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Hi All,
Having owned a Galaxy Nexus, and getting Jelly Bean some time ago, I was expecting a lot more from Jelly Bean on the Infinity when it came to interface fluidity. My Galaxy Nexus was a lot smoother - transitions and the notification menu especially.
But then I started to notice - in apps - the notification menu is actually very smooth, but not at the home screen. All transitions were still very slow however.
I had quite a bit of a play around and nothing seemed to improve the performance. Then I think I found something, and I want some people to sanity check me. I use Apex launcher (performance was still just as slow with the default launcher). In it's options, you can disable wallpaper completely (which you cannot do on the default launcher).
When I do this...I finally get the greatly improved fluidity I was expecting. It's not perfect, but the difference is huge.
Is anyone else able to confirm this? It seems strange. I was not using live wallpapers...just a static wallpaper. How much difference can a wallpaper make?
High resolution wallpaper can slow down performances due to pictures taking space on the RAM. Thus high definition pictures can take quite a bit of data ~10MB. Though that doesn't seem to be a lot...
Well I have tried using a smaller image, but I expect Android is up-scaling it to full resolution. The anmation was much less smooth. Once I disabled the wallpaper again, animations were smooth again.
Does anyone else use Apex, or a launcher that can disable the wallpaper to test this?
I just use a 1x1 pixel of black, pretty much "removes" the need to draw the wallpaper.
androidxen said:
I just use a 1x1 pixel of black, pretty much "removes" the need to draw the wallpaper.
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Did you notice a perceivable improvement in performance as a result of using that wallpaper? It seems likely that Android will stretch that 1x1 pixel out to fill a large canvas of black, which may not give any performance increase so I would be interested to know.
I would also like to know if I am the only one noticing this difference? Maybe no one else really cares about it except for me!
I use Apex Launcher Pro. I notice no difference whether I'm using wallpaper or not. Everything seems nice and smooth to me.
I would say you shouldn't expect to much from the Infinity. The Nexus 7, being a Nexus device, will always be faster than any other devices out there. The Infinity with it lousy flash storage and a full HD screen will never be able to catch up with the Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 7 in terms of speed and fluidity.
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I would say you shouldn't expect to much from the Infinity. The Nexus 7, being a Nexus device, will always be faster than any other devices out there. The Infinity with it lousy flash storage and a full HD screen will never be able to catch up with the Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 7 in terms of speed and fluidity.
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I somewhat agree...it is certainly pushing a lot of pixels. So my expectations have not been too high. In fact, I have really been pleasantly surprised. However - for the most part - I don't believe the I/O limitations should be affecting this tablet that much. Obviously there will be some effect...the same issues I was seeing before are still present...but I still do expect some improvement from JB.
That said...I am actually seeing it...but only with the wallpaper disabled. This is what strikes me as odd...it is just a static background image...and it feels like a bug.
Maybe I should just keep it off and wait until Key Lime Pie?
Disabling unused apps and clearing their data helps a lot. If you cannot disable see if you can "uninstall updates" first after that you should be able to. If you're rooted like me you can disable even more stuff using Titanium BU.
The difference? Everything is loaded immediately on startup (i.e. no calender widget that takes 5 sec to show). Balanced mode feels like performance mode, I can go on.
rikc said:
Disabling unused apps and clearing their data helps a lot. If you cannot disable see if you can "uninstall updates" first after that you should be able to. If you're rooted like me you can disable even more stuff using Titanium BU.
The difference? Everything is loaded immediately on startup (i.e. no calender widget that takes 5 sec to show). Balanced mode feels like performance mode, I can go on.
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What benefit is clearing a disabled app's data? My typical method for disabling something is to "freeze" it with TiBU and skip the OS menus altogether. Is there some additional benefit I could gain by clearing the frozen app's data too?
I was one of the people having slowness issues with their device but a couple of days later i figured it out. I went into the settings - apps - running and cached apps list. My ram was down to 100MB at some points. The 1GB of ram doesnt seem to be enough but we need to make due with what we got. So i installed Autostarts and disabled all the startup apps and any other apps i dont need when i change wifi state and all that other useless stuff. Google+ would run almost every 2 seconds, Maps aswell. So i disabled those apps from running at bootup and such. Now my available RAM is at 400MB constantly and it is running crazy fast. Opening the recent apps list and clearing those apps is super fast now. Also disabled some of the animation effects that jelly bean puts in. I personally am more concerned with performance then quality.
