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Thinking of buying a sprint v50. Will unlocked sprint version work on tmobile?
intruda119 said:
Thinking of buying a sprint v50. Will unlocked sprint version work on tmobile?
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I suggest you to go for the Korean model if it's not working. Just make sure to check lte bands for compatibility.
Inerent said:
I suggest you to go for the Korean model if it's not working. Just make sure to check lte bands for compatibility.
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Have a chance to get a good deal on a unlocked sprint version.
Then go for it. But be sure to be Sim unlocked and lte bands accepted. The Korean sells for 800$ on eBay. Also can be flashed with European firmware and supports secondary screen. Imo has better quality also software aside. Noticed with LG G7... If you got better deal then go for it.
Are you sure it's unlocked and if so, how was it unlocked? I have a Sprint model and I'm having to wait ‘til my 50 service days are up to get Sprint to unlock it. I've contacted some pretty good unlocking services and hearing the same thing from all; As of now only Sprint can unlock it.
As we all know Sprint 5G service area (like all others) is very small but they're still charging everyone who activates this phone on their service for a 5G service plan regardless of whether they have 5G service in your area or not. I got a great deal on a 3rd party phone but it was locked which I knew going in. As soon as it's unlocked, I'm going to try GFI. BTW, it's a great phone.
Inerent said:
Then go for it. But be sure to be Sim unlocked and lte bands accepted. The Korean sells for 800$ on eBay. Also can be flashed with European firmware and supports secondary screen. Imo has better quality also software aside. Noticed with LG G7... If you got better deal then go for it.
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Sadly lg value goes down extremely fast. I personally wouldnt spend anywhere close to retail with lg phones.
hooutoo said:
Are you sure it's unlocked and if so, how was it unlocked? I have a Sprint model and I'm having to wait ‘til my 50 service days are up to get Sprint to unlock it. I've contacted some pretty good unlocking services and hearing the same thing from all; As of now only Sprint can unlock it.
As we all know Sprint 5G service area (like all others) is very small but they're still charging everyone who activates this phone on their service for a 5G service plan regardless of whether they have 5G service in your area or not. I got a great deal on a 3rd party phone but it was locked which I knew going in. As soon as it's unlocked, I'm going to try GFI. BTW, it's a great phone.
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Wont be sure until I put my sim card in but it owner says sim unlocked. No interest in 5g anytime soon. If possible will disable/limit to lte.
One thing's for sure.... LG phones drop like a rock! I couldn't wait but I’m thinking in two months this phone's (sprint model) probably going to be selling for $400. Imo the only thing holding the price up for now is there just aren't very many out in the wild. Kind of strange really, since according to the Ifixit breakdown, it has the same Qualcomm 5G X50 modem as both the Galaxy S10 5G phone and the new Note 5G. Otherwise the specs are very similar. I guess it’s all perceived value.
Just in from Sprint tech support;
Hello,
Letting you know your LG V450PM BLK XCVR SGL on line 954-xxx-xxxx
cannot be unlocked because it hasn't been active for more than 50 days.
Go to sprint.com/chat or call *2 for help.
Sincerely,
Shaun K.
Sprint
t-mobile
hooutoo said:
Just in from Sprint tech support;
Hello,
Letting you know your LG V450PM BLK XCVR SGL on line 954-xxx-xxxx
cannot be unlocked because it hasn't been active for more than 50 days.
Go to sprint.com/chat or call *2 for help.
Sincerely,
Shaun K.
Sprint
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so has anyone activated on t-mobile?
bobn27613 said:
so has anyone activated on t-mobile?
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My 50 days on Sprint are up in about a week. I'm moving back to Google Fi as soon as I unlock. Of course, Fi uses both Tmob & Sprint networks so I'm fairly sure is will work on one or the other.
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so has anyone activated on t-mobile?
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Im active on metropcs by tmobile.
Everything working fine but i keep getting an activate now popup that is really really annoying
LM-V450PM
Yeah, LG phones drop like a rock.
