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HI Guys,
I currently have the S5 and am looking to get a new phone but finding it hard to choose between S7 and the OnePlus 3?
I understand the Oneplus 3 is better value for money but which is the best phone overall? I am leaning towards Samsung as I have always used a Samsung but only worry is whether the performance drops after a few months? The 6GB ram on the Oneplus is pretty tempting but again not sure if with time the performance will be affected.
asureka90 said:
HI Guys,
I currently have the S5 and am looking to get a new phone but finding it hard to choose between S7 and the OnePlus 3?
I understand the Oneplus 3 is better value for money but which is the best phone overall? I am leaning towards Samsung as I have always used a Samsung but only worry is whether the performance drops after a few months? The 6GB ram on the Oneplus is pretty tempting but again not sure if with time the performance will be affected.
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I think either device would be a great upgrade as both companies have done a great job as far as refining their flagship device and so you'll be getting a top phone either way. I have previously had a Galaxy S4 which I really liked and also a Oneplus which I also really liked, both for different reasons. Its going to come down to what needs/preferences you have or want to have in a new device such as camera, sound, build, software, etc.
I found my Oneplus One was great for ROMs,mods and tweaks, there was endless things you could tinker with if you wanted to (you didnt have to). With the S7, it will depend on whether you will be using the Snapdragon or Exynos version, as the bootloader is locked down on the Snapdragon version and so there wont be any aosp ROMs until someone (ever?) finds a way around that. The bonus of the Oneplus one was that it shipped with Cyanogen OS and there were so many (there still are) other ROMs you could try and choose from. Im not sure how this will compare on the OP3, but then again it might not be a big concern to you.
I have the Exynos version S7 myself and havent bothered with rooting or any roms yet as it runs so well out of the box, but its nice to know the option is there if I ever feel like it. I think the upgrade from S5->S7 is a good one for you, as you dont lose features such as the micro sd card and water/dust resistance, which you would have with the S6. The one thing that you would lose would be the ability to use a second battery as its obviously non-removable with the S7, but then again there are tons of good portable batteries these days which can cover that situation.
The OP3 definitely seems like a solid device in terms of actual physical build and specs, it would also be a nice change from Samsung/Touchwiz if you wanted a slightly different OS experience. I dont think the 6GB is something you will appreciate day to day or feel the benefit of right away, as Oneplus themselves hadnt really even optimised for 6GB of ram when they released the device and are currently working on an OTA to address this. But its definitely going to future proof the device for while and provide solid multitasking abilities, although the 4GB on the S7 does a great job of this as well.
I would read through the S7 and OP3 forums on XDA to get a feel of user's opinions and any pros and cons. Sometimes things (good or bad) only come to light a while after the devices have been in the hands of owners who are using them day in day out and putting them through their paces. I would happily recommend the S7 for lovely build quality, superb display, top camera, good battery and all the other features that are actually useful (water resistance, sd card slot). If I didnt have my S7 (it was a contract upgrade) I would seriously consider the OP3, especially as you can just order it without an invite this time, it seems to be very good value for money.
@gsmyth pretty much said it all. Give us an idea of how you use your Galaxy S5. Have you rooted, custom recovery, ROM's etc... Are you a multitasker, heavy browser or social media addict?
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S7 has
Much Better screen with higher resolution
Waterproof
Better warranty
Better camera
Better battery (screen on time)
Sd card 200g
Faster internal storage(speed)
Not usb type c (more accesories)
Exynos processor faster (multicore and everyday life use)
One plus 3 has
More ram
Better gpu for gaming
No knox
Rooting without loosing warranty
Os is simpler like aosp
Developer friendly
Lower price
Build quality is very good in both phones also design is something subjective.
Hi
I have a S7 and my daughter has a S7 Edge , both perform great , both look great ......i am really happy with it
http://m.pocketnow.com/2016/06/28/oneplus-3-vs-samsung-galaxy-s7
here a comparative of the two phones pro and con on both side
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asureka90 said:
HI Guys,
I currently have the S5 and am looking to get a new phone but finding it hard to choose between S7 and the OnePlus 3?
I understand the Oneplus 3 is better value for money but which is the best phone overall? I am leaning towards Samsung as I have always used a Samsung but only worry is whether the performance drops after a few months? The 6GB ram on the Oneplus is pretty tempting but again not sure if with time the performance will be affected.
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Perhaps you're interested in my initial comparison between the two over on the OnePlus forum (What device did you ditch for one plus3? - Post 284).
With the S7(E) you are paying (considerably extra) for Screen and Camera Quality, Weatherproofing and design.
If these are not so important you can save money with the Op3. It is a good phone.
Hope this helps somewhat.
S5
I had a S3 before that I rooted and was using Cynagoen Mod for a while but that phone became extremely unstable and just became a brick by the end of it so I decided not to root or install custom ROM on my S5 thinking it would perform better over the long term. However after a year or so the performance dropped a lot and the past 6 months it's been terrible. It
I am more of a multi tasker and do use couple of different social media platforms but not too addicted by any means.
Thanks!
Thanks for your detailed response!! Really appreciate it!
gsmyth said:
I think either device would be a great upgrade as both companies have done a great job as far as refining their flagship device and so you'll be getting a top phone either way. I have previously had a Galaxy S4 which I really liked and also a Oneplus which I also really liked, both for different reasons. Its going to come down to what needs/preferences you have or want to have in a new device such as camera, sound, build, software, etc.
I found my Oneplus One was great for ROMs,mods and tweaks, there was endless things you could tinker with if you wanted to (you didnt have to). With the S7, it will depend on whether you will be using the Snapdragon or Exynos version, as the bootloader is locked down on the Snapdragon version and so there wont be any aosp ROMs until someone (ever?) finds a way around that. The bonus of the Oneplus one was that it shipped with Cyanogen OS and there were so many (there still are) other ROMs you could try and choose from. Im not sure how this will compare on the OP3, but then again it might not be a big concern to you.
