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Before i begin i want to point out that I have never reviewed a device before and to be honest I'm not that great at typing but the nexus is going through a phase it has never been through before. The nexus line is at and end and the most recent nexus devices aren't even getting the full features of its predecessor as they normally would for years to come. With that said the pixel has made me feel as though it is worth sharing my thoughts with people who may be sat on the bench or wondering about the new pixel devices that are replacing our beloved nexus phones and whether or not they should make the pricey jump over. I also would like to know how you guys that have purchased a pixel are finding the new google devices.
I have been a massive fan of the nexus line since the birth back at the nexus one and have owned every nexus phone released, and have had most nexus tablets apart from the 2nd gen nexus 7, so i really love the pure android experience. Having used the nexus line for so long and spending a short amount of time now with the pixel XL i wanted to give my honest opinion and feelings about the new line coming from the nexus 6p...
There are sacrifices and gains to be made when upgrading from the 6p. First of all the front facing speakers are gone which is quite a big downer for me. Perhaps I've been spoilt with having front facing speakers on the 6p and nexus 9 that i use, but it feels like a step backwards here. The speaker on the pixel XL is OK dont get me wrong and can be quite loud and full sounding but its nothing like having front facing stereo speakers.
I want to talk about the software/google photos backup/assistant. My nexus was on 7.1.1 preview when i sold it so I had some time with that to compare.
The google photo backup feels like a marketing scam to me in a way. They advertise unlimited storage in full resolution forever with the pixel phones. Now you already get that to the most extent. It backs up pictures in an unaltered quality up to 16 mega pixels. The pixel phones have a 12.3mp camera same as the 6p and a lot of other devices so nothing changes there. The 6p and other devices also get full resolution video backup for 1080p so the only real gain is the 4k resolution videos.
The assistant again is being played up big time by google. Now lets be honest most people don't stand there talking to their phones or at least not people that i know. I tried both google now and assistant and to me assistant is the same as google now. They have just given it a new voice with some jokes and put it into a conversation card format. Google now worked pretty much the same and did a good job. This isn't something new that google have released that hasn't been seen before. It's simply a revision of google now that we have had for a while.
The software is beautiful on the pixel XL. I know it has better internals that will be helping a lot but the user interface is so smooth and fluid. Even 3rd party apps seem to behave better and don't have no where near as much micro stutters. Everything just feels fluid and very very snappy. This is where the pixel for me really excels over the 6p. The new launcher is also very nice. I was on the bench when i first saw it but once you use it, it makes perfect sense. The swipe up motion for the app drawer frees up a dock position for an additional app. The new search button top left frees up more screen real estate instead of having the full length bar spanning the width of the screen.
The display is very slightly smaller on the XL, however i don't really notice this at all to be perfectly honest. The display on the pixel XL is definitely better than the 6p. Its much much brighter and the white point is much better... At least for my taste. I prefer a cooler white than the more yellow hue of the nexus 6p. I held the two phones side by side in the store and i cant stress enough how much more improved the new pixel phones display is. This is a gorgeous display that honestly rivals my wife's S7 edge.
The pixel XL is noticeably thicker than the 6p when held out of a case. I'm not too sure how i feel about this one personally. The pixel XL is easier to hold and doesn't feel like it will slip from your hands when using one handed but then again it has the same battery as the 6p and is a similar size shell. It doesn't have anything extra that would warrant the thickness so again this feels like a step back to me in a way. I don't understand the need for the extra thickness given the internals. I know they may have thickened it slightly to remove the camera bump but the pixel phone still actually thickens up as at the top end of the phone compared to the bottom.
The chin is a talking point for a lot of people. I have come to accept this now for the simple reason of the bottom facing speaker. On the larger bezels you have more room to hold the phone without covering the speaker with your palm. I have gone for the black version of the phone which somehow hides this a bit better than the white and doesn't look as obvious.
