The new Razer phone - LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion

EDIT: No OIS -- no deal.... what a shame.
Don't know if you guys saw the release of the new Razer phone yesterday -- if not, you should really check it out. I will be picking one up.
Official site: link
Developer friendly -- unlockable bootloader with full fastboot. That means it can have TWRP and root on day 1 of release.
SD835
8 gigs of RAM
64 gigs internal storage
SD card slot
Quad HD 120Hz refresh rate (variable) for the display (this really sold me)
4000mAh battery (non-removable) Usually a deal breaker, but see item 1
-- Brian

Don't like it.... Looks cheap. Great guts but the overall look is ugly and square. Lol

Lack of OIS is a deal killer for me.

@AngryManMLS Where did you read that it didn't have OIS? That is also a deal killer for me. Not having OIS -- might as well just not include a camera
EDIT: Nevermind, found it in a review. What a shame, guess I will have to wait for Razer 2
-- Brian

AngryManMLS said:
Lack of OIS is a deal killer for me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nexus 6p does not have OIS but the camera is obviously better than the LG V20 .....Check DxO scores...

No headphone jack kills everything for me no matter what phone it is.

Related

Google Nexus Prime specs!

Possible nexus prime specs:
CPU: Texas Instruments OMAP 4460 Cortex A9 (1,2 GHz).
Screen: 1280 x 720 Super AMOLED HD 4,65"
OS: Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich
RAM: 1 GB RAM
Int. Memory: 32 GB
Back Camera: 5 Mpix
Front Camera: 1,3 Mpix
Movie recording in full 1080p
Wireless connectivity: LTE or HSPA (depends on operator)
NFC enabled!
9 mm thin
1750 mAh battery!
Would you mind telling us your source?
i think this is crap.. no way they would go down on camera specs from 8mp in the galaxy s ii and all there competors to 5 mp.. most likely it will have 12 or 16 mp..
This makes the rest of this suspect as well.
lgkahn said:
i think this is crap.. no way they would go down on camera specs from 8mp in the galaxy s ii and all there competors to 5 mp.. most likely it will have 12 or 16 mp..
This makes the rest of this suspect as well.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is the original source from BGR.com:
http://www.bgr.com/2011/10/06/samsung-galaxy-nexus-full-specs-revealed-verizon-wireless-exclusive/
And your arguments about the camera specs are right, when you just look at the hype about megapixel. But the image sensor is much more important for the quality of a picture. So i would like it to see the nexus prime with a better sensor, and less mp.
If you are interested, you can search for "megapixel vs. image sensor"
http://www.laesieworks.com/digicom/MP.html
If your camera has to be a compact, be sure to get a big sensor (1/1.6" or 1/1.7") and not too much megapixels.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Processor is 1.5 ghz dual core afaik, and camera is 8MP at back and 2 or 3 MP at front. Internal memory may not be 32gb , it will be 16gb.
Also battery is rumoured to be 1850 MHz.
hit thankxx if i helped. sent from my mind through telepathy (ya its possible)!
BHuvan goyal said:
...
Also battery is rumoured to be 1850 MHz.
...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
pretty fast battery
Well it will depend on the new android ics, how much it sucks battery out.
hit thankxx if i helped. sent from my mind through telepathy (ya its possible)!
lgkahn said:
i think this is crap.. no way they would go down on camera specs from 8mp in the galaxy s ii and all there competors to 5 mp.. most likely it will have 12 or 16 mp..
This makes the rest of this suspect as well.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Phones only really need 5mp. 8mp will make the picture larger, but that doesn't mean that it will be better.
Then again if you really want an amazing camera that also happens to make calls, then check out the Nokia N8. 12MP and a Carl Zeiss (SP?) on that bad boy...
Sent from my MB860 using xda premium
DBL Post...
Sent from my MB860 using xda premium
ccrows said:
Phones only really need 5mp. 8mp will make the picture larger, but that doesn't mean that it will be better.
Then again if you really want an amazing camera that also happens to make calls, then check out the Nokia N8. 12MP and a Carl Zeiss (SP?) on that bad boy...
Sent from my MB860 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well I have actually used all three that are best in the business- samsung galaxy s 2, n8 and se arc se ARC has the best camera of all three and sg2 has also a better camera then n8 so 12 MP s don't really matter when u don't have optical zoom, the quality matter and arc outstands both sgs2 and n8 !
