My mate 7 is rooted and with custom recovery (TWRP) instaled. Due to these modifications I am not able to get OTA updates from Huawei.
In order to get access to them, again, do I have to unroot and instal stock recovery , or can I only instal stock recovery and keep phone rooted?
many thanks
You need to unroot and instal stock recovery.
I decided, seeing as so many mate7 owners are bricking their phone, I will leave mine with root and CWM on kitkat and it can't get an OTA that will spoil it.
If there were a decent recovery flashable ROM I'd have a current backup and try it, but there's nothing out there with full functionality so kitkat stays.
The phone works really well as is. The mods I've applied give good performance and function. Why try to reinvent it just to say I have a newer OS?
RobboW said:
I decided, seeing as so many mate7 owners are bricking their phone, I will leave mine with root and CWM on kitkat and it can't get an OTA that will spoil it.
If there were a decent recovery flashable ROM I'd have a current backup and try it, but there's nothing out there with full functionality so kitkat stays.
The phone works really well as is. The mods I've applied give good performance and function. Why try to reinvent it just to say I have a newer OS?
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What mods have you applied?
I'm running 5.1.1 on my gold model and found quite a significant performance boost. On KK I was experiencing choppy UI more often than not. The battery has slightly improved as well. Not that it's bad in any way running KK though...
I would kill to get a stock ROM (or a CM ROM) running on this phone, or even just Xposed. But alas, EMUI just won't budge.
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What mods have you applied?
I'm running 5.1.1 on my gold model and found quite a significant performance boost. On KK I was experiencing choppy UI more often than not. The battery has slightly improved as well. Not that it's bad in any way running KK though...
I would kill to get a stock ROM (or a CM ROM) running on this phone, or even just Xposed. But alas, EMUI just won't budge.
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On KK B130 I have unlocked bootloader, root, CWM recovery, de-bloated apps and launcher, installed Viper4Android, xperia keyboard and an old version of xposed withe some modules. It has other stuff too. Runs fast. No urgent need for a new ROM. Modded a lot to be really simple, lol. It is a pleasure to use.
For choppy UI, I enabled the setting to force GPU rendering in 2D applications. It's in developer options. You can also reduce or turn off animations.
I've installed a Kernel adjusting app too. Changed some settings, made the phone respond faster and read ahead performance increased. This made bluetooth streaming perform a lot better and it's just nice to use.
The stock governor settings keep the phone on the low speed cores as much as possible and this kills UI performance and makes UE disappointing. I also removed the Huawei launcher after installing Smart Launcher Pro.
I'm thinking of removing the OTA update app and permanently run B130 with no chance of updating it without use of CWM recovery to flash it.
So how many of yourselves who have the S6 have chose to stick to Marshmallow and not upgraded to Nougat? Please give your reasons which would be great.
Personally the main reasons why I haven't tried any roms is moreso I don't like messing about with Magisk for root, there isn't too many choices in terms of kernel choice and also my own rom preference is something that is stock, very minimal mods and also debloated.
I hope supersu is updated to work properly with our device on nougat and although our device is getting old some further development kernel wise would be great, I'm currently running an old stock rom called CaS rom which works pretty well so I shall bide my time until there are more options.
SuperSU is working great on Nougat, I think the users are using wrong recovery image.
almost every standard thing you do with supersu you can do it with magisk so no reason to stay on MM just flash this rom and done https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/samsung-galaxy-s-6--s-6-edge-unified-development/noble-nougat-rom-1-0-t3565293
Dude you don't know how much Nougat is bad until you try...I am on mm with arter kernel this thing is awesome...I installed Nougat 2 days later I downloaded because of slow WiFi too much bs options battery the same nothing changed except the look it's even worse....Nougat need custom kernel that's all I can say
I'm not really a very advanced user, but always had rooted devices and two that I flashed Custom Roms. This is my first Samsung, finding Touchwiz to be very different from what I used before.
I bought the S7 (930F) and had the news that it was going to be updated to Oreo, so I decided waiting for the update before tinkering with it.. But the update never came. Finally this month Samsung released the update for my region, so I would like to know which would be the best way for me to start finally using my phone that I bought for over 2 months!
My phone is still with Nougat, is it better for me to get the OTA or to flash the Firmware I downloaded from Sammobile? Any of these methods better than the other in preventing errors? I always found in PCs that a fresh clean install was better than an update, but with mobiles I don't have the experience to say.
My main objective is to experiment before doing a debloat as I'm still not sure what might be useful for me on Samsung's bloat (you are welcome to point me what is useful and what is not).
I did see that some of the Customs ROMS have different camera apps and some people were complaining about this, I particularly liked the S7 camera app and the Pro option, that's what holds me back in flashing a Custom ROM atm.