Some vendor on eBay was selling the Korean V50 with dual screen for $529......yeah.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-V50-Thi...972866&hash=item1f015f8485:g:k9wAAOSw4kZdX2mi
I am just waiting for these to drop even more if that. Doubt the 5G works in other markets.
were you able to use wifi calling ? were you able to eliminate the 'activate' message. Thanks
Finally Sim unlocked and ported over to Simple Mobile, a Tmob Mvno. It was relatively painless and took less than an hour for the actual port. No reason to be on Sprint right now if you don't have 5G service in your area. I was on the phone with Sprint yesterday for at least an hour and a half and gave them every chance to do something about my bill. I asked them point blank why anyone would pay for 5G service when it's not even in their area? Their response was just lame. I'm guessing it will be at least one if not two years before 5G is working in a wide spread fashion in a lot of cities in the US.
Now, as for the service on Tmob's network, it's only been about a hour since I switched but have made couple of phone calls and run a couple of speed tests. Phone call quality seems same same and speed test speeds seemed the same as if I were on Tmob., 15 down and about 7-10 on the upload. Now the freaking really good news. Simple mobile is running a special for 3GBs data and unlimited talk, unlimited text. at $25 per month. If you do auto pay after taxes it's $22 and change.
are all t mobile bands available? Does it work with t mobile 5G?
As of right now, there seems to be a problem with the APN record on the sprint model. Sprint, the scumbag company that it is, has locked the APN. They'll unlock the phone to except other sim cards, no problem. But when your new provider tries to register your phone on their network it doesn't fully complete the process. In other words, part of the process is that a new APN record is pushed down to the phone identifying the new MMS DNS server for that network. I use Simple Mobile which is a MVNO of Tmob but Sprint has locked the APN on my V50. I;m still able to get data but can't send/receive pictures via text messages.
So be ware.
en11gma said:
Im active on metropcs by tmobile.
Everything working fine but i keep getting an activate now popup that is really really annoying
LM-V450PM
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does wifi calling work? how are updates handled . thank you
We have a pair of sprint unlocked V50 and just got an update over the metropcs service.
In the service menu it says voice over wifi is provisioned but in the settings network voice over wifi is off and the switch wont stay to on position when i toggle to on.
I still see my cellular connection in the notification area disappear then reappear.
Is this normal behavior or is it trying to activate in background? Maybe it checking for 5G?
I think it using more batt then usual possibly
Now....... finally, some good news and this took a bit of doing. To start off with I originally tried an old Fi sim card I had to port out of Sprint after those scumbags unlocked my V50. I kept getting a T077 error during the Google Fi activation process and Fi support just kept telling me that the V50 wasn't a supported device and they couldn’t help. I told them I thought it was a bad sim card so they suggest I pick up a new one at Best Buy. So, after a trip down to Best Buy I found out that they rarely have Fi cards in stock so I picked up a Simple Mobile (tmob mvno) sim for a buck and the port/activation sort of worked in that I successfully ported my number from Sprint and I was able to make calls and get data but couldn't receive/send pictures (MMS) in text. So, I said screw it and order another Fi Sim card thru the Google site and waited a week. I got it yesterday late and tried it this morning and crap it didn't work with the same activation error, T077. I have been scouring the internet for days for any info the error code and somewhere along the way I remember seeing something about taking the mvno card out and then putting the Fi card in and trying to activate without rebooting the phone. Now remember this is really all about not being able to edit the APN record with the correct DNS info so you can receive MMS picture by text. Anyway, after slipping in the FI sim card to my V50 the activation process suddenly squeaked on thru and low and behold I'm now running on Google Fi with MMS working and APN record is correctly updated the Fi info. I think the reason it worked was that the activation process thought I was a Tmob customer. When it asked me for account info to port my existing number to GFI the dialog screen show things like.... Enter your T-Mobile account number and asked what was the name on my T-Mobile account. But for whatever reason it worked and now I'm finally free of Sprint.