hit thankxx if i helped. sent from my mind through telepathy (ya its possible)!
A little disappointed with the hardware (processor was rumoured differently, for one) but it's still going to be one hell of a phone.
What i'd like to see:
I'd very much like if they'd stop making bigger screens. I really think 4'' was the sweet spot, nearly 5'' is... well, too big imo. I realize this may be a requirement for 1280 x 720-pixel res but i honestly believe my phone is big enough as it is (i own an SGS). Granted, higher resolution rules but... well, it's a phone, not a tablet.
I'd also like to see an SD card slot. I can't really see why not. Sure you already have 32Gb. More than enough for me as far as space goes, but i usually leave my phone downloading stuff over the night. SO much faster and easier to just take the card out and plugging in the computer in the morning than having all of that transferred over wireless again.
Android also has a few issues with sdcards (try setting an mp3 as your ringtone stored in the sd, removing, putting the card back in and get a call), but removing the slot completely isn't really a solution and it doesn't take that much space.
Aluminum instead of plastics. Or at least solid stuff for a lasting phone. Phones aren't meant to fall but shi* happens and i'd like my 500€ investment a bit better suited to survive. Don't really mind plastics though, they make my phone lighter, but i'd like some solid stuff for a change. At the very least, nothing as thin as the back cover of an SGS2, please. If we're doing plastics, i'm thinking the back cover of the iphone 3GS. Has a great solid feeling.
I don't care much for the camera. Only think i'd ask is decent, solid shots and that the sensor not to take much space in the back. Cameras usually spoil the design with a huge lump in the back. If it's glass could be made not to touch the surface of the table to prevent scratches, would be cool as well.
What i'd like to see is that great responsiveness to touch iphones have that android seems to lack, even on higher end devices. Sure they work great, but now and then android seems to skip a beat or just lag for 0.5 sec before registering touch. Lockscreens are particularly affected by this.
That said i have really high hopes for ICS. REALLY. I don't care much for competition (hey everyone should use whatever they like or suits them best) but android has always been a few steps ahead of iOS as far as complexity goes. This is a good thing, for me at least. I don't mean to offend anyone, but really, every time i need to use iOS i feel kind of retarded. Hand feeding me stuff that'd be obvious already just works against me. Apple didn't do much to add for that (seen loads of people disappointed, me included) so I honestly believe android can push it ahead once and for all.
My needs may be a bit different that the rest of the world, but i'd prefer some core improvements (like responsiveness improved and bug corrections) other than extra semi-useless new features (like voice control). That'd make for a more solid experience, imo. All that said, I'm kind of excited about this, might really be my next phone if it hits enough spots on my book.
kaynpayn said:
What i'd like to see:
I'd very much like if they'd stop making bigger screens. I really think 4'' was the sweet spot, nearly 5'' is... well, too big imo. I realize this may be a requirement for 1280 x 720-pixel res but i honestly believe my phone is big enough as it is (i own an SGS). Granted, higher resolution rules but... well, it's a phone, not a tablet.
I'd also like to see an SD card slot. I can't really see why not. Sure you already have 32Gb. More than enough for me as far as space goes, but i usually leave my phone downloading stuff over the night. SO much faster and easier to just take the card out and plugging in the computer in the morning than having all of that transferred over wireless again.
Android also has a few issues with sdcards (try setting an mp3 as your ringtone stored in the sd, removing, putting the card back in and get a call), but removing the slot completely isn't really a solution and it doesn't take that much space.
Aluminum instead of plastics. Or at least solid stuff for a lasting phone. Phones aren't meant to fall but shi* happens and i'd like my 500€ investment a bit better suited to survive. Don't really mind plastics though, they make my phone lighter, but i'd like some solid stuff for a change. At the very least, nothing as thin as the back cover of an SGS2, please. If we're doing plastics, i'm thinking the back cover of the iphone 3GS. Has a great solid feeling.
