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Been lurking on these forums for a long time, finally decided to register to share my thoughts on the One X..
I've predominantly been an iPhone user since the launch of the 3g here in Canada. With a jailbreak and length of usage, I have my iPhone set up to do everything I need it to do almost perfectly. In the last half a year or so, however, I've become tired of looking at iOS. Every time I'd look at android devices with their big screens and useful widgets I'd feel a little pang of jealousy. Thus, I started purchasing Android devices non stop and within the last year, I tried the:
Nexus S
Galaxy Nexus
Galaxy S2
HTC Sensation
and
Galaxy Nexus again
I ended up returning / selling each of these phones for a variety of reasons, the two biggest factors were the lack of comparable pixel density and battery life. After getting rid of the Sensation I bought an iPhone 4S and was disturbed by how much worse the battery life was vs the iPhone 4. My 4 would never come close to dying and the 4S was struggling to make it through a day.
The second galaxy nexus with 4.0.4 was almost perfect BUT the samsung build quality bothered me as it just didn't "feel" like a premium device should in the hand..
I knew as soon as I saw the One X I'd have to give it a try. HTC is known for putting together phones that feel great in the hand and this is a factor for me. So far, this phone has been outstanding! I find myself unlocking it regularly just to look at the display. The battery life has been incredible, I have not come close to having the battery die on me on any given day. Granted, I do more texting, twitter, facebook, browsing and text based things vs playing games. The longest day I've had on it so far is 19h 51m with 4h 18m of screen time and I still had 11% of battery left.
Not being a hardcore android enthusiast as of yet, I don't have too much of an issue with sense 4.0. It's pretty to look at and adds some decent functionality. The downside is the minor lag when flicking between homescreens. I would hope that on a flagship, powerful device they'd be able to have virtually no noticeable lag whilst performing such tasks.
This phone does most things flawlessly, I have zero complaints regarding phone performance, call quality, text msging etc. As a phone, it seems to be working extremely well thus far. It also feels great in the hands, the polycarbonate shell almost has a ceramic feel to it. The size is a bit shocking coming from an iPhone but is easy to adapt to.
However, the device isn't without it's bugs, these are the ones I've noticed so far:
-Display: I know HTC is using two different LCD panels, mine is definitely the warmer of the two being used and the whites have a bit more of a yellowy than a blueish tinge to them. I'm not sure how much this bothers me as of yet as in every way the display seems great to look at, I run auto brightness and don't expect it to be extremely bright. I'd be interested in knowing whether anyone with a Rogers unit has a whiter or yellower display?
-Wifi seems to be an ongoing issue. At first it seemed like it would barely hold onto a solid wifi connection at home. I googled like mad and saw a suggestion regarding hard coding the IP vs using DHCP to solve the issue. I didn't think that would be the solution and found another person saying the phone seemed to work better with a wireless network mode of b/g vs b/g/n so I disabled N on my router and the wifi seems to be much more consistent now but not perfect. At times the wifi bars will just disappear for no apparent reason. I've never had an issue like this with any other wifi device at home. Also attempted a channel change. Hoping it's a software issue that gets sorted with an update
-Camera seems pretty average to me.. This is one area where I think the iPhone still excels beyond any other phone I've ever tried. Its simple camera tends to take pretty good 95% of the time. With the One X so far I had a buddy attempt to snap a quick picture of me and it wasn't great. Have tried a few test pictures around the house and the quality seems okay but not great. Keep in mind, I haven't messed with settings, just literally point and shoot. I don't feel as if though you should have to adjust settings to produce a good quality image with a camera phone, I'm not a photographer and have no real interest in learning about photography. I just want to capture a moment on demand and have it captured fairly well without much effort
-Status bar icons: Last night was the first time I've set an alarm on the phone. The icons in the status bar seemed to be going a bit nuts, the alarm icon would disappear and reappear for no apparent reason. Not sure if I just need a reboot because I haven't heard anything about this anywhere
-Call volume display: When I adjust the volume during a call, the volume display is still on the screen when I'm ending the call, which could be minutes later. For some reason it doesn't seem like it's automatically closing off the screen
Anyway, sorry for the long winded intro and thoughts. Would love to hear feedback regarding the issues I've experienced and would be glad to answer questions regarding the device for those of you still waiting to pick yours up.
Cheers!
Thanks for taking the time to give us info. Good to know.
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Thanks for taking the time to give us info. Good to know.
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+1. Can't wait until Friday!
Hey there tawheed12! Picked up a One XL from Rogers friday last week as well, I'll share my experience with the issues you mentioned and maybe we can get a better picture of what's wrong. (no pun intended)
I too have noticed a yellowish tinge. However, I've been reading a lot on Google Books (reading a book on a screen this size is a real treat) and I've noticed that the more I use the phone with a solid, or near solid white screen, the less the yellowish tinge. It could be my imagination, but it could also be the screen needs to be "broken in". I don't know anything about the manufacturing process for this new generation of SLCDs so it might be possible it just takes time.
I tested the alarm and the call volume display issues, they don't seem to exist on mine for some reason. Alarms stick and the volume bar fades away after a few seconds. I tested normally and in speakerphone mode. I wonder if it's a third party app you're using?
As for the camera, I've fiddled around with most of the settings, and it seems to take more focused/better shots if you turn off the continuous shooting mode and frame your pictures normally. I know the high shutter speed is supposed to be a huge selling point but the bursting just seems useless to me. Still, even with it off, photos aren't brilliant or anything. HDR and Low Light modes can be useful sometimes, everything else just seems gimmicky or redundant to me. I have taken a few good shots though, if you want to compare let me know and I'll upload some.