It worked for me but your mileage may very.
hooutoo said:
Now....... finally, some good news and this took a bit of doing. To start off with I originally tried an old Fi sim card I had to port out of Sprint after those scumbags unlocked my V50. I kept getting a T077 error during the Google Fi activation process and Fi support just kept telling me that the V50 wasn't a supported device and they couldn’t help. I told them I thought it was a bad sim card so they suggest I pick up a new one at Best Buy. So, after a trip down to Best Buy I found out that they rarely have Fi cards in stock so I picked up a Simple Mobile (tmob mvno) sim for a buck and the port/activation sort of worked in that I successfully ported my number from Sprint and I was able to make calls and get data but couldn't receive/send pictures (MMS) in text. So, I said screw it and order another Fi Sim card thru the Google site and waited a week. I got it yesterday late and tried it this morning and crap it didn't work with the same activation error, T077. I have been scouring the internet for days for any info the error code and somewhere along the way I remember seeing something about taking the mvno card out and then putting the Fi card in and trying to activate without rebooting the phone. Now remember this is really all about not being able to edit the APN record with the correct DNS info so you can receive MMS picture by text. Anyway, after slipping in the FI sim card to my V50 the activation process suddenly squeaked on thru and low and behold I'm now running on Google Fi with MMS working and APN record is correctly updated the Fi info. I think the reason it worked was that the activation process thought I was a Tmob customer. When it asked me for account info to port my existing number to GFI the dialog screen show things like.... Enter your T-Mobile account number and asked what was the name on my T-Mobile account. But for whatever reason it worked and now I'm finally free of Sprint.
It worked for me but your mileage may very.
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What sms app do you use? Lg or Google? Cuz with Google messaging I have fully enabled RCS. Sending pics and videos over data and wifi. Why bother with mms when RCS technology is way better?
Hey all, considering getting a new phone, and this one seems like a beast. Currently have a pixel 2XL. On Verizon.
given that there aren't many choices for an unlocked bootloader on Verizon, how is this one running? Call quality okay? Any problems with the CDMA data? with all those things in mind, any advice on what model or what source I should use to purchase the phone? Thanks.
Running fine, the unlocked version works on all the carriers, popped a sprint Sim and it worked for 30 seconds before Sim locked up unforantly no support on sprint unless one plus 7 pro 5g. T-mobile was terrible what ever reason, full bars 1mb speeds or call couldn't be placed. Best place to buy is direct oneplus.com
Yes it does. Got mine from OnePlus website. But Id recommend looking into how to tweak the sim cards settings to work better on verizon. Once I did that, ive been getting way faster network speeds. If you need help doing that let me know
id love to know about the sim settings. im on verizon... phone works better than i thought it would. I expected more areas with poor to no reception... instead i basically get the same coverage i did with my s10, but if i can make it better, i sure want to.
thanks
spencbain said:
Yes it does. Got mine from OnePlus website. But Id recommend looking into how to tweak the sim cards settings to work better on verizon. Once I did that, ive been getting way faster network speeds. If you need help doing that let me know
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Likewise I would love to hear the tweaks for Verizon.
There is no cdma data. I've not missed it much except in the forests of Oregon. Turning on roaming got me service though on the extended network.
WiFi calling and Verizon video chat doesn't work.
Other than the pixel, about the only other choice on Verizon would be an unbranded Moto.
Hi!
Hey any functionality lost by using the unlocked version on T-Mobile ?
Thanks
When speaking to Samsung about this, they told me all T-Mobile bands are supported including 5G on the unlocked versions. What you may lose is video calling (who cares) and possibly wifi calling. But in the past I've seen threads were talking to higher-level techs at T-Mobile can enable those features.
I noticed Samsung checkout page didn't ask if you need a SIM for the unlocked phone. In the past it would give you an option. So curious if you will need to go to the store for a SIM.
Thanks . Video calling is big with me . Rats
My Note 9 was unlocked from Samsung but video calling and Wi-Fi calling work fine. Not sure about this phone though.
Won't you just be able to flash the T-Mobile firmware via Odin if you get the unlocked? Then you get the best of both worlds. This is what I did with my Note10+. Got the Unlocked from Samsung then used Odin to get the official T-mobile firmware.
BigMosley said:
Won't you just be able to flash the T-Mobile firmware via Odin if you get the unlocked? Then you get the best of both worlds. This is what I did with my Note10+. Got the Unlocked from Samsung then used Odin to get the official T-mobile firmware.