The camera is simply great on the pixel. Even though it has exact same spec camera as the 6p the end product after the image has been processed is awesome. For simple point and shoot the camera is amazing and there is 0 lag with the HDR+ like there is on the nexus 6p. I often missed a chance to snap my kids doing something with the 6p because it took forever to actually take the picture after pushing the button. This issue is gone with the pixel and photos are snapped almost instantly.
The price is still definitely a big question mark for me. The phone feels great and overall is does make the nexus lines feel like beta's to what the pixel is and how it performs. However... No wireless charging... No water and dust proofing... No dual front facing speaker... There are other phones out there with these things that don't cost as much. The price being charged for this leaves a bad taste in my mouth, especially with it being the first pixel phone which a lot of average consumers wont understand the history behind and how it came to be. The phone isn't a house hold known name like the galaxy line or the iphones so people may be scared away by the price for this new unknown brand of phone.
Overall summary for me is that the pixel XL phone is definately an upgrade from the 6p, and using the phone feels night and day better but the price point is a huge question mark. The pixel phone somehow has a polish and unification to the whole google branding that i just cant put my finger on but i can honestly say this is by far the greatest android experience i have ever experienced. The smoothness of moving around the ui is unrivalled by any other device i have ever used including windows phones and iphones (I've never owned an iphone but my brother is an avid apple fan so we dont see eye to eye, however I do play with his iphone to compare speed etc).
So how are you guys finding the pixel XL phone? which device did you come from and how does it compare?
I mean, I get it. They're both new phones, but other than RAM and processor, the two diverge quite quickly. The basic difference is Samsung put effort in display quality and quantity while HTC focused on sound quality. It's like comparing a tangerine and a tangelo. Same base, but two totally different things. And soon people will be drawing comparisons vs the Oneplus 5. Once again the op5 seems to have focused on camera. So grapefruit vs tangelo Just get one you like for display, audio, or camera and you're set, imo.
people are always comparing flagships to flagships. It's not just about comparing them as they have the same SoC and RAM. If everyone is just comparing like for like, then all comparison of Android vs iPhone would be silly
I think it's fair to compare them - many people are still used to the carrier 2 year cycle. For them (and myself, but for other reasons), now is the time to choose the phone they will be using for a significant amount of time. These are substantial investments, and people want to be sure they're getting "the best". Going for the "one you like for display, audio, or camera" is wise, but to some extent these can be adapted to if the competition seems likely to be more future proofed. For instance, Bluetooth 5 support on the S8 could potentially be a big deal down the road... but Unlocked phones tend to age better with ROMs.
I'm on the fence mainly because of how many Verizon features are missing right now and, with a current BestBuy sale the S8 can be had for basically the same (or less) cost...
The comparisons are more helpful than you might think. I think the biggest reason for most is to justify where to spend your money. Some might think that both phones are fast, so it doesn't matter what you get.
Completely wrong. It helps to give insight and different perspectives on the software, hardware, and just each person's personal preference. That's what it does for me, at least.
Now, would I say one is better than the other....no. That information is irrelevant.
I actually like the comparison. I like seeing everyone's caring opinion.
I'm still on the fence as to which to get. The S8 is a nice looking phone but the bad sound quality and poor developer support is turning me away. While the screen on the U11 does not compare.
The dilemma is that no phone does it all perfectly. I have both the S8 and U11. I love the S8's screen, but the U11 has better audio. The cameras are close, but the U11 has more detail under certain conditions. So I'm still searching for the perfect phone. If I want great pictures, I use my Galaxy S6. For audio, it's my Axon 7 or LG V10. But if I just want a good all around phone, I grab my U11 or S8. So sure, by all means compare phones. At the end of the day, you'll have to decide which features are most important to you.
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Whatever I end up keeping, I'm hoping it will be replaced by the Google pixel 2
The S8 audio quality wasn't bad, but I really hate single bottom firing speakers. It just feels weird having one ear hear much louder than the other.
Tachi91 said:
I actually like the comparison. I like seeing everyone's caring opinion.
