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Would buying an S7 be downgrading from my Note 5?

I currently have the Note 5 and love it. If I were to trade it in and get the S7 would that be a downgrade even though the phone is newer? Would I be wasting my money? How much better is the camera and performance compared to Note 5?
I'm talking the S7 not the Edge version. I don't like the Edge phones and not interested in them.

The only downgrade is the screen size, everything else is an upgrade. Some will say you lose some detail going from 16mp to 12mp, while true, the upside is you get much better low light performance and insanely quick autofocus.
Did i mention the sdcard and water resistance?

peachpuff said:
The only downgrade is the screen size, everything else is an upgrade. Some will say you lose some detail going from 16mp to 12mp, while true, the upside is you get much better low light performance and insanely quick autofocus.
Did i mention the sdcard and water resistance?
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In a few months after the first one or two camera software updates, the camera of the S7 will indeed prove to be an upgrade over the Note 5. The water resistance of the S7 is proving to be iffy at best, so I wouldn't count that as a win.

I should also add I have a Tab s2 8.0 already so traveling and going places I still have a larger device. Would I benefit from the S7 over a note 5 performance wise or is the differences in speed so small you wont really notice it?

No
Just smaller screen

I had note 5 and I traded it in for the SGS7. I still have Note 4 for larger screen. Love the S7.

Well I traded in the Note 5 for a Gold S7 today. I was going to get the Edge but then I compared it to the Note 5 and it's just as big as it almost and didn't justify spending the extra money on it and might as well just kept the note then. the screen isn't tons smaller when putting it up against the Note 5 but the frame of the S7 is A LOT smaller which makes the phone really compact even with a Defender case on it. I'm going to order some tempered glass and a Supcase and a couple smaller cases on Amazon. The Note is a great phone but just was a little too bulky.
The Defender for the S7 is a lot better quality than the Note 5. Stiffer material and the built in screen protector fits more flush than past Defenders. I will order a couple more cases and some glass but I think I might be sticking with the Defender for awhile though!

Who thinks the S8 looks better or worse than the G6?

So far all the leak photos make the s8 look quite cheap and plasticky IMHO. I also think the G6 looks a lot like the Note 5.

How does glass looks cheap and plastic?

I like actually like the G6 better, and because it actually has flat screen, I use S7 edge now and it pain the the ass sometimes with my big meat paws, and the S8 looks too tall and skinny. doesn`t look right. lol

after today its not clear which is better

I agree, Samsung is forcing high price Curved only model, millions of people might be stay away when they know S8 available only with curved screen

Nothing wow'd me about the S8 so I'll stick with my S7 Edge.

I am S7 user and I loved flat screen front and curved back, I don't see any technical advantage of having curved screen, also as always UK and maybe Europe version is NOT available with Snapdragon 835, another bad piece of design is position of fingerprint scanner, iris is ok but not a huge advantage, I have doubt that 3000 mAh battery will be not be class leading or better than S7, Bixby is completely gimmicks, Camera review is not out yet but on specs wise it's same apparatus & pixel size and I doubt that Samsung will try to make same old hardware better by optimising and twining software only, No sound DAC, PC attachment is also nothing new as we seen it already, I will wait for full review and see how S8's camera and battery perform, compare with £689 price range Huawei P10 plus, LG G6 or Oneplus 3T 128GB, Dual SIM Midnight black 'limited addition' is also a looker, Best of luck guys

I was on the fence of getting either the G6 or S8. I'm not a big fan of the edge screen. I had the S7 edge and my big hands always touched the screen. With that said, I'm going to order the S8 over the G6. For the simple reason is price and newer specs. If I don't like the curved screen I'll just sell it or return it if Verizon offers the free restocking when our based online.
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It clearly looks better than the G6 to me
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Neither is great tbh. But the S8 has then "edge" for now. I'll wait and see the weeklong ownership reviews before I decide. Who knows, the note 8 might be the phone to get when it drops this year, but when?
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The S8's could win beauty contests including Victoria's Secret! : cool:

I prefer the one that doesn't have curved screen.