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Same here
i had an unlocked note 10 + on tmo and had no issues with video calls or wifi calling. i got from the samsung site that the note 20 has an esim which i would guess is why you dont see any wording for a conventional sim...
marctronixx said:
i had an unlocked note 10 + on tmo and had no issues with video calls or wifi calling. i got from the samsung site that the note 20 has an esim which i would guess is why you dont see any wording for a conventional sim...
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I currently use an unlocked note 10+ on tmo that isn't flashed. The only limitation is that I cannot do tmo-to-tmo video calling. It may simply be a setting on my end but I never looked into it as there are so many options. Everything else works fine and I seem to get every update at the same time.
Dewda said:
I currently use an unlocked note 10+ on tmo that isn't flashed. The only limitation is that I cannot do tmo-to-tmo video calling. It may simply be a setting on my end but I never looked into it as there are so many options. Everything else works fine and I seem to get every update at the same time.
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To fix that issue you can flash TMobile rom onto the unlocked version.
jship said:
To fix that issue you can flash TMobile rom onto the unlocked version.
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Thanks. I haven't flashed a rom before but there's lots of info available. If I don't upgrade to the Note 20 then I will flash the TMobile rom onto the Note 10+. If I do upgrade I will eventually flash the Note 20.
TMO user with S20 Ultra here. Don't use video calling so I could not say. Wifi calling works.
Third party VVM apps do NOT work and TMO's downloadable visual voice mail app is garbage IMHO.
When I put my VZW sim in the same phone the Samsung VVM app works beautifully.
Unlocked S20 Ultra 512GB here.
"5G" works on TMO where there is coverage however the speed tests show LTE as connection type. Interestingly enough some of the speed tests actually show 5G. Not sure what's going on with that. Have reached over 200Mbps down on TMO "5G" a few times. Most of the time it's the same speed as LTE. Don't care, it works, hot spot works nice too.
If you were to (properly) flash TMO firmware (in theory) it SHOULD make your phone just like a TMO bought phone including the cheesy jingle when booting up. Never tried it, I like the slim as possible approach. Plus the ability to drop in a VZW sim and it just works IS a MUST for me.
knuschit said:
When speaking to Samsung about this, they told me all T-Mobile bands are supported including 5G on the unlocked versions. What you may lose is video calling (who cares) and possibly wifi calling. But in the past I've seen threads were talking to higher-level techs at T-Mobile can enable those features.
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You don't lose wifi calling or video calling using unlocked on TMO.
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bkeaver said:
You don't lose wifi calling or video calling using unlocked on TMO.
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What if anything do we loose?
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What if anything do we loose?
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I've been using unlocked devices on TMO for the past few years and everything works. I've not found anything that don't..
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tmobile visual voicemail has always worked for me on my samsung purchased unlocked 10+, so i guess our expectations are different.
Can't wait to see if I run into any issues with my unlocked on Sprint/Tmo
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tmobile visual voicemail has always worked for me on my samsung purchased unlocked 10+, so i guess our expectations are different.
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Only if you use TMO's downloaded app which is utter $4!+ IMHO.
I hate it so much I just dial in to listen the old fashioned way. I screen calls anyhow so the ONLY time it rings I know who is calling so not really a big deal. If callers don't have the secret PIN they get hung up on! F robos!
What about roaming on T Mobile partner network? Will I get a network on my UNLOCKED Galaxy Note 20 Ultra if I am roaming on US Cellular or any TMobile partner Network?
Will my Unlocked Galaxy Note 20 Ultra support all 5G bands from TMobile? (Low, Mid and High ) Layer Cake so to say.
What about SA 5G (Stand Alone 5G) that TMobile just launched. Will the Unlocked Galaxy Note 20 Ultra support it?
Sprint frequencies
I'm mostly concerned about the Sprint frequencies T-Mobile is picking up.
Current Note8 user on ATT (phone locked to carrier). I pre-ordered a Note20 Ultra from Samsung direct, unlocked version. Have been off XDA really for a couple years and not rooting/modding much lately but have read that ATT will not allow unlocked phones on their network to use WiFi Calling and/or VoLTE. If true, are there workaround options for me (assuming I stick w ATT as the carrier I mean) to get these to work, or should I cancel the unlocked model and order the ATT version? Was hoping to root eventually and remove bloatware / play w custom ROMs again on the Ultra etc etc. - that is why I ordered an unlocked version.