I'm still on the fence as to which to get. The S8 is a nice looking phone but the bad sound quality and poor developer support is turning me away. While the screen on the U11 does not compare.
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This is just an opinion. Do you have the U11? Have you seen the screen in person? It actually does compare.
Probably because they are the 2 top devices right now.
Cant put the G6 in the same category due to it running an obsolete SoC and the OP5 as much as it may have going for it lacks in many other areas so cant really put it beside the S8 or U11 either.
If the U11 had of went with smaller bezels (only to keep the overall size smaller) and a 6" screen I'd possibly sell my s8+ for one and thats saying alot as im a huge sammy fan.
The fact that HTC stayed with a flat screen is great, the sound is of course far better, cameras are close and both look amazing.
I just cant do the smallish 5.5" screen i dont think especially with the 6.2" on the S8+ even with the weird aspect ratio
Still its the best device HTC has built to date IMO and they are def on the right track for better sales I would think.
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Still its the best device HTC has built to data IMO and they are def on the right track for better sales I would think.
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I would think so, too (especially since they sold put almost everywhere), but that depends on how bad their financial situation is. I think this will help them live to develop another flagship.
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This is just an opinion. Do you have the U11? Have you seen the screen in person? It actually does compare.
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Today I received my U11 6+128GB ver and I owned Galaxy S6 and LG G3, they are all 2K panel. I agreed both my older phones got better screen over U11 though the screen isn't bad for normal use and hardly noticeable for most people but when I read some low quality pdf doc I clearly see the different is there.
All and all, I get the phone with 6+128 at this low price with a good cam. I understand the screen quality might be a bit lower if HTC still want to make profit.
I don't see an issue with comparison between the two. After all the s series is the most popular Android phone out there and is usually always the top competitor.
The phones are also the same generation in the specs department so not comparing them would make no sense.
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i miss the moto design and customization on my essential phone. heres my friends moto x pure. post your current or former phones designs in hopes someone would be inspired to re introduce customization.
oh and another thing... i wish they came with a durable bumper
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i miss the moto design and customization on my essential phone. heres my friends moto x pure. post your current or former phones designs in hopes someone would be inspired to re introduce customization.
oh and another thing... i wish they came with a durable bumper
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LOL. It was the one thing Moto had going for it. However, Lenovo has decided to take the Moto line down the path of a "modular" phone. I think only two of the mods intrigued me (camera and battery) but for the cost...just not worth it in my opinion. I kind of liked the ability to customize the appearance of the phone, but I don't think Lenovo will likely be trying to venture back into this arena.
Pure Edition remains in a realm of its own
There was definitely a noticeable drop in design quality after Lenovo fully took over. The Moto X Pure Edition was arguably their last good-looking phone. The new Z Series, G Series, E Series, and X Series look okay, (especially when compared with this year's disastrous setback of fugly phones from LG, Samsung, and Apple) but are really nothing special.
The Pure Edition's perfect mix of small body, large screen, and visual symmetry is quite pleasant. The only devices I saw this year that really pushed the envelope for design were the OnePlus 5T and HTC U11+, with the latter being only sold overseas. Honorable mention goes to that Essential PH-1, which brings LCD, Verizon Wireless, and an unlockable bootloader together again for the first time since the XPE, (and possibly a few other Motorola offerings [citation needed]) but folks have a right to be apprehensive about its lack of headphone jack, its ugly rounded screen corners, and the reports of poor wireless radio performance.
The more I look, the more I realize that the Pure Edition's formula has rarely been matched, and almost never superseded. So far, the only company who's gotten it close is HTC, with their 10 and U11 models, but the latter is unfortunately still way expensive, and the former never really fell down in price like I wanted it to either.
TL;DR? If you want a good phone, a good design, and a good price, the Pure Edition is still the only place where it's at right now. Check back in a couple of years maybe to see if the HTCs move anywhere in price.
I wonder why every flagship has to be glass+aluminium combo or aluminium only (even when it coated and feels like plastic like in new pixel). For me metal band and rubber, wooden on leather back feel premium enough and it's way more practical.