I noticed every app has notifications turned on by default (settings/apps). I don't know if it matters but I've been turning it off on everything I don't use notifications with.
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I somewhat agree...it is certainly pushing a lot of pixels. So my expectations have not been too high. In fact, I have really been pleasantly surprised. However - for the most part - I don't believe the I/O limitations should be affecting this tablet that much. Obviously there will be some effect...the same issues I was seeing before are still present...but I still do expect some improvement from JB.
That said...I am actually seeing it...but only with the wallpaper disabled. This is what strikes me as odd...it is just a static background image...and it feels like a bug.
Maybe I should just keep it off and wait until Key Lime Pie?
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I kinda laugh when I hear that it is pushing a lot of pixels so that's why it isn't smooth.... take the iPad 3 for example higher resolution, crappier specs and crappy iOS but it runs so smooth that it makes me want to trade in my infinite for it. I will have to jailbrake it to be able to do what I like but the experience will be better.... was just playing around with my friends iPad 3 and **** did I get me tinking.....
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I kinda laugh when I hear that it is pushing a lot of pixels so that's why it isn't smooth.... take the iPad 3 for example higher resolution, crappier specs and crappy iOS but it runs so smooth that it makes me want to trade in my infinite for it. I will have to jailbrake it to be able to do what I like but the experience will be better.... was just playing around with my friends iPad 3 and **** did I get me tinking.....
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Dude, you should seriously do some homework on Anandtech to say that the iPad 3 has crappier specs. In term of SoCs and graphic performance, the A5X chip in the iPad 3 is the most powerful SoC on a tablet right now, even the upcoming Snapdragon S4 Pro is unable to compete with it. I don't have much love for Apple, but we need to consider facts. If you consider raw computing power, Tegra 3 is even behind the iPad 2. In order to drive that many pixels on the iPad 3, Apple had to include a humongous SoC as well as much bigger battery, which explains why the iPad 3 is thicker and takes longer to charge. For your information, Tegra 3 is still stuck with single-channel memory while the rest of the industry have moved on to dual-channel memory early this year (look at Snapdragon S4, Exynos 4, OMAP 4)
As much as I dislike the current situation, there is not much of a competition going on right now with SoC. Currently, on the tablet front, Apple has the most powerful SoC on the market (A5X). On the phone side, the A6 chip is also the most powerful SoC on a phone as well. I am severely disappointed at Qualcomm and nVidia for failing behind Apple so far on this front. Not much is known about Tegra 4, but they'd better bring some Kepler to it, otherwise nVidia will become irrelevant.
So I have my nexus 5, and it is a great phone, web browsing and the operating system in general is very fast and smooth.
However I'm still getting what feels like dropped frames in apps with listviews like Facebook. Before I get "the fb app is just badly coded and unoptimised", I even get (although much less noticeable) lags while scrolling YouTube search results and the odd flicker in Google plus, which are stock apps.
Has anybody else noticed this? How can such a powerful CPU and GPU and newest version of android not be able to scroll smoothly?
Switch to the art VM in the developers settings. That improves scrolling performance quite a bit.
I did try using the art environment but it didn't seem to make much (if any) difference. I may try it again though
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Switch to the art VM in the developers settings. That improves scrolling performance quite a bit.
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Breaks TiBu for me, but scrolling works nice and smooth over here.
Just switched back to art, it might have marginally improved scrolling actually. Still not perfect though and can notice dropped frames in Facebook and Google plus
I just switched back to dalvik from art and yeah, its not a huge difference in performance.
Both are pretty speedy.
With art, I think there's less stutter.
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I just switched back to dalvik from art and yeah, its not a huge difference in performance.
Both are pretty speedy.
With art, I think there's less stutter.
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Yeah, and as art is still in development I guess we can't expect too much too soon, hopefully they'll be able to improve it with time though!
Would you say that the OnePlus 2 is "fast" in day-to-day use? A higher rating indicates that you think the OnePlus 2 exhibits fantastic performance. Like, is it as fast as your tears when you watch The Titanic?
