Hey there!
Surprisingly, I couldn't find any information on this. I know only devices launching with Android 8 are required to support Treble, but there was the rumor that some manufacturers were working on bringing Treble on Android 7 devices with the update to Android 8.
So what about the U11? Does anybody have a definite answer?
Thanks!
As far as I have seen, Treble on Nougat devices = full wipe of the entire phone to create a new partition, so not going to happen. Oreo on the U11 definitely does not have it enabled.
Galactus said:
As far as I have seen, Treble on Nougat devices = full wipe of the entire phone to create a new partition, so not going to happen. Oreo on the U11 definitely does not have it enabled.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks!
Judging by the OTA package of U11, it does not have treble.
Alpert3 said:
Judging by the OTA package of U11, it does not have treble.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How can you know from the OTA package?
renatofontes said:
How can you know from the OTA package?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Because it didn't separate OS & other implementations in the underlying structure.
What is Treble?
Why do you want Treble?
6th_Hokage said:
What is Treble?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
https://source.android.com/devices/architecture/treble
It's an architecture of ROM separating Android from device manufacturer's drivers and add-ons so it's easier to bring Android updates to phones that have less-than-stellar support from the manufacturer (like we do).
Electronic Punk said:
Why do you want Treble?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So you can get security patches (and other upstream Android developments) easier → more often and have your phone secure and up-to-date.
LuH said:
https://source.android.com/devices/architecture/treble
It's an architecture of ROM separating Android from device manufacturer's drivers and add-ons so it's easier to bring Android updates to phones that have less-than-stellar support from the manufacturer (like we do).
So you can get security patches (and other upstream Android developments) easier → more often and have your phone secure and up-to-date.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah in theory, but it isn't exactly getting 8.1 and patches to the U11 Play and U11+ faster is it? We still are still at HTCs mercy.
Electronic Punk said:
Yeah in theory, but it isn't exactly getting 8.1 and patches to the U11 Play and U11+ faster is it? We still are still at HTCs mercy.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well yes, but it would be less bother for them, so possibly more updates? It's all my theory though, possibly even if implemented OEMs will just be like "Less costs to keep current update schedule. Cool!"
Sent from my [device_name] using XDA-Developers Legacy app
I found this article that says it will support Treble, but I don't know when.
https://www.technobezz.com/news/2018/03/09/official-update-htc-u11-will-support-project-treble
3et545 said:
I found this article that says it will support Treble, but I don't know when.
https://www.technobezz.com/news/2018/03/09/official-update-htc-u11-will-support-project-treble
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
htc_2q4d100 is the U11+. Something's odd there.
CurtisMJ said:
htc_2q4d100 is the U11+. Something's odd there.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's already supported, in the parallel world. So unluckily, we're on the wrong one.
sorry then the support to project treble on U11 will no longer be done as previously announced? thank you
Related
Is there a Android 8.0 Oreo ROM yet for the Tab 2?
secretwolf98 said:
Is there a Android 8.0 Oreo ROM yet for the Tab 2?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
not yet. maybe never.
smart-t78 said:
not yet. maybe never.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
RIP. Is there a reason why?
secretwolf98 said:
RIP. Is there a reason why?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Because people keep asking for it
Android-Andi said:
Because people keep asking for it
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh ok. I thought maybe the device structure just can't handle it with it kind of RAM.
secretwolf98 said:
Oh ok. I thought maybe the device structure just can't handle it with it kind of RAM.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OEMs would say that, yes.
Android-Andi said:
OEMs would say that, yes.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ahh ok
there is actually an oreo rom for our device here is the link
github(dot)com/Unlegacy-Android/android_device_samsung_espresso3g
github(dot)com/Unlegacy-Android/android_device_samsung_espresso
but it was not compiled and surely there is a lot of bugs
thanks to unlegacy android for making this
my internet was slow so i could not verify if this would work on our device (yet!)
ps. could not post url links yet srry
@ezrexl you are really funny, it's device source not a rom.
There's nothing changed for oreo on the source, we automatically created 8.0 branches for all our repos independent of Oreo support for the devices.
Android-Andi said:
@ezrexl you are really funny, it's device source not a rom.
There's nothing changed for oreo on the source, we automatically created 8.0 branches for all our repos independent of Oreo support for the devices.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So you are saying, if someone tries to compile it... It won't be real Oreo or what?