My router is and has always been less reliable than my phone so I can't test that one out for ya
One thing I've noticed, the stock music app seems a little nonintuitive in some areas. Google Voice Actions' "listen to" command won't actually play anything, it just does a search in the app, and it will only do it ONCE. Further tries just bring you to the original search and ignore what you said. Hardly hands free. It also has random issues mixing up album arts with different albums in the queue. I've switched to Winamp in the meantime, but it's a shame because the stock app works very well otherwise.
One thing really bothering me, my camera clicks when changing focus. It was quiet at first, but it's getting louder fast. I hope there isnt an issue with our batch of phones! I'd appreciate knowing if anyone else is having this issue.
Anyways, hope I helped!
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Hey there tawheed12! Picked up a One XL from Rogers friday last week as well, I'll share my experience with the issues you mentioned and maybe we can get a better picture of what's wrong. (no pun intended)
I too have noticed a yellowish tinge. However, I've been reading a lot on Google Books (reading a book on a screen this size is a real treat) and I've noticed that the more I use the phone with a solid, or near solid white screen, the less the yellowish tinge. It could be my imagination, but it could also be the screen needs to be "broken in". I don't know anything about the manufacturing process for this new generation of SLCDs so it might be possible it just takes time.
I tested the alarm and the call volume display issues, they don't seem to exist on mine for some reason. Alarms stick and the volume bar fades away after a few seconds. I tested normally and in speakerphone mode. I wonder if it's a third party app you're using?
As for the camera, I've fiddled around with most of the settings, and it seems to take more focused/better shots if you turn off the continuous shooting mode and frame your pictures normally. I know the high shutter speed is supposed to be a huge selling point but the bursting just seems useless to me. Still, even with it off, photos aren't brilliant or anything. HDR and Low Light modes can be useful sometimes, everything else just seems gimmicky or redundant to me. I have taken a few good shots though, if you want to compare let me know and I'll upload some.
My router is and has always been less reliable than my phone so I can't test that one out for ya
One thing I've noticed, the stock music app seems a little nonintuitive in some areas. Google Voice Actions' "listen to" command won't actually play anything, it just does a search in the app, and it will only do it ONCE. Further tries just bring you to the original search and ignore what you said. Hardly hands free. It also has random issues mixing up album arts with different albums in the queue. I've switched to Winamp in the meantime, but it's a shame because the stock app works very well otherwise.
One thing really bothering me, my camera clicks when changing focus. It was quiet at first, but it's getting louder fast. I hope there isnt an issue with our batch of phones! I'd appreciate knowing if anyone else is having this issue.
Anyways, hope I helped!
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Good to know about the screen. It doesn't really bother me too much until I hold it next to a device with more of a blueish tinge.
I noticed the camera focusing sound too, very odd. Never had a phone that makes any type of audible noise when focusing.
I haven't used the music app so can't really help you on that one.
I'll try and take some good pics and upload them and we can compare!
My only real complaint so far is the wifi. It seems VERY shaky at much smaller distances than other phones I've had, to the point that putting my body between the phone and the router at about 20 feet makes the signal disappear. This is the only phone I've ever owned that had this much trouble with the wifi in my house. Hopefully this is something that can be fixed in software.
I still haven't experienced any issues with WiFi on mine. It's rock solid.
The only thing I can think of, is that I've disabled Packet Aggregation on my router (Asus RT-N56U) due to some incompatibilities with my D-Link AP (constant disconnections). Perhaps it's the same issue.
Don't own one yet, but I've played with the demo unit at AT&T numerous times. About half the time I've had the wifi drop out on me. This is concerning and hope it can be fixed with an update. Regardless, I will be preording my unit tomorrow.
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My only real complaint so far is the wifi. It seems VERY shaky at much smaller distances than other phones I've had, to the point that putting my body between the phone and the router at about 20 feet makes the signal disappear. This is the only phone I've ever owned that had this much trouble with the wifi in my house. Hopefully this is something that can be fixed in software.
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I *HAVE* to assume this is a software issue. It's ridiculous how bad it is. Changing my router to just b/g did make it much more consistent but still not even close to 100%. It's constantly slower than my iPhone testing from the same spots of the house. Could always try to enable the "Best wifi performance" option or whatever but it apparently sucks down quite a bit more battery.
I can also say i have the same issues regarding the wifi! Seems to be a widespread issue.
Great news about the battery because I just mostly text and i talk about a good hour on the phone daily, not really a phone gamer, so my battery should be great fingers crossed.
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Great news about the battery because I just mostly text and i talk about a good hour on the phone daily, not really a phone gamer, so my battery should be great fingers crossed.
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Considering your usage, I think the battery will be more than adequate!
I do keep my brightness on auto, limit some push notifications and keep my GPS off though I doubt the latter two make much of a difference.
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Considering your usage, I think the battery will be more than adequate!
I do keep my brightness on auto, limit some push notifications and keep my GPS off though I doubt the latter two make much of a difference.
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I never have gps on since it sucks so bad on my captivate I have just given up on it for now lol
I got mine about 3 days ago - yesterday and today I have noticed the battery life improving greatly - the first few charge cycles it was a hog, but it seems to be evening out.
I've had many flagship android phones and had an iphone at 6 different times (from 3G to 4S) so I would say I've had my fair share.
This HTC One X is the first android phone I've had that truely feels high end - I LOVE the screen and its all around a great looking device. No complaints from me actually - its also the first android phone I've had I didn't immediately want to flash a new rom on. I will likely flash AOSP on it though at some point, whenever that is possible.
in short - it's a FANTASTIC phone! battery life blows the 4S out of the water.
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I got mine about 3 days ago - yesterday and today I have noticed the battery life improving greatly - the first few charge cycles it was a hog, but it seems to be evening out.