I would like to Root and I find Unlocked Bootloader to be useful to have Xposed Framework and other things that I can do having it.
As I'm a relative newbie, what would you guys recommend me doing? Please help
tl;dr: I want to have Oreo, be able to debloat, want to root and unlock bootloader, not sure about Custom Rom.
Lineage if you want basic and simple (sort of like stock Android). Resurrection Remix if you're a customisation nut (not a slam... I use RR).
If you wonna full samsung u need flash base firmawre custom roms only 8.0 android
If you dnt need samsung integration (pulsometr doesnt work) you can flash 8.1 roms try cosmic os or Lineage 15
By all means, read @Neffy27 's FAQ if you are starting out. even as a refresher for stuff you may have forgotten.
-But do think a bit about what you are doing:
-Do not modify your phone unless you are willing to toss it into the trash, as that could well be the result, no matter how well planned.
-Always have a spare on hand. I used my old Moto G3 when my MZP died suddenly. Worked just fine. You know, things really haven't changed all that much since Gingerbread...
-If you are going to be getting the latest OTA stuff by doing a full flash you might want to reflect on just how much, or little, you would gain. We all like to think that if we have the latest security patch we are somehow more safe, though I don't believe I have ever heard of a phone being affected by something just because it is not on the latest patch. I was running my old Moto z play on an aug '18 (if I remember correctly) patch with no problems up until a few weeks ago when it was done in by an expanding battery envelope which cracked the display. Consider, also, that many of the custom roms that are available are not updated at all - it takes a ton of work to try to get/keep a custom ROM current, AND working! Yet you never hear of viruses or the like.
- Be aware that if you modify ANYTHING on your phone, even as little as a new boot logo to cover up the unlocked bootloader message, you will prevent your phone from taking any further OTA updates. Some mods, like adding TWRP, may still allow it to try to download and install an OTA, but when it reboots to finish that install, it will fail since it needs to re-boot through stock recovery to complete. And it will continue offering you that update.
- There is a difference between the partition structure in our phones on 8.x, and those on 9. 9 is not full Treble, only a "partial" Treble, and really only the addition of a second set of partitions which OTA updates can use to update the system - instead of modifying the single partition set, it modifies the other (a or b) set and boots to that on update completion. If it fails it can always boot the other set. Theoretically! Makes it safer than the old way of doing OTA updates, but this may cause problems if you try to flash a 2 partition set phone with a single partition set ROM. I don't believe anyone has run any experiments on this, so YOU, when you flash things without thinking about the situation, may get an unusable phone. I do not know the answer here. If you read these forums which detail other's problems, you may trod a bit more hesitantly!
-The idea here is to have fun, and sometimes to experiment with new things. To a newbie, losing the use of a $200 phone can be a tough life lesson. Let's help them out by helping them to be cautious!
Agreed. I've been running stock with January 2018 patch, TWRP installed and Magisk for root and successful safety net bypass.
I'm looking to see if running Lineage will help streamline any update processes. It looks like they have their own recovery too.
Maintaining root has become a pain in my ass the past few years.
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Agreed. I've been running stock with January 2018 patch, TWRP installed and Magisk for root and successful safety net bypass.
I'm looking to see if running Lineage will help streamline any update processes. It looks like they have their own recovery too.
Maintaining root has become a pain in my ass the past few years.
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I would be careful about lineage as folks don't seem to be able to get back to stock from it.
I agree about maintaining root. I will likely just stay on stock with this one.
First of all. I have a Poco X3 Pro with 8GB RAM and 256GB Storage. MIUI is v12.5.2.0 (RJUEUXM). Model says M2102J20SG. I Have bought my phone 8 months ago and yesterday I decided to unlock it, mistakenly thinking that would let me disable the Xiaomi apps I do not like.
TL; DR:
1) Can I root my phone with stock rom?
2) Can I disable Xiaomi apps on stock rom if I root it?
3) Any suggestions for me with priority on stability over performance?
I have not been involved in rooting a phone in many years. The last android phone I had and rooted was a ZTE Blade and I mean the first Blade, which was like over a decade ago. After that I did a mistake to go on iPhone and then on an LG G6, that never made me feel like I needed to root it honestly.
The main reason I want to root my phone is to debloat it safely, removing/freezing/disabling quite a lot of Xiaomi's extra software, that I just do not want on my phone. MIUI seems quite enjoyable to me, although I have to admit, due to how I am worried that updating it will make my phone more sluggy and will affect battery life, I have yet to ever update it, still being on version 12.5.2.0.
I honestly would not mind to use a custom rom, but my preference is always stability over performance, except if that would offer me extra battery life and the current MIUI's battery life is beyond excellent in my experience, but maybe because LG G6's battery life was never that good since the day I bought it. I am definitely open to suggestions, about the course of action you people think I should take.