I have the Exynos version S7 myself and havent bothered with rooting or any roms yet as it runs so well out of the box, but its nice to know the option is there if I ever feel like it. I think the upgrade from S5->S7 is a good one for you, as you dont lose features such as the micro sd card and water/dust resistance, which you would have with the S6. The one thing that you would lose would be the ability to use a second battery as its obviously non-removable with the S7, but then again there are tons of good portable batteries these days which can cover that situation.
The OP3 definitely seems like a solid device in terms of actual physical build and specs, it would also be a nice change from Samsung/Touchwiz if you wanted a slightly different OS experience. I dont think the 6GB is something you will appreciate day to day or feel the benefit of right away, as Oneplus themselves hadnt really even optimised for 6GB of ram when they released the device and are currently working on an OTA to address this. But its definitely going to future proof the device for while and provide solid multitasking abilities, although the 4GB on the S7 does a great job of this as well.
I would read through the S7 and OP3 forums on XDA to get a feel of user's opinions and any pros and cons. Sometimes things (good or bad) only come to light a while after the devices have been in the hands of owners who are using them day in day out and putting them through their paces. I would happily recommend the S7 for lovely build quality, superb display, top camera, good battery and all the other features that are actually useful (water resistance, sd card slot). If I didnt have my S7 (it was a contract upgrade) I would seriously consider the OP3, especially as you can just order it without an invite this time, it seems to be very good value for money.
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Thanks!
Thanks! Was helpful, the price difference for the S7 is $120 USD extra so it would be worth paying $120 for those added features
drummerman said:
Perhaps you're interested in my initial comparison between the two over on the OnePlus forum (What device did you ditch for one plus3? - Post 284).
With the S7(E) you are paying (considerably extra) for Screen and Camera Quality, Weatherproofing and design.
If these are not so important you can save money with the Op3. It is a good phone.
Hope this helps somewhat.
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kutulu32 said:
S7 has
Much Better screen with higher resolution
Waterproof
Better warranty
Better camera
Better battery (screen on time)
Sd card 200g
Faster internal storage(speed)
Not usb type c (more accesories)
Exynos processor faster (multicore and everyday life use)
One plus 3 has
More ram
Better gpu for gaming
No knox
Rooting without loosing warranty
Os is simpler like aosp
Developer friendly
Lower price
Build quality is very good in both phones also design is something subjective.
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More ram but its worst than s7 4gb ram.
S7 better choice.
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asureka90 said:
Thanks for your detailed response!! Really appreciate it!
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No worries, let us know what you decide on. :good:
Whichever device you choose I think you will be happy. It's always fun when I pick up a new device especially when it's one of the latest flagship devices. Let us know which one you get. Good luck!
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gsmyth said:
No worries, let us know what you decide on. :good:
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Got the S7 in silver! Going to switch today! Whats the best way to transfer all my data/apps to my new phone?
Also, does using Nova Launcher and Swift Keyboard affect the phones performance? I have used these two apps from day one so was wondering if its better to use the stock options for improved performance!
Thanks! @gsmyth @fast69mopar
Great. You'll be happy with the S7E especially now that root is available. The root game all happened in the last few days and there are several threads dedicated to rooting your device. I surely don't think using Nova with SwiftKey will affect performance in any way. Give it a shot and report back so other users will know. Good luck with your new S7E.
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fast69mopar said:
Great. You'll be happy with the S7E especially now that root is available. The root game all happened in the last few days and there are several threads dedicated to rooting your device. I surely don't think using Nova with SwiftKey will affect performance in any way. Give it a shot and report back so other users will know. Good luck with your new S7E.
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Cheers! Will let you know how it goes!
asureka90 said:
Got the S7 in silver! Going to switch today! Whats the best way to transfer all my data/apps to my new phone?
Also, does using Nova Launcher and Swift Keyboard affect the phones performance? I have used these two apps from day one so was wondering if its better to use the stock options for improved performance!
Thanks! @gsmyth @fast69mopar
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Nice one!
There is the Samsung switch app which should get most of your data over from your old device. You also get a USB OTG type adapter to hook up for transferring data.
I also use Nova launcher on devices as it's so customisable and also to get that stock look, but haven't installed it on my S7 as I haven't felt the need. Previously touchwiz was pretty laggy and boring looking but I think Samsung have actually improved it quite well. I do miss not having the hide apps feature and having to re-sort the app drawer after installing an app is pretty annoying,but not a deal breaker for me. I have also installed a material theme which changes the icon theme as well ( plus it themes the pull down drawer and settings menu.
I also just use the Samsung keyboard as it's working OK for me, again I have used the Google one on other devices but haven't felt the need to install another one. You can always give both apps a try and see what you prefer on your S7, it really depends on what you find better/nicer/easier.
Enjoy your new phone and see you around XDA!
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if you looking for value go to op3 but if you have budget go to s7
Hello , I'm considering upgrading my 4 years old HTC M8 and I'm looking at the Galaxy S7 , LG V20 , LG G6 ( Not plus ) , HTC 10 .
After reading last night about the S7 on reddit a lot of owners were complaining about battery life and screen burn .
what's your experience with the S7 or S7e ? would you recommend it over the other devices I mentioned ? is there anything else I can get within the price range ?