Thanks gents for the guidance here! Best forum around for us phone geeks
If it will be like Note 9 or 10 plus just have to flash the U version csc with odin and it will give you wifi calling advanced..messaging..volte
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butchieboy said:
If it will be like Note 9 or 10 plus just have to flash the U version csc with odin and it will give you wifi calling advanced..messaging..volte
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Much thanks - I will do this then when it arrives.
Did not work for me on the unlocked note 10+. Worked right away on the tmobile.
Att was actually fun to have. Nothing that att expected worked on the unlocked device. For example I had unlimited hotspot, despite it was not included in my att plan.
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Did not work for me on the unlocked note 10+. Worked right away on the tmobile.
Att was actually fun to have. Nothing that att expected worked on the unlocked device. For example I had unlimited hotspot, despite it was not included in my att plan.
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That's bizarre. I am rethinking this unlocked route. I must have wifi calling since signal at the house is terrible in my area. I don't need the drama of uncertainty if this will work or not. Might as well cancel the unlocked one and just upgrade via att. Oy. Wtf is with att these days? They lost my directv account last year and now their wireless policies are looking like a royal pita.
I don't think you have to worry .... ATT seems to consistently allow Samsung unlocked devices to have carrier functions
You just have to flash the U CSC as mentioned above. Worked for me on Note 10 and is currently working on a s20 ultra device
Jcrompton
Whats going on buddy. You jumping on the Ultra?
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I strongly recommend switching your order to the ATT model. I got my note 10+ unlocked based off the suggestions found here saying that flashing the att firmware would give me all the features, and I've been through a year of headaches.
For a little wile i was able to enjoy wifi calling, voicemail and VOLTE, but after my first software update the features were lost. i was able to get them back briefly by putting my sim back in an old Att phone and keeping it for a day or two, but that trick never lasted past a week. I've tried re-flashing the software, switching back to unlocked and then back to ATT, basically anything i could think of and it never worked.
calling ATT didn't help either, as the reps gave me a canned line about not supporting outside phones. the whole reason I'm updating to the 20 ultra is to just get my phone fully functional with an ATT model
Darthshadow666 said:
I strongly recommend switching your order to the ATT model. I got my note 10+ unlocked based off the suggestions found here saying that flashing the att firmware would give me all the features, and I've been through a year of headaches.
For a little wile i was able to enjoy wifi calling, voicemail and VOLTE, but after my first software update the features were lost. i was able to get them back briefly by putting my sim back in an old Att phone and keeping it for a day or two, but that trick never lasted past a week. I've tried re-flashing the software, switching back to unlocked and then back to ATT, basically anything i could think of and it never worked.
calling ATT didn't help either, as the reps gave me a canned line about not supporting outside phones. the whole reason I'm updating to the 20 ultra is to just get my phone fully functional with an ATT model
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Thanks darth. Yeah, I switched to the att version. Hate the hidden tracking bloatware etc that comes with it but must have a very workable phone for daily work calls and wifi calling is a must. No drama is my motto these days. Thank you for reporting your experience.
I had the same situation with my unlocked Pixel 4 XL, keep calling ATT until I got the right person to modify my sim to allow WiFi Calling to work, that's my plan when I get my unlocked 20 Ultra.
I'm not a gent, but I doI have the Note 20 Ultra in for review and am using it with an AT&T SIM. VoLTE works, no option for WiFi calling.
jaxf250 said:
Current Note8 user on ATT (phone locked to carrier). I pre-ordered a Note20 Ultra from Samsung direct, unlocked version. Have been off XDA really for a couple years and not rooting/modding much lately but have read that ATT will not allow unlocked phones on their network to use WiFi Calling and/or VoLTE. If true, are there workaround options for me (assuming I stick w ATT as the carrier I mean) to get these to work, or should I cancel the unlocked model and order the ATT version? Was hoping to root eventually and remove bloatware / play w custom ROMs again on the Ultra etc etc. - that is why I ordered an unlocked version.