You can use adb commands to disable apps, but speaking from experience, you can only disable so much before things start to break, and some of the most annoying things (to me) cannot be disabled without breaking something. Also, when you update the system, all disabled things will most likely re-enable and you have to do the whole process all over again.
If you like MIUI, uninstall apps that can be uninstalled normally and use it as it is, or (and I highly recommend it) install custom ROM. If you want stability, ArrowOS or Crdroid is what you should take a look at. ArrowOS comes with gapps, while Crdroid offers tons of customization and comes as Vanilla (you can flash gapps seperately, if you want).
You sure can root your phone with stock Miui. However, you need to unlock the bootloader, first. It implies loosing all your current data. After that is done, I see no point in running stock miui, I'd go for xiaomi.eu's stable or any of the AOSP roms currently available.
I'm currently running latest crDRoid, which I'm quite enjoying. It's based of LineageOS with added tweaks and is shipped without gapps - you must installed after flashing the ROM.
Make sure you understand the process:
1. Unlock bootloader - you must wait for the 7 days to do so.
2. Flash a recovery. I suggest looking for a beta of a recovery that supports Android 12 decryption, try Nebrassy's TWRP
3. Flash your preferred ROM
4. Root it with Magisk+useful modules: safetynetfix, gms doze, etc.
Enjoy.
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You can use adb commands to disable apps, but speaking from experience, you can only disable so much before things start to break, and some of the most annoying things (to me) cannot be disabled without breaking something. Also, when you update the system, all disabled things will most likely re-enable and you have to do the whole process all over again.
If you like MIUI, uninstall apps that can be uninstalled normally and use it as it is, or (and I highly recommend it) install custom ROM. If you want stability, ArrowOS or Crdroid is what you should take a look at. ArrowOS comes with gapps, while Crdroid offers tons of customization and comes as Vanilla (you can flash gapps seperately, if you want).
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No, adb commands is something I definitely do not want to do. I want the system to allow me to actually disable something, without any sort of "brute forcing", mostly cause like you mentioned, I am worried of breaking things. I do not per se dislike google apps, but honestly if I can have as less as possible, it would be better for me. I will look into both the custom roms you mentioned, thank you =)
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You sure can root your phone with stock Miui. However, you need to unlock the bootloader, first. It implies loosing all your current data. After that is done, I see no point in running stock miui, I'd go for xiaomi.eu's stable or any of the AOSP roms currently available.
I'm currently running latest crDRoid, which I'm quite enjoying. It's based of LineageOS with added tweaks and is shipped without gapps - you must installed after flashing the ROM.
Make sure you understand the process:
1. Unlock bootloader - you must wait for the 7 days to do so.
2. Flash a recovery. I suggest looking for a beta of a recovery that supports Android 12 decryption, try Nebrassy's TWRP
3. Flash your preferred ROM
4. Root it with Magisk+useful modules: safetynetfix, gms doze, etc.
Enjoy.
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I unlocked the bootloader just yesterday, so I am done with the first part. I will definitely be checking crDroid, since it seems I can't get rid of MIUI what annoys me the most, which is it's bloatware. I guess since you guys mention to try a custom rom, I should give it a try at least, since i went ahead and unlocked the bootloader anyway. Thank you for the suggestion!
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Also, when you update the system, all disabled things will most likely re-enable and you have to do the whole process all over again.
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If you uninstall them via ADB on the active user profile they will stay uninstalled even after an update. I did so with 12.5.5 and upgraded to 13.0.1 a while back and they stayed uninstalled.
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No, adb commands is something I definitely do not want to do. I want the system to allow me to actually disable something, without any sort of "brute forcing", mostly cause like you mentioned, I am worried of breaking things. I do not per se dislike google apps, but honestly if I can have as less as possible, it would be better for me. I will look into both the custom roms you mentioned, thank you =)
I unlocked the bootloader just yesterday, so I am done with the first part. I will definitely be checking crDroid, since it seems I can't get rid of MIUI what annoys me the most, which is it's bloatware. I guess since you guys mention to try a custom rom, I should give it a try at least, since i went ahead and unlocked the bootloader anyway. Thank you for the suggestion!
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You could also try XiaomiEU rom, which is basically what you want: debloated MIUI. But to have true control over the apps and features you want, rom like Crdroid is the way to go.
Oh I have seen Xiaomi EU mentioned a lot, but I kept thinking it was just the European stock roms. I just looked it up thanks to you and it indeed looks exactly like what I was asking for. I wanted to stay on MIUI cause I really worry that if it is not vanilla, it might cause problems and most importantly battery life ones.
I probably will be trying to go for crDroid, but for now I am worried I might make a mistake. I would hate it if I ended up bricking my phone, since I love Poco X3 Pro.