I've had an S7 (G930F) since it came out. A few months ago I broke it so bought an LG G6. After a week I found the display not as good (can't see the screen in strong sunlight while using the camera), camera interior to the old S7, missed touchwiz (surprisingly), but the biggest thing was the ergonomics. The S7 is the perfect size for one handed use. Phones are getting too big or top heavy to one hand easily. I've now bought a dual SIM G930FD and won't be looking at newer models till this croaks it. I've noticed the flat S8 is a millimeter narrower than the S7, so if you have small hands could be worth a look.
Pretty sure everyone here would still recommend the S7 in 2017 otherwise they would have bought a new phone...
Already threads identical to this one
I ve had several LG Flagships, my opinion is to stay away. Network connection problems (signal gets lost randomly and not coming back if you dont reboot) since G2 maybe G, bootloops in a bunch of models and image retention problem in their screens. LG Mobile marketshare is very small and they don't care making reliable phones.
My advice, stay with brands that have served you well or they belong to the big players. Samsung, Apple, or Huawei. Maybe Xiaomi too. Or you can stay in HTC's territory if you were satisfied.
Personally last phone on my hands is Galaxy S7. Battery life is as in every Android phone, some security patches or play services versions can cause battery drains but updates can fix it after a while. Otherwise problems to non problematic devices are caused by third party apps or by disabling preinstalled apps & services.
I bought it in June this year and haven't regretted it for a second. I'd take an S7 over phones you named any day.
The G6's design is nice but there's all there is to it.
If you're not a camera guy, try getting OnePlus 3T or 5. Other than that, I have no recommendations.
I just got one. Coming from S5 running RR. So far I miss the replaceable battery but love the camera. Performance I would say is about the same. I'm leaving the S7 stock for now, just switched to Nova launcher.
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Go for the S7, I haven't heard anyone complaining about it so far.
sure...im using s7 for 10 months and no problem at all....few little problems here and there 99% solved with update and now this is really a good phone with good size( size is very very important for daily use)
If you want an in-its-whole reliable and secure phone with a fast camera, your only options are Apple and Samsung devices if we talk about the high end category. I ve made this conclusion after changing lots of phones and reaearching about them a lot. I am not saying you can't find something else that fits your requirements, but it's possible that issues, bugs etc you did not expect, may come up out of the blue.
So, if you don't like iPhones, you 'll have to choose a Samsung device and S7 is onw of them.
All that is my opinion, one can say this is not like this, I had that device and it was like blah blah. What I say is based on possibility and statistics and I like to help people as I ve done some stupid things in the past concerning phone buys and learned from my mistakes.
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mario24601 said:
I just got one. Coming from S5 running RR. So far I miss the replaceable battery but love the camera. Performance I would say is about the same. I'm leaving the S7 stock for now, just switched to Nova launcher.
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I've been enjoying mine, granted only been few days so far but I'm impressed. I do miss functionality of RR but I'm sure I'll get use to lacking those features. Size is good and has a headphone jack
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I need a new phone. I've been on a Note 4 for a while now, and it has reached its end-of-life. Done tons of research, and even when compared against the latest-and-greatest, the Pixel 2 still reviews well. It seems to be exactly what I am looking for. Even though the announcement of the Pixel 3 is right around the corner, it will mostly likely be late Oct / early Nov before consumers can get them in hand anyway. Five months is a long time, and I'm kind of ready to make a move now.
Is the Pixel 2 still the way to go? Do I have to bite the bullet and get another Samsung and get an s9? (I'm on AT&T btw, and I'm really really sick of having a carrier locked phone and waiting on AT&T to add bloatware to all the updates).
Would I be stupid to get the Pixel 2 today? Talk me into it / talk me out of it.
You'd be stupid to go Samsung again, that's for sure.
The Note 4 was arguably Samsung's peak for the Note line, and the S7 Edge the peak for their S line. Sure the new designs are fancy, but are fragile, and Samsung are horrendous when it comes to updates.
I'd suggest looking into a OnePlus 6 especially if you're sick of being carrier locked. Cheaper and more powerful than the Pixel 2, better in every way aside from speakers and camera if they are important to you.
That being said, I miss my Pixel 2 XL for the software as it's so damn smooth, but I do not miss the abysmal screen (Note 4 screen is better). So if you go Pixel 2, definitely get the smaller one with the nicer Samsung screen.
As opposed to what ? Samsung ? Pixel 2 still had several years of guaranteed updates and a smoother software interface with less bloat. I could understand MAYBE if you said an iPhone as most businesses are starting to use iOS and Apple supports their software for several years but against a Samsung that's just a joke.
My $0.02., develop your own pros/cons list as no one knows what's more important to you, than you. Example, I absolutely hate lag in software, probably an unhealthy amount... I also enjoy a headphone jack, but that's less important than software to _me_. At the end of the day, no phone is better at software and camera than the Pixel 2 (I have non-XL, coming from a Samsung Galaxy S3) and that's what I think ultimately creates the Pixel appeal because literally every time you use your phone, in an app, to take a pic, etc, you get that top-of-the-line software experience. How much does Samsung's superior hardware matter when apps lag or freeze and frustrate the user or they're running a 6-month old security patch level?
Also got mine 50% off during Verizon's Black Friday deal last year, figured the savings was worth the locked bootloader. Then we got an unlock method anyways in December so win-win, half price + unlocked BL now. Is the P2 worth full price to you? Who knows. But good luck whatever path you choose!
istrikerx said:
You'd be stupid to go Samsung again, that's for sure.
The Note 4 was arguably Samsung's peak for the Note line, and the S7 Edge the peak for their S line. Sure the new designs are fancy, but are fragile, and Samsung are horrendous when it comes to updates.
I'd suggest looking into a OnePlus 6 especially if you're sick of being carrier locked. Cheaper and more powerful than the Pixel 2, better in every way aside from speakers and camera if they are important to you.