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Not much to complain about here. It is not always Nexus smooth, but it is plenty fast and heating has never been a problem for me. Boeffla Kernel helps out with that.
Speed not a problem
Great speed.. Smooth and no heat for me with stock kernel.
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Performance has been top notch so far. Rarely I have felt slowdowns or lag or crashes. And those are OOS issues that I hope will be fixed soon. Then I would give the performance of Oneplus Two 5 star.
Mmmm, to be honest, for me it wasn't as fast and smooth as I have wanted, but after switching to AK kernel, everything is fine.
Then AK kernel seems a must.
Thanks.
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Mmmm, to be honest, for me it wasn't as fast and smooth as I have wanted, but after switching to AK kernel, everything is fine.
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The phone Stock is not superfast. Speed is simply "good" but not the best as it should be. It is clearly slower than a 2 years old nexus 5. But it is a software problem, other roms/kernels are really really fast. Let's see if oneplus fix it.
Right, phone(stock) have lag.
Is there a better ROM for this phone?
Transitions between apps, or from app to home screen can be sluggish at times. Otherwise I have not had issues with speed.
This is the fastest phone I've ever owned. After a 4 month hiatus, I came back to the Android camp with the LG V10, and while I did like it, it was just missing something and ultimately wasn't for me so I returned it. After going back and forth between the OP2 and the 6P, I ultimately decided on the OP2 and couldn't be happier. The V10 was definitely a fast device, the OP2 just seems a lot quicker and more responsive.
Absolutely nothing to complain about. I have OxygenOS 2.1.2 with the latest boeffla kernel (beta 15). Didn't tweak anything.
The phone is swift every time.
After having owned two Nexus (4 and 5), and the Oneplus One (running CyanogenOS then CM12.1) I'm highly disappointed. The phone is great, yes (good photo quality, good sound, good screen quality and not that over heating).
But OMG OxygenOS is sooo laggy .. It reminds me my Galaxy S3 with Touchwizz. It is more stable than CyanogenOS on the Oneplus One but I can't stand these lags anymore that's why I'm flashing CM12.1 right now. I'll miss FP scanner and LAF but hope we'll get them on custom 6.0 roms soon. (And if we don't then I'll think about selling it and get a Nexus 6P)
And I'm also disappointed by the charging time. Too long. And if I'm not using the original charger it takes years for the battery to be fully charged.
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This is the fastest phone I've ever owned. After a 4 month hiatus, I came back to the Android camp with the LG V10, and while I did like it, it was just missing something and ultimately wasn't for me so I returned it. After going back and forth between the OP2 and the 6P, I ultimately decided on the OP2 and couldn't be happier. The V10 was definitely a fast device, the OP2 just seems a lot quicker and more responsive.
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What made you choose the OP2 over the 6P?
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What made you choose the OP2 over the 6P?
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Mainly the size and cost difference. While I can afford the 6P, I didn't feel like it was worth the extra cash over the OP2. Couple that with the more manageable size, and I just felt the OP2 was more practical for my needs. I also really, really like the design and build of the OP2. There were a few more little things that helped my decision too, like the ability to switch between on-screen and capacitive buttons, the alert slider, and dark theme without having to flash anything. I'm an old man, and I stopped flashing ROMs years ago. I just want my sh!t to work with minimal tinkering. I guess when you group it all together, I just preferred the whole OP2 package to that of the 6P.
Coming from a Nexus 4, there is not much difference in speed even with about 15-20 apps open
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runs great. never bogs down on me with the 4gbs ram and 8 core snapdragon. all the ram was a big selling point for me. snc
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Would you say that the OnePlus 2 is "fast" in day-to-day use? A higher rating indicates that you think the OnePlus 2 exhibits fantastic performance. Like, is it as fast as your tears when you watch The Titanic?
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I have both the OPT and a Sony Xperia Z5. I bought the OPT to try out dual-SIM.