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I wonder why every flagship has to be glass+aluminium combo or aluminium only (even when it coated and feels like plastic like in new pixel). For me metal band and rubber, wooden on leather back feel premium enough and it's way more practical.
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Those are just the materials that are most trendy right now. My take on it is that the industry is just so cutthroat that nobody wants to make anything that isn't 90% mainstream, else they may threaten their profit margins. The miniscule amount of deviation that is allowed is of little consequence, ("moto mods," Essential globular camera, LG "friends," Blackberry Priv/Keyone vertical hardware keyboards, and the HTC squeezer) with the possible exception of that dual-screen ZTE phone, which is something we haven't seen since the ill-fated Kyocera Echo.
Wow the Pixel 3 XL is getting bagged and dogged on left and right as if it's the worst smartphone ever made. Yes it could have been designed better for sure. Try to go the more minimal notch like Essential or something, and no bottom chin, do the stereo speakers like the HTC 10, or and the iPhone XS, and Note 9's, do, etc... to allow a more full screen design. Yes give us 6GB RAM.
Mainly in tech forums I keep reading so much hate for the Pixel 3 XL;
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/pixel-3-pixel-3-xl.2106788/page-68#post-26666374
And YouTube channels dogging on the phone big time
But I still wouldn't go iPhone, just not an iOS fan whatsoever. And Samsung Touchwiz not my thing either. So if I hate the iPhone, don't like Galaxy phones and the Pixel 3 is sub par, what's the other options? I wish we had a third option, a Windows Surface phone or something.
Oh well, I still have my White Pixel 3 XL on order, and not changing. Yes the notch is ugly, and more RAM would have been nice, but I still value stock Android, updated directly and quickly from Google, and the smooth fluid vanilla UI, and the amazing camera, and A+ rated display, and IP68 rating, and wireless charging. Maybe I'm a sucker, but that's my choice.
Honestly, I didn't even notice the notch when I was checking out the display phone at Verizon. I love the feel of the phone, very well balanced and light compared to my old Nexus 6. Can't wait to get my phone call on Thursday (I hope) to come and pick up my phone.
I think manly they are charging Flagship prices but not delivering on flagship hardware /specs compared to whats already on the market and instead are betting on software to carry them. Now i love pure android how its meant to be not a fan of all tweaks each manufacture adds to the phone, If Samsung offered a note 9 /S9 pure (ie stock android no mods) i think the pixel would be left in its dust. The Pixel's have always seemed to be a generation behind. I love my pixel 2 xl i know i just wanted something more to go with the great feel of stock android and what not. maybe next year, i have my 3 XL ordered and will use it for a week or two to see if its worth the upgrade over my 2 XL
How would I have like to see Google design the Pixel 3 XL? Well on a realistic manner not some unrealistic futuristic design but a realistic version could have been a cross between like the LG V30 shape and size with the minimal bezels but give it the Essential notch and stretch the screen out on the top and bottom. And then do the stereo speakers like on the Note 9 or iPhone so they don't have to be front-facing, and allow for full display with almost no bezels at like 6.2" or so. And give it 6GB RAM. And a bigger 4,000MaH battery.
At the end of the day, for October 2018, I still think FOR ME, the Pixel 3 XL is the best phone out.
- Stock vanilla Android is my bread and butter OS. I go back to owning the Nexus-One when it was new, then waiting in line for the Nexus-S at launch. I just have a thing for stock Android, all other versions of Android just irritate me, or frustrate me.
- Updates first and quickly
- A+ rated display
- Best camera
- Wireless charging now
- IP68 rating is nice
- Phone can easily be rooted, mainly for the best ad blocking and Substratum themes
No other phone right now interests me. The Note 9 or S9+ ? Not at all, no way, Lagwiz still exists no matter what people say. The LG V40, yeah that's cool, but not a fan of the LG skin, and they suck at updates. iPhone XS Max looks super cool, a very beautifully built device, really liked it a lot, but man I hate iOS, and on the XS Max the OS looks out of place, dated like something from a decade ago. OnePlus 6T, yeah will be a great phone, but they always skimp somehow.