Currently have the G6 and it is a fantastic phone. Never used a phone with an 835 SOC as have neither of you so I cant say which is Faster. But the G6 is certainly smooth, and that flat screen is Awesome for glass screen protectors. But, IMO the LCD panel (which looks good) is nothing compared to the Oled samsung panel (subjective, yes). It seems im turning the brightness up to 60%+ just to feel comfortable using it, Its too dim otherwise. Previous phones Ive been able to keep the brightness on 30-40% and been happy (inside of course) Having had the 6P, S7 and OnePlus 3T with the amoled panels, this LCD on the G6 just doesnt do it for me. I personally even think the LCD on the iPhone 7+ looks better and Im not an iPhone fan. Also, and maybe this is over critical, I feel like the edges of the G6 display all leak a bit of light, especially the top. For some reason it just drives me crazy (OCD? ) So Im giving the G6 to one of my kids and getting the S8+

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Currently have the G6 and it is a fantastic phone. Never used a phone with an 835 SOC as have neither of you so I cant say which is Faster. But the G6 is certainly smooth, and that flat screen is Awesome for glass screen protectors. But, IMO the LCD panel (which looks good) is nothing compared to the Oled samsung panel (subjective, yes). It seems im turning the brightness up to 60%+ just to feel comfortable using it, Its too dim otherwise. Previous phones Ive been able to keep the brightness on 30-40% and been happy (inside of course) Having had the 6P, S7 and OnePlus 3T with the amoled panels, this LCD on the G6 just doesnt do it for me. I personally even think the LCD on the iPhone 7+ looks better and Im not an iPhone fan. Also, and maybe this is over critical, I feel like the edges of the G6 display all leak a bit of light, especially the top. For some reason it just drives me crazy (OCD? ) So Im giving the G6 to one of my kids and getting the S8+
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Same thing here the G6 might look nice compare to older models but is not doing for me.

I've been to my local VZW store and they are both on display. While I like them both, I feel the S8 is the better of the two. The sleekness​ of the S8 is amazing. It feels better than my pixel in my hand. The display is awesome. I'm ordering mine tonight from Verizon. There is not a restocking fee when you order on line. So if I don't like it back it will go. I'm pretty confident I'll love it. The only thing that will ruin it is poor battery life.
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bamfsig45 said:
Currently have the G6 and it is a fantastic phone. Never used a phone with an 835 SOC as have neither of you so I cant say which is Faster. But the G6 is certainly smooth, and that flat screen is Awesome for glass screen protectors. But, IMO the LCD panel (which looks good) is nothing compared to the Oled samsung panel (subjective, yes). It seems im turning the brightness up to 60%+ just to feel comfortable using it, Its too dim otherwise. Previous phones Ive been able to keep the brightness on 30-40% and been happy (inside of course) Having had the 6P, S7 and OnePlus 3T with the amoled panels, this LCD on the G6 just doesnt do it for me. I personally even think the LCD on the iPhone 7+ looks better and Im not an iPhone fan. Also, and maybe this is over critical, I feel like the edges of the G6 display all leak a bit of light, especially the top. For some reason it just drives me crazy (OCD? ) So Im giving the G6 to one of my kids and getting the S8+
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I went from a S7E to a V20 and the first thing I noticed was the huge downgrade in screen quality. I'm happy to go back to Samsung.

I've only seen the G6 online and in videos, so I can't comment on the hands-on take, just yet anyway. I was honestly a lil concerned when I saw that the S8 was ONLY going to have a curved display, as I'm used to my flat display on my S6. Feeling the S8 firsthand, it honestly doesn't feel bad at all to me. Feels very similar to what holding my S6 feels like. Unlike the older Edge models, the sides aren't pronounced, like they don't feel as thin. For instance, the S6 Edge was too thin and not that comfortable to hold, and while the S7 Edge improved on it, the flat variant felt better.
From what I've seen with the G6, it doesn't look like a bad phone and it probably doesn't feel bad in the hand, but Samsung pushing the curved displays on both their regular and plus variants this time around, seems a bit more innovative and honestly, look way more sleek and futuristic. Flat displays are the standard as we know it since the first smartphones hit the market, so they all start to look the same -- I mean, how much can you really innovate on a flat display?

If your frame of reference for feel and usefulness of curved screens is the S7 Edge you are in for a welcome surprise. I have big hands and was frustrated from day one by the occasional (several times a day) false edge screen touch on the S7 Edge. Luckily (and unluckily) I broke my S7 Screen. When I took it in for replacement, they offered me the Note7 for the same cost as a S7 Edge. So I got the Note 7. Night and day difference in the feel and false touch rejection with the Note7. In the month or two I had a Note7 i think I got accidental edge activation a couple times. On the S7 it was multiple times per day. The phone also feels better in the hand, curved front and back feels so much better than curved front and flat back. My guess is that the S8 will be even better than the Note7 in feel and false touch rejection. And that will be a great thing.