I don't care much for the camera. Only think i'd ask is decent, solid shots and that the sensor not to take much space in the back. Cameras usually spoil the design with a huge lump in the back. If it's glass could be made not to touch the surface of the table to prevent scratches, would be cool as well.
What i'd like to see is that great responsiveness to touch iphones have that android seems to lack, even on higher end devices. Sure they work great, but now and then android seems to skip a beat or just lag for 0.5 sec before registering touch. Lockscreens are particularly affected by this.
That said i have really high hopes for ICS. REALLY. I don't care much for competition (hey everyone should use whatever they like or suits them best) but android has always been a few steps ahead of iOS as far as complexity goes. This is a good thing, for me at least. I don't mean to offend anyone, but really, every time i need to use iOS i feel kind of retarded. Hand feeding me stuff that'd be obvious already just works against me. Apple didn't do much to add for that (seen loads of people disappointed, me included) so I honestly believe android can push it ahead once and for all.
My needs may be a bit different that the rest of the world, but i'd prefer some core improvements (like responsiveness improved and bug corrections) other than extra semi-useless new features (like voice control). That'd make for a more solid experience, imo. All that said, I'm kind of excited about this, might really be my next phone if it hits enough spots on my book.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Good you pointed out about screen as many people including you have a little bit misunderstanding about bigger screens- a bigger screen doesn't mean a very big phone. they reduce the extra space from edges and boundaries to make screen big( give a nice look at sgs2 and sgs2 HD lte and you'll notice that sgs2 has a big home button which is more of a square whereas sgs2 hd lte has a mere small rectangle home button so they have reduced spaces for sure and also the small buttons will be till convinient to press), now the big fact in case of Samsung galaxy nexus or nexus prime is that it wont have those capacitive, back, menu ,home(mostly hard key) buttons, Those will be replaced by on screen buttons so more space reduced for bigger screen. All other things you pointed out will be made cleared once the ics and new device is itself released but about touch responsiveness - all smartphones these days have nearly same touch sensors which are gr8 but the thing which makes apple devices smoother and more responsive is GPU acceleration, which is very good in apple's ios then in android that's why many people were asking the Guy who got the ics equipped nexus s that ' did you feel gr8 touch responsiveness on your nexus s ?'. I am also looking forward to this event to know that will ics have gpu accelearion or not.
hit thankxx if i helped. sent from my mind through telepathy (ya its possible)!
Nexus Prime correct Specs
CORRECT SPECS:
http://www.gsmarena.com/source_close_to_google_reveals_real_nexus_prime_specs-news-3239.php
"According to our source, the device codenamed Nexus Prime is going to ship with Samsung's own chipset, with a blazingly fast dual-core processor clocked at 1.5GHz. But wait, there's more.
On that chipset will also reside a powerful dual-core GPU from Imagination. We suspect it's going to be the PowerVR SGX543MP2, or in other words, the same GPU found in the iPad 2 (and quite probably on the iPhone 4S as well).
On the back, instead of the 5-megapixel snapper, our source claims, there's an 8-megapixel, full 1080p HD video-shooting camera with some sort of an improved sensor. As for the battery, expect a 2050mAh one (do we hear a whoa?), which should be good for a couple of days use without charging.
The Nexus Prime will also be LTE-enabled, but the most interesting part is that it would probably boast a dual-mode GSM/CDMA radio, just like the Apple iPhone 4S.
All those specifications sound almost too nice to be true, but keeping in mind the advertisement for the Nexus Prime, prompting us that "something BIG is coming", we won't be surprised if all of these purported specs turn out to be real.
What we do know for sure is that the head-turning 4.65-inch, 1280x720 pixels screen is definitely a go. Whatever the truth might be, we'll definitely find out on October 11, which is just a few days from now."