Is the Pixel 3 XL the best phone of 2018 ? NO, not at all. But for me a stock Android nerd, it's really the only option.
Yeah if the Iphone XS Max ran android it would be a dream phone lol IMO ... That said i do think the Note 9 Running stock android with all the software options of the pixel 3 would be a great option as well .
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Don't read Mac/Apple websites for reviews on Android devices. They are quite happy being locked into their apple ecosystem and will never appreciate the open source model of a pixel device.
No hate here, just wish the display was LARGER......Note9/V40 temp me with their larger displays......but I can't get away from pure google... C'mon google, 6.5 next year!!!
Why the hate? Did you notice that big black malignancy at the top of the screen? What about specs that are less than impressive? My guess is the answer is right there between those two things. Flagship means flagship, you want to charge this kinda money you need some wow factor and the ability to say you're second to none and have that hold water.
These devices don't give me that vibe. Too me they're like the second toughest guy on the block saying "Look, I can juggle!" As to the former enough has been said about it. I personally found my Best Buy experience to fall between what some said. At points when I was busy manipulating the GUI I forgot about it completely. Any time I stepped back from specific tasks the thing jumped out at me, it was like getting mugged with an ugly stick every timei looked at the phone as an object.
Yeah, I'm stupid so I'm still thinking about buying even though I'm not convinced I won't be sorry.
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I think manly they are charging Flagship prices but not delivering on flagship hardware /specs compared to whats already on the market and instead are betting on software to carry them. Now i love pure android how its meant to be not a fan of all tweaks each manufacture adds to the phone, If Samsung offered a note 9 /S9 pure (ie stock android no mods) i think the pixel would be left in its dust. The Pixel's have always seemed to be a generation behind. I love my pixel 2 xl i know i just wanted something more to go with the great feel of stock android and what not. maybe next year, i have my 3 XL ordered and will use it for a week or two to see if its worth the upgrade over my 2 XL
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I don't agree with this at all. The pixel 3 xl has a Samsung screen which looks amazing (and I bet is par or at least close to what you see on a Samsung phone), it has the latest Quallcom processor, the best cameras and software, same day updates, wireless charging, front facing speakers, I mean, what else does it need to be 'flagship specs' to you? What, because it only has 4 GB of RAM? That's literally the ONLY thing I can come up with, and that's only because many OEM's have stuffed more RAM in their phones this year. And honestly, it's not really necessary, at least not for 90% of people who use smartphones. Sheet, iPhones only have 4 GB or RAM. They only had ONE GB or RAM for a looonnnggg time. No one complained about that.
To me, this is a premium flagship, no question. The hate is mostly the RAM and notch. It's superficial. Last year it was the blue shift. Which, I think that plus the terrible quality control was actually warranted. This year, it's not much to hate on. Either you like it, or don't get it. And you can hide the notch. Either way, I'm excited about it coming today. I LOVE 2 xl, but I'm definitely ready for this upgrade, even though I was very on the fence before I checked one out in the store. My point here is, people are going to hate on something every time. Every time. If you don't like something, don't get it. It's really that simple.
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I don't agree with this at all. The pixel 3 xl has a Samsung screen which looks amazing (and I bet is par or at least close to what you see on a Samsung phone), it has the latest Quallcom processor, the best cameras and software, same day updates, wireless charging, front facing speakers, I mean, what else does it need to be 'flagship specs' to you? What, because it only has 4 GB of RAM? That's literally the ONLY thing I can come up with, and that's only because many OEM's have stuffed more RAM in their phones this year. And honestly, it's not really necessary, at least not for 90% of people who use smartphones. Sheet, iPhones only have 4 GB or RAM. They only had ONE GB or RAM for a looonnnggg time. No one complained about that.