Android-Andi said:
@ezrexl you are really funny, it's device source not a rom.
There's nothing changed for oreo on the source, we automatically created 8.0 branches for all our repos independent of Oreo support for the devices.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Im sorry, I assumed it was a source ready to be compiled as a rom because Im really new to learning with these things, but I hope someone would make an oreo rom for galaxy tab 2 considering the fact that nougat was being patched right now.
secretwolf98 said:
So you are saying, if someone tries to compile it... It won't be real Oreo or what?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It can't compile, it has nothing changed to work on O and you will need a lot to change (and don't forget a massive kernel update you'll also need).
Have fun working on it, I am not and I won't in future
Android-Andi said:
It can't compile, it has nothing changed to work on O and you will need a lot to change (and don't forget a massive kernel update you'll also need).
Have fun working on it, I am not and I won't in future
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't work on trees anymore. I got frustrated to try to change my GitHub LineageOS 15 for SM-T230NU degaswifi. From it saying HTML to Makefile. So I gave up.
I still love marshmallow rom it's enough for our tab 2 (stable rom ever)
anybody??
No oreo?
Thread closed at OP request.
Please can someone who already got the U11+ check, if there is Project Treble activated on the U11+? because it is not there on the normal u11
HowTo: https://www.xda-developers.com/proje...-android-oreo/
I checked a few days ago and it does have treble. The response comes back as 'true' when the treble command is typed.
All phones that ship with Android 8 out of the box are required to have treble, only phones that are upgraded to 8 wont have it (assuming they are on 8)
Prot02018 said:
I checked a few days ago and it does have treble. The response comes back as 'true' when the treble command is typed.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
weird , i thought they will streamline the build version with normal u11 , but im grateful that it does support treble.
Phil750123 said:
All phones that ship with Android 8 out of the box are required to have treble, only phones that are upgraded to 8 wont have it (assuming they are on 8)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i am quite aware of that. but seeing that normal u11 does not support treble worries me.
parental92 said:
weird , i thought they will streamline the build version with normal u11 , but im grateful that it does support treble.
i am quite aware of that. but seeing that normal u11 does not support treble worries me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
phones which are just updated to android 8 have to be re-partitioned. and doing this via OTA can easily brick the device, so OEMs won't do that, unless they had a partition ready, which is not used and can be partitioned correctly.
With "Treble Check" you can check if your Device support project treble.
Why for your screenshot it is Partition A/B? As for me it is A partition only and in phh thread HTC u11 plus is A partition.
ayan15 said:
Why for your screenshot it is Partition A/B? As for me it is A partition only and in phh thread HTC u11 plus is A partition.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
because he has a pixel device
This project is support HTC U11 Plus. (check follow app above)
I try to flash this system but it's not work.
newyesor said:
This project is support HTC U11 Plus. (check follow app above)
I try to flash this system but it's not work.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Did you try this：https://forum.xda-developers.com/pr...-development/experimental-phh-treble-t3709659
pallxy said:
Did you try this：https://forum.xda-developers.com/pr...-development/experimental-phh-treble-t3709659
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes ,I try to flash this project treble and it's not work for me.
any one try the latest v13 ??
Can please share what is not working??
Mobile network is not available on htc u11+ ,I am wait for fix it.
v17 working for me but still no edge sense
czifraj2 said:
v17 working for me but still no edge sense
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
is boomsound still here
Lol, stupid people... No manufacturer specific features in the Treble ROM
mobile data is working v17 ???
aldaris565 said:
mobile data is working v17 ???
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
mobile data is not working on v17 .
Maybe we can ask a Venom rom or ICE rom developers to make a project treble rom from U11 rom? We will have all feature
czifraj2 said:
Maybe we can ask a Venom rom or ICE rom developers to make a project treble rom from U11 rom? We will have all feature
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Given the reasons Venom roms have been discontinued, I don't see a Treble project on a non treble device being something they would enjoy. Honestly they would probably much prefer sticking their peckers in a blender.
Sent from my penthouse using servants
Hope Project Treble gets ported to OnePlus One.
@pranit said:
Hope Project Treble gets ported to OnePlus One.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
"Treble is trouble" [email protected]_fabulous
Mr.Ak said:
"Treble is trouble" [email protected]_fabulous
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Why? Mi5 got unofficial project treble OnePlus One is great device too.