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If you are an avid ROM flasher, you know that on new phones, and after ROM flashes, the battery meter is not calibrated. The actual battery consumption is not changing. Just the % battery that is being displayed is changing (getting more accurate).
kinda lame the "Camera seems pretty average". this is supposedly one of the strong selling points of the device. i'll have my GNex laying around for a bit after i get mine so i'll be doing all kinds of comparisons between the two. i have no doubt, though, that it's going to trump my GNex in spades.
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kinda lame the "Camera seems pretty average". this is supposedly one of the strong selling points of the device. i'll have my GNex laying around for a bit after i get mine so i'll be doing all kinds of comparisons between the two. i have no doubt, though, that it's going to trump my GNex in spades.
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On the at&t model the camera is clean. Compared to my iPhone 4s and vivid cameras
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rambo8987 said:
On the at&t model the camera is clean. Compared to my iPhone 4s and vivid cameras
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that's good to know. yeah i've been lurking on the engadget review for the international one and they had this to say:
"Now let's talk about image quality. We pitted the One X against the current cream of the crop -- the N8, Amaze 4G, iPhone 4S and Galaxy Note (which uses the same module as the Galaxy S II) plus Canon's S95 compact point-and-shoot. The camera landed somewhere in the middle of this star-studded pack, marginally beating the Galaxy Note and iPhone 4S while almost matching the Amaze 4G. Sure, it's not in the same league as the N8 (which rivals the S95 in some cases), but this is one stellar camera, especially when you consider that HTC is not positioning this phone as an imaging-centric device like the Amaze 4G."
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that's good to know. yeah i've been lurking on the engadget review for the international one and they had this to say:
"Now let's talk about image quality. We pitted the One X against the current cream of the crop -- the N8, Amaze 4G, iPhone 4S and Galaxy Note (which uses the same module as the Galaxy S II) plus Canon's S95 compact point-and-shoot. The camera landed somewhere in the middle of this star-studded pack, marginally beating the Galaxy Note and iPhone 4S while almost matching the Amaze 4G. Sure, it's not in the same league as the N8 (which rivals the S95 in some cases), but this is one stellar camera, especially when you consider that HTC is not positioning this phone as an imaging-centric device like the Amaze 4G."
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Trust me. When you get this phone. You won't be dissappointed. Esp in camera area. But again, its a phone, not a dedicated camera, so its kind of silly seeing people dis phone makers because areas like cameras, gaming, screen reso is not stelllar. Want a great camera? Lol buy a camera, want a great gaming console? Buy a game console. Want great display? Go get a 55 LCD screen tv. Maybe I'm just excited about this phone.
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I have to agree the only two complaints I have with mine. The first is the Wi-Fi it seems spotty unless I am less than ten feet from my router. The only other complaint I have is with the sense keyboard. I am testing a few alternatives so its more a preference than anything. Bottom line though the One X is probably the best device I have used in a long time.
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Hi people of XDA, I think I'm going to buy this phone tomorrow, and I want to hear your impressions after use.
I've used it in a local dealer, but I'm afraid of that glass breaking, I've read so much about it... and I've seen people have been careful with it, and it still breaks... What about gaming performance and heat? Have you played intensive games where the phone was very hot? Has anything happened to glass?
So are there any cons that you know? I'm stunned by phone's look. Ex Arc owner hiihihi
I'm really happy with my phone! The battery is amazing and it handles games like a champ. No heating problems or cracked glass, but I'm using a case so don't know if it would be the same without it.
My only complaint would be low audio output with headphones because I like my music loud.
My only complaint is theres still no built in call blocker and unlike my note 4 theres no caller name readout, so you know whos calling you.
Yes the phone could be louder in headphones but atleast It is a improvement on previous Z series and even the Xperia S & T.
The DSEE HX really helps with loudness, as does using the MDR-NC31EMs or my Beats Mixrs.
Happy but there is a small part of me that wishes i went with the compact version! Dont get me wrong, I much prefer the larger screen and its obviously better if watching videos / youtube or even just web browsing. However its a tad awkward to use one handed when on the move outdoors because of its size where as the compact felt much better in hand and felt alot less likely to drop/slip from my grip (when i tested it out in store)
I expected a little more from the camera especially when it comes to detail but none the less its a good camera. Battery life is excellent to so all in all iam happy
Oh and for the person that mentioned 'call blocker' . Theres an option to send a choosen number to voicemail which is pretty similar to blocking the number i think. Also if you use the textra app you can now block incoming sms
If you like installing custom ROM's, i'd avoid Sony. That said, my thoughts;
The phone is very fast, and has a super bright screen, although it's much too blue. Speakers are loud but inconsistent. Camera is good but not amazing.
Compared to my previous phone, M8, i'd say this is faster with much better battery life, but speakers, camera and screen, as well as the puny LED flash which is useless make this phone a little disappointing.
Disclaimer : I am very very picky, so while this phone isn't of the quality of the M8, the glass won't break on it's own, and you won't regret it unless you've had an M8 lol.
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I'm really happy with my phone! The battery is amazing and it handles games like a champ. No heating problems or cracked glass, but I'm using a case so don't know if it would be the same without it.
My only complaint would be low audio output with headphones because I like my music loud.
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Do you mind if I ask you what case you are using? Thanks.
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Do you mind if I ask you what case you are using? Thanks.
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http://www.krusellcases.com/uk/p_krusell_product.aspx?i=265580
Bought this one from a store here in Sweden the first day i got my phone. There were no other ones and it looked good and sturdy. Good price too.
Another minor flaw thats a little annoying for me also is that iam finding auto brightness to be crap! The display is too bright in dark settings and to dim in bright settings unless i manually adjust!
