine up, like you say wtf is that about?

Did the same for me. Took off the htc . Works good now

Only reason I can think they would do that is maybe HTC is trying re route the mail to their servers to maybe push it faster?
I dont know, maybe its a beta thing and its still in its early days of testing. But I have set up 100 HTC phones and I have never seen HTC in the beginning of the server address.
But what really gets me stumped is the fact that the first 3 days I was getting mail WITH HTC in the front of all server addresses?

In addition to removing the htc. from the outgoing settings, check your username. When it sets up auto, it plugs in your entire email address. I had you remove the @yahoo from there also.

I like to use the yahoo mail client from the market. It pushes it I believe.

I have not been receiving emails from the stock Yahoo email program since yesterday morning but I can send emails from it. However, sending and receiving from stock Gmail works fine.
I tried the above settings (removing htc.), reinstalling Yahoo email, syncing, refreshing and rebooting, no help. T-mobile tech support says it may be a Yahoo server problem and only suggests to install Yahoo Mail app from the market (I did and it works, but I rather use the stock Yahoo mail).
Anyone has the same or similar problem w/ the stock Yahoo mail? Any other suggestions/fix?

I also tried removing the HTC from the settings and still won't receive any emails. I don't like using the yahoo mail app because it just add to battery usage since its pushed

ariel123 said:
I also tried removing the HTC from the settings and still won't receive any emails. I don't like using the yahoo mail app because it just add to battery usage since its pushed
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I called HTC yesterday, they had me try these settings but DID NOT work for me:
For INCOMING server settings:
Protocol: POP
POP server: pop.mail.yahoo.com
Security type: SSL
Server port: 993
For OUTGOING server settings:
SMTP server: smtp.mail.yahoo.com
Security type: SSL
Server port: 995
He said it is likely that Yahoo has problems connecting to Android and even Google has had similar issues. If this issue is not fixed before my 14 day return policy expires I will exchange for another phone.

Same problem on HTC Incredible 2, after alot of wasted time I couldnt get to work with IMAP settings I found a work arround to be able to use POP instead without yahoo plus. Sign in to your email, on the top where it says "hi (your email)" left click and click account in menu. It asked me to login again and took me to account info. scroll down and click "Set language, site, and time zone" set regional site as "Yahoo asia" and when you click on anything else it asks you to save, save. Now you can go into mail options and "pop and fowarding". Now you can setup a yahoo account with the default pop settings!!! and Yahoo mail works again on "mail app" !! : )

i tried that but the only options it gives me in the pop/fowarding is either have spam or block spam or foward to another email

Try This ..
Seems to work for me everytime ..
Yahoo
Incoming Setting
User Name:[email protected]
Password: Password of your yahoo mail
Incoming mail server: imap.n.mail.yahoo.com
Mailbox Name: Yahoo
Mailbox type: IMAP4
Security(Ports): Off
Port: 143
Outgoing Setting
Email Address:[email protected]
User Name:[email protected]
Password: Password of your yahoo mail
Outgoing mail server:smtp.mobile.mail.yahoo.com
Security(Ports): Off
Port:587

ariel123 said:
I also tried removing the HTC from the settings and still won't receive any emails. I don't like using the yahoo mail app because it just add to battery usage since its pushed
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I think polling eats more battery life than push. If you poll your email your phone has to make a connection to the server to poll it for new mail. This happens every x amount of minutes or hours. So even if there is no new mail the phone still will connect to the server and uses data and when your using data you're using more battery. With push email there server pushes the data to the phone only when it has to resulting in less overall trips to the server. Say you have your email to set to poll every 30 minutes. Its now 9 am. At noon you receive an email. By that time if you were polling your phone would have polled the server 6 times. Sending data to the server and waiting for a response from the server. If you had your email to push then when you got the email at 12 then the server would push it at 12 and that's it... I always prefer push email over pull.
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ariel123 said:
i tried that but the only options it gives me in the pop/fowarding is either have spam or block spam or foward to another email
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No don't mess with the pop spam pull down, you just have to check the dot that's just to the left that enables pop in general because its not enabled by default..
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Using default settings w/ the older version of Yahoo mail works perfectly.
Unfortunately I am using the "New" Yahoo mail account which currently cannot be switched back to the older version.
I sent Yahoo Mobile team a message regarding this issue (not receiving incoming Yahoo email from stock app). I will follow up w/ their reply.
In the meantime I'm using Yahoo mail app from the market; not liking it and Gmail sounds very tempting

pLAYdOPE said:
Using default settings w/ the older version of Yahoo mail works perfectly.
Unfortunately I am using the "New" Yahoo mail account which currently cannot be switched back to the older version.
I sent Yahoo Mobile team a message regarding this issue. I will follow up w/ their reply.
In the meantime I'm using Yahoo mail app from the market; not liking it and Gmail sounds very tempting
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Please explain what you mean by the "older version" of Yahoo mail. I tried this as well with no success.
I have been in contact with htc about the problem and they maintain that the issue is with Yahoo and an "unstable" implementation on Yahoo's side. They claim this is why Yahoo released an Android app for their mail system. Asked why it seems other devices can connect, they replied that "perhaps other manufacturers have found a way around the issue and modified the mail app on their device accordingly". Outside of the usual reset the data for the mail app, and factory reset the device there appears to be no answer forthcoming from htc.
I am able to connect via POP, and for now I think that may be the best option...