@pranit said:
Why? Mi5 got unofficial project treble OnePlus One is great device too.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This hack/mod requires modifying and resizing the partition scheme of the phone - it was easy on the mi5 if I remember correctly because there was a partition that went unused if you weren't on MIUI. I think a while ago I also saw that someone was going to publish a guide on how to resize OPO partitions.
TL;DR: Not an easy task - yet probably possible with the devs we've got around here.
CedArctic said:
This hack/mod requires modifying and resizing the partition scheme of the phone - it was easy on the mi5 if I remember correctly because there was a partition that went unused if you weren't on MIUI. I think a while ago I also saw that someone was going to publish a guide on how to resize OPO partitions.
TL;DR: Not an easy task - yet probably possible with the devs we've got around here.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Let's just say it is in work.
Mr.Ak said:
Let's just say it is in work.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i heard it too... someone is working on it ?
that in teory should solve all the problems like camera not working and stuff like that in any rom if implemented correctly, right?
borzowsky said:
that in teory should solve all the problems like camera not working and stuff like that in any rom if implemented correctly, right?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I also think so......
Mr.Ak said:
Let's just say it is in work.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This may help to do re-partitions ?
http://en.miui.com/thread-183258-1-1.html
CedArctic said:
This hack/mod requires modifying and resizing the partition scheme of the phone - it was easy on the mi5 if I remember correctly because there was a partition that went unused if you weren't on MIUI. I think a while ago I also saw that someone was going to publish a guide on how to resize OPO partitions.
TL;DR: Not an easy task - yet probably possible with the devs we've got around here.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
For bacon, it isn't necessary to repartition, we can still repurpose a partition for vendor. Let's just say that it's doable, but too much work for now. Even if we get treble it isn't very practical, given we have a 32 bit device.
Does Android P support 32-bit Processors ?
@pranit said:
Does Android P support 32-bit Processors ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nope.
LPW00 said:
Nope.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
if there's a way someone will find it, else well it's a shame
P.S. Thinking of going to a nokia 7 plus(when price meets or it's near to 300e as the Chinese version. It's not about performance, I'm happy with that ...but for battery life, my gf would get this and she'd be more than happy)
evronetwork said:
if there's a way someone will find it, else well it's a shame
P.S. Thinking of going to a nokia 7 plus(when price meets or it's near to 300e as the Chinese version. It's not about performance, I'm happy with that ...but for battery life, my gf would get this and she'd be more than happy)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh, there definitely will be.
any good news?
Android 9 works well via LineageOS. There still is no Android 10 support but from what I have seen, LineageOS on Android 10 is very buggy. As long as LenageOS continues to support OnePlus 1, I will be happy. I guess it would be much easier if we had Treble though as new versions of Android should just "work".
It looks like Huawei/Honor continues the development of security patches for EMUI 5 - b410 is approved by IMEI and contains August patches, while b412 contains September patches and will probably be approved soon. However, nothing new on the EMUI 8 side of things.
I don't remember how things were with the EMUI 4->5 transition, but the fact that they continue to focus on providing updates only for the old emui doesn't fill me with confidence.
Was 8.0.0.521 an one-off? I hope not.
I think Oreo is an one-off. Infact i returned back to b407
It's really disappointing, because the B521 firnware has some annoying bugs.
To me, the fact that Huawei controls both processor (Kirin) and OS (EMUI), should mean that they would be of the likes of Apple and iOS, or the likes of Google and Pixels: each version of EMUI should be able to be installed on all compatible phones, on launch day. I can't believe they cannot do that, unless their developers' skills are so bad.
This is a lost opportunity, in favour clearly of selling more phones. They envision being better than Apple, without taking the first page of their book: fewer phones, better support.
If that's the case in the end, "so long and thanks for all the fish".
skyrush7 said:
It's really disappointing, because the B521 firnware has some annoying bugs.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I just wanted the treble support. Now I'm using custom rom RR and it seems pretty good.
ahadshah said:
I just wanted the treble support. Now I'm using custom rom RR and it seems pretty good.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's nice that it worked for you - however a lot of people didn't want to switch to a custom treble ROM; they just needed a properly updated official OS with security updates.
ahadshah said:
I just wanted the treble support. Now I'm using custom rom RR and it seems pretty good.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Guess I have to switch to custom ROMs again just for security patches. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
ahadshah said:
I just wanted the treble support. Now I'm using custom rom RR and it seems pretty good.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Link for custom rom please
saadibader said:
Link for custom rom please
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OpenKirin
ahadshah said:
OpenKirin
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Will it work for L02? Indian variant.
gabriel.87 said:
Will it work for L02? Indian variant.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It should. But i'm not sure. You can contact the devs. They provide support on telegram.
ahadshah said:
OpenKirin
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks man, one last question which one do you use ? Resurrection, omni or lineage ? And wich one is better for honor 8 ?
