Allways on display - how its done? - HTC U11+ Questions & Answers

Hi guys, any idea how htc managed to implement aod in u11+? Whole display is backlit when aod used or they used some new technique?

Nothing special. The whole display backlight is used, just that it's quite dim. I imagine the display probably has lower power usage for them to even add an option of having the AOD display all day long.

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Brightness lower limit?

I was trying to lower the brightness very low to test how it would affect battery drain and it seems that the phone won't let 3rd party apps lower the brightness lower than what you can set it to, in the phone's settings. I tried an app called timerrific that lets you schedule various settings changes, but the phone seems to be overriding it. When I set the brightness to go down to 15% via the app, it does go very dim, but then immediately bounces back up to lowest level the phone's settings let's you set it at. Also, I had auto brightness off and the power saving mode off.
Has anyone been able to get the phone to go to very low brightness?
Thats a good question and would like the answer too... to me, the lowest brightness which must still HOG the battery as sometimes it seems to drain very fast with usage (and I have it on the lowest setting)... seems overly bright. I would without a doubt use it at a lower brightness to conserve energy depending on what I was doing at the time.
hey maybe its just the screen that makes it look bright
labbu63 said:
hey maybe its just the screen that makes it look bright
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Not sure what you mean? For example, if I set the brightness to go down to 5% through the app Timeriffic, the screen will dim down to where I can barely see anything, but then it immediately raises back up to the lowest setting you can set in the phone's normal settings, which seems to me to be about 25-30%.
Yep
labbu63 said:
hey maybe its just the screen that makes it look bright
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This is actually correct, the screen is what makes the "Automatic" brightness setting on the SGS phones look brighter than their LCD brethren. As we all know, currently all AMOLED displays use some kind of Pentile Matrix. All HTC devices (The N1 included) currently use RG:BG Pentile Matrix.
Do a google search on: "RGBG Pentile" and Samsung's site details it.
The SAMOLED display Samsung has made uses a new Pentile Matrix called RGBW:
Do a google search on: "nouvoyance" and it's the first site (sorry for the odd instructions, won't let new users post links )
Using the new RGBW, a white subpixel is introduced on top of the standard RGB stripe. From my reading, this allows the screen to achieve the same resolution to the eye with 33% less subpixels and is a brighter display in the process.
Asori said:
This is actually correct, the screen is what makes the "Automatic" brightness setting on the SGS phones look brighter than their LCD brethren. As we all know, currently all AMOLED displays use some kind of Pentile Matrix. All HTC devices (The N1 included) currently use RG:BG Pentile Matrix.
Do a google search on: "RGBG Pentile" and Samsung's site details it.
The SAMOLED display Samsung has made uses a new Pentile Matrix called RGBW:
Do a google search on: "nouvoyance" and it's the first site (sorry for the odd instructions, won't let new users post links )
Using the new RGBW, a white subpixel is introduced on top of the standard RGB stripe. From my reading, this allows the screen to achieve the same resolution to the eye with 33% less subpixels and is a brighter display in the process.
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Good explanation, but are saying that no you can't dim it to low levels because it makes it look brighter than it is? If so, I don't buy it. I see it being dimmed to a low level. It just doesn't stay there.
Aldiko reader can get the screen even more dim
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Also since there is less air gap in the new display, it is brighter.
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This is just me speculating, but I'm thinking maybe the brightness setting is universal to android devices, except that it's calibrated to normal lcd. So the same voltage(or however they regulate the display brightness) on an LCD will look brighter on the Super AMOLED. For me, the dim setting on the auto-brightness seems too bright.
One thing I've noticed is I can take the brightness down to its lowest setting and it still seems bright..however on almost every phone I've used its like this.
The weird thing is on the Captivate I can open the browser, men then scroll down to settings and it has a brightness toggle there that takes it lower.
nbohmer said:
One thing I've noticed is I can take the brightness down to its lowest setting and it still seems bright..however on almost every phone I've used its like this.
The weird thing is on the Captivate I can open the browser, men then scroll down to settings and it has a brightness toggle there that takes it lower.
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Yeah that does take it down lower than the home screen by a small amount. I put the browser brightness on the lowest setting and the global brightness on the lowest. Both auto brightness and power save are off. When I switch from the browser to the home screen, it brightens up a touch. So, it does go lower, but not all that much though, and it's only for the browser.
pjs2004 said:
Good explanation, but are saying that no you can't dim it to low levels because it makes it look brighter than it is? If so, I don't buy it. I see it being dimmed to a low level. It just doesn't stay there.
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You can totally dim it more. In doing so, it will use even less power than an LCD screen at the same brightness setting.
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You can totally dim it more. In doing so, it will use even less power than an LCD screen at the same brightness setting.
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Yeah, that's what I thought was cool about this type of screen, but I still don't know how to to dim it below the the lowest setting in the phone's control panel (which isn't very low). 3rd party apps I've tried don't really work, or they work, but the phone immediately raises it back up. Are you saying you've dimmed it down to where you can barley see the screen, like 5-10 percent? That's what I'm looking for confirmation on. If so, what app did you use?
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Yeah, that's what I thought was cool about this type of screen, but I still don't know how to to dim it below the the lowest setting in the phone's control panel (which isn't very low). 3rd party apps I've tried don't really work, or they work, but the phone immediately raises it back up. Are you saying you've dimmed it down to where you can barley see the screen, like 5-10 percent? That's what I'm looking for confirmation on. If so, what app did you use?
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I have used this app and seems to be pretty good, makes the brightness lower than system brightness.
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-curvefish-widgets-brightnesslevel-jDiB.aspx
i use brightness level too but the brightness goes back to the highest level when you plug the phone in and you cant use the presets on the widget anymore
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I have used this app and seems to be pretty good, makes the brightness lower than system brightness.
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-curvefish-widgets-brightnesslevel-jDiB.aspx
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I tried this app, and while it's a good app, it still doesn't make the screen go super dim. It looks to me like the lowest level (0%) is the same as lowest setting from the control panel. Zero percent should really be totally black.
Screen Filter
Here is your 100% working solution.
It doesn't work with the bright level, it applies a shade/filter to the screen. No matter what app you're using.
Set the bright to the lowest with your default system settings, because if you use a third party that goes below normal, with some apps like explorer, it set it to minimum allowed be system or whatever you set and then you will notice a setp up, shaded but a change.
I'm using it weeks ago and I found it's the best choice to suft the web at night. Also you can turn off softkeys lights
http://www.appbrain.com/app/screen-filter/com.haxor
flash speedmods new kernel.