"perhaps other manufacturers have found a way around the issue and modified the mail app on their device accordingl" how can HTC rep even say this there other HTC Android phones that don't have this issue

[Q] Push email app

I'm looking for an email app that can handle multiple email accounts and push notifications. I want to have access to my yahoo mail, gmail, personal website mail, and work exchange mail.
SEVEN worked great, but isn't perfect. They have since pulled their app from the beta for android and don't seem to be supporting it anymore (at least not to the beta community anymore).
K9 - I read the yahoo push notifications work for some but not others. I'm trying it now but so far 1 test yahoo email didn't get pushed. I haven't had time to play with this anymore yet and only tried that 1 test.
Maildroid killed my batter in no time, so trying to avoid that - unless they've fixed that issue.
It also needs to support Android 2.3 since I'm using the Evo 3d.
One feature i'd like, but don't have to have is the ability to turn on/off the exchange email at will or set quiet hours specifically to that account and not all mail.
Thanks

gk1984 said:
I'm looking for an email app that can handle multiple email accounts and push notifications. I want to have access to my yahoo mail, gmail, personal website mail, and work exchange mail.
SEVEN worked great, but isn't perfect. They have since pulled their app from the beta for android and don't seem to be supporting it anymore (at least not to the beta community anymore).
K9 - I read the yahoo push notifications work for some but not others. I'm trying it now but so far 1 test yahoo email didn't get pushed. I haven't had time to play with this anymore yet and only tried that 1 test.
Maildroid killed my batter in no time, so trying to avoid that - unless they've fixed that issue.
It also needs to support Android 2.3 since I'm using the Evo 3d.
One feature i'd like, but don't have to have is the ability to turn on/off the exchange email at will or set quiet hours specifically to that account and not all mail.
Thanks
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Have you used latest version of seven 7.54? it have widget support too, i hav used it 2 month ago n was working smooth, if you dont have get it from here http://dl.dropbox.com/u/24917729/SEVEN 7.54.apk
Atleast for yahoo push mail thr is only two option, one is seven and other is yahoo mail. but yahoo mail is only for yahoo services. As per my knowledge rest using schedule pull rather thn real push mail. B'coz yahoo not having Idle IMAP facility.

thanks for clearing that up. Yes i do have the latest from Seven. i'll just stick with that. The only problem I have with it is not being able to stop work mail receiving separate from the others. I can use something else for that mail though.

Well I don't have push support for IMAP accounts but I do have push support for Exchange accounts. POP3 does not support push in any way, shape, or fashion in case you didn't know. The link to my app is in my signature. I have a free trial up on my website. If you did like it you could feel good about buying it because your money would be going to me who is a long time android contributor and XDA veteran

[Q] Looking for a good email client

I'd like to get a pop email client that will:
1. pull ALL of my email from a server the first time I use it (after that, of course, it just pulls the new stuff).
2. pull ALL the contents and attachments right away, not just the headers.
Is there anything out there? I have tried K9mail, but it's really hard to work with, and doesn't show an option to delete mail automatically after I download it. I've tried Maildroid, but it appears to only download the headers, and then I have to download the contents when I open the individual emails.

And the stock HTC email client doesn't do this?

I use the Gmail app and have set up my Comcast.net email to forward to my Gmail address (Comcast is POP3) since Gmail pushes email instantly to my phone. I have also set Gmail to use my Comcast address for sending mail, so it's actually going through Gmail but people receiving it see it as Comcast. Has worked great for me.

MailDroid best email app out there. Good Dev. Very flexible client.
Sent from my HTC Inspire 4G using Tapatalk

pazzo02 said:
I use the Gmail app and have set up my Comcast.net email to forward to my Gmail address (Comcast is POP3) since Gmail pushes email instantly to my phone. I have also set Gmail to use my Comcast address for sending mail, so it's actually going through Gmail but people receiving it see it as Comcast. Has worked great for me.
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What this guy said. GMail is probably your best option. I'm not sure if the others have push, but I love the push notifications.

Have a look at Enhanced Email.

K-9 Mail is pretty good. I found MailDroid the best for exchange server emails for my work emails.