As I understand it they have the same CPU. Even though the Xperia Z5 is faster and smoother. I really don't feel that the OPT is faster than the OPO. I think the problem is the OS. The Sony OS is probably the best manufactor-OS i have had on an Android device (besides stock and CM)
First I wanna start by saying that I love what this phone represents. I actually love Xiaomi as a company for a while now... I love what they’re doing, I love their hardware, and I really love their innovations (in regards especially, to the Mi Mix series). I’m not bashing Xiaomi here, but just trying to share my experience and have an open discussion.
Gonna be upfront, I’m writing this post on the iPhone 8 Plus. Long story short, it’s a gift and I’ve actually had the iPhone X in the past (before I got the Redmi Note 5).
As a general package, the Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 is very impressive. It does everything fairly okay. And I think that’s my main problem with it. I’m the type of person that needs a phone to do only a few things, but do them VERY well. And this phone just doesn’t, unfortunately...
It has a big edge to edge screen, but it’s just not bright enough for using in the summer and its viewing angles are not good. I don’t know if the Canadian sun is acting up this year, but I can’t see much when the sun is out. It was so frustrating during my recent long road trips.
The battery is absolutely amazing. I’ve never used a phone with battery this good. If the only thing you need in a phone is battery life, please get this phone without even thinking twice. FYI, I’ve had the iPhone X, Galaxy Note 8, LG V20, Redmi Note 3, Galaxy Note 5, and many more...
The speaker is... okay. I don’t use the headphone jack or the IR blaster. The Bluetooth is not good. My headphones cut off all the time when I turn my head (Jaybird X3). This doesn’t happen with other phones. The camera is very decent.
My main issue with the phone, however, is that it lags. Stock Rom, custom rom, it just lags. All the reviews praised the Snapdragon 636, but I got what I paid for here. On top of that, if you try to use the phone when it’s charging you’re in for a frustrating experience. It REALLY lags. Now, this may be my unit, ok. But I have no way of knowing that. Coming from the iPhone X, I was excited to use MIUI overall and the navigation gestures specifically in MIUI 9.5 or 10 beta. They suck. You can’t use it. I mean, it lags beyond anything acceptable with the gestures. If they can’t make it work properly, why release it? I don’t get it... Is this the fault of android? Probably. But customers shouldn’t care. I don’t think it’s the processor or the RAM. Because from what I’ve seen, similar lag behaviour happens on the Mi 8. It also happens on their new tablet? Just to be clear, every android phone I’ve owned in the past had some lag issues, even the Galaxy Note 8. I’m starting to think that no matter how much you pay and what phone you get, android is just a lag factory after one week... I’m a bit confused as to why the reviews of this device don’t mention the problems I’ve raised.
Does the iPhone 8 Plus/X lags? Yes. But only like a few times a day, maybe. You forget about it. I wish iOS had Picture in Picture with YouTube and all the customizations of android, but at least it’s a joy to use overall. And YouTube Red plays in the background, even with the screen off, which definitely helps. But god damn it, why can I only have four apps in the dock?! That’s just plain dumb...
All I’m basically saying here is that after using a budget device, I was willing to pay more than twice the amount just in order to get a better experience on the phone itself. Was about to pull the trigger and get a OnePlus 6, but got the iPhone 8 Plus as a gift instead. I’m not saying the iPhone should be compared here, obviously. Was also contemplating on getting the Xiaomi Mi 8, but after my experience I was a bit scared that many issues I had are MIUI related... Like, you can’t even change the lock screen to be a live wallpaper. Even on iOS you can do that. Come on... The camera is actually cute. But the official MIUI ROM that came with the phone, it took about 5 seconds to open the camera app. Are they for real? This was official firmware, I don’t understand this.
If you survived this long post please tell me, (1) did you have the same experience as I did? Should I give this phone another chance? (2) What about the Mi 8? Care to share if you own one? (3) Should I have gone with the OnePlus 6 to have a corrective experience?
In terms of lagging there is something wrong with your phone. I have 240 apps and it is superspeedy. I am on 9.5.17.
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In terms of lagging there is something wrong with your phone. I have 240 apps and it is superspeedy. I am on 9.5.17.
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I'm with the same setup. Even more apps, like 300+ and no lag at all! Love my RN5 Global! Such a great device and outstanding battery life!