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Oh I have seen Xiaomi EU mentioned a lot, but I kept thinking it was just the European stock roms. I just looked it up thanks to you and it indeed looks exactly like what I was asking for. I wanted to stay on MIUI cause I really worry that if it is not vanilla, it might cause problems and most importantly battery life ones.
I probably will be trying to go for crDroid, but for now I am worried I might make a mistake. I would hate it if I ended up bricking my phone, since I love Poco X3 Pro.
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Don't worry, you won't brick your phone if you just follow instructions, even then, you would have to do some crazy **** to hard brick your phone, most likely you will just end up with bootloop, which is always fixable by just reflashing the rom.
Read carefully and everything will be fine. I am on ArrowOS since I got the phone, updating regularly, rooting, using magisk modules, zero problems so far. Most of the time, battery life is better since useless bloat won't drain it so much.
Purely for battery life reasons I would personally never suggest switching to a custom rom from MIUI, because with a few ADB commands you can get rid of most of the "useless" bloat. However, if you are concerned about your privacy and don't want to feed Xiaomi with your data, then Lineage would be a good choice as an alternative OS, since at least the official versions are heavily regulated.
The battery life of a debloated MIUI is fantastic, at least in my case.
Ok, this will probably be a bit of a dumb and final question before I jump into the whole custom rome in the next days when I have time. I have seen a lot of times people mentioning TWRP or in general recovery that should be android 12 compatible, rather than the normal v11 provided in the twrp site. crDroid even seems to offer it's own recovery for it's latest android 12.1 version. I am still on Android 11 (MIUI 12.5.2.0). Does that mean I need to first update my phone to the latest MIUI to upgrade my software to android 12, or the recovery is backwards compatible?
I would definitely update to latest stock rom, then flash recovery and install ROM.
Hi!! I'm on the same situation here, coming from a Poco 1 (which is being really hard to let go) to a Poco x3 Pro so this thread is being really useful to me cause I'm basically on the same dilemma, stock vs custom?
I always used custom but when I bought my Poco 1 there was an automated script that unbloated the phone so I did that and stayed with the stock with no issues at all in this 3 years of use.
Now, for the poco x3, the only way of doing the same is by going app by app and removing it through ADB which, as you mentioned, is not that good if you are not sure what to remove so that made me think of going to a custom rom. I mean, I just installed it and all that xiaomi junk is removed.
What I didn't know is that the EU version was debloated so that could be a good option for me but, here's my questionk besides de bloated apps, which is the diference between EU and Global roms? Are they target for the same version of the phone or I could have like NFC disable or radio issues? Cause I though there were different version of the stock roms cause the hardware was diferent between devices.
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I would definitely update to latest stock rom, then flash recovery and install ROM.
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Ok, first I am going to let the updater do it's job finally and then the rest. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
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What I didn't know is that the EU version was debloated so that could be a good option for me but, here's my questionk besides de bloated apps, which is the diference between EU and Global roms? Are they target for the same version of the phone or I could have like NFC disable or radio issues? Cause I though there were different version of the stock roms cause the hardware was diferent between devices.
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Just to point out, Xiaomi EU is in a way a custom rom. The Xiaomi.EU community taken the Chinese rom, that has less bloat and more features, translating it and sharing it to people. Just because it it called debloated, that does not mean it does not come with the same Xiaomi Apps. It is still MIUI and that means some Xiaomi apps will still be impossible to disable and also apps like the Xiaomi Security that will softbrick your phone if disabled, still is needed and will cause the same thing in the Xiaomi.EU rom.
It is the main reason I am thinking of trying crDroid, or else like you said, I would not mind just a debloated stock rom, since afar from all the needed Xiaomi apps, MIUI seems quite enjoyable to me. If you check their forums though, you will see even the Xiaomi.EU has it's own problems.
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Ok, first I am going to let the updater do it's job finally and then the rest. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Just to point out, Xiaomi EU is in a way a custom rom. The Xiaomi.EU community taken the Chinese rom, that has less bloat and more features, translating it and sharing it to people. Just because it it called debloated, that does not mean it does not come with the same Xiaomi Apps. It is still MIUI and that means some Xiaomi apps will still be impossible to disable and also apps like the Xiaomi Security that will softbrick your phone if disabled, still is needed and will cause the same thing in the Xiaomi.EU rom.
It is the main reason I am thinking of trying crDroid, or else like you said, I would not mind just a debloated stock rom, since afar from all the needed Xiaomi apps, MIUI seems quite enjoyable to me. If you check their forums though, you will see even the Xiaomi.EU has it's own problems.
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Ohhhh I see! I think I'll try crDroid too and Arrow, as long as it's debloated, the IR works as long with the radio and the nfc, I'm happy.