Sold my G6. It's not that great of a device imo. Ready for the S8+. Device of the year until the Note 8 comes out.
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bamfsig45 said:
Currently have the G6 and it is a fantastic phone. Never used a phone with an 835 SOC as have neither of you so I cant say which is Faster. But the G6 is certainly smooth, and that flat screen is Awesome for glass screen protectors. But, IMO the LCD panel (which looks good) is nothing compared to the Oled samsung panel (subjective, yes). It seems im turning the brightness up to 60%+ just to feel comfortable using it, Its too dim otherwise. Previous phones Ive been able to keep the brightness on 30-40% and been happy (inside of course) Having had the 6P, S7 and OnePlus 3T with the amoled panels, this LCD on the G6 just doesnt do it for me. I personally even think the LCD on the iPhone 7+ looks better and Im not an iPhone fan. Also, and maybe this is over critical, I feel like the edges of the G6 display all leak a bit of light, especially the top. For some reason it just drives me crazy (OCD? ) So Im giving the G6 to one of my kids and getting the S8+
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The LCD is specifically the reason why I went with the S8. I don't think I can go back after having 2 back to back phones with OLED.

Worth buying Mi %5 Plus?

Hi,
I want to buy a new Xiaomi Mi 5s Plus and have some questions.
Is screen have a gorilla glass or equivalant screen protection?
Have you got scratches easly after long use?
Are AOSP ROMs work good?
I had a Nexus 5X, and it was dead of BLOD. I like light ROMS, but ROMs will work good on xiomi?
Is the phone durable?
I will buy Mi 5s Plus from off-market, means it will not have proper warranty.
And how it feels?
Do you suggest buying it?
Thank you so so much.

I bought mine in January and still no major scratches on the screen. I do not use a screen protector. However, the back of the phone easily get scratches. The phone is pretty durable as I have dropped it many times without any damage.
Pros:
Mi 5S Plus feel very good in the hand thanks to the rounded edges and light weight.
The screen has excellent brightness and is very crisp The best IPS-screen I have ever used.
Battery life is great. You easily get 7-8 hours SOT during on day.
Very fast performance.
Cons:
The camera is not that good. Not much better than on a budget phone (e.g. Redmi Note 4X). Dual camera is a gimmick.
Me and many other 5S Plus users have problems with the touchscreen when using horizontal sliders, for instance in spotify, netflix.
Verdict:
If a good camera is not a main priority for you I can easily recommend Mi 5S Plus.

Agreed with above. I had a nexus 5x. Still works, but battery life is bad on it. Only thing I miss about it is the better camera, and the fact the speaker faced forward rather than down. Otherwise, everything I like about this phone is better. Works well with custom firmware; can't stand miui. You have to wait for Xiaomi to accept bootloader unlock request which is annoying too.

>Me and many other 5S Plus users have problems with the touchscreen when using horizontal sliders, for instance in spotify, netflix.
I don't have a problem with this. But I don't use both of the apps you mentioned, but it works good on youtube, MxPlayer etc.

I have to revise my opinion regarding the camera. I have used the google camera 2.2 hdr+ during the last week and 5S Plus now takes very good photos in both daylight and low-light. A notch below the best camera phones of course, but still very good I would say.

I have a N5x, do you recommend this phone for Aosp roms? How's battery life?

Actually, i have dropped my phone on concreate, and its screen broken just after 1 week after purchasing
I just tried for 1 week, and i like it. Even i used on stock ROM, i was waiting for miui unlock permissions to try custom Roms.
I recommend it, really good device, but is screen a bit fragile

Would You Like The Flip Camera To Return on The Zenfone 7?

Would u all like to see the flip camera return or go back to the regular front facing camera for the next Zenfone? I'm sure the next Zenfone will be announced in a few months I'm still happy with my 6 but not sure about the camera. According to rumors they got rid of the flip camera. I did love the flip camera for panorama shots and motion tracking I thought those were great ideas.
Do u want the flip camera to return for the Zenfone 7?
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sedp23 said:
Would u all like to see the flip camera return or go back to the regular front facing camera for the next Zenfone? I'm sure the next Zenfone will be announced in a few months I'm still happy with my 6 but not sure about the camera. According to rumors they got rid of the flip camera. I did love the flip camera for panorama shots and motion tracking I thought those were great ideas.
Do u want the flip camera to return for the Zenfone 7?
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No: I prefer a notch especially because I miss face unlock.