To me, this is a premium flagship, no question. The hate is mostly the RAM and notch. It's superficial. Last year it was the blue shift. Which, I think that plus the terrible quality control was actually warranted. This year, it's not much to hate on. Either you like it, or don't get it. And you can hide the notch. Either way, I'm excited about it coming today. I LOVE 2 xl, but I'm definitely ready for this upgrade, even though I was very on the fence before I checked one out in the store. My point here is, people are going to hate on something every time. Every time. If you don't like something, don't get it. It's really that simple.
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I was simply stating why i think so many people hate the new pixel 3 xl from reading it sure does seem like a lot don't like it.
I agree the screen looks great but it should since they woke up and used a Samsung panel this time yay , my issue with it is its basically the same size as the 2 xl when you look at the usable part of the display and that is kinda disappointing to me i wanted a screen the size of the note 9 / XS max on the pixel 3 xl instead they went with a huge notch that takes away from the phone in stead of adding to it i honestly think they would have been better with out it at all, in person the notch isn't bad at all its big but once you play with it for a bit i didn't notice it as much and i don't mind the bottom chin as people call it since i love front firing speakers always hated cupping the end of the phone to direct the sound lol . They added an extra front camera and notch but no type of face id another missing feature that would have been a great addition to the pixel but we got wireless charging back so i guess its a trade off.
I said nothing about the ram because i think that's a mute point for most for the exact reason you said, apple has had little ram for a long time there is a difference between the two since apple designs the cpu they can help optimize it for the amount of ram they are using but mostly they iOS optimized for how it can handle the ram. google does the same with the pixel, most of the other phones need the extra ram because all the bs they add uses so much of it. for me as of now my daily usage on my 2 XL is 2.4-3.2 or so, 4gb is enough for me in 6 months that may not be the case but i doubt it
everyone has different ideas of what makes a phone flag ship quality or not, so this is just my opinion and you can agree or not for me i feel they could have done better and they came up a bit short compared to other phones only time will tell though and i still cant wait to get mine and use it to see if its worth the upgrade from the 2xl or not for me.
Nah, I don't buy it. Flagship is flagship. Almost flagship if it weren't for one big weakness is not flagship, it's second rate. I'm one of those people that can take advantage of more than 4 gigs of ram, I'm currently using 3.2 at home which is about average for me but usually hit in the upper 4s, lower 5s at work. Go ahead and name the one phone which is claiming flagship status and charging flagship prices but does not have me covered? See where I'm going?
Flagships is flagship, not second best with software optimization that every rooted oneplus will have installed not too far down the road on a phone that costs little more than half the price. Yeah, I'm talking about the camera. Still perhaps best in class overall but more than one reviewer has noted that telephoto shots lag behind other flagships including the fruit devices. They need to up their game here, flagships don't polish turds, they deliver the best hardware and polish that.
One that doesn't bother me in the slightest that I noted is the phones perceived build quality is a step behind Samsung and Apple. I cant point to one particular thing, either of those two just felt a little more expensive. As I said, I don't care because the phone will go into a case and I wont see it again until I give it to one of my kids or grand-kids in the spring.
So yeah, to me it feels like it's not quite up to flagship par except in price. It's all those things combined that give me that impression. And yeah, I'm still thinking about buying it, last night I got as far as putting it in my cart. Pixel has always been more the whole than the sum of its part, they are satisfying to own even if some things about them are underwhelming. The doubletake on the notch has me spooked though, when I was moving around the GUI it faded out of existence but when I just looked at the phone I kept doing this "whoa, what the hell were they thinking" thing. Cant figure out if that's ever going to go away or if it's going to be like a sore tooth. Still, buy in or not I'll never really consider it flagship hardware and every redraw I get will remind me of it should I start to forget.
The flagship price, the poor software utilization of the notch, the smaller battery and 4 GB RAM were the deal breakers.
The Note 9 is every bit as fast as the Pixel 3 XL, has a much better screen, better battery and SPen for the same price. The Pixel 3 XL may very well be a great phone but when priced with the Note 9, it needed SOMETHING to justify the price. Also, one can easily get a great condition LG V35 ThinQ or S9+ with better specs for hundreds less. Once the price drops, then it might be a better competitor.