I've had it for one week, and I'm very satisfied. I changed from a Z and everything is much better, lighter, brighter screen (I can see it under direct sunlight), usable in wet conditions.
The only bad thing I can say about it is that I can't root it without unlocking the bootloader, at least for now (I like to remove all the Google and Sony bloatware).
I've had my 6603 model for two days. Maybe the honeymoon is still going, but I really love this phone. I did manage to scratch the rear glass already. No cases in USA yet and Amazon backorders them into November after you buy one that shows " in stock". After the past year with Nexus 5, and looking at how the Nexus 6 is whale sized the Xperia Z3 was the only semi stock device I could find that met my needs/wants. I'm thrilled with it.
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NFC not working
The phone is great! apart from the NFC only working sporadically.
It only works if i push on the back where the NFC makes contact. It used to work fine for the first week so not sure why the NFC module isnt making contact to the main board.
Anybody else having this issue?
I bought my first Sony smart phone and its Z3 last week. Till now its working great and i have seen no issues just one when using 3G or LTE signals get dropped. Same issue is coming in nexus 5 too. Other than this its very very fine smart phone. Look and feel is good Battery time is awesome and most importantly there in no lag. I switched from galaxy S4 so i am feeling this difference a lot.
I have the phone for a week or 2-3 now and still happy verry with it. Biggest downside is no root and the camera could be a bit better... Coming from a Z1 (and Lumia 930 in between) just about everything is an improvement, screen, build, speed, the whole package. Just hope development will set off soon for the Z3 (again, root mainly).
The phone does get hot when playing games (even candycrush) but that's just what phones do. No issues with glass so far here *knocks on wood*.
I've had this phone since September 26th. I came from an iPhone 5 (i know, I been missing out) and i'm kinda amazed!
There are a few things though:
1. As mentioned by someone before, i'm having issues while it's switching between 3- and 4G. And additionally while it's switching from WiFi to 3/4G. There are spots possibly up to ~15 seconds without any connection.
2. I'm using a cover, but the back got scratches inside the cover, by miniature particles, so I'm guessing it's not too scratch resistant.
3.First I set it up following the set up instructions, and setting everything up with syncs and whatnot. I wasn't too impressed by the battery life when I had it like that, so I did a factory reset and set it up a bit more cautiously, switched stamina mode on and boom, easily the best battery life I ever had!
Over all I'm loving the phone though, reading the news in the shower every morning, no worries about whipping it out in the rain, watching tv-series on the metro in wonderful quality, without noticeable battery drops. No crashes yet, the ps4 remote play to come. The list is long!
I guess what I'm saying is that having had an iPhone since my HTC desire was pensioned I secretly missed android all along, and what a great device this is for a comeback ?
Great phone.. Coming from an LG G2, I miss the thin bezels.
Also miss development for it.
No regrets. Z1 - Z2 - Z3
So what do people think? I can upgrade my phone next week, currently on a nexus 5. Is the Z5 actually worth getting? (seems to be a lot of negative feedback about) or I'm thinking maybe the Nexus 5X (but the Z5 outspecs it in every way.... BUT... It's a nexus, it will be stupidly fast at all times)
Or what else if anything currently?
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Hey,
I currently own an iPhone 5S and I was looking forward to change to Android for a few months now.
Today my contract ended and I finally wanted to get a new phone so in the last two weeks I was searching the right phone for me almost everyday for a few hours. Reading reviews, looking at xda and so on.
Yesterday I ordered the Z5.
At first I was looking at the G4, reviews say it has a really really good camera, it got an SD slot for up to 1 TB and a replaceable battery. Almost anything I wanted, the only thing missing was the fingerprint reader.
Then I checked for the developer community and saw/read that it's not really popular with developers which is a huge negative for me.
Then I read about the touchscreen problems it has and I was looking for something else at first.
I was hoping for the 5X or the 6P to be great phones but without an SD slot and the small storage (16GB at minimum price) as well as the high price (in Germany) I discarded the idea.
I was looking at the S6 then and realized it is a great phone, but again - no SD card (which makes it way pricier than one with an SD card as you want enough storage to not run out) - and the Exynos CPU scares some developers (at least I read that).
After checking the S5 (yes, a bit older) It was my favorite at first but I got the chance to reduce the price of the Z5.
The S5 has expandable storage, replaceable battery, great screen, good camera and a fingerprint reader.
The fingerprint reader is not the best, the design is not as great as on other phones (but that's really not important to me) and it has useless stuff like a heart rate sensor.
But if the Z5 is bad I will get the S5.
Why an older phone? You don't need really need the processing power for most stuff you do, when calling, taking photos, messaging or browsing you dont need an octa-core. Things like storage (for photos and videos you take (especially when you can record 4K)) and battery life are important to me. The fingerprint reader is not necessary but a nice to have when unlocking your phone 100 times a day.
So why the Z5?
Well, it got 32GB, an SD slot, a fingerprint reader, a good CPU, pretty good battery life and a nice camera and It will most likely get a nice developer community.
If I experience problems with it that don't justify the 560€ I paid I will return it and get another phone. But when looking at the whole package I think it's the best for me.
I hope I could help you with describing my way of choosing the phone!
Have fun looking around and I hope it doesn't take you 2 weeks to find the right phone like it took me... :laugh:
Greetings,
Daniel
Had a Z1, Z2, Z3 and now Z5. Also had a Xiaomi Mi4, Redmi Note 4G, HTC M9 and a ZTE Axon. I would recommend this phone, you won't be disappointed especially coming from Nexus 5 (Had one of these also but only briefly before digitizer went). Z5 is tops in everything compared to devices on this list with two exceptions. M9 exterior speakers are better and Axon audio through headphones is better. Guess you could argue build quality as well since M9 and Axon are metal but the Z5 is built well, water/dust resistant but glass everywhere so no drops
Yea i definitely need to find a box type rugged case if I get one!