No lags here as well. Sometimes Facebook messager "chat bubbles" tend to lag when opening (but never when closing for some reason). Phone is fast and fluid, holds battery very well and even PUBG on HD wasn't able to make it hot (it was barely warm)
Camera is decent but its a budget device. C"Mon
Viewing angles aren't great but it doesn't bother me at all. Speaker is very good and loud . I"m very happy with my whyred
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I experience lag navigating on MIUI aswell, just update to the lastest version. About lags I feel none! Also the screen seems way too bright for me, brighter than any other device I've been in contact with and also the darkest. Speaker, well, it's a cheap phone, they had to cut somewhere. About bluetooth I don't have an opinion, I'm still a 3.5 jack man.
Seriously, you are comparing it to the Iphone 8 / X ?
Wow, there is a huge price difference, I am using Redmi note 5 Global, doesn't experience any lag
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Seriously, you are comparing it to the Iphone 8 / X ?
Wow, there is a huge price difference, I am using Redmi note 5 Global, doesn't experience any lag
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Wasn’t really making a direct comparison, there is none of course. More of making the point that ANY android phone I’ve had (and this includes Custom Roma and Kernels) has some lag issues. And this doesn’t trickle down well to the budget range at all. And it’s strange that I’m noticing this on any phone I’ve had, including the iPhones. But people say they have zero? It’s just strange... maybe we’re defining lag differently?
My old screen guard lowered my max brightness, I got a better one and now I have better sunlight legibility...
Don't know about miui, but I've never had lag issues except when I underclock the cpu and GPU while playing heavy games...
using Redmi Note 5 AI (China）here with MIUI 10 8.7.5 Beta and no lags. Was previously on MIUI 9.5 nd had no lags or problems with it
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Change your unit. (And/or) Upgrade it to miui 9.5.17
Its fluid...Maybe you have a different definition of lag.
Most probably you got ripped off or some shiet.
Overall device performance is buttery smooth and can give you ATLEAST 24-30 fps animation.
Screen can get hella bright (even for indian standards) and very dark aswell.
Good luck to you.
Everything you experienced is completely opposite to what I experience in my rn5p. It works great, brightness is good enough, lags? Nope. Nope. Nope.
Something might be wrong with your device..
No issue on my device as well. Something wrong with your device or one of the all you use is malware.
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lt's Pretty Clear To Me...
You Just Prefer An iPhone...
It's As Simple As That For You. :angel:
When I Can Buy FOUR Redmi 5 Pro's For The Price of ONE i8 Or X That Can Perform At The Level A Redmi 5 Pro Can....
It's A "No-Brainer"
It's As Simple As That For Me.
I have issues with the bluetooth audio as well. Any solution? Lags? Nope. Experienced app crashes sometimes and minor bugs that's it.
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Using RN5 Pro AI here in Saudi Arabia with none of these issues. Bluetooth is working fine , decent range and sound quality with my Sennheiser HD 4.40 headphones. Had to root to enable AptX streaming though.
Everything you're saying is true.
I feel the phone is laggy as ****. Every xiaomi i've owned (RN4 and RN5 and a Mi5) have lagged. Comparing, even the Mi5, to my last non-xioami phone(Huawei P9), RN5 is laggy as fu*k. They are using bad screens that tend to ghost a little and makes everything seems laggy. But that isn't the only problem, the main problem is the software. I can't understand how Xiaomi is one of the best phone company(money-wise) but their software is garbage. They somehow tend to just break everything for no reason. Qualcomm gives them everything to make a good phone and they fu*k everything with their *****y software/drivers/blobs/everything.
my old nexus 5 feels smoother.
I agree on the brightness part but lag? I don't have noticable lag at all and the navigation gestures are fluent. but I experienced horrible lag on the xiaomi.eu rom but not global.
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Everything you're saying is true.
I feel the phone is laggy as ****. Every xiaomi i've owned (RN4 and RN5 and a Mi5) have lagged. Comparing, even the Mi5, to my last non-xioami phone(Huawei P9), RN5 is laggy as fu*k. They are using bad screens that tend to ghost a little and makes everything seems laggy. But that isn't the only problem, the main problem is the software. I can't understand how Xiaomi is one of the best phone company(money-wise) but their software is garbage. They somehow tend to just break everything for no reason. Qualcomm gives them everything to make a good phone and they fu*k everything with their *****y software/drivers/blobs/everything.
my old nexus 5 feels smoother.