That being said, I miss my Pixel 2 XL for the software as it's so damn smooth, but I do not miss the abysmal screen (Note 4 screen is better). So if you go Pixel 2, definitely get the smaller one with the nicer Samsung screen.
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I love my Pixel 2, but honestly the reason I bought it was because of the camera and because I thought there would be more rom development by this point, but mostly for the camera. I came from a oneplus 3t and I loved that phone so much. The development community was large and very active, and the phone's hardware was awesome.
If it wasn't for the Pixel 2's camera, I would've much rather upgraded to a newer oneplus device or even stuck with my 3t. But seriously, imo forget samsung and there locked ass bootloaders and stupidly overpriced phones.
I ditched Samsung (S6) finally last month and got the Pixel2. I am not much of a ROM flasher but root is very important to me. I was dreading going down in resolution but haven't regretted it once.
Is there any reason NOT to get the Pixel 2? What other phone is popular enough to receive continual updates, and easy to find accessories? Gives fast performance without lag-inducing bloat-ware?
I have an AT&T brand Note 8 and i really like the phone (wish i would have bought the unlocked version). But i like to root and flash roms occasionally and I'm pretty limited on the Note 8. Lucky me my work takes me all across Texas and i just happen to be where AT&T don't have service so i bought the Pixel 2 direct from Google and I'm loving it. I'm running it on Verizon. Super easy to unlock bootloader and root. I've only had it for about a month now and have only did one update (the June update) that got a little confusing but i figured it out (i downloaded it myself from Google instead of doing the ota). Personally, i think the camera on the Note 8 is better than the Pixel 2 camera, but i have both phones so i can always take pictures with the Note and it syncs to my Google photos and i have the pic on both phones. I do feel like the Pixel runs a lot smoother than the Note though. If you buy a Pixel, I'd suggest buying straight from Google so you don't have to worry about the bootloader, although i know carriers bundling things in makes it hard to pass up.
I believe it is still going strong and worth a buy.
Personally I don't the notch design which everyone is copying from Apple now.
In fact I bought one three weeks ago and I'm very happy with it. It's already running Android P DP3. I have considered a Huawei P20, but in the end went with the Pixel 2, mainly because of the fast updates and stock Android (I came from a Nexus 5X)
No regrets!
Meh not that many accessories...
mellojoe said:
Is there any reason NOT to get the Pixel 2? What other phone is popular enough to receive continual updates, and easy to find accessories? Gives fast performance without lag-inducing bloat-ware?
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Well, gotta disagree a little with you on the bolded section. The P2 just isn't sold in large enough numbers to get the choices in accessories like the mainstream iPhones, S9, etc. Otterbox Defender series only has 2 colors for crying out loud...
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It could be a winner for you if that's what you want...luv mine!
Personally I would wait and buy a cheaper, last year's phone in the meanwhile.
Pixel 2 series is great, but you still have to make hard compromises. If you want the 2018 screen quality, go pixel 2; if you want a 2018 battery life and screen size, go XL. But to me these 3 things are essential to a phone (ok maybe not the screen size). Considering the price being top of the lines even compared to an iPhone, and it is a 2017 phone (sort), I would wait.
Plus I got a feel that Pixel 3 may come with wireless charging and other technologies that would make using a phone more convenient. While Pixel 2 is just, with great camera. Not an important factor to me personally.
I just got it coming from a Huawei mate 10
Honestly its a great phone . I got the small version cuz I have a U11PLUS plus as my daily big screen phone. And it's awesome they have all these goodness in such a small phone can be handled one hand
At the moment u11plus plus 128gb and 6gb ram is going for 600$ ish on eBay. If u don't care about updates I would advice u to go with it. The camera with gcam performing better than the pixel believe it or not and the battery is the best in the market. Colours of amazing silver or red are phenomenal, nothing else comes close even the copycat p20 pro
Absolutely! I would recommend the Pixel 2 to anybody who asked I haven't even had any reason to want the XL - I've just got the 5" Pixel.
The software is essentially bloat-free (if you use the Google apps) and the experience is as polished as that of the iPhone.
(I'm not a fan of the iPhone but anybody who's used an Android can't deny on most phones the platform is bloated and a little half-assed in places.)
Plus, if you're big into getting the latest Android versions - we get the Android betas first (and they're supported for 2 years.)
And, once the 2 years are up, if you haven't got a new phone by then, I'd imagine there would be a ton of custom ROMs and such for the phone.
I'm planning on developing some ROMs for the Pixel 2 but I haven't for the moment because I have no reason to; the software is the best I've experienced, so I have no reason to mod the phone. (This is probably why there isn't much in the way of development going on for the phone)
In my opinion, the camera is excellent; I don't use it that much but when I do, it's fast, the quality is fantastic and I have trouble faulting it.
Finally, the battery life is great. As a student, I don't use my phone all day but relatively speaking, I'm quite a heavy user and I get about 3 hours more screen time than most others. Plus, as the phone charges to upwards of 80% in about 45 minutes, battery isn't really an issue. (5-10 minutes at an AC outlet can usually get it up to 20%.)
TL;DR: Particularly if you buy a phone for utility (rather than as a fashion statement), this phone is brilliant. It's the best Android device I've ever owned and, I think, one of the best on the market.
If you want something that looks a bit more flashy, I'd suggest the Pixel XL, though.
The give-a-friend 15% offer is making this pracitcally a no-brainer for me. That brings a brand new direct from Google Pixel2 to $550. That's basically the same price as low end or older model phones. Looks like I'll be picking one up. Thanks for the advice.
Feel free to add any more thoughts, tho, cause I'm sure as we get closer to the launch of the 3, more people are going to be asking for opnions on the 2 as a budget-friendly option.