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Depends what you want from a phone. The thing is negative reviews always outshine positive and more people write about issues they have had. (most could be user error)
My decision to get this was the fingerprint reader which works very well. Having Sony phones for so long I also couldn't see myself with anything else. The Sony launcher in my opinion is the best but I have used it for so long now it would be hard to switch to anything else.
Usually you get time to return bought items if not satisfied that would give you the chance to see for yourself
I would definitely recommend it anyhow and have not encountered many issues.
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compare to Z3 Can you update us with
1- Battery life
2- Heat problem
3- sound qulity from the speaker like playing videos from youtube or whatsapp
compare the sound VS Z3 and Let us know please
entra6 said:
compare to Z3 Can you update us with
1- Battery life
2- Heat problem
3- sound qulity from the speaker like playing videos from youtube or whatsapp
compare the sound VS Z3 and Let us know please
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1. Just streamed a two hour movie and dropped 22%. Only had the phone five days so not sure the battery is fully calibrated yet.
2. No problem with heat while streaming but have not tested extensive gaming or video recording.
3. Speakers are noticeably louder than Z3 but still do not approach HTC M7 or even M9 levels. Headphone audio is also louder than Z3.
augie7107 said:
1. Just streamed a two hour movie and dropped 22%. Only had the phone five days so not sure the battery is fully calibrated yet.
2. No problem with heat while streaming but have not tested extensive gaming or video recording.
3. Speakers are noticeably louder than Z3 but still do not approach HTC M7 or even M9 levels. Headphone audio is also louder than Z3.
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Seems all the S810 based devices have battery issues even on standby. HTC and Sony both have regressed significantly in battery life with the Z3+/M9. Keep us posted, I was wondering if this one improved back to the Z3 levels or not. I saw a speaker comparison test don't remember where but the M9 and Z3 topped the Z5 not by too much though in terms of clarity, the Nexus 6 was last.
Hi everyone! I have a Sony z3 and I'm really in love with Sony's devices.
I saw this phone but I have two questions :
1) it's possible to root it? Or there are problems with drm in the bootloader like on z3?
2) between this and the one plus 5 which one do you suggest? Which make the best photos and videos?
3) can you suggest me some good cover for this phone?
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In a word, no. Not for the price. I never really have buyers regret but on this device I do. I wish i had just bought a HTC U11.
Positives
Good industrial design
Fingerprint scanner is great
Battery life is excellent
solid performance
Negatives
The camera in the day is great, not the best but not the worst. The camera in the evening is poor at best unless you have a tripod.
Obvious distortion issue on 95% of camera modules, people who say they don't I think are in denial, so that number is most likely 100%
The dual speakers are quiet and sound quality is also not the best.
The screen is great but the sub pixel arrangement means it is not as good as the HDR screen on the lower resolution G6 or S8.
The Headphone jack is great, but the volume is low. Having used the S8, iphone 7 and HTC U11, they are all much louder - Dongle or not.
The Frame of the phone is plastic and scratches very easily. My plastic case has scratched the sides already and I am very careful with my phones.
No MHL support, No figerprint support in USA, no wireless charging and althought the industrial design is good the screen to body ratio is poor.
I would save you money and buy a cheaper HTC U11 or One Plus 5.
All of which is publicly known for a long time now. All devices have pros and cons, the question is what your wiling to live with and what are you not able to do without.
Fact of the matter is this, whilst the camera is probably the most significant issue, pretty much everything else is just subjective ramblings of whoever your speaking too. Wireless charging? Wow but a deal breaker? I doubt it
Phone case a bit scratch prone? Who doesnt use cases on these phones these days.
Everything else except the camera is subjective, meaning some folk won't mind the audio, some will, some will not like the bezzle, some will.
Personally the u11 not having a jack is a deal breaker. Blooming stupid idea not having one given the cheapness of headphones. Sorry but if I've forgotten to bring my phones I'm not spending 25 quid on a new set, I'll be spending no more than a fiver from just about any shop on earth
The one plus 5 nice phone, but who's idea was it not to add a sd card slot?! And is got a comparatively low PPI.
And both of those have loaded with pish compared to the XZp relatively stock UI
Now that's not to say they are rubbish, you just need to work out what you want and what you can compromise with.
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indecently, I got the XZp after a lot of deliberating.
And with the exception of the camera, I am happy with it.
Just hope they sort out the camera, not so much the wonky lines introduced by the lens, but by the overuse of sharpening, the camera is stunning as shown by the image on the screen but after processing, it certainly losses its flare, if someone is watching, if they wont change the processing, give us the option to shoot RAW and ill deal with it
If you are watching a lot of videos on Youtube, Netflix and Amazon Prime and you also transfer many movie files into your phone, then buy it and you will never regret it. But if you are not watching a lot of media content then wait for the XZ1.
I don't have any of above mentioned pro lens. And I am vary happy with the phone. Speakers are enough loud and the audio is perfect from the ear pads. No distortion at all.
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All of which is publicly known for a long time now. All devices have pros and cons, the question is what your wiling to live with and what are you not able to do without.
Fact of the matter is this, whilst the camera is probably the most significant issue, pretty much everything else is just subjective ramblings of whoever your speaking too. Wireless charging? Wow but a deal breaker? I doubt it
Phone case a bit scratch prone? Who doesnt use cases on these phones these days.
Everything else except the camera is subjective, meaning some folk won't mind the audio, some will, some will not like the bezzle, some will.