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U have defect phone or you cant use it wright - you do not know how to use it (every xiaomi phone u owned)....
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U have defect phone or you cant use it wright - you do not know how to use it (every xiaomi phone u owned)....
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Sure, blame me.
You indians (because i can bet 1000$ you are indian) owned ****ty 50$ samsungs and think that Xiaomi is the holy grail. Well, it's not. My old nexus 5 is smoother than this garbage.
Every year I upgrade to the latest S series device. But I end up getting bored and honestly want something different in between. I'm highly considering getting the one plus 7 pro because of the new 90hz 6.7 display . Anyone make the switch from the S10+ and regret it? I used to love the idea of rooting and custom roms so that might be a nice touch to keep me interested in the device. Just wanted some opinions, the note 10+ also has my attention because of ufs3.1 and the slightly tweaked cameras. Price isn't really a factor
I did and haven't looked back...
More freedom and less bloatware
Don't upgrade from S10+, because it's the same processor. Wait until next year to get a phone with a X55 5G modem (better than this year's X50 5G).
Since your asking in the op7pro forum most will say this is the best what ever there reasons. But I've had the device 2 times and bought times got rid of it... 90hz refresh is a gimmick, not realistic... I've own the s10 plus and it does not have that much bloatware and almost everything is uninstallable. I didn't like the one plus design,you can root but meh more problems the stability, cameras have improved since launch but still not up to par, good battery life, sound is decent. The s10 plus had everything you could want and if you get the exynos you can root if you want. (and don't let yourself be fooled by reviews of exynos not being as good as SD it's not true) I've used it and played the same games on both s10 plus and op7pro. My recent op7pro I traded it for a mate 20 pro 8/256 twilight.... All I can say is this is the best phone I have ever used, yes it does have a notch but I have never mind that sound can come out low but there's an app that fixes thatthing else just insane. It haves a 60hz refresh and it feels smoother that any other Android I've had.
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Since your asking in the op7pro forum most will say this is the best what ever there reasons. But I've had the device 2 times and bought times got rid of it... 90hz refresh is a gimmick, not realistic... I've own the s10 plus and it does not have that much bloatware and almost everything is uninstallable. I didn't like the one plus design,you can root but meh more problems the stability, cameras have improved since launch but still not up to par, good battery life, sound is decent. The s10 plus had everything you could want and if you get the exynos you can root if you want. (and don't let yourself be fooled by reviews of exynos not being as good as SD it's not true) I've used it and played the same games on both s10 plus and op7pro. My recent op7pro I traded it for a mate 20 pro 8/256 twilight.... All I can say is this is the best phone I have ever used, yes it does have a notch but I have never mind that sound can come out low but there's an app that fixes thatthing else just insane. It haves a 60hz refresh and it feels smoother that any other Android I've had.
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I agree 90Hz refresh is a gimmick. People experience a placebo-type effect, I think. The only worthwhile upgrade would come next year when X55 5G modems get used. The S10+ is fantastic, but I didn't buy it because of no bootloader unlock on US Snapdragon variants.
I bit the bullet and ordered one. Yes I realize it had the same basic specs, and I can live with the features I'll be losing. Worse case scenario I keep the S10+ and sell the 7 Pro. I'm praying the display is close to par with the AMOLED screen, and the larger screen size will be a bonus too. I'm expecting the software and the fluentness to impress me. Anyone know if there's a way to disable the volume slider though, not a fan of the physical slider.
90hz a gimmick? WTF? Yeh so are 120hz screens and 4k tv . You must be 1/100000 that can't notice the difference.
90hz IS ABSOLUTELY NOT a gimmick and every other phone to me looks painful after looking at amazing refresh rate of my phone. The 90hz is the real icing on top for this phone which is great in every single way. Great battery life which has been doing nothing but getting better with time due to the phone optimizing itself based on your usage. The screen is big and notch/ hole punch free and the sound is nice and loud while being crisp at the same time. And the camera is not the best but it's not disappointing either. I'm happy with it and I take a decent amount of pictures.