I love this phone exactly as it is. The camera design is fantastic and mechanically brilliant. Having a phone without a full screen seems insane to me. Either have less screen across the top for the cameras etc or the current configuration. Notches look silly/pointless.

SlinkyMalinky said:
I love this phone exactly as it is. The camera design is fantastic and mechanically brilliant. Having a phone without a full screen seems insane to me. Either have less screen across the top for the cameras etc or the current configuration. Notches look silly/pointless.
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I agree

SlinkyMalinky said:
I love this phone exactly as it is. The camera design is fantastic and mechanically brilliant. Having a phone without a full screen seems insane to me. Either have less screen across the top for the cameras etc or the current configuration. Notches look silly/pointless.
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Silly?

LOL is someone working for Asus making these threads? Zenforum, XDA, Reddit. My understanding is the flip cam was expensive to make, makes the phone expensive to repair, and is the 6 is the worst selling Zenfone. If those facts are true, I highly doubt the next Zenfone will have a flip cam.

My preference would be full screen display, no selfie cam, no notch, non-flip main cam. But that's not going to happen with any manufacturer, I suppose...

KickerTom said:
My preference would be full screen display, no selfie cam, no notch, non-flip main cam. But that's not going to happen with any manufacturer, I suppose...
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Manufacturers are working on under display cameras.

KickerTom said:
My preference would be full screen display, no selfie cam, no notch, non-flip main cam. But that's not going to happen with any manufacturer, I suppose...
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Same for me. I virtually never use the face cam and the fact that it cannot be activated without me knowing about it is a huge benefit.
So yes, zenfone 7 with a flip cam would be great (but please use an OLED display).

I prefer it but I rarely use it.

Hell Yeah.. I love the flip screen instead of loading a phone with cameras, helps save some money as well getting a super selfie camera.... will be glad if asus added waterproof phones and a wireless charging as well instead of spending on too many cameras

Zenfone 6 is unconvincing in year 2020 - fringerprint in the back, low freq display, slow USB, slow UFS, behind in 2 generations of cpu. So it's a no from me but it caught my interest for vanilla OS, battery, SD, jack. Since Zenfone 7 will have a notch, literally destroying one of 2 highlights of the phone, i consider this model series dead to me.

doggydog2 said:
Zenfone 6 is unconvincing in year 2020 - fringerprint in the back, low freq display, slow USB, slow UFS, behind in 2 generations of cpu. So it's a no from me but it caught my interest for vanilla OS, battery, SD, jack. Since Zenfone 7 will have a notch, literally destroying one of 2 highlights of the phone, i consider this model series dead to me.
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Eh, I don't know about all of that. This device is pretty solid, and USB speeds for transferring aren't bad. Display gets the job, UFS 2.1 is nice to have instead of emmc, and the CPU is still great for the price.

Flip not Bad rarely use it but
<500$ price
Big Display ( Great LCD since OLED BUrn IN )
MIcro SD Express Card
Headphone Jack or Two USB ( Both for Audio & Charging ) Like Rog 2 Better
32 Bit Audio & Surround Sound
True Stereo Speaker
Minimum 8GB Ram
108, 64, 64, 64 MP Camera
SD865

kk454347 said:
I agree
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Me to

sedp23 said:
Do u want the flip camera to return for the Zenfone 7?
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Absolutely yes. I'm considering getting a successor to the Zenfone 6 whenever it comes, but I'll only do it if it still retains this mechanism.
1. This alleviates some privacy issues of always having a camera pointed at you, not knowing if it's recording or not.
2. Selfie quality obviously is a huge factor.
3. Pano shots
4. rear fingerprint unlock is anyway faster than face unlock, and more importantly more reliable
This is the USP.. why wouldn't I go with so many other options otherwise...
Please retain the flip front camera!
Other requests: Change the screen to AMOLED. Add a tele lens as well.

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Manufacturers are working on under display cameras.
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This is what I'm hoping for the Zenfone 7 this or a small single punch hole selfie cam

supertory said:
This is what I'm hoping for the Zenfone 7 this or a small single punch hole selfie cam
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I would not like either option. In fact, I am happy about having no camera facing me all the time...

supertory said:
This is what I'm hoping for the Zenfone 7 this or a small single punch hole selfie cam
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Same.