Personally the u11 not having a jack is a deal breaker. Blooming stupid idea not having one given the cheapness of headphones. Sorry but if I've forgotten to bring my phones I'm not spending 25 quid on a new set, I'll be spending no more than a fiver from just about any shop on earth
The one plus 5 nice phone, but who's idea was it not to add a sd card slot?! And is got a comparatively low PPI.
And both of those have loaded with pish compared to the XZp relatively stock UI
Now that's not to say they are rubbish, you just need to work out what you want and what you can compromise with.
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indecently, I got the XZp after a lot of deliberating.
And with the exception of the camera, I am happy with it.
Just hope they sort out the camera, not so much the wonky lines introduced by the lens, but by the overuse of sharpening, the camera is stunning as shown by the image on the screen but after processing, it certainly losses its flare, if someone is watching, if they wont change the processing, give us the option to shoot RAW and ill deal with it
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I haven't owned a phone with a memory card slot in about five years and haven't missed it
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I don't have any of above mentioned pro lens. And I am vary happy with the phone. Speakers are enough loud and the audio is perfect from the ear pads. No distortion at all.
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Same for me
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I haven't owned a phone with a memory card slot in about five years and haven't missed it
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Na, my old dear doesn't either but the she's 65 an can barely turn the phone on. I on the other hand have a requirement for an expansion slot, not just for additional storage but for peace of mind, knowing that should my phone go to the great rubbish dump in the sky, its important data is kept safe and to hand where ever I might be.
The 1 second slow-mo is a joke. And the blocked FM radio tuner is also a slap in the face of every Sony customer out there. Not to mention the other blocked features.
If you tell me what cloud service I can use, I will upload some photos.
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Na, my old dear doesn't either but the she's 65 an can barely turn the phone on. I on the other hand have a requirement for an expansion slot, not just for additional storage but for peace of mind, knowing that should my phone go to the great rubbish dump in the sky, its important data is kept safe and to hand where ever I might be.
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You ever heard of cloud storage grandpa.
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You ever heard of cloud storage grandpa.
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Yeah, its a wonderful service that, when you are connected to the internet, allows you to backup and stream data. The problem is moving 30GB of Data on to the cloud and downloading it takes a fair old toll on your Data plan unless you are connected to wifi and, shock horror, wifi isn't everywhere and even if it is, it can be A, Throttled, or B Data Limited which kinda sucks, it also takes a great deal of time.
What you are saying in a round about way is this, you don't actually need two legs these days, you can get away with a wheel chair in most places so actually, lets lob our legs off our new borns because they are clearly redundant. Ludicrous? yes but its the same with expansions slots, you don't NEED an expansion slot but having them can make life awfully simple.
Just the other day I decided to de-brand my XZp. Wiped the device and back up and running in a few min, all my work is exactly where I left it, all my photos are right there various other backups for a number of other apps plus music blar blar blar. all there, no fannying about having to download it all again
Disdrediting something as simple as a expansion slot is daft, yes not everyone needs them but if you do, its better to have and not need then need and not have. Same with the 3.5mm jack (which I notice my comment isn't being challenged as much on here) Do we need it? no, does it make life simple, yes.
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oh one other thing, my kids are like 12, I sincerely hope I'm not a Grandpa, around my neck of the woods Pre-Teen parents are thankfully few and far between, but I realise in some other parts of the world its more common practice, so just for future reference, I'm Not a Grandparent.
We all know the hardware capability is there but it has been bottlenecked on purpose. MHL anyone?
XZ Premium is for those who like the most advanced tech in their phone like a 4k Display, dual speakers, 960 slow mo camera, etc...
But it's definitely not for "Common Stream Product Lovers" like Samsung or Apple fanboys. As much as the Hardware is awesome and Sony Quality, the Drivers are terrible. All complaints you will hear about the XZ premium are in fact Software based.
- Wide Angle Camera has Distortion? Really? This is completely normal and expected. But this pushes people to complain because Sony isn't as good as coding a proper software to counter balance the distortion.
- Sound? That's completely relative in so many levels. First, when you listen to HD audio, the speakers are awesome. The sound can't be cleaner and the level is just right. But 90% of apps and low quality media will not sound as good. Again, it's a software issue. For some reason, you open an APP and the sound is too Loud and sounds really bad. You open another and you hear nothing. And sometimes you hear some high quality sound and go "wtf? The speakers are that good so why all the other stuff sounds so terrible?". Again, Sony's Drivers. It's like they don't even care.
4K Display? Best Display ever. And even better for VR. Do not believe that complete BS that LCD is not good for VR etc... I have written a whole thread about it, and there I explain how this is BS. The first 8K VR headset uses an LCD display. So what's the problem then? Again no Support from Sony for nice 4K Content, (Except Youtube), and not even any APP. And no, there's no shadow effect whatsoever. What people complain about is in fact the 30 FPS blurriness because of stereoscopic settings. ( Stereoscopy can't have a constant setting in any distance. So if an item on the image moves fast, this will cause the 3D effect to get off because sterescopy can't work at the same level wherever you look in the display. That's why Samsung is in fact working on a VR which tracks your eyes so they can focus immediately where you look. This will help them to not only fix the 3D continuity but also lower the need for resources by lowering the resolution anywhere you're not actually looking). (and btw, If XZ premium would allow its processor to play 4K at 60 FPS, even this wouldn't be an issue). But of course, this is less detectable on Amoled displays. Oh, Amoled have this problem too. The Note 7 Gear VR gets also blurry as any other 3D rendering device. Even 3D movie theaters have this problem. Finally, a 4K LCD is like 100000000x way better than any 2K Amoled. The absence of the screen door effect alone is worth it. But again, Sony doesn't even advertise that. Cause they really don't care.
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Dude. This is the BEST Phone you can get. Ever. The Note 8, iPhone 8, etc.. are all Complete BS next to this Phone....