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90hz IS ABSOLUTELY NOT a gimmick and every other phone to me looks painful after looking at amazing refresh rate of my phone. The 90hz is the real icing on top for this phone which is great in every single way. Great battery life which has been doing nothing but getting better with time due to the phone optimizing itself based on your usage. The screen is big and notch/ hole punch free and the sound is nice and loud while being crisp at the same time. And the camera is not the best but it's not disappointing either. I'm happy with it and I take a decent amount of pictures.
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However, should you move from an S10+ to this
I'm not too sure about that. Unless it's an even trade or you throw in like 50 bucks towards it stay where you are.
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Since your asking in the op7pro forum most will say this is the best what ever there reasons. But I've had the device 2 times and bought times got rid of it... 90hz refresh is a gimmick, not realistic... I've own the s10 plus and it does not have that much bloatware and almost everything is uninstallable. I didn't like the one plus design,you can root but meh more problems the stability, cameras have improved since launch but still not up to par, good battery life, sound is decent. The s10 plus had everything you could want and if you get the exynos you can root if you want. (and don't let yourself be fooled by reviews of exynos not being as good as SD it's not true) I've used it and played the same games on both s10 plus and op7pro. My recent op7pro I traded it for a mate 20 pro 8/256 twilight.... All I can say is this is the best phone I have ever used, yes it does have a notch but I have never mind that sound can come out low but there's an app that fixes thatthing else just insane. It haves a 60hz refresh and it feels smoother that any other Android I've had.
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Just Compare Pes 2019 on high settings on both exynos & sd. You'll know the difference. Regarding 90 hz I can say that after using this Device If I scroll in App Drawer in my Xs Max I can literally see the icons stuttering or dragging.
Screen Doesn't gets as bright but it is comparable to iPhone on natural mode. I would suggest OP if he's using a SD S10 he should stick with it. Also I would suggest to Uninstall the Netflix app pre installed,If You Don't want dark videos
equlizer said:
90hz a gimmick? WTF? Yeh so are 120hz screens and 4k tv . You must be 1/100000 that can't notice the difference.
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https://youtu.be/7BuP4W5Cae4
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Apparently, running at 90Hz slightly decreases graphical performance on the OnePlus 7 Pro.
Don't switch from a S10 - you won't notice enough benefit.
Sure, having a screen with no notches or cutouts is nice; and yes, *some* things look better at 90Hz, but it kills your battery quicker, and actually, I don't really mind about scrolling smoothness in Chrome - I'd far rather like the extra refresh in all games (which you DON'T get right now).
Also, you'll loose wireless charging, IP68, and being honest, a bit of build quality. If you're really thinking of leaving the S10, how about going to the Note 10 instead?
stuclark said:
Don't switch from a S10 - you won't notice enough benefit.
Sure, having a screen with no notches or cutouts is nice; and yes, *some* things look better at 90Hz, but it kills your battery quicker, and actually, I don't really mind about scrolling smoothness in Chrome - I'd far rather like the extra refresh in all games (which you DON'T get right now).
Also, you'll loose wireless charging, IP68, and being honest, a bit of build quality. If you're really thinking of leaving the S10, how about going to the Note 10 instead?
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As someone who has tried both, there is a huge difference. The S10+ is a laughable phone compared to the OP7Pro. Scrolling looks laggy, apps open slower, worse game performance, worse thermals, Terrible standby drain, Ugly front camera, Slow fingerprint, broken Snapchat camera, etc. The list goes on and on
jhofseth said:
I agree 90Hz refresh is a gimmick. People experience a placebo-type effect, I think. The only worthwhile upgrade would come next year when X55 5G modems get used. The S10+ is fantastic, but I didn't buy it because of no bootloader unlock on US Snapdragon variants.