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I believe it is still going strong and worth a buy.
Personally I don't the notch design which everyone is copying from Apple now.
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Let me correct you sir. Copying from Essential ph-1, not apple. Apple copying that design from Essential ph-1. Get it right.
ivanov13 said:
Let me correct you sir. Copying from Essential ph-1, not apple. Apple copying that design from Essential ph-1. Get it right.
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Ahh, I see. Learned that recently, thanks.
This year Pixel 3 should be the choice if I want to change my phone again.
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In fact I bought one three weeks ago and I'm very happy with it. It's already running Android P DP3. I have considered a Huawei P20, but in the end went with the Pixel 2, mainly because of the fast updates and stock Android (I came from a Nexus 5X)
No regrets!
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me too, I bought my pixel 2 (128GB) using a 20% coupon, used to have a nexus 5x, huge improvement
Hello, all it is great to be back on XDA after long not being able to do anything with my phone because Samsung locks it down so you can't touch the US variants of their phones anymore! I decided to "downgrade" to a Moto G6 and save my money and free myself from Samsungs crapware etc. My thoughts from playing with it so far are that for the price it is incredible! Fast charging is faster than my S9+, battery life is better, overall system responsiveness is very consistent, and the screen is not at all bad! This barely feels like a downgrade at all. It feels like a breath of fresh air in an over saturated market of very pricey devices. I had the original Moto G and it is still to this day the most bang for my buck device ever. It still works and still runs Android 8 even! The OnePlus One is a close contender but I really need something that works on all major US networks. Only Samsung, Apple, HTC, LG, and Motorolla were really options for me. Out of those, I thought the G6 would likely be the most tinker friendly and budget friendly. So far that seems to be holding true as development looks to be on the horizon and there are open kernel sources! Who knows maybe I will take a crack at doing a simple AOSP ROM! Cheers everyone!
P.S. Enjoy the extra money in your pockets from not buying something overpriced like the iPhone X.
And you needed to post this... Why?
Dadud said:
And you needed to post this... Why?
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Why not? I do not think that this goes against the purpose of the News & Discussion section. I figure something like this would be welcome. :silly:
Yeah, try to do some custom ROMs please. Or fix bugs on treble ROMs, if you're able to do it ?
Hey there!
I just bought a G6 today and i'm coming from S6 Edge Plus.
Of course, this is not like a S9, but I was using the "port" version of S9 rom and i don't think Samsung's changed that much. After buying this phone I agree and understand what you are talking. I feel like I'm upgrading to a more expensive phone. Everything has this stock animations, smoothness and the battery... Omg... The baterry is fantastic!
I stopped to think about why spend so much i Samsung's phone if you can get even better experience with another phones on the market? Just because of a design that certainly will be covered by a case and a good screen.
Of course I miss the camera, but I can get over it
Loved reading the post. Don't mind the guy up above and his poor attitude.
Just like the OP i have 3 of these moto G6 play's and 1 iPhone X. The G6 is by far the bang for the buck in everyway. These phones even have facial recognition !
BTW, i picked up these phones for less than $100 each.................................
chokers said:
Just like the OP i have 3 of these moto G6 play's and 1 iPhone X. The G6 is by far the bang for the buck in everyway. These phones even have facial recognition !
BTW, i picked up these phones for less than $100 each.................................
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Wow how did you manage that deal? Used!? That is a great deal even from the play!
calage1234 said:
Hey there!
I just bought a G6 today and i'm coming from S6 Edge Plus.
Of course, this is not like a S9, but I was using the "port" version of S9 rom and i don't think Samsung's changed that much. After buying this phone I agree and understand what you are talking. I feel like I'm upgrading to a more expensive phone. Everything has this stock animations, smoothness and the battery... Omg... The baterry is fantastic!
I stopped to think about why spend so much i Samsung's phone if you can get even better experience with another phones on the market? Just because of a design that certainly will be covered by a case and a good screen.
Of course I miss the camera, but I can get over it
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Yeah I am going to miss the camera a lot but for the price it is making me like it a lot more. Also Samsung needs to up their quick charge game. Thinking about the camera again though... For the difference in price you can get a killer used DSLR or maybe even a new one not including lenses.
This is evidence that price does not equal quality. I'm glad you like your phone as much as I like mine.
Markon101 said:
Hello, all it is great to be back on XDA after long not being able to do anything with my phone because Samsung locks it down so you can't touch the US variants of their phones anymore! I decided to "downgrade" to a Moto G6 and save my money and free myself from Samsungs crapware etc. My thoughts from playing with it so far are that for the price it is incredible! Fast charging is faster than my S9+, battery life is better, overall system responsiveness is very consistent, and the screen is not at all bad! This barely feels like a downgrade at all. It feels like a breath of fresh air in an over saturated market of very pricey devices. I had the original Moto G and it is still to this day the most bang for my buck device ever. It still works and still runs Android 8 even! The OnePlus One is a close contender but I really need something that works on all major US networks. Only Samsung, Apple, HTC, LG, and Motorolla were really options for me. Out of those, I thought the G6 would likely be the most tinker friendly and budget friendly. So far that seems to be holding true as development looks to be on the horizon and there are open kernel sources! Who knows maybe I will take a crack at doing a simple AOSP ROM! Cheers everyone!
P.S. Enjoy the extra money in your pockets from not buying something overpriced like the iPhone X.
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"...and the screen is not at all bad!"
Actually, I think the screen is gorgeous and looks amazing, bright and colorful without being oversaturated.
Hi, Markon101...
Wow, what a great post, and I agree with much of what you say, although I live in the UK and carrier networks are somewhat different here. Things aren't quite so locked down.
