I just had the absolute BEST customer experience at a Costco wireless kiosk. Not only was the clerk very knowledgeable and helpful, but he was also completely sympathetic to the whole rooting situation and willing to help me however he could. On the down side, he was not the one pulling the phone from inventory and had no way to tell what software version I would get, but I asked the girl who did pull the box if she'd be willing to look for a barcode that ended in OC3 or OE1 and she was cool about it. Even though she couldn't figure out how to do it, she ended up pulling an OC3 for me anyway! And when I took it back to the kiosk for activation the dude was like "yeah I'll just skip the setup wizard and let you handle that on your own since you'll be rooting it." On top of that, their deal included a $150 costco gift card, waiving the tax paid for the retail price of the phone, a free 2 amp car charger with an extra usb port, and a windshield mount!
So on to my question, I'm sitting here with a virgin OC3 phone, what should I do first? I've been sifting through the info on here for a few weeks, but much of it is compiled in an "as it was happening" kind of fashion - meaning I'm not sure if all the info provided is relative to "what we know now," if that makes sense. I just want to make sure I get the best rooting experience possible - for instance I'm not sure if I should update to OE1 and then root, or if I can even do that, or if I should just root now and forget about it? If I root OC3 (or OE1) is there a patched 5.1.1 image available out there? Anything else I should know or watch out for?
There is currently no root for 5.1.1 and there is no guarantee that there ever will be. The exploit used by PingPong Root was patched and so another exploit has to be found.
I would say, if you value root more, you're stuck on 5.0.2 and to just root it now. If you want the 5.1.1 update more, update it and use it as if root will not be found, that way you won't be disappointed.
Yup sounds good! Is there anything that OE1 brings to the table that I should consider updating for before or after rooting?
And I guess what I was asking about 5.1.1 - I remember being able to update to a more current version through Odin on my S4 - even though the actual OTA for that version patched the root methods. There was a way to get that update without losing root. So there's nothing like that for the S6 yet?
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Yup sounds good! Is there anything that OE1 brings to the table that I should consider updating for before or after rooting?
And I guess what I was asking about 5.1.1 - I remember being able to update to a more current version through Odin on my S4 - even though the actual OTA for that version patched the root methods. There was a way to get that update without losing root. So there's nothing like that for the S6 yet?
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OE2 is as far as you can go. Go ahead and root OC3 and update to OE2 by flashing a OE2 stock rooted rom if you like.
Here are a couple stock rooted roms. Most of the others you need to be on OE2 already before you can flash them.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...pment/rom-stock-rooted-g920v-oc2-ota-t3125762
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3114525
Thanks! That's exactly what I needed to know.
Hello Community!!
I have owned many androids over the years, and have recently got an S6, hoping to dive back into the game of rooting, modding and messing around until my phones works the way i want it to. There are MANY things that really Piss me off about my T-MObile variant of the S6, including the horrible battery life, bloatware, and lack of personality. I Really would love to root my device, but KNOX. OMG what is this?! If i Root, no Samsung pay? What other downsides are there to rooting? But recently, my phone installed "ANdroid Pay" SO I am thinking, I should just root, forget Samsung pay and just use Google pay or whatever they call it.
As you guys can tell from my sig, I have been very inactive on these forums. I am hoping someone can give me some advice here---
Thanks So much
EMilio
beforedenied said:
Hello Community!!
I have owned many androids over the years, and have recently got an S6, hoping to dive back into the game of rooting, modding and messing around until my phones works the way i want it to. There are MANY things that really Piss me off about my T-MObile variant of the S6, including the horrible battery life, bloatware, and lack of personality. I Really would love to root my device, but KNOX. OMG what is this?! If i Root, no Samsung pay? What other downsides are there to rooting? But recently, my phone installed "ANdroid Pay" SO I am thinking, I should just root, forget Samsung pay and just use Google pay or whatever they call it.
As you guys can tell from my sig, I have been very inactive on these forums. I am hoping someone can give me some advice here---
Thanks So much
EMilio
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There are pros and cons to root.
The first pro is limitless customizations and personalizations.
The first con is OTA updates get disabled.
Another pro is you are able to dramatically improve battery and overall performance using various apps.
Another con is your warranty will be void, assuming you tripped KNOX.
If you trip KNOX, Samsung Pay no longer works; if you have root (even without touching KNOX) Android Pay does not work.
I obtained root just to prove to myself it could be done.
Since then there have been dramatic improvements with speed and battery life.