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90hz gimmick. Placebo effect lmaoooo.... 90hz 120hz. Is the future. Processors are already fast enought and are limited by the 60hz hardware. What 90hz does is increase os fluidity(smoothness) by 50%. Now when i loom at my iphone xs max which suppost to be the smoothest phone around. It look jerky stuttery and not smooth.... Not because it is, is because of the 60hz limitation. Is the same that your car is really fast. Can beat most car on a race.... Now u demo a much faster car (50% faster). U will be so impress....that When u go back to ur car. U will feel it so slow.... Not because it is. Is because u demo a much faster car. After a few day of driving ur car u will then again see that ur car is fast. Same with 90hz 120hz
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90hz gimmick. Placebo effect lmaoooo.... 90hz 120hz. Is the future. Processors are already fast enought and are limited by the 60hz hardware. What 90hz does is increase os fluidity(smoothness) by 50%. Now when i loom at my iphone xs max which suppost to be the smoothest phone around. It look jerky stuttery and not smooth.... Not because it is, is because of the 60hz limitation. Is the same that your car is really fast. Can beat most car on a race.... Now u demo a much faster car (50% faster). U will be so impress....that When u go back to ur car. U will feel it so slow.... Not because it is. Is because u demo a much faster car. After a few day of driving ur car u will then again see that ur car is fast. Same with 90hz 120hz
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You need to compare apples to apples: the only meaningful comparison is the OnePlus 7 Pro to itself. For example, tell a friend to switch it 60Hz or 90Hz and not tell you which one; then, without checking settings, see if you can guess which is which.
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https://youtu.be/7BuP4W5Cae4
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Speed Test G: OnePlus 7 Pro 60Hz vs 90Hz
YouTube · Gary Explains
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Apparently, running at 90Hz slightly decreases graphical performance on the OnePlus 7 Pro.
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No it doesnt. There app not optimize for 90hz,. Just like benchmarking apps which even if un have 90hz will run the 3d games a 60hz... Now use the mod of forcing 90hz on everything. By the way. I get 9hour sot forcing 90hz all time and 1440p (qhd). I hear people complaining that it drain ur battery. Like if 90hz u will only get 2 hour sot. .. if 9hour sot with 90hz on is not good enough. I really know no what are people expecting
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You need to compare apples to apples: the only meaningful comparison is the OnePlus 7 Pro to itself. For example, tell a friend to switch it 60Hz or 90Hz and not tell you which one; then, without checking settings, see if you can guess which is which.
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This is absolutely correct. Anything else is like saying "Concorde is a faster plane than a spitfire" - they're NOT comparable!
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Arden144 said:
As someone who has tried both, there is a huge difference. The S10+ is a laughable phone compared to the OP7Pro. Scrolling looks laggy, apps open slower, worse game performance, worse thermals, Terrible standby drain, Ugly front camera, Slow fingerprint, broken Snapchat camera, etc. The list goes on and on
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I was unaware that Snapchat had dedicated cameras on either the S10+ *OR* the OnePlus 7 Pro. I stopped bothering to read after that statement!
I didn't like the s10+ and I switched to Op7 pro.
Another planet imho, I really enjoy this phone and I never miss my s10+, cameras too.
Exynos s10+ is garbage imho, really not such a good device as review tell.
OP7 pro beats/pair s10+ in everything in my daily use, and this is my first OnePlus phone...Never going back to Samsung honestly!
Sreen is so better on op7 pro in my opinion, never liked the s10+ screen because of reduced blue light filter.
Oh, and vibration. Dude, really? The vibration on op7 pro is gorgeous...
Warp charge destroy s10+ exynos charge time, and battery is similar but op7 pro doesn't consume so much on standby and when using camera.
My op7 pro never get hot when I'm using it.
Just some random thoughts...
Love this phone!
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Another positive OnePlus 7Pro review today...
jhofseth said:
You need to compare apples to apples: the only meaningful comparison is the OnePlus 7 Pro to itself. For example, tell a friend to switch it 60Hz or 90Hz and not tell you which one; then, without checking settings, see if you can guess which is which.
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bruh..i mean i get it, some are fanboys and like their brand, but honestly... 90hz is definately noticable if you dont see it you just wont accept that something beats your loved phone somewhere
and the exynos samsung phones are just not worth the price, the processor is just garbage compared to the sd variants (compared a note 9 with exynos with s9 with sd and s9 was better in nearly every way)
anyway back to the topic:
samsung phones have more, if not all features you want or need, like if you already have a samsung device (watch eg) it makes sense to stay with samsung because it seems to function just better, but if you want a clean smooth experience just grab a op7 pro and feel good