BUT, once you buy it, you are left alone with it. Sony doesn't have your back like Samsung or Apple. So if you're not a Tech Enthousiast who takes time to tweak his phone, tweak Apps, etc.. Stay away from it.
Sony is simply the best and this phone is easily the best.
There's literally no other brand I can see myself buying since all have weird stuff going on.
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XZ Premium is for those who like the most advanced tech in their phone like a 4k Display, dual speakers, 960 slow mo camera, etc...
But it's definitely not for "Common Stream Product Lovers" like Samsung or Apple fanboys. As much as the Hardware is awesome and Sony Quality, the Drivers are terrible. All complaints you will hear about the XZ premium are in fact Software based.
- Wide Angle Camera has Distortion? Really? This is completely normal and expected. But this pushes people to complain because Sony isn't as good as coding a proper software to counter balance the distortion.
- Sound? That's completely relative in so many levels. First, when you listen to HD audio, the speakers are awesome. The sound can't be cleaner and the level is just right. But 90% of apps and low quality media will not sound as good. Again, it's a software issue. For some reason, you open an APP and the sound is too Loud and sounds really bad. You open another and you hear nothing. And sometimes you hear some high quality sound and go "wtf? The speakers are that good so why all the other stuff sounds so terrible?". Again, Sony's Drivers. It's like they don't even care.
4K Display? Best Display ever. And even better for VR. Do not believe that complete BS that LCD is not good for VR etc... I have written a whole thread about it, and there I explain how this is BS. The first 8K VR headset uses an LCD display. So what's the problem then? Again no Support from Sony for nice 4K Content, (Except Youtube), and not even any APP. And no, there's no shadow effect whatsoever. What people complain about is in fact the 30 FPS blurriness because of stereoscopic settings. ( Stereoscopy can't have a constant setting in any distance. So if an item on the image moves fast, this will cause the 3D effect to get off because sterescopy can't work at the same level wherever you look in the display. That's why Samsung is in fact working on a VR which tracks your eyes so they can focus immediately where you look. This will help them to not only fix the 3D continuity but also lower the need for resources by lowering the resolution anywhere you're not actually looking). (and btw, If XZ premium would allow its processor to play 4K at 60 FPS, even this wouldn't be an issue). But of course, this is less detectable on Amoled displays. Oh, Amoled have this problem too. The Note 7 Gear VR gets also blurry as any other 3D rendering device. Even 3D movie theaters have this problem. Finally, a 4K LCD is like 100000000x way better than any 2K Amoled. The absence of the screen door effect alone is worth it. But again, Sony doesn't even advertise that. Cause they really don't care.
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Dude. This is the BEST Phone you can get. Ever. The Note 8, iPhone 8, etc.. are all Complete BS next to this Phone....
BUT, once you buy it, you are left alone with it. Sony doesn't have your back like Samsung or Apple. So if you're not a Tech Enthousiast who takes time to tweak his phone, tweak Apps, etc.. Stay away from it.
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Totally agreed to this opinion. And I can add that for me it works on flawlessly. Battery, Sound on HI res audio is amazing.
lol i had the xperia xzp for about a week and what a phone it is the display and front speakers where amazing and i have always liked the design and the launcher of the xperias
what was bad for me was the camera and they always have been for me on xperia devices and ive had a few
xperia z,z1,z2,z3,xzp had them all and the cameras have always been the weak point for me which is really frustrating as on paper they have the best hardware for the cameras then all the competition but for me just seem to fail especially in low light
and now the whole not been able to root on locked bootloaders was it for me as ive never unlocked my bootloaders as ive never wanted to loose xreality ect
so i jumped on the bandwagon and now got the galaxy s8 plus but im starting to already miss my xzp
my views to anyone is get the xzp its a famous case of quality over quantity which all sony products not just phone have
There is certainly a lot more to a phone then benchmarks, I haven't yet seen a reliable means of benchmarking the UI, fluidity is one of the primary reasons I went for the XZp, but you can only really gauge that by watching it and comparing. personally I haven't experienced a single stutter despite very heavy usage and running some bloated crap not even once has this phone stuttered on the UI.
Its actually very impressive, but it's also entirely subjective.
On paper it may not appear to hold It's own when compared to others but in your hand I think it tells a different story.
I would like to see some evidence that Sony has deliberating DISABLED Features, I don't see how you can possibly know that to be true at this stage but if it is true then yes that's a single black mark against the XZp. Not sure FM radio is a deal breaker in my mind but each to their own
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While healthy debates over which brand is better are okay, please try to not cross the line and keep it civil. Remember, not everyone will share your opinion and whatever you say or do will change their opinion/thinking
Now lets try and help the OP regarding whether to buy the XZ Premium or not
Honestly, I'd wait to see what the XZ1 brings.
I went with the XZ Premium because I wanted a dual sim phone, and the Compacts don't seem to come with dual sim support.
I would have waited for the XZ1 Compact but the 4k really sold me on this thing. It's great for watching videos in VR (Although I need to to change the resolution with ADB first).
If you're not looking for dual sim, the XZ1 Compact *should* come with an S835. I'd go for that one, but that's just me.
So I'm deciding between this and another phone or two. I had been concerned about the bugs people have been facing with this phone. My question is, has it all pretty much been resolved with December's update? I've read all about it on here except for any comments on actual improvement.
Other 2 phones I'm considering are the 6T and the Mi Mix 3. Yes, I know those two are much bigger, but for whatever reason don't want the 3XL.
I didn't experience the bugs that were reported, but I have noticed app switching is much better, so it appears background apps aren't being killed as they were before, which I believe was the memory management bug. What's encouraging to me is that Google has addressed and reportedly fixed the bugs so quickly. So even if some new ones show up there's a good chance they'll be fixed as well. I had a Samsung phone previously and would wait months for an update. Being first in line is as good as it gets.