Package Disabler Pro can freeze a lot of the bloatware without root: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro&hl=en
Hi,
It's a highly personal decision. I myself for the first time am holding on rooting - I was the one who made the most famous Xoom rooting tool and also S4 Linux Root Script, so that tells a lot. The thing is, meanwhile my device is satisfying my needs, and I'm really curious about Samsung Pay, as it has a way wider support than Android Pay and other systems.
The best thing about rooting in my opinion was the endless system customization - specially after Xposed was released. The way better data management I had, better system control and some exclusive apps that require root or works better with root. If you are really pissed about Samsung TouchWiz apps and system "features", rooting would be a nice idea. Just keep in mind that after rooting Knox will be tripped and there's no turning back with Knox. Depending on your country, Knox trip also means warranty void, because once rooted you can unroot and make it looks like nothing happened.
Just adding what was already said, but Android Pay doesn't work with root.
All the best,
~Lord
Sent from my SM-G920I using Tapatalk
XxLordxX said:
Hi,
It's a highly personal decision. I myself for the first time am holding on rooting - I was the one who made the most famous Xoom rooting tool and also S4 Linux Root Script, so that tells a lot. The thing is, meanwhile my device is satisfying my needs, and I'm really curious about Samsung Pay, as it has a way wider support than Android Pay and other systems.
The best thing about rooting in my opinion was the endless system customization - specially after Xposed was released. The way better data management I had, better system control and some exclusive apps that require root or works better with root. If you are really pissed about Samsung TouchWiz apps and system "features", rooting would be a nice idea. Just keep in mind that after rooting Knox will be tripped and there's no turning back with Knox. Depending on your country, Knox trip also means warranty void, because once rooted you can unroot and make it looks like nothing happened.
Just adding what was already said, but Android Pay doesn't work with root.
All the best,
~Lord
Sent from my SM-G920I using Tapatalk
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Rooting doesn't allways mean tripped knox. I have my G920F rooted and knox intact. This can be done even after updrade to 5.1.1 stok firmware.
An android phone for me is worthless without root permissions. I need it for:
adaway adds
iptables (firewall)
better battery life (debloat)
titanium backup
JuanRamiro said:
Rooting doesn't allways mean tripped knox. I have my G920F rooted and knox intact. This can be done even after updrade to 5.1.1 stok firmware.
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I was only aware of root that can be applied before upgrade to 5.1.1.
Can you advise how you applied root after 5.1.1? Thanks.
Iceman_jkh said:
I was only aware of root that can be applied before upgrade to 5.1.1.
Can you advise how you applied root after 5.1.1? Thanks.
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Just install de 5.0.2 engineering bootloader via ODIN. Then instal TRWP via ODIN.
After this two steps you can flash whatever you want via TRWP.
Edit: with the 5.0.2 bootloader you will loose fingerprint scanner, the rest works great, at least with the custom rom I am using.
JuanRamiro said:
Just install de 5.0.2 engineering bootloader via ODIN. Then instal TRWP via ODIN.
After this two steps you can flash whatever you want via TRWP.
Edit: with the 5.0.2 bootloader you will loose fingerprint scanner, the rest works great, at least with the custom rom I am using.
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Keep in mind this engineering bootloader does not work with all variants. For example there is no Eng Bootloader for the Canadian phones.
Thank you both. I have the international SM-G920F (technically it's the dual Sim version, SM-G920FD, (from United Arab Emirates)).
So, to confirm, would the eng boot loader still work on my device variant, and allow root without tripping KNOX?
Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
Iceman_jkh said:
Thank you both. I have the international SM-G920F (technically it's the dual Sim version, SM-G920FD, (from United Arab Emirates)).
So, to confirm, would the eng boot loader still work on my device variant, and allow root without tripping KNOX?
Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
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I have the single sim version of the G920F, so I don't know if it will work with the dual sim.
I don't think that it will strip you knox...
... and I think that if your phone doesn't work with this bootloader, you can just flash the correct one and make it work again.
But these are just guesses... you decide if you want to take the risk.
Good luck.
JuanRamiro said:
I have the single sim version of the G920F, so I don't know if it will work with the dual sim.
I don't think that it will strip you knox...
... and I think that if your phone doesn't work with this bootloader, you can just flash the correct one and make it work again.
But these are just guesses... you decide if you want to take the risk.
Good luck.