Focus/Omnia 7 auto dimming

is there any way at all to disable the screen from dimming on backgrounds with too much white? i think its ridiculous that they built this functionality into the phone without an option to turn it off, is there anyway to tweak the registry? i got the phone because of the screen but if i cant enjoy bright backgrounds n what not theres not much point
There is a option for that. "Screen brightness", switch from Auto to Low/Med/High
no thats not the issue, i have it on high with auto off, yet it still dims when theres too many white pixels on the screen, apparently its built into the samsung driver for the screen, really considering returning it due to this
kdub1987 said:
no thats not the issue, i have it on high with auto off, yet it still dims when theres too many white pixels on the screen, apparently its built into the samsung driver for the screen, really considering returning it due to this
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I immediately noticed this effect when testing an Omnia 7 in a mobile phone shop here in Switzerland and I found that quite annoying.
Try moving from page to page in the Office app. You'll notice a decrease in screen brightness when more white pixels are shown. At least that seems to be how the built-in algorithm works.
I prefer the 4.3" screen of the HTC HD7.

Is there a way to keep the screen always on ?

Hi!
It may look strange, but I really would like to keep the screen of the gear watch always on, at the lowest possible light setting and that when the watch detects the wrist movement, the light settings come back to the normal one.
I'm sure this will add up to very low battrey life. But if I can get a day like this, it would be great!
Thanks!
I wanted this at first, because coming from the Pebble -it's just so convenient having the screen accessible all the time and the gesture doesn't always register.My idea was that it should just be a very minimal screen in terms of pixel use to leverage the power saving qualities of the AMOLED tech. Problem is, the AMOLED screen is also known for burn-in on the phones, so I'm afraid even if we set this it would damage the watch screen in the long run (and I would be ok if I only got a day of use also, as I'm fine charging every night anyways).
There is a watchface called "AlwaysWatch" in the Samsung Gear store that's supposed to give you an always on face until the battery runs out. Problem is, it runs as an app instead of the default face and of course I'm afraid to try it due to the burn-in issue. I sent the developer a note saying make the watchface a small, but still legible digital font instead of analog and float the time around the screen periodically would get around this burn-in risk, we'll see if he adds the option.
Thanks for the info on this app (I also have a pebble ).
In order not to burn the screen, it would be preferable to change the watchface form time to time and put it in the lowet light possible...
FixB said:
Thanks for the info on this app (I also have a pebble ).
In order not to burn the screen, it would be preferable to change the watchface form time to time and put it in the lowet light possible...
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One of my disappointments besides the flaky gesture wake up is that there doesn't seem to be an ambient light sensor to trigger screen brightness changes. I would have thought that would be a no brainer for a device such as this by now.
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One of my disappointments besides the flaky gesture wake up is that there doesn't seem to be an ambient light sensor to trigger screen brightness changes. I would have thought that would be a no brainer for a device such as this by now.
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Maybe the camera light sensor in the Gear 2 could be used for that purpose?

[Request] Module/ switch to keep Always on display dimm or bright all time

For example if i'm at home or outdoor the AOD keeps low brightness all the time. I think the bright mode is too bright. At least for me. I have seen some other users asking for this too.
Even now, when i'm siting and writing this post the AOD randomly turns on brightness, after a minute turns off, and back on again There's no light change in my room. I have updated to the latest version. Some time ago I saw this feature in rom, but can't remember witch one. Back then developer said it's kernel related feature.
Just throwing some ideas but would be cool if there were an option to only turn on AOD when there is a notification.
tooomins said:
For example if i'm at home or outdoor the AOD keeps low brightness all the time. I think the bright mode is too bright. At least for me. I have seen some other users asking for this too.
Even now, when i'm siting and writing this post the AOD randomly turns on brightness, after a minute turns off, and back on again There's no light change in my room. I have updated to the latest version. Some time ago I saw this feature in rom, but can't remember witch one. Back then developer said it's kernel related feature.
Just throwing some ideas but would be cool if there were an option to only turn on AOD when there is a notification.
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It's called ambient display. U find it in Superman ROM,amabasadi v20
Such things are not available by now. You have to wait until samsung releases updates

Honor magic always on display

good morning. please is there a way for activate this function? i don't find it even if i already updated to last version. i see only display always turned on but this is not always on display....
perhaps is impossible to read in screen off only the notifications when arrive and i understood bad?
if i keep display always on, the battery drains, this is not always on display...
i hope a answer.
thanks
display always turned on is your always on display. It just means a part of the display is always on. It's an AMOLED Panel, so the phone can turn on/off every single pixel for itself. Also every black pixel is off, so only the pixel, which are turned on need to be lighted. Therefore it doesn't drain the battery too much.
The Path is: Settings > Home Screen & Background (or similar, 3rd point) > Display always active

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