I used to have the Pixel 2XL and wanted to upgrade to the 3.
I COULD NOT stand the 3 XL notch. It annoy me a lot. I also realized that the perfect size for me was the 5.5". So I bought the Pixel 3 for Black Friday. (Nomad Leather Case makes it feel so good too).
The only issues so far was Bluetooth no connecting correctly to my Honda and calls over speakerphone were bad. People was not listening me correctly.
It looks like it is fixed now with December update and I don't see anything wrong. I don't see any lag,well, maybe a little. But I think it's an Android feature since you can notice that in most phones.
If you like the pixel experience, updates, Google stuff, then this is for you.
If you want something bigger, cheaper, and less photo quality then 6T is for you.
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I used to have the Pixel 2XL and wanted to upgrade to the 3.
I COULD NOT stand the 3 XL notch. It annoy me a lot. I also realized that the perfect size for me was the 5.5". So I bought the Pixel 3 for Black Friday. (Nomad Leather Case makes it feel so good too).
The only issues so far was Bluetooth no connecting correctly to my Honda and calls over speakerphone were bad. People was not listening me correctly.
It looks like it is fixed now with December update and I don't see anything wrong. I don't see any lag,well, maybe a little. But I think it's an Android feature since you can notice that in most phones.
If you like the pixel experience, updates, Google stuff, then this is for you.
If you want something bigger, cheaper, and less photo quality then 6T is for you.
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Go in to dev settings and change Bluetooth to 1.5 or 1.6 reboot and enjoy working connections
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I had a s9 before..and the double apps from Samsung kill me..why do I need a email app if Gmail is included..why I need a calendar app (s-planer) if you can use Google calendar..why I need a Samsung photos app if Google photos is included..i could wrote forever more examples for this..now with the pixels 3 it feels so pure and homecoming..also the updates.. everyone say why Android phones had such a bad update circle for the software..I don't understand people why they buy other non Google phones ..
Just my 2 cents
carlos_polanco said:
I used to have the Pixel 2XL and wanted to upgrade to the 3.
I COULD NOT stand the 3 XL notch. It annoy me a lot. I also realized that the perfect size for me was the 5.5". So I bought the Pixel 3 for Black Friday. (Nomad Leather Case makes it feel so good too).
The only issues so far was Bluetooth no connecting correctly to my Honda and calls over speakerphone were bad. People was not listening me correctly.
It looks like it is fixed now with December update and I don't see anything wrong. I don't see any lag,well, maybe a little. But I think it's an Android feature since you can notice that in most phones.
If you like the pixel experience, updates, Google stuff, then this is for you.
If you want something bigger, cheaper, and less photo quality then 6T is for you.
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You can remove the notch in xl through a setting to make it as a black bar across the top
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Shrinking the screen? No thanks.
The only valid notches are for the new iPhones due to Face ID.
ANDROID notches are a problem created instead of solution.
I'm happy with the pixel 3.
Thanks for the input. I'm still kind of torn. How's the real world battery life? I'd be coming from a Galaxy S8+.
Please be aware that the video and "other" capabilities on the Pixel 3 camera pale in comparison to some other phones. I love the P3, but the weak videos are frustrating to no end, especially when the photos are so incredible. Other camera capabilities are weak as well - panorama, slow motion, and a complete lack of time lapse. The P3 is probably the best (or right up there) when it comes to individual photos, especially in low light. But if you use any other camera features regularly, or video regularly, it's nowhere near the top of the pack. Because of my kiddos, probably 20-30% of my camera activity is video and goofy slow motion shots. The S9 is my other device, and I'm still within my return window on the P3. I'm on the fence b/c of these issues.
Camera aside, the P3 is an excellent experience... very smooth, solid battery life, etc. My S9 is still fast, but the P3 is just... faster. Battery life on the P3 has been comparable to the S9. I stopped obsessing over battery life a couple of years ago. As long as I'm not having to plug in before bed, I'm happy. And both phones do that for me.
And as has been stated before, if updates and "first in line" are a high priority, then the Pixel 3 is your best bet by far.
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Please be aware that the video and "other" capabilities on the Pixel 3 camera pale in comparison to some other phones. I love the P3, but the weak videos are frustrating to no end, especially when the photos are so incredible. Other camera capabilities are weak as well - panorama, slow motion, and a complete lack of time lapse. The P3 is probably the best (or right up there) when it comes to individual photos, especially in low light. But if you use any other camera features regularly, or video regularly, it's nowhere near the top of the pack. Because of my kiddos, probably 20-30% of my camera activity is video and goofy slow motion shots. The S9 is my other device, and I'm still within my return window on the P3. I'm on the fence b/c of these issues.
Camera aside, the P3 is an excellent experience... very smooth, solid battery life, etc. My S9 is still fast, but the P3 is just... faster. Battery life on the P3 has been comparable to the S9. I stopped obsessing over battery life a couple of years ago. As long as I'm not having to plug in before bed, I'm happy. And both phones do that for me.
And as has been stated before, if updates and "first in line" are a high priority, then the Pixel 3 is your best bet by far.
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Thanks. Yeah, I've got my first child on the way. Having a good camera is pretty important to me. Thanks for the info on the camera quality.
I have typically kept my phones a year or less until my last phone 2 phones. Wife doesn't think I need a new one that often, especially since she still doesn't feel the need to upgrade from her iphone 6s. Having a kid coming will probably help her with that crusade. My point being, updates and future support is more important for me now than in the past. If the P3 were the same price as the OP6T or even just $100 more, i'd probably have already jumped on it.