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Thanks. I did some additional research, thanks to your advice about eng boot loader, and seems like it will work ☺
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JuanRamiro said:
I have the single sim version of the G920F, so I don't know if it will work with the dual sim.
I don't think that it will strip you knox...
... and I think that if your phone doesn't work with this bootloader, you can just flash the correct one and make it work again.
But these are just guesses... you decide if you want to take the risk.
Good luck.
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Hi,
I wouldn't risk that "you can just flash the correct one and make it work again". If you know how a bootloader work, if it gets broken there is no way to get to Download Mode and flash a new firmware/bootloader.
For information sake, a bootloader is a piece of software that is the first thing loaded when you boot your device, it comes before anything, be it kernel, be it recovery or anything else, that means, if you have a broken bootloader, the moment you try to boot your device up, it will try loading BL and it will fail, so it will shut down back again. I've had a broken BL once before on S4, the only way to recover was a direct flash of software in system chip using a tool called JTAG.
So, all I can say to users who still didn't get it: beware with this. It seems that many people are getting successful results, but it's an extremely risk procedure, make sure you read every single instruction and follow it, the possibility of a hard brick is high.
Even still, it's a great find, thanks for sharing with me, I didn't know of this until early today .
All the best,
~Lord
I wonder whether Samsung pay will work again after reflash stock rom after root? Is it like knox, once rooted you will never have it no mater what you do including going back to pure stock?
XxLordxX said:
Depending on your country, Knox trip also means warranty void, because once rooted you can unroot and make it looks like nothing happened.
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Did you mean, once rooted we can unroot and install the stock firmware and hence tripped Knox will be restored as well?
Or the unrooting will only help to restore the stock but the knox will continue to remain tripped. I would like to know this as I am considering purchasing S6. The last samsung phone I owned was S2 and used that for 3 full years with out any problems.
Thanks.
coolmalayalee said:
Did you mean, once rooted we can unroot and install the stock firmware and hence tripped Knox will be restored as well?
Or the unrooting will only help to restore the stock but the knox will continue to remain tripped. I would like to know this as I am considering purchasing S6. The last samsung phone I owned was S2 and used that for 3 full years with out any problems.
Thanks.
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Once Knox is tripped its tripped but, yes you can flash original firmware and as long as you factory reset it, it will be unrooted and ready for official updates.
jetbruceli said:
Once Knox is tripped its tripped but, yes you can flash original firmware and as long as you factory reset it, it will be unrooted and ready for official updates.
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Thanks. But can you be a bit more specific of if the unrooting, flashing stock, and factory resting will finally untrip the tripped Knox as well? My question in the event I need to take this back to a service center to claim warranty for whatever reason, is there any way for them to know that I have voided warranty if I unroot, flash back the stock and factory reset?
coolmalayalee said:
Thanks. But can you be a bit more specific of if the unrooting, flashing stock, and factory resting will finally untrip the tripped Knox as well? My question in the event I need to take this back to a service center to claim warranty for whatever reason, is there any way for them to know that I have voided warranty if I unroot, flash back the stock and factory reset?
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Once tripped there is no going back. Voided warranty depends on laws of your country and your retailers policy.
coolmalayalee said:
Thanks. But can you be a bit more specific of if the unrooting, flashing stock, and factory resting will finally untrip the tripped Knox as well? My question in the event I need to take this back to a service center to claim warranty for whatever reason, is there any way for them to know that I have voided warranty if I unroot, flash back the stock and factory reset?
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YOU CAN NOT UNTRIP KNOX, you can reflash your firmware from Sammobile, http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SM-G920F/
use odin and then after you flash, go into recovery or use system settings and conduct a factory reset. It will say Official in the status but, since they will reflash your rom anyways, they will see the knox trip.
It depends on where you purschased your device whether or not they will warranty it with Knox tripped.
Honestly, anyone who roots should understand this information before hand. You should always know how to return to stock unroot.
Jameslwoodward said:
I wonder whether Samsung pay will work again after reflash stock rom after root? Is it like knox, once rooted you will never have it no mater what you do including going back to pure stock?
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After rooting my 5.1.1 without tripping Knox, with the 5.0.2 engineering bootloader (as as described a few posts ago) I have flashed a stok rom with odin and then everything went back as it was before the rooting procedure.