There are some bugs ?
saadibader said:
Thanks man, one last question which one do you use ? Resurrection, omni or lineage ? And wich one is better for honor 8 ?
There are some bugs ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
"LOS - Stability, basic, like AOSP, but with a tad bit more customizability
OmniROM - Both hitting the sweet spot between RR and LOS. NFC.
RR - Really good battery life, customization to the max"
I am using RR coz of the customizations. AFAIK all the roms are usable as daily driver. There might be minor bugs here and there but nothing too big. NFC is only available on Omni. No VoLTE support on any rom. Thats all i can think of right now. Their web has detailed info.
ahadshah said:
"LOS - Stability, basic, like AOSP, but with a tad bit more customizability
OmniROM - Both hitting the sweet spot between RR and LOS. NFC.
RR - Really good battery life, customization to the max"
I am using RR coz of the customizations. AFAIK all the roms are usable as daily driver. There might be minor bugs here and there but nothing too big. NFC is only available on Omni. No VoLTE support on any rom. Thats all i can think of right now. Their web has detailed info.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks again for your answer, i dont use NFC neither VoLTE (not avalaible both in my country) i contacted devs on Telegram, in order to have those rom i should be on Oreo
Im thinking to rebrand my FRD-L09C185 to C432 to have Oreo
Anyway thanks a lot for your answer
gabriel.87 said:
Will it work for L02? Indian variant.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Will work as long as you are on EMUI 8.
daspyki said:
I just wanted the treble support. Now I'm using custom rom RR and it seems pretty good.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I can't switch to treble ROMs, because banking apps won't work on them.
skyrush7 said:
I can't switch to treble ROMs, because banking apps won't work on them.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Working good here on OpenKirin RROS with Magisk / enabled Magisk Hide. I'm passing SafetyNet and PlayStore shows certified. Magisk is hidden with repackaged MagiskManager and banking app is working :good:
Sent from my FRD-L09 using XDA Labs
cypher187 said:
Working good here on OpenKirin RROS with Magisk / enabled Magisk Hide. I'm passing SafetyNet and PlayStore shows certified. Magisk is hidden with repackaged MagiskManager and banking app is working :good:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm unfamiliar with this Magisk thing. I've read about it already, but it wasn't clear what is it for. Is it easy to use?
skyrush7 said:
I'm unfamiliar with this Magisk thing. I've read about it already, but it wasn't clear what is it for. Is it easy to use?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah I think it's pretty easy. It's a root solution, in general. Installation guide which you can use also for our device can be found here. Usage is pretty easy but now we're getting off topic with that.
Sent from my FRD-L09 using XDA Labs
weird i know
but for testing purposes i would need a nougat on op6, is it even possible?
catchawabbit said:
weird i know
but for testing purposes i would need a nougat on op6, is it even possible?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't think you can downgrade to Nougat because OnePlus 6 was Oreo in-box (idk actual word).
If via Treble, idk because Treble suppose works starting on Oreo to latest. ?
Sent from my ONEPLUS A6000 using XDA Labs
catchawabbit said:
weird i know
but for testing purposes i would need a nougat on op6, is it even possible?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It just doesn't make sense to have it. Use android emulator for testing an app if that's the case.
If there are zer0 users with Oreo with OP6 what's the point of testing?
leonalewis said:
It just doesn't make sense to have it. Use android emulator for testing an app if that's the case.
If there are zer0 users with Oreo with OP6 what's the point of testing?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's not about op6. It's the only available device to root and mess with. But the app we are testing is crashing in nougat.
Thanks for the help anyways
catchawabbit said:
It's not about op6. It's the only available device to root and mess with. But the app we are testing is crashing in nougat.
Thanks for the help anyways
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If it's not about the device, just emulate Android with your computer. Btw, you posted in the wrong section.