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Unlock/Root/TWRP OTA updates?

I've only had two phones prior to this but I have always unlocked the boot loader / rooted the device / installed a custom recovery / installed custom ROMS.
I believe with my MOTO X 1st gen this disabled the OTA updates.
Is that the case with the Honor 8? I'm wondering if it is worth it to install TWRP at this point as there seems to be so little in the way of kernels and ROMS.
Would I still be able to use SU or Xposed modules without Root?
What is the best move with this phone?

I have unlocked my bootloader as well as rooted my Honor 8. The only way to get SU and Xposed is by doing both of these procedures(root involves getting TWRP).
As for any Xposed modules, I tried amplify+greenify but instead of getting better battery life, my standby time decreased significantly. I am not sure why, but for some reason my Cell standby was showing to be eating a ton of my battery. Another big problem was that the dialer app would not let me call anyone, it kept crashing whenever I tried to. Both problems were fixed after I managed to get amplify+greenify uninstalled. Currently I am just running YouTube AdAway and MinMinGuard which seem to work fine.
So at this point, is it worth unlocking bootleader, installing TWRP, and rooting your phone? Well if there are certain Xposed modules that you really want then sure, and if there are certain apps you like that require root, then yes go ahead and root your phone. Note that if you try any OTA updates, you will have to remove TWRP as having your phone automatically restart and try to install the update wont work.

Imagine that the Honor 8 receives an update to say, Nougat, what is the pathway to update for someone who has rooted their phone. Will the OTA be able to be flashed if a .zip is provided here? Would we need to flash an entirely new ROM?
This is what I faced with my MOTO X. When Marshmallow came out there was talk... but no one was working on the at phone any longer so was never able to update.

pairustwo said:
Imagine that the Honor 8 receives an update to say, Nougat, what is the pathway to update for someone who has rooted their phone. Will the OTA be able to be flashed if a .zip is provided here? Would we need to flash an entirely new ROM?
This is what I faced with my MOTO X. When Marshmallow came out there was talk... but no one was working on the at phone any longer so was never able to update.
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It doesnt matter whether or not your phone is rooted. You will get updates the same way, through OTA. Of course you can find .zip files to flash(although personally I am struggling to get the latest update flashed through TWRP).
The real question is for how long will we be receiving updates? Nougat is pretty much guaranteed with the new EMUI update. Huawei/Honor has promised up to 2 years of updates from what I have heard, but who knows what that actually means. They have also have a "partnership" with XDA, and the phone is decently popular so I am sure there will be a few roms, just not as many as say a OP3.

Why are people trying to flash via TWRP if the OTA updates still work after rooting and unlocking the boot loader?

pairustwo said:
Why are people trying to flash via TWRP if the OTA updates still work after rooting and unlocking the boot loader?
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Okay so I just figured it out, but for the OTA update to work after rooting and having a non-stock recovery, you need to go to Settings->Updater->Menu(located on the bottom)->Download latest full package.
The full package is ~1.6GB and the regular update is ~280mb. The full package will work even if you have TWRP installed. But if you want the regular 280mb update, you need to get rid of TWRP and go back to a stock recovery.
Of course you will need to reinstall TWRP and root your phone again after doing this update.

Rakeen70210 said:
Okay so I just figured it out, but for the OTA update to work after rooting and having a non-stock recovery, you need to go to Settings->Updater->Menu(located on the bottom)->Download latest full package.
The full package is ~1.6GB and the regular update is ~280mb. The full package will work even if you have TWRP installed. But if you want the regular 280mb update, you need to get rid of TWRP and go back to a stock recovery.
Of course you will need to reinstall TWRP and root your phone again after doing this update.
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I see the full package but I cant click on this, nothing is happened when I click on this.

Nas42O said:
I see the full package but I cant click on this, nothing is happened when I click on this.
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I am not sure what you mean. Do you mean you can see the text "Download latest full package" but it is greyed out? If so please check to see if you arent currently at the latest version. If there is another problem, you might want to try to find a .zip of the full package and flash it that way.

Rakeen70210 said:
I am not sure what you mean. Do you mean you can see the text "Download latest full package" but it is greyed out? If so please check to see if you arent currently at the latest version. If there is another problem, you might want to try to find a .zip of the full package and flash it that way.
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Yes , not greyed , but red color , and cant click on this .
I downloaded a full update of B31 about 1.77giga , just copy to the phone and flash it in twrp ?

Nas42O said:
Yes , not greyed , but red color , and cant click on this .
I downloaded a full update of B31 about 1.77giga , just copy to the phone and flash it in twrp ?
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The exact latest update that I currently have is FRD-L04C567B150. I am not sure where you got your update but I suggest you just flash back to a complete stock image and try to update again from there.