1. I was on stok oficial rom with oficial bootloader.
2. I lost root.
3. Knox was still intact: 0.
4. Fingerprint scanner and MyKnox worked again.
So: after upgrade to 5.1.1, rooting with the 5.0.2 engineering bootloader seems to be safe and also easy to bo back to stock... at least for my model (G920F)
As title said I have the flat SM-G930U because I love being able to switch provider, and so far I'm ok with the phone, but I really do miss my root. I was ecstatic when I saw that root was achieved and bought my unlocked S7 off swappa.
Long story short, every time I try to install the flat G930A eng-boot tar to my G930U through the modded Odin, the phone "WILL" force restart itself soon after booting into the main screen, or even when I leave the screen off. This process is reproducible every time from a stock restored G930U image.
So far I've had to resort to restoring to a stock image to fix the problem so I cannot get to the rooting part yet. Is there any other better method out there? I hate to have to back up and restore my data through cumbersome means like Samsung Switch or Helium.
If you have this G930U model as well, can you share your experience with the rooting process, and/or the experience with the phone so far with root installed?
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As title said I have the flat SM-G930U because I love being able to switch provider, and so far I'm ok with the phone, but I really do miss my root. I was ecstatic when I saw that root was achieved and bought my unlocked S7 off swappa.
Long story short, every time I try to install the flat G930A eng-boot tar to my G930U through the modded Odin, the phone "WILL" force restart itself soon after booting into the main screen, or even when I leave the screen off. This process is reproducible every time from a stock restored G930U image.
So far I've had to resort to restoring to a stock image to fix the problem so I cannot get to the rooting part yet. Is there any other better method out there? I hate to have to back up and restore my data through cumbersome means like Samsung Switch or Helium.
If you have this G930U model as well, can you share your experience with the rooting process, and/or the experience with the phone so far with root installed?
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I think that nobody has yet rooted it, since it just recently came out. The reason why it doesn't work for you, is that the engboot is meant for another model. You'll just have to wait, until the engboot is also released for your model.
I have the exact same problem. SM-G930U reboot loop after loading the engboot. I would love to root this phone if someone can release or locate a compatible bootloader!
Actually, it has been almost a year now. Surely a bootloader for this device is available now? I cannot find it though.
ecm77 said:
I have the exact same problem. SM-G930U reboot loop after loading the engboot. I would love to root this phone if someone can release or locate a compatible bootloader!
Actually, it has been almost a year now. Surely a bootloader for this device is available now? I cannot find it though.
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Hi
Ask in the right forum , this is for the exynos version your is snapdragon
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ve...-to-notes-root-install-xposed-unroot-t3411039
MAX 404 said:
Hi
Ask in the right forum , this is for the exynos version your is snapdragon
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ve...-to-notes-root-install-xposed-unroot-t3411039
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Cool, did not catch that.
Hi all,
I want a rooted phone but my last two phones (LG Stylo 2 and Samsung J727V) seem to be unrootable despite research and no lack of trying. I'm currently trying to root an older phone but there's no root for it with its current firmware and firmware rollback isn't working. It feels like someone in the mix (carrier/manufacturer/OS developer) is invested in making rooting as hard as possible. I really just want to go ahead and get a phone that is easily rootable on a carrier that allows it. Is there a good rule of thumb like, "look, go sign up with this carrier and get this phone today and come back to XDA?"
Thanks!
IglooJohnson said:
Hi all,
I want a rooted phone but my last two phones (LG Stylo 2 and Samsung J727V) seem to be unrootable despite research and no lack of trying. I'm currently trying to root an older phone but there's no root for it with its current firmware and firmware rollback isn't working. It feels like someone in the mix (carrier/manufacturer/OS developer) is invested in making rooting as hard as possible. I really just want to go ahead and get a phone that is easily rootable on a carrier that allows it. Is there a good rule of thumb like, "look, go sign up with this carrier and get this phone today and come back to XDA?"
Thanks!
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have you try kingroot? kingroot only will add a admin account. it won't change the stock Rom of your device. if it works for your device this is the fastest way to do it. without pc. just a apk file
IglooJohnson said:
Hi all,
I want a rooted phone but my last two phones (LG Stylo 2 and Samsung J727V) seem to be unrootable despite research and no lack of trying. I'm currently trying to root an older phone but there's no root for it with its current firmware and firmware rollback isn't working. It feels like someone in the mix (carrier/manufacturer/OS developer) is invested in making rooting as hard as possible. I really just want to go ahead and get a phone that is easily rootable on a carrier that allows it. Is there a good rule of thumb like, "look, go sign up with this carrier and get this phone today and come back to XDA?"
Thanks!
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Did you unlock your bootloader?