So, anyway, like yourself, I've also been away from XDA for quite a while, primarily because I'm not rich enough to afford the latest Premium Flagship devices. And over the past few years, I've been running fairly old devices, namely the (HTC built) Nexus 9 tablet and the HTC One M8 phone, both of which hail from 2014.
This hasn't been much of a problem in terms of regular day-to-day use, but to be a contributing member of XDA, it helps if you have more up to date hardware.
I remember buying my HTC One M8 phone way back in September 2014, which cost me over £500 - a fair chunk of cash for me even back then.
Today's Flagship phones are even more expensive (unless you go the contract route, but I prefer to actually own my phone outright), so when my HTC One M8's battery began to fail earlier this year (which is pretty respectable after three and a bit years of use!) ~ at the beginning of July, the phone would shut down when the battery dipped below 70% ~ well, I knew then that I needed a new phone, it couldn't be delayed any longer!
But you develop certain expectations, largely fed by what you read online and by the focus placed on them, that the only phones worth bothering with are Premium Flagship devices, such as the Samsung Galaxy S9, Google's Pixel phones, the iPhone X, etc...
...and that any phone not costing an arm and a leg (ie., anything less than around £800) is basically not worth bothering with.
And it's so easy to fall into the trap of believing that. I certainly did, which is why I delayed replacing my M8 for as long as I did, not wanting (and not really able to afford it anyway) to spend upwards of £800 to £900 on a new phone. I guess I could have found the money, but the sacrifices elsewhere in my life, as a result, would have just have been unacceptable to me.
And then I read this article...
The Moto G6 exposes the identity crisis plaguing Android's top-end...
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/moto-g6-release-date-uk-price-specs
This article 'recalibrated' my expectations and changed my perspective about a phone costing only a quarter of the price of a Flagship device ~ just £220, network unlocked.
So, I bought one. Just over a week ago now.
I transferred the SIM card from my antiquated HTC One M8 and I haven't regretted my purchase for a single minute!
The Moto G6 is a singular delight to look at, to hold and most importantly of all... to use. Smooth and responsive, great screen, fast charging, looks good - what's not to like.
You could buy nearly five of 'em for the price of an iPhone X - all I can say is that the iPhone X must be an extraordinarily and an astonishingly amazing piece of technology, but is it worth £1000? A slightly rhetorical question I know, because value, when it comes to such things, is highly subjective.
Clearly, it's worth it to some people, otherwise Apple wouldn't have sold any of 'em ~ I just couldn't personally justify such an extravagant purchase, even if I did have a spare Grand lying around somewhere!
But going back to the Moto G6 ~ it's a great phone, at a great price, and I doubt I'll ever pay much more than a couple of a hundred pounds for a smartphone ever again, which also means I won't leave it so long until I upgrade again - I mean, £220 (or thereabouts) every couple of years is something I can easily scrape together. Thick end of a £1000... well, not really.
It seems to me that something has recently changed in the smartphone world, and that good quality phones no longer require remortgaging the house! The Moto G6 is evidence of that.
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As far as custom mods for the Moto G6 are concerned (ie., root via Magisk, TWRP, Custom Kernels, Custom ROMs, etc.) and all that kind of stuff... well, I guess it will all happen at some point. It's still early days yet, the Moto G6 has only been on the market for around three months, and the dev guys who understand the intricacies of Android required for building the tools needed for these things need time to work on them.
And in any case, I generally wouldn't even bother thinking about unlocking the bootloader until I've had a device for at least six months, primarily for warranty reasons. What's the rush?
And ideally of course, you'd need some means of restoring/re-flashing the Moto G6 back to its factory state before messing around with all of that - and which I don't think there is currently.
Root is certainly nice to have, for things like AdaWay, Greenify and Titanium, but it brings problems of its own, for example when an OTA is imminent ~ it won't install over anything other than unmodified stock. Maybe Magisk has changed that ~ I haven't used Magisk myself, and I'm only familiar with Chainfires SuperSU, which I do know had to 'patch' the boot image/partition for root to work. I had to use Chainfires FlashFire to run an OTA on my rooted Nexus 9, but with Chainfire retiring from the field, I suspect that FlashFire no longer works, and probably wouldn't be supported on the G6 anyway.
Anyhow, whatever the complexities, root doesn't seem to me to be that much of a deal breaker these days. Or maybe I'm just getting old, and I can no longer be bothered with the hassle of it all anymore. I remember (cue: pipe, slippers, cardigan, grumpy old man routine)... I remember back in ICS, Jellybean and KitKat days when root was just so easy to acquire, and you could even flash an official OTA via ClockWorkMod recovery...
...well, those days are long gone, probably for the better actually, because it means Android is now considerably more secure with things like Secure Boot, DM-Verity, Selinix Enforced/Permissive and a whole load of other things I don't really fully understand (but sort of pretend to).
Android is certainly much more slicker and polished these days (anybody here remember Éclair, Froyo and Gingerbread!), with Nougat and Oreo and whatever P will eventually be called, but it doesn't seem to be quite as much fun as it used be back circa 2011-2014 or thereabouts.
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Well, having ruminated on all manner of diverse topics here, I'll conclude this ever-so-slightly rambling post by reiterating my opinion on the Moto G6, and totally agreeing with Markon101 and his post above.
It is unquestionably a delightful phone, at an equally delightful price. I'm still amazed that it only cost me a little over £200. I doubt you could even buy a half-decent TV for that kind of money.
Hope everybody else here is equally happy with their Moto G6... I know I certainly am.
Cheers everybody.
Ged.