The whole reason for the Zenfone 6 was the uniqueness of the flip camera. It's time to improve the camera, add a larger sensor, a better IPS display(many manufacturers are going back to IPS LCD these days, so it'd be great if they use a better quality IPS screen), and keep just 1 model with 2Gbps LTE, and 4 or 5Gbps 5G NR instead of model A, model B, model C.
Asus had a lot of production problems last year. I hope that's not the same this year too.
Zenfone 6 came in the news on 3rd April last year. It's already 5th April, and no news of the Zenfone 7. I hope they don't disappoint us by launching it with a notch, or a front facing selfie.

In the market for a new phone, but I am picky... Please help.

I was eagerly waiting for the OnePlus 9 Pro, because I have become a OnePlus guy. Unfortunately, I can't get use to having a camera hole cut out, on the screen. If I must put up with it, then the hole must be centered and not off to the side. I was hoping OP would have continued the OP 7 Pro thing or figured out the under the screen technology.
Anyhow, what I am looking for:
No camera hole punch out (even if it means I must have a little bezel). If the camera hole is on the screen, it needs to be centered.
Big screen
Android based, with easy to unlock bootloader (ideally a company that supports it like OnePlus)
5G compatible
Lots of ram, fast processor, lots of disk storage - aka i want a flagship/top of the line.
Something with screen burn-in protection technology
Good camera
Works with T-Mobile in the USA
Although I love a good deal, I am not too concern about the price tag (as long as it is reasonable, like less than $1200 USD).
That said, any recommendations? I also don't mind waiting for OnePlus 9t Pro if there is any solid rumors that they will do something special to the front facing camera.
I am currently using a OnePlus 5t and although I like the phone, issues are starting to arise (issue with VoLTE and certain Bluetooth headsets, screen burn-in, etc).
Any advice would be much appreciated .

That's a lot of money, you can buy a Galaxy S21 Ultra, you'll love it. There's no burn-in proof display, it can be avoided by shifting on the screen pixels, so it's a software thing, you don't have to worry too much, unless you have a bad habit of keeping the screen on all night.
You can also check midrange devices, usually you won't feel any difference, for an example, there's Redmi Note 10, Galaxy A72, Galaxy A52, offering large displays, fast processors, at least 6 GBs of RAM, up to 256 GB of storage, and even 5G support for some models.
All that for less than 500$ (my cousin got brand new RN10 for 200$). Cameras are not a thing to worry about anymore. However, One Plus 9T Pro's front facing camera setup is a bit strange, you should avoid it if the rumours are true.

mkhcb said:
I was eagerly waiting for the OnePlus 9 Pro, because I have become a OnePlus guy. Unfortunately, I can't get use to having a camera hole cut out, on the screen. If I must put up with it, then the hole must be centered and not off to the side. I was hoping OP would have continued the OP 7 Pro thing or figured out the under the screen technology.
Anyhow, what I am looking for:
No camera hole punch out (even if it means I must have a little bezel). If the camera hole is on the screen, it needs to be centered.
Big screen
Android based, with easy to unlock bootloader (ideally a company that supports it like OnePlus)
5G compatible
Lots of ram, fast processor, lots of disk storage - aka i want a flagship/top of the line.
Something with screen burn-in protection technology
Good camera
Works with T-Mobile in the USA
Although I love a good deal, I am not too concern about the price tag (as long as it is reasonable, like less than $1200 USD).
That said, any recommendations? I also don't mind waiting for OnePlus 9t Pro if there is any solid rumors that they will do something special to the front facing camera.
I am currently using a OnePlus 5t and although I like the phone, issues are starting to arise (issue with VoLTE and certain Bluetooth headsets, screen burn-in, etc).
Any advice would be much appreciated .
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It's a lot of money, for this you will get the top of the top, personally I won't do it but it's up to you.
For considerably less money you can get very good devices covering from the 1 to the 7 of your questions, just I don't know the 8th.
For example comes to my mind the Galaxy Note 10 (although it's 2 years old), the Galaxy S20, but I would go for a Xiaomi Mi 11.

mkhcb said:
3. Android based, with easy to unlock bootloader (ideally a company that supports it like OnePlus)
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Xiaomi/Redmi/Poco or OnePlus.
Xiaomi/Redmi/Poco still have warranty coverage after bootloader unlock. Double check warranty policy youself on their website though, may vary between countries and region.