Thanks gents for the guidance here! Best forum around for us phone geeks
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What worries me is the 5G. Will unlocked work for ATT 5G?
It does on my unlocked Galaxy S20+ 5G. The Note 20 Ultra is a ways to release and their system doesn't yet correctly identify the IMEI, so I can't say for sure what will happen after release day.
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What worries me is the 5G. Will unlocked work for ATT 5G?
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pdagal said:
I'm not a gent, but I doI have the Note 20 Ultra in for review and am using it with an AT&T SIM. VoLTE works, no option for WiFi calling.
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Hi Lisa,
Your reviews are the best, so thank you first of all. Can you check if it has any eSIM capabilities? Supposedly S20 was going to get an update to allow eSIM use in US but that never happened...
Thanks . I'm not seeing anything under connection settings on our US unlocked Note 20 Ultra (there's no IMEI listed or cellular network option listed under connection settings when no nano SIM is installed. EsimClient is running on the phone, which makes me think the hardware must be there. EsimClient is not running on my GS 20+ unlocked.
VICosPhi said:
Hi Lisa,
Your reviews are the best, so thank you first of all. Can you check if it has any eSIM capabilities? Supposedly S20 was going to get an update to allow eSIM use in US but that never happened...
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Thanks . I'm not seeing anything under connection settings on our US unlocked Note 20 Ultra (there's no IMEI listed or cellular network option listed under connection settings when no nano SIM is installed. EsimClient is running on the phone, which makes me think the hardware must be there. EsimClient is not running on my GS 20+ unlocked.
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Great, thank you for checking and comparing with S20+ !
eSIMClient running gives me hope that we will get eSIM support in an update...Still perplexed how or why Samsung has gone out of the way to disable eSIM on US variants when Apple, Google support it.
pdagal said:
I'm not a gent, but I doI have the Note 20 Ultra in for review and am using it with an AT&T SIM. VoLTE works, no option for WiFi calling.
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Ha! Thanks Lisa (love your tech vids!!) - I switched to the ATT version. Supposed to be here 8/21. I can't take a chance with wifi calling being borked, or that just that I may need to Odin-flash updates or CSC packs periodically to keep up with the monthly patches (ie force an unlocked unit to keep working on ATT's network if my previous firmware gets overwritten etc. I mean). I guess as I got older I went from a tech pioneer and adopter to just an end user LOL.... I just need it to work. Maybe I can do that package remove thingy and chop the bloatware periodically... we shall see once the community gets these units and starts their dev magic for us.
I guess I will need to make an appt at the local ATT store in a week to get on a new 5G plan from my current 4G one to take advantage of the coming speeds.
You're welcome- glad you enjoy our vids! With AT&T, you can simply change your plan online, no need to visit a store. The mid and high tier unlimited plans include 5G.
jaxf250 said:
Ha! Thanks Lisa (love your tech vids!!) - I switched to the ATT version. Supposed to be here 8/21. I can't take a chance with wifi calling being borked, or that just that I may need to Odin-flash updates or CSC packs periodically to keep up with the monthly patches (ie force an unlocked unit to keep working on ATT's network if my previous firmware gets overwritten etc. I mean). I guess as I got older I went from a tech pioneer and adopter to just an end user LOL.... I just need it to work. Maybe I can do that package remove thingy and chop the bloatware periodically... we shall see once the community gets these units and starts their dev magic for us.
I guess I will need to make an appt at the local ATT store in a week to get on a new 5G plan from my current 4G one to take advantage of the coming speeds.
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I flashed my unlocked Note 10 plus and didnt get wifi calling, visual voicemail, VOLTE.....only reason I am up grading is to get an ATT version, and to skip all the hassle of an unlocked version. Never again.
pdagal said:
I'm not a gent, but I doI have the Note 20 Ultra in for review and am using it with an AT&T SIM. VoLTE works, no option for WiFi calling.
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Could you tell me more. I have the US unlocked note 20 ultra, I put an AT&T sim in (from my note 9 unlocked) and I can't find an option to turn on wifi calling. I pretty much gave up on feature like this, because I would rather have the unlocked phone, but if it works now maybe I am missing something.