For me a premium device needs to last me 2 years and be a useful companion for the duration.
The phone needs to be well built to last, have a good screen and the hardware features need to be ergonomic.
In addition to this the phone must have quick, well thought out software that ties in nicely to my favourite services.
For me, my best option is the Pixel 3 XL. I was considering the new Mate 20 pro as it is very similar in price here in the UK but there is now way I'll be putting up with their software and clutterware for two years. I'm also put off by their storage media and awful to uae, curved screen.
The pixel is getting stick for having underwhelming specs but this is a very short-sighted view unless your sole purpose for the device is to run benchmarks. People needs to evaluate what they use their phones for and what they need to achieve that.
I'm running the original Pixel XL 32Gb and it is still fantastic for all of my everyday uses. My wife is in fact selling her Samsung s9 and will be having my Pixel now that I've upgraded to the 3 XL.
Just as a side note, iPhones are brilliant for many as they offer a great experience across their devices and therefore are useful for their duration. This is more important than having a 40MP camera and 8Gb of RAM for the vast majority.
A lot of that was subjective: I find the Apple experience awful, spread it out across more devices and I call that cancer. I have to say however that your concept in general is on the mark in that the experience is what matters rather than the numbers. It's a fair summation.
for the peeps that hate on the notch and the ram .. just go buy the OnePlus 6T and be done with it
It's all just opinion as we have stayed here. The easy to pick on parts of any product is the visual appearance and listed specs. The new pixel XL appears to be poor in this area for a lot of people. Usabilit of the entire package is impossible to judge from online reviews.
If it is anything like the original Pixel, the phone will be great. If it's like my old Samsung phones or my iPhone 7, no thank you.
The phone is what it is. If you don't like it for the way it looks or a feature that it has or doesn't have, don't buy it. If all you have to say is you hate the notch, spare us. There are a lot of phones I don't like. I don't buy them and I don't seek out their communities and complain about them. This forum is here for the people that have the phone, not for those that hate it.
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The phone is what it is. If you don't like it for the way it looks or a feature that it has or doesn't have, don't buy it. If all you have to say is you hate the notch, spare us. There are a lot of phones I don't like. I don't buy them and I don't seek out their communities and complain about them. This forum is here for the people that have the phone, not for those that hate it.
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This! Sooo much this! Last year with the pixel 2 xl, there were so many trolls who had zero intention of ever buying the phone who came onto the forum just to talk sheet. One thread went hundreds of pages. It was ridiculous and stupid. If people like that really have that much time on their hands that they have to go troll things that have nothing to do with them, get a hobby or a life. Seriously. I'm surprised there isn't more yet on here. But, people have only begun to start getting their phones, so, I'm not holding my breath that it won't start.
It still looks like a toy next to any Samsung phones.
My note 9 looks like a monster next to my xl3.
I hate the notch. I'm not those people that will get over it.
I never will.
Anyway, display on xl3 looks great to me.
Camera is amazing.
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I like this device but it's a little slow for me at some points. It's not a shot at this device which I consider a decent value but I'm retty sure I'm going to move into something else, possibly this fall. That something being the Pixel 4, I like everything about it so far except I would have preferred a symmetrical bottom/top bezel. If I don't bolt this fall the spring is a near certainty but I've got no guess what might be the more interesting devices at that point. What about you folks, happy enough to have not considered it? Thinking about moving to the next thing? If so, what?
I might get the Pixel 4. It depends on what they do with ram and the cameras. I would like a telephoto lens on the back but so far I've been reading the second sensor may be a wide angle one.
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Google confirmed 3, wide angle, telephoto, and infrared. The last seems to be a bit of a mystery as to what it's going to be doing, some think it's for improving night shots but no one seems to know exactly what all it might do.