Rakeen70210 said:
The exact latest update that I currently have is FRD-L04C567B150. I am not sure where you got your update but I suggest you just flash back to a complete stock image and try to update again from there.
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its normal , you live in India no ?
i'm live in European country , so update are different .. Last update for us is FRD-L04C432B130

Nas42O said:
its normal , you live in India no ?
i'm live in European country , so update are different .. Last update for us is FRD-L04C432B130
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No I am in the US. I am not sure about the EU version, but yes if you can find a .zip update file just put it on your phone and go into TWRP to install it. Might wanna make a backup too and wipe cache too just in case.

So if i download the full package in update and install it, bootloader will still be open? No full wipe? And later i only need to install twrp and root the phone again?

Palindrom87 said:
So if i download the full package in update and install it, bootloader will still be open? No full wipe? And later i only need to install twrp and root the phone again?
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Updating or wiping your phone does not lock the Bootloader. The only way to lock the Bootloader again is by doing it manually yourself.
Yes after doing a full update you will need to reinstall TWRP as it will be replaced with the stock recovery and then re-root your phone again.

Rakeen70210, you sound really confident about doing full updates after rooting. Will these full updates also replace the kernel?
palendrome87 and NAS420 could you guys report back with any success or errors you have flashing full updates?
Where can one download full updates for Honor 8?

pairustwo said:
Rakeen70210, you sound really confident about doing full updates after rooting. Will these full updates also replace the kernel?
palendrome87 and NAS420 could you guys report back with any success or errors you have flashing full updates?
Where can one download full updates for Honor 8?
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Seeing as how the full update package was ~1.65GB in size, I think its ok to assume that it replaces everything with the stock Honor 8 image. So yes it will replace the kernel too.
For downloading full updates, the only way I got mine was an OTA directly from the phone itself. Look at my previous comments to see how I got this update. If for some reason you cant update, check if your model is ready for an update. If it is and you cant update, try to flash back to a stock image. You should be able to find one on this site or anywhere else.

Flash stock recovery will lock boot loader ?

Nas42O said:
Flash stock recovery will lock boot loader ?
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No, the only way to lock the bootloader is to manually lock it yourself using a similar operation to unlocking it.

Rakeen70210 said:
No, the only way to lock the bootloader is to manually lock it yourself using a similar operation to unlocking it.
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I thought the same thing, but after taking the full OTA update my bootloader was locked again. If you want to update I would suggest first making a full backup to the external SD card in TWRP.

Then , its better to download à full update ( update.zip) ,copy to root of the phone , reboot in twrp and flash it ? Anyone already did it ?

OTA Updates after unlock/root (Verizon)

First let me thank this community for the MANY years of great help pushing my devices to their limits. I've never register or posted because I've ALWAYS been able to find my answers with a simple search and really never have much to add.
This time I can't find a good answer. I hope this isn't too much of an amateur question.....
I purchased my Pixel via Verizon (I know....) and have unlocked the bootloader and rooted.
I really don't want to mess with custom ROM's for a while and I still want the latest stock version. How do I update to the latest version without losing recovery and root? Example: I updated to 7.1.1 the other day, then wiped, unlocked, installed recovery and rooted. I went back to 7.1 and don't know how to update to 7.1.1 again or other future versions. I hear that flashing stock rom from Google will wipe recovery and root. Is that correct?
Thanks again for all the years of sharing your experiences.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel/development/tool-skipsoft-android-toolkit-google-t3482761 download that
https://developers.google.com/android/ota download OTA images
use the toolkit to sideload flash the OTA.

foolie said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel/development/tool-skipsoft-android-toolkit-google-t3482761 download that
https://developers.google.com/android/ota download OTA images
use the toolkit to sideload flash the OTA.
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Thanks for the reply. Follow up question after scanning the toolkit description..... I'll look deeper into it in a bit.
This will retain root? Will using adb to sideload lose root?