I like the Moto G6 but S9+ is by far a better phone. Better cpu,gpu,camera,screen. S9+ feels more premium than the G6 as well. Just my opinion tho. I would never trade an S9+ for a moto G6 tho i do have the G6 as a back up phone
no kidding dude
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I like the Moto G6 but S9+ is by far a better phone. Better cpu,gpu,camera,screen. S9+ feels more premium than the G6 as well. Just my opinion tho. I would never trade an S9+ for a moto G6 tho i do have the G6 as a back up phone
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obviously the s9+ is better but is costs over 4 times more than a g6... and you can do a bit more with the motorola. im glad to see some developers have noticed it recently. **** ive had pie since july and ive been able to get like 5 different oreo gsi and three different pie gsi (descendent has a few flaws) to boot and run successfully. the best bang for the buck is the g6. honestly you sound like a fool if you have a g6 as a backup lol. you need a backup phone for a 1000 dollar s9+ ? good thing samsung is letting you get that ota for their best phone this fast because your locked bootloader and ridiculous knox security wont let you even try without cancelling your warranty and after it says void odin tells you that it has failed to flash right as the phone shorts out and tells you that it cant turn on because of moisture in the charge port(my buddy had this issue)and youre like damn, now i gotta use the G6. sorry to be so hard on ya bro but reality is harsh and you sound like a guy that needed a check.
I sort of understand what you mean like when It comes to being a developer It's simple to unlock a Moto bootloader and simple to flash stuff to em and build custom stuff for em. Compared to Samsung you need to use Odin for everything and it might not work right still. along with Samsung knox and there bootloader's being pains to unlock sometimes through unofficial means. You gotta worry about it being a exynos variant or not and there verison of android is not as much of a stock Android experience compared to moto. There's a bunch of stuff I'm sure I'm missing on why you think Moto is better lol. But I mean i have the g4 play, g6 play, and the z2 force and I bought the z2 force just so I can play games on it lol if I was you I would have just kept the s9+ and used it for the things I couldn't use my other phones for lol
I think G6 is decent for the price.
Frankly, I'd prefer IPS over AMOLED all the time.
Now Samsung is way too locked down so I quit. LG isn't that bad on open market model.
I just hope G6 has more development, and G6 plus will come to America because I prefer bigger screen.
The way to wake the phone requires some learning curve but it's not bad.
The only thing I don't like is Google Play Music. I have to close all other apps or local playback stutters.
NFC doesn't matter because I barely use it.
It works well with PD charging
USB-C digital headphones works too
Markon101 said:
Hello, all it is great to be back on XDA after long not being able to do anything with my phone because Samsung locks it down so you can't touch the US variants of their phones anymore! I decided to "downgrade" to a Moto G6 and save my money and free myself from Samsungs crapware etc. My thoughts from playing with it so far are that for the price it is incredible! Fast charging is faster than my S9+, battery life is better, overall system responsiveness is very consistent, and the screen is not at all bad! This barely feels like a downgrade at all. It feels like a breath of fresh air in an over saturated market of very pricey devices. I had the original Moto G and it is still to this day the most bang for my buck device ever. It still works and still runs Android 8 even! The OnePlus One is a close contender but I really need something that works on all major US networks. Only Samsung, Apple, HTC, LG, and Motorolla were really options for me. Out of those, I thought the G6 would likely be the most tinker friendly and budget friendly. So far that seems to be holding true as development looks to be on the horizon and there are open kernel sources! Who knows maybe I will take a crack at doing a simple AOSP ROM! Cheers everyone!
P.S. Enjoy the extra money in your pockets from not buying something overpriced like the iPhone X.
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I downgraded too from Galaxy S9 to Moto G6 Play and Moto G6 and I've never been happier. I love to tinker with my phones and was sick of Samsung locking everything up. So I'm happy now with some extra money on pocket.
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Wow how did you manage that deal? Used!? That is a great deal even from the play!
Yeah I am going to miss the camera a lot but for the price it is making me like it a lot more. Also Samsung needs to up their quick charge game. Thinking about the camera again though... For the difference in price you can get a killer used DSLR or maybe even a new one not including lenses.
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Just to let y'all know magisk has a camera port from a rog phone. Imo it's a significant upgrade. Not as good as the S9 camera of course but still.?
luvcustom said:
Just to let y'all know magisk has a camera port from a rog phone. Imo it's a significant upgrade. Not as good as the S9 camera of course but still.?
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Where?
madbat99 said:
Where?
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Install magisk then search downloads for AZUS Style Suite. Install, reboot, try it out.
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Install magisk then search downloads for AZUS Style Suite. Install, reboot, try it out.
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I found it. Not worth another magisk module messing with my stuff. Everyone should keep them to a minimum, only what's needed to keep stability and needed features. Thanks though.
i have moto g6 .. You can't compare G6 phone with S9. SAMSUNG S9 is a 2018 most selling flagship device and have a good value in market.
Anyone considering the S10 or S10+? Why or why not? They're offering a $550 trade in with Pixel 3 XL, so just more curious what people are doing and why.
I'm considering it. Not sure if I can actually pull the trigger on a Samsung device.
Try it out in the store first, I had the s4 after my Galaxy Nexus, that was unlocked and had stock Android flashed, then the s5 which was rooted, but only years after I got rid of it, they got the bootloader unlocked.
The s5 was fast, but it doesn't hold a candle to stock Android.
If you won't miss the stock sounds, UI, apps, root, etc. Then go for it, I consider most of that stuff bloat and a lot of the exclusive features would go unused by me.
My own opinion, but everyone has their own taste.
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Anyone considering the S10 or S10+? Why or why not? They're offering a $550 trade in with Pixel 3 XL, so just more curious what people are doing and why.
I'm considering it. Not sure if I can actually pull the trigger on a Samsung device.