Update to LG G6?

LG has posted a YouTube reveal that seems to reveal specific LG G6 features ahead of next month's prospective unveiling.
I make a short lists about the rumours big Specs:
1. 4K 5.7 Inch OLED DISPLAY
2. come with water-proofing and fast wireless charging
3. dual-lens camera
4. Snapdragon 835, quick charge 4.0
5. Affordable Price: $500-600
Is there any other pecs? Will you update to LG G6?
Not unless its rootable, and if all the other devs jump ship, so am I.
ekjbkt617013 said:
LG has posted a YouTube reveal that seems to reveal specific LG G6 features ahead of next month's prospective unveiling.
I make a short lists about the rumours big Specs:
1. 4K 5.7 Inch OLED DISPLAY
2. come with water-proofing and fast wireless charging
3. dual-lens camera
4. Snapdragon 835, quick charge 4.0
5. Affordable Price: $500-600
Is there any other pecs? Will you update to LG G6?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hell no. No way!!! No removeable battery...no thanks!!! And there's no way it'll be 5.7" more like 5.3". Nah, this phone is a beast...best of all worlds for me. LOVE it more than my old favorite, ancient Note 3! BUT...supposedly it comes with a "flexible screen". Let's see.
jreed3786 said:
Hell no. No way!!! No removeable battery...no thanks!!! And there's no way it'll be 5.7" more like 5.3". Nah, this phone is a beast...best of all worlds for me. LOVE it more than my old favorite, ancient Note 3! BUT...supposedly it comes with a "flexible screen". Let's see.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
5.7" has already been confirmed
If 1-4 are true, then 5 is not.
Nothing is confirmed until it gets released. There is no that all of that info is correct. I just doesn't make sense for that price.
Yeah... It is a no go for me lol. Who knows. Maybe by when it releases, android will not be rootable anymore. Rather play it safe and planning on keeping the v20 for at least 4 years ?
I have no plan to get G6.
V20 will be for 2-3 years as the hardware won't be obsolete too soon.
I want all the rumored specs PLUS A BIGGER BATTERY than V20. Then i'll switch.
It's too early to make a final decision. The info about the G6 is limited with only some details confirmed while the rest is speculation.
That said, the gap in hardware between the V20 and the G6 would be fairly limited or incremental (for example Snapdragon 820 vs 835). I personally don't expect the G6 to have the special features that are unique to the V line such as the Quad DAC and second screen, among others. Those are more important to me than a slightly faster processor, water resistance and wireless charging.
The only thing that I do want is an improved camera setup which I expect we will see on the G6. (Especially low light performance and the front camera - 5MP on the v20 is too low)
Once it finally launches the question will be, is the G6 a worthy upgrade over the V20? I doubt it.
Would it be a worthy upgrade over he G5? Based on the rumours so far, I would say yes.
I would swap to it only because I prefer smaller phones and waterproof would be nice. However I'm only paying 4 bucks a month for the v20 so unless some special like that comes around, I'll stick to the v20.
G6 is too far out to believe ALL the rumors. And no swappable battery and no guarantee of unlockable bootloader are no gos for me. And I think the 835 will be a noticeable improvement but only if they put fast enough flash in it. And what's wrong with wireless charging display side down? Metal unibodies with no battery cover are terrible intentional obsolescence designs. And the lame sauce phones can be repurposed for weak reasons is hogwash. Think people need to look up the environmental effects of phone recycling. See how China is ruining certain places to redo e rare earth metals and how to recycle them. Batteries only last so long until you have to use them plugged them in, if the battery doesn't swell before then.
I'd be fine with all of that except for the 4k screen. There's no need and it would absolutely KILL the battery.
Why would I update this V20 is a beast. It does everything I want and more!
Sent from my LG-LS997 using Tapatalk
i for one will never ever buy an lg phone end of story
hykhleif said:
i for one will never ever buy an lg phone end of story
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Cool story
No removable battery make the G6 a no go for me.
Sent from my LG-H918 using XDA-Developers Legacy app
Probably G6 will become G Flex... another failure.
There is a photo going around now of the top half of the g6 and it looks really nice. Rumor is they went with an all glass and metal design and no more removable back, has super thin bezels, and is waterproof, and a 5.7in display.
http://www.theverge.com/2017/1/23/14363314/lg-g6-photo-leak-android-smartphone-flagship-mwc
Another rumor going around that it will have a Snapdragon 821 because Samsung is hoarding all of the initial supply of Snapdragon 835s for the S8. Definitely don't want a Snapdragon 821 in 2017.