I think so. You can just reflash SuperSU in recovery :good:

Farmer Tony said:
First let me thank this community for the MANY years of great help pushing my devices to their limits. I've never register or posted because I've ALWAYS been able to find my answers with a simple search and really never have much to add.
This time I can't find a good answer. I hope this isn't too much of an amateur question.....
I purchased my Pixel via Verizon (I know....) and have unlocked the bootloader and rooted.
I really don't want to mess with custom ROM's for a while and I still want the latest stock version. How do I update to the latest version without losing recovery and root? Example: I updated to 7.1.1 the other day, then wiped, unlocked, installed recovery and rooted. I went back to 7.1 and don't know how to update to 7.1.1 again or other future versions. I hear that flashing stock rom from Google will wipe recovery and root. Is that correct?
Thanks again for all the years of sharing your experiences.
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That's not possible. If you installed the 7.1.1 update you wouldn't have been able to unlock the bootloader again. So you must have had it unlocked before the update.

aholeinthewor1d said:
That's not possible. If you installed the 7.1.1 update you wouldn't have been able to unlock the bootloader again. So you must have had it unlocked before the update.
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I updated, then decided to root so I factory reset which brought me back to 7.1...... I didn't even know it wouldn't work on 7.1.1 so I guess I was lucky to have done so. I just thought it would be safer to start with a clean slate.
It wasn't until I noticed I could no longer double tap to see notifications that I realized that was only in 7.1.1 and noticed that I couldn't update to it anymore.
Edit: Maybe when I said "wiped" I should have said "factory reset".

foolie said:
I think so. You can just reflash SuperSU in recovery :good:
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I figured I could do this as a last resort but would love to side load and just go about my day. Nice to know that there wouldn't be an issue, thanks.

I realize this isn't my thread, but... I flashed factory image to my Pixel but the recovery flashing failed. How can I get stock recovery back on so I can take the update?

Crowick said:
I realize this isn't my thread, but... I flashed factory image to my Pixel but the recovery flashing failed. How can I get stock recovery back on so I can take the update?
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Use the skipsoft toolkit and try again with a new factory image download.

foolie said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel/development/tool-skipsoft-android-toolkit-google-t3482761 download that
https://developers.google.com/android/ota download OTA images
use the toolkit to sideload flash the OTA.
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sorry I'm a total newb, where is the sideload option? I keep looking but don't see it

mrj0087 said:
sorry I'm a total newb, where is the sideload option? I keep looking but don't see it
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There's a section 'Updating instructions' in the OTA page (linked above) with instructions. Not for the faint of heart if you're unfamiliar with ADB.

It's on the toolkit options after you select your device.

Do you mean you booted into recovery and reflashed because I've actually been wondering almost exactly what you have.
I have a VZW pixel that I unlocked and rooted via adb/fastboot and I've been wonder if accepting a Verizon OTA would unroot me, and relock the bootloader. The 2nd Verizon update as we know disabled depixel and grayed out the option in dev options but do current OTA updates (not images I downloaded myself) unroot and relock which would prevent me from unlocking and getting root again

[Problem] Can't install Nougat update

So this morning i finally got the Nougat update. I downloaded it and waited for it to get verified. Got a pop-up saying install now, install later and don't install. I pressed install now waited and... Nothing happend. Went to software update in the settings and tried there, the same thing happened. Help is appreciated.

XenosRi said:
So this morning i finally got the Nougat update. I downloaded it and waited for it to get verified. Got a pop-up saying install now, install later and don't install. I pressed install now waited and... Nothing happend. Went to software update in the settings and tried there, the same thing happened. Help is appreciated.
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i think you must install firmware first
look at here https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71609608&postcount=3

XenosRi said:
So this morning i finally got the Nougat update. I downloaded it and waited for it to get verified. Got a pop-up saying install now, install later and don't install. I pressed install now waited and... Nothing happend. Went to software update in the settings and tried there, the same thing happened. Help is appreciated.
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Do you have stock recovery or did you install TWRP? Have you ever mounted /system read/write?
To take an OTA (besides flashing it in TWRP and the firmware seperate) you need stock recovery and an untouched /system image.

Phildu91 said:
i think you must install firmware first
look at here https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71609608&postcount=3
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No, only to update from MM to N using a RUU. Not needed when updating with OTA.

JohnRogers23 said:
Do you have stock recovery or did you install TWRP? Have you ever mounted /system read/write?
To take an OTA (besides flashing it in TWRP and the firmware seperate) you need stock recovery and an untouched /system image.
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I didn't find out why i couldn't install it, also i wasn't rooted, but i did a factory reset and that seemed to fix it! Now im on Nougat with no problems!

trying to update from Marshmallow 1.56.73.70(Orange France) to Nougat via OTA and i can't install...what must i do?
HTC One A9 non rooted , bootloader unlocked and S-On

Phildu91 said:
trying to update from Marshmallow 1.56.73.70(Orange France) to Nougat via OTA and i can't install...what must i do?
HTC One A9 non rooted , bootloader unlocked and S-On
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Might want to restore your phone with the 1.56.73.70 ruu, after the ota should install fine since everything will be back to stock.