Thanks
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Are there any differences (Hardware like LTE, 5G Band differences or software differences) between AT&T and US Unlocked versions?
Hardware should be no difference. Radio bands should be the same. Software is different. The unlocked comes without carrier bloatware.
That is correct. The software is the only difference. I had the Samsung Note 10+ unlocked on AT&T. I couldn't get WiFi call or HD voice. This time I went the Note 20 Ultra AT&T version. Not a big deal. I just remove the bloatware from the phone using ADB. You can find articles on how to do it.
Weird that I was told by VZW that I couldn't wifi call on the unlocked version. But I can.
I had the U1 version on ATT. Worked great. Some menus missing, such as ability to choose VOLTE butncall quality was great. Has to call ATT to change to a 5g plan for 5g.
By the unlocked version, are you referring to the SM-N986B/DS? I am researching as well and I am on the AT&T network.
Edit: my bad misread title.
I had a U1 N10+ and as someone else mentioned, no wifi calling or HD Voice (VOLTE). Even flashing the U firmware. ATT typically has to Whitelist your phone to unlock those features. Running the U would unlock Video Calling (useless unless the other person is also on ATT) and Advanced Messaging (also an ATT only service). The day I got my N20Ultra, I popped my ATT activated sim, and no VOLTE / HD voice, and no wifi calling. Being on U1, the rest of the features weren't available (video calling, advanced messaging, vvm) which isn't surprising since it's debranded.
In another thread, it showed that Factory Unlocked N20Ultra will have HD Voice hut NOT wifi calling. That's fairly new, so YMMV. Saw the post earlier this week. Not sure it's it's live already or in the works. Some phones had support for WiFi calling and HD Voice, but the N20 series were showing only HD Voice at time of article.
I've since dumped att for Metro (Tmobile) for a few reasons, but primarily their reluctance for fully support a factory unlocked device. They are making a step in the right direction, but honestly, VOLTE and WiFi Calling should be standard features supported. Like why wouldn't you want me to call on wifi instead of clogging the wireless towers? Both work OOTB with Tmobile.
Edit: If you have no plans to switch carriers, I'd get it through att. Even if you run U1 for now, you can change your mind later and know all the features will work on U. If you buy factory unlocked, and need WiFi calling, there's no guarantee it'll work even if you load U firmware. In the past, the device has to have the IMEI specifically whitelisted on their end.
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I had a U1 N10+ and as someone else mentioned, no wifi calling or HD Voice (VOLTE). Even flashing the U firmware. ATT typically has to Whitelist your phone to unlock those features. Running the U would unlock Video Calling (useless unless the other person is also on ATT) and Advanced Messaging (also an ATT only service). The day I got my N20Ultra, I popped my ATT activated sim, and no VOLTE / HD voice, and no wifi calling. Being on U1, the rest of the features weren't available (video calling, advanced messaging, vvm) which isn't surprising since it's debranded.
In another thread, it showed that Factory Unlocked N20Ultra will have HD Voice hut NOT wifi calling. That's fairly new, so YMMV. Saw the post earlier this week. Not sure it's it's live already or in the works. Some phones had support for WiFi calling and HD Voice, but the N20 series were showing only HD Voice at time of article.
I've since dumped att for Metro (Tmobile) for a few reasons, but primarily their reluctance for fully support a factory unlocked device. They are making a step in the right direction, but honestly, VOLTE and WiFi Calling should be standard features supported. Like why wouldn't you want me to call on wifi instead of clogging the wireless towers? Both work OOTB with Tmobile.
Edit: If you have no plans to switch carriers, I'd get it through att. Even if you run U1 for now, you can change your mind later and know all the features will work on U. If you buy factory unlocked, and need WiFi calling, there's no guarantee it'll work even if you load U firmware. In the past, the device has to have the IMEI specifically whitelisted on their end.
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I spoke to AT&T for hours and they whitelisted my international Note20 Ultra IMEI. I still don't have Wi-Fi calling and they absolutely don't know why... I regret switching from T-Mobile to AT&T... but unfortunately have to stay with AT&T for 2 more years because of iPhone deals we got...