OP6 or LG V30

Hope you're not going to hate me for this question, but I'm torn and really could use some advice. Where I live I can get the OP6 or LG V30 for a similar price.
OP6: I really like the design of the device (even the notch) and I like OP's take on Android (the skin; additional features such as more options when taking screenshots or the reading mode). The mute slider seems cool. From what I could read, OP releases software updates more frequently and faster than LG, which would be important to me. The camera for the most part is praised in the reviews. It's a newer phone, so better processor, more RAM, but I doubt it will matter much if I mostly use my phone for browsing the web, Spotify, Netflix and taking pictures on the go.
LG V30: I like the idea of having a wide-angle camera and better audio quality on headphones. Also, the SD card slot will make transferring data from my current Galaxy S7 easier (and I won't have to ever worry about running low on space). The camera seems to be attracting quite a lot of criticism, however, and I want my phone to just work out of the box - I don't want to have to install the Gcam to take good pictures. Don't care about the video capabilities - never shoot videos. Don't take a ton of selfies, but if the front facing camera is as bad as they say, that would be a real bummer.
What's your opinion guys?
i would say go for OP6. You already has listed pros of OP6 + it has latest hardware + hell of XDA support. Most importantly OP is in the 2 place when it comes to delivering updates!!
I have both. I've had the v30 since launch and have tried to switch to other phones and just can't see to like another phone enough to leave it. I have the OP6 right now and as I use it I'm wanting to switch back to the V30...but promised myself I'd give it until the weekend. it is snappier/faster but the v30 is just such a great phone all around and I love the wide angle lense.
here are some photo comparisons in auto mode. I prefer the v30 in most shots.
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1...?key=MWxlc052bFJVcTNIVjlKd0I1SDBPaE1tbEZmSHl3
Another thing to ask your self is if you have interest in running custom ROMS. You are on this forum so I will say that you may at least have an interest in doing so or possibly desire for root. If I am not mistaken, to-date, the only version of the V30 that is capable of being unlocked and rooted is the LGUS998 which is LGs carrier free Unlocked version. No carrier version has been able to be unlocked and rooted as of yet. Thus you will be limited to what updates LG provides and any apps that don't require root.
That said, the LG V30 is indeed a nice phone. I contemplated buying this myself but I absolutely need root. Was going to get the unlocked version however, I believe with the difficulty / not being able to unlock any other model, development support has been low. Thus lost interest in it personally. Also, price was kind of high at the time with mediocre performance in comparison to other phones (S8, S9, OP5T, etc). To me if the price is the same for both OP6 and LG V30, then it's a no brainer and go with OP6. However, if you can get the V30 for at least $100 cheaper, then I might steer to the V30 as it's a nice phone. However for same price. OP6 all the way.
I like the OP6 more than the V30 so far. The OS on the OP6 has a lot more customization and is more stock. It's a little faster feeling. If your headphones are "normal" headphones you probably won't notice a huge quality difference. If I were to rate the audio quality on recent devices it would go like this:
Exynos S7 Edge < Pixel 1 < Pixel 2 dongle < OP6 < V30. The OP6 sounds really good to me.
That's with 1More dual driver IEM's, Sony XBA-A3, Audeze iSine 20. I can't speak to trying to drive full size or higher impedance headphones.
I like the camera quality better from the OP6 in my environment, and the camera app performance is much better than the V30. The low viewfinder framerate on the V30 made framing stuff annoying. Right now, you have the option to use GCam on the V30 and it works decently. Currently there isn't a working port for the OP6.
bitwiser said:
I have both. I've had the v30 since launch and have tried to switch to other phones and just can't see to like another phone enough to leave it. I have the OP6 right now and as I use it I'm wanting to switch back to the V30...but promised myself I'd give it until the weekend. it is snappier/faster but the v30 is just such a great phone all around and I love the wide angle lense.
here are some photo comparisons in auto mode. I prefer the v30 in most shots.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you! I saw your pics in another thread and was also surprised to like the V30 photos better (surprised because of all the criticism that V30 is getting for stills performance). What is it that you like about the V30 so much that you find yourself going back to the device? What worries me is that here on Xda, V30 seems to have rather low ratings in the "Real Reviews" section, so clearly many people are not in love with the phone.