Trying to update my sprint a9 from 1.10.651.1 to nougat, what do i need to do? Im trying to system update via ota to 1.57 but always failed to verified my device?
My phone got supercid, s-off, bootloader unlocked, and non rooted. Can i convert it to global unlock?

imtawakkal said:
Trying to update my sprint a9 from 1.10.651.1 to nougat, what do i need to do? Im trying to system update via ota to 1.57 but always failed to verified my device?
My phone got supercid, s-off, bootloader unlocked, and non rooted. Can i convert it to global unlock?
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I believe you need to put your CID back to the Sprint one, and make sure you have an untouched (not even mounted r/w) system partition with stock recovery.

JohnRogers23 said:
I believe you need to put your CID back to the Sprint one, and make sure you have an untouched (not even mounted r/w) system partition with stock recovery.
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I alrd got cid back to sprint one, trying to update my phone with ruu, but always got error 132, and my phone already locked from the black screen bootloader, what did i do wrong from that?

imtawakkal said:
I alrd got cid back to sprint one, trying to update my phone with ruu, but always got error 132, and my phone already locked from the black screen bootloader, what did i do wrong from that?
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Are you updating to Nougat from the RUU or are you trying to get back to stock to take an OTA? Those are two different but similar processes. Make sure you've got the right RUU for sprint and your version as well.

JohnRogers23 said:
Are you updating to Nougat from the RUU or are you trying to get back to stock to take an OTA? Those are two different but similar processes. Make sure you've got the right RUU for sprint and your version as well.
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First i want to update to nougat via ruu, but always getting error when flashing the firmware.zip, then im trying to use ruu method to back to stock so i can use the ota, im alrd got the right ruu, but it seems it doesnt works

imtawakkal said:
First i want to update to nougat via ruu, but always getting error when flashing the firmware.zip, then im trying to use ruu method to back to stock so i can use the ota, im alrd got the right ruu, but it seems it doesnt works
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Did you try flashing the entire RUU for the version you're on right now?

My phone is UK version, i was rooted but flashed the following RUU so that i could return to stock
HTC AERO UHL
1.56.91.71
2PQ9IMG_H[email protected]60122.4_43.05_F_release_471092_signed.zip
EE UK
modelid: 2PQ910000
cidnum: ORANG001
Link: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24457741883932916
md5: d9fb062162157e6d40adfaa057947f9e
Yesterday i finally recieved the OTA update for NOUGAT but when it downloaded and i pressed install, it loaded halfway in bootloader and eventually failed ending up with triangle and exclamation sign.
I am unrooted and bootloader relocked.
Please help, i have already waited months for this update
Please help anyone!!

flash stock recovery or RUU.

I have similar problem of receiving an error (signarure error:132) while trying update my device by using RUU side load, i have the right RUU for my device but i still receive errors please help me with this
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I have similar problem of receiving an error (signarure error:132) while trying update my device by using RUU side load, i have the right RUU for my device but i still receive errors please help me with this or if there is any chance i can flash stock recovery please tell me how b'se my device seems to have a modified system and recovery may be this is the problem preventing me from update my device by using RUU side load

Question [OOS] [12] Official???

I got a new update tonight. It is for OS 12. I might be wrong. I Google the numbers on my update. Google says it is a update for 12 on oneplus 9/9 pro. I Bricked my device when i tried to magisk to flash boot for OTA updates before reboot. so this time I will just try the update.

yup its android 12 i just updated. you cant update while rooted or the bootloader unlocked just something to keep in mind

funkybear34 said:
yup its android 12 i just updated. you cant update while rooted or the bootloader unlocked just something to keep in mind
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I tried once from total stock after msm tool. And it booted but my touch screen did not work. Buttons did but not the touchscreen

wildestweasal said:
I tried once from total stock after msm tool. And it booted but my touch screen did not work. Buttons did but not the touchscreen
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it could be you had the wrong rom for your phone idk. i tried diffrent roms than i went back to stock and its been working fine for me.

funkybear34 said:
yup its android 12 i just updated. you cant update while rooted or the bootloader unlocked just something to keep in mind
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Hi there, would this meant I have to:
1. unroot me chinese le2110 with european OS11
2. lock the bootloader again
3. than update to OS12 european
4. and than unlock the bootloader
5. and root again?
Am I right?

Question unlocked bootloader OTA ?

Hello, I'm going to unlock the bootloader to root, I would like to know if it continues to receive and install OTA updates even unlocked.

rodrigodcf said:
Hello, I'm going to unlock the bootloader to root, I would like to know if it continues to receive and install OTA updates even unlocked.
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Unlocked yes rooted no. Not unless you restore stock images then direct install magisk to active slot after ota installs.