The 4a XL on a free trade, but might have to wait a bit...
ill get whatever phone is notchless and has a headphone jack
i got the pixel 3a xl for that exact reason, im sick of seeing bullet holes and notches on phones
I just read an updated article about the Goog leak and I need to make a correction, it's a spectral sensor, not infrared. My apologies for the misinformation. I'm still probably in, I've no idea what spectral is but it sounds like something I want.
Google self released preliminary images of the Pixel 4, and I got to say the square bump-out that holds two back cameras and a flash LED does not look great, either from Apple or Google. There was previous renderings of a slick smooth back with a flat oval that contained the cameras that that looked much more impressive. Consensus was that was a cool clean design. The feedback on what was recently released, not so much.
Copying Apple designs by itself does not guarantee success. The previous design looked original, however what they put out now just looks like another Apple clone...
duh1 said:
Google self released preliminary images of the Pixel 4, and I got to say the square bump-out that holds two back cameras and a flash LED does not look great, either from Apple or Google. There was previous renderings of a slick smooth back with a flat oval that contained the cameras that that looked much more impressive. Consensus was that was a cool clean design. The feedback on what was recently released, not so much.
Copying Apple designs by itself does not guarantee success. The previous design looked original, however what they put out now just looks like another Apple clone...
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ah who cares what the back looks like. put a case on it.
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Looks like the base stats are starting to get out there and the Pixel 4 is more and more shaping up to become my next phone. If Samsung hadn't made it such a pain to root I might consider the Note 10 but after suffering through the 8 I'm pretty much done with them unless a very unlikely turn around comes in their policies. These are really the only two that have been pinging on my radar, seems like their should be more but there is always some catch with phones nowadays...
I'm just hoping the hideous notched display and useless curved edge display era is over across the next generation of phones. It definitely limited my choices this go around because I'm not into gimmicks over practicality; but hey - that's just me.
The pixel 4 looks nice so far, and more OEMs are starting to ditch the display notches as well, so at least we'll have better options coming around in the future.
Yeah, no question, I didn't make friends with notches and at this point I'm sure I never will. Only had one as it turned out, the 6T, which didn't kill me but I never stopped noticing it as some people say they do.
Possibly the Pixel 4 but if ASUS gets the Zenfone 6 out soon in Canada I may get it.
Can you root those?
Devhux said:
Possibly the Pixel 4 but if ASUS gets the Zenfone 6 out soon in Canada I may get it.
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I stick with Google. Got the 3a XL on Friday after dropping my 2 XL on hard concrete :crying:
The software is the best I have ever seen on phones, I just root the phone and call it a day. Easy updates every month. No hassle.
This is worth more to me than screen-to-body-ratio or industrial design or whatnot. Crappy or outdated software ruins everything anyways.
But YMMW, just an opinion
I wouldn't mind the faster Snapdragon 855 over our 670, but I do admit my 3a XL is mostly good enough speed wise.
So... Air gestures and face ID confirmed on the Pix 4 today. I'm so in...
Ill get the pixel 4a xl. Basically the lighter version of pixel 4xl with some minor upgrades battery and screen size,for example i dont need the face recognition ,a finger print scanner is fine,and i dont need 4 cameras one 16 back and 16 front is fine with me ,mind you im a mobile photographer.And a simple plastic white back no glass cause i really dont use wireless charging and the lastic does not feel far from the glass back of the pixel 3.Tbh the android 10 almost is the perfect os for me so no extra stuff there.What i really want to have is bokah on video and real time captions and translation ,but im sure google has that on lock
I wouldn't want to guess how Goog will gimp the A versions to make them "mid range" devices. I sure didn't see them leaving the cool live wallpaper out on the 3A's as an example.
luigi90210 said:
ill get whatever phone is notchless and has a headphone jack
i got the pixel 3a xl for that exact reason, im sick of seeing bullet holes and notches on phones
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Here here to that ?
I've decided to get a OnePlus 7 Pro. I just can't see paying $1,000+ for a Pixel 4 XL. I like my 3A XL, but it is slow, honestly, and just not up to the performance I want out of a smartphone.
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