Guys, all you have to do is flash the U Home CSC for and you'll have all the features on ATT and still have U1 firmware on your U1 device. At least for me on this phone and two previous, the Samsung devices were already "whitelisted" with ATT
Can a US CSC be flashed to another snapdragon model, namely 9860?
ekerbuddyeker said:
Can a US CSC be flashed to another snapdragon model, namely 9860?
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My guess is no .... But not sure
So if I have a at&t version and flash the u1 firmware would I have wifi calling?
jjr3211 said:
So if I have a at&t version and flash the u1 firmware would I have wifi calling?
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No. If you're on the AT&T version, stay there.
I can't believe AT&T would whitelist all Samsung Unlocked devices, that would really surprise me. You can buy AT&T locked Galaxy phone and unlock it with AT&T since you bought it outright, and then of course it would be whitelisted.
Still Less Features for Factory Unlocked Models?
Read through this thread and tried digging around in all other logical forums and it seems that it's still the case that one cannot get WiFi calling on AT&T with a Factory Unlocked model?
Asking because Amazon is selling the Note 20 Ultra 512GB Factory Unlocked today for $1,200.
Found a Reddit thread that has people stating there will be a Samsung update that addresses this.
Have seen various posts in various places about flashing file(s)/ROM to enable this.
Any authoritative answer as to whether WiFi Calling (and Voice Over LTE) can be enabled on AT&T with a Factory Unlocked Note 20 Ultra? Or authoritative assurance it will, soon?
haroldlundt said:
Read through this thread and tried digging around in all other logical forums and it seems that it's still the case that one cannot get WiFi calling on AT&T with a Factory Unlocked model?
Asking because Amazon is selling the Note 20 Ultra 512GB Factory Unlocked today for $1,200.
Found a Reddit thread that has people stating there will be a Samsung update that addresses this.
Have seen various posts in various places about flashing file(s)/ROM to enable this.
Any authoritative answer as to whether WiFi Calling (and Voice Over LTE) can be enabled on AT&T with a Factory Unlocked Note 20 Ultra? Or authoritative assurance it will, soon?
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They cannot. Att and att based subsidized carriers. Do not allow byod on votle or wifi calling. I have a trick to make it work for a couple hours. So I know its possible. But after a few hours their systems reprovision your device and shut them back off.
TheMadScientist said:
They cannot. Att and att based subsidized carriers. Do not allow byod on votle or wifi calling. I have a trick to make it work for a couple hours. So I know its possible. But after a few hours their systems reprovision your device and shut them back off.
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Too bad. Thanks for the reply. Feel better about passing up the sale especially since it will probably be a common sale price during Xmas sales.
And WiFi Calling is too important a feature to trade for a discount of a hundred or even two.
haroldlundt said:
Too bad. Thanks for the reply. Feel better about passing up the sale especially since it will probably be a common sale price during Xmas sales.
And WiFi Calling is too important a feature to trade for a discount of a hundred or even two.
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Yea. If you provision volte and wifi on a actual att phone and sim swap they work for a while. Usually around 4 or 5 am. Then it shuts off and never works again. Till sim swap and reprovision
VoLTE on unlocked Samsung S20 and Note20 series phones is set to "on" by default, but unchangeable (greyed out). As of right now, there is no ability to select WiFi calling until Samsung decides to grace those of us with unlocked phones that ability.
haroldlundt said:
Read through this thread and tried digging around in all other logical forums and it seems that it's still the case that one cannot get WiFi calling on AT&T with a Factory Unlocked model?
Asking because Amazon is selling the Note 20 Ultra 512GB Factory Unlocked today for $1,200.
Found a Reddit thread that has people stating there will be a Samsung update that addresses this.
Have seen various posts in various places about flashing file(s)/ROM to enable this.
Any authoritative answer as to whether WiFi Calling (and Voice Over LTE) can be enabled on AT&T with a Factory Unlocked Note 20 Ultra? Or authoritative assurance it will, soon?
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There is a long term method but it involves calling att, and getting your IMEI registered so you can get VOLTE and wifi calling. Ask customer service. I can't remember the name of the department you need to request. It takes a couple of weeks and then you suddenly get a weird sms (something like IMEI provisioned) and then it works. Did it on note 9.