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After the S9+, I'm done with Samsung. I always end up going back to Google devices. I had an S8+, Pixel 2 XL, S9+, and now Pixel 3 XL. Samsung just keeps making it harder and harder to modify MY PHONE, and I think that I should have the right to root, etc., when I pay for the phone outright. I enjoyed my Exynos S9+, dont get me wrong, but the Pixel is so much easier. Here in the US, you need to buy an international Samsung if you want to do anything with as far as Roms go, but then you loose functionality because the phone is not built for use in USA. There are ways to make things work, but it is tedious, and time consuming, then Samsung changes crap each time they update. Also, its to the point now that the Snapdragon processors are out performing the Exynos processors.
Phone looks pretty sick but still not enough to convince me to switch to sammy phone. Its a sammy........
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Phone looks pretty sick but still not enough to convince me to switch to sammy phone. Its a sammy........
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Been with Sammy for so many year. Please no more. Happy with them, even happier with Google.
I still look forward every time to pick up my phone, turn it on and use it,. Loving it. I dont even have a need for Pix 4. I can easily go stay with it for another year. Knowing me id get P4 tho.
But yeah no more Samsung for me. My brother is getting one tho
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do i like locked bootloaders? lmao
I have been very disappointed with my xl 3. I am getting either the s10 or LG v8
What is an S10? Until Google locks the bootloader, I wouldn't be able to tell you what other phones are out there.
I am on Pixel 3 and its been only like 2weeks now. Before this was using a S9+. Best in Pixel 3- rooting and using custom roms with hell lot of features and the bestest camera in the smartphone market now. Cons speaker and display.
Pros of S9+, the best display on a smartphone and speakers tuned by Harmon. Speakers are like the best I have heard ln a smartphone. But worst ever front camera for a flagship, it literally paints everybody in the scene.?
I'm not into locked bootloaders and phones that take 6+ months to update software. My TMo Note 8 is still waiting for official Pie o arrive. I don't care how amazing the hardware is if the software is 1/2 a year or more behind all the time.
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It’s very tempting but the updates are really slow with samsung even if it’s the international version.
I am proud of Pixel 3 getting updates first and all. Unfortunately Pie has been buggy since release and I feel like I have been beta testing the phone for them. I see Samsung's slower release as a more mature release after what Google has fixed.
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I am proud of Pixel 3 getting updates first and all. Unfortunately Pie has been buggy since release and I feel like I have been beta testing the phone for them. I see Samsung's slower release as a more mature release after what Google has fixed.
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Not sure which bugs you refer to, but my phone has run in top notch condition since day one. Good luck with your Samsung. All you have to do is look at the Note 9 forums to find million of complaints about the software. The only mature thing about their software is the release date because as per the many forums on XDA there is a ton of stuff wrong with it.
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Not sure which bugs you refer to, but my phone has run in top notch condition since day one. Good luck with your Samsung. All you have to do is look at the Note 9 forums to find million of complaints about the software. The only mature thing about their software is the release date because as per the many forums on XDA there is a ton of stuff wrong with it.
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I have posted my issues on this forum before. Such problems include:
1) lag even after the most recent update
2) I restart my phone daily and on several occasions, the phone restarts to a dead black screen instead of Android
3) the clock on the status bar is stuck, restarting the phone fixes this
4) "always on display" gets stuck
5) LTE connection is bad. Instead of dropping down to 3g, it stays on "No Data" state.
I've got both the pixel and note 9, I've also had the s8 and s9+ wasn't impressed with them but I am with the note. The screen is amazing, no notch and the pen is a huge plus. I'm leaning on keeping my note for now and getting rid of the pixel. I've got the international one so bootloader is unlocked barely any bloat. Then maybe getting the S10+
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I have posted my issues on this forum before. Such problems include:
1) lag even after the most recent update
2) I restart my phone daily and on several occasions, the phone restarts to a dead black screen instead of Android
3) the clock on the status bar is stuck, restarting the phone fixes this
4) "always on display" gets stuck
5) LTE connection is bad. Instead of dropping down to 3g, it stays on "No Data" state.
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Other than a rare lag when first opening the camera, I can honestly say I haven't had any of these issues on my phone. I guess which apps you use has a lot to do with it also, but it sounds to me like you got a bad Apple. Maybe the Note 9 is better for your use, but my Note 8 experience is crap (slow and painfully laggy). Good luck.
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I sold my P2XL & bought an S9+. They are good phones but I couldn't wait for the P3XL to come out. I'm happy with my Pixel. Everything I did with the S9+ was tweaking it to be more like a Pixel, both with looks and adding Google apps to use instead of the Samsung apps. I had duplicates of a bunch of apps. I tried to like Bixby but that was hopeless. I use the camera quite a bit, nothing like the Pixel's that I've ever used.
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I sold my P2XL & bought an S9+. They are good phones but I couldn't wait for the P3XL to come out. I'm happy with my Pixel. Everything I did with the S9+ was tweaking it to be more like a Pixel, both with looks and adding Google apps to use instead of the Samsung apps. I had duplicates of a bunch of apps. I tried to like Bixby but that was hopeless. I use the camera quite a bit, nothing like the Pixel's that I've ever used.
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I am confused. You sold your Pixel 2 and now you couldn't wait for the Pixel 3? What phone are you using now?
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I am confused. You sold your Pixel 2 and now you couldn't wait for the Pixel 3? What phone are you using now?
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That wasn't very clear. I had a P2XL, sold it and bought an S9+. I used that until the P3XL came out. I sold the Samsung and bought the new Pixel. I take good care of my phone, keep the packaging & accessories in the box. I got a pretty good price for the last few phones I sold on Swappa. It makes it easier than paying big money for a phone every year. I probably got 70% of the cost after 9 or 10 months of use.