cstark27 said:
I like the OP6 more than the V30 so far. The OS on the OP6 has a lot more customization and is more stock. It's a little faster feeling. If your headphones are "normal" headphones you probably won't notice a huge quality difference. If I were to rate the audio quality on recent devices it would go like this:
Exynos S7 Edge < Pixel 1 < Pixel 2 dongle < OP6 < V30. The OP6 sounds really good to me.
That's with 1More dual driver IEM's, Sony XBA-A3, Audeze iSine 20. I can't speak to trying to drive full size or higher impedance headphones.
I like the camera quality better from the OP6 in my environment, and the camera app performance is much better than the V30. The low viewfinder framerate on the V30 made framing stuff annoying. Right now, you have the option to use GCam on the V30 and it works decently. Currently there isn't a working port for the OP6.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks! I use A-Jays for headphones, which are supposed to be good, but not audiophile headphones for sure. I am happy to hear that you're satisfied with the audio output quality on the OP6. Judging by software tours on YouTube, I was also leaning more towards the OP6. Choices, choices!
jaqubp said:
Thanks! I use A-Jays for headphones, which are supposed to be good, but not audiophile headphones for sure. I am happy to hear that you're satisfied with the audio output quality on the OP6. Judging by software tours on YouTube, I was also leaning more towards the OP6. Choices, choices!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yep, more than satisfied with the headphone jack quality! I was contemplating getting one of those new LG Q7+ because it would be cheap and has the Quad DAC - I'd just leave it at work as a dedicated player. But I would have no desire to do that now with the OP6. It closed the gap between the Pixel 2 dongle and the V30 a pretty good amount. I do miss GCam though.
jaqubp said:
Thank you! I saw your pics in another thread and was also surprised to like the V30 photos better (surprised because of all the criticism that V30 is getting for stills performance). What is it that you like about the V30 so much that you find yourself going back to the device? What worries me is that here on Xda, V30 seems to have rather low ratings in the "Real Reviews" section, so clearly many people are not in love with the phone.
The main thing for me is the wide angle lens. I can't tell you how many times I use it in a week. I could maybe get by without it but it would be inconvenient. I really don't see why LG is the only one doing this with the second camera. Google has proved you can do portrait mode with one lens and a 2x zoom is really nothing/pointless. Second is the screen to body ratio. It is the best feeling phone in my hands with the largest possible screen. I also love the power button and FP sensor in one of the back but I know LG is changing that and many others don't like it. I just think the less buttons you put on the sides the better. I can tell you I never accidentally press the volume button when going to power off (or vice versa) like I have on so many other phones. LG also has always on display and I just prefer how they display their clock better than any one else (I use it by my bed at night). Wireless charging and IP67 is a big plus as well.
On the downside (keeps me looking at others). Speed of the phone and updates. It is not a slow phone by any means but when you use the OP6 you notice a feeling of speed between screens. V30 won't be getting "P" this year OP 6 will. Selfie camera on V30 is bad. I don't take many selfies.
So for me the cons outweigh the pros on the v30 more than any other phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks guys for all your comments and suggestions. Really appreciate it.
In case anyone is interested what I've decided and why, I went ahead with the LG V30, figuring that if I hate it, it will be easier to return. Also, the wide-angle camera and SD card support were important factors. I already have a 128GB SD card from my old Galaxy S7, so switching to V30 was a breeze.
In addition, living in a non-euro country, I would have effectively paid 50 euros more for the 256GB OP6 than for the 64GB LG V30, because of the fees that PayPal/banks are charging when translating currencies. And with V30, 64GB is enough, because of the SD card I already have. So that's that.
But so far so good. V30 seems like a good phone with its own share of nice little features (especially like the quick controls in always on-display - don't know if that's LG or standard Android).

The OnePlus 7 the forgotten one?

Watch the video here:
I was lucky enough to attend the OnePlus 7 series launch and got to try out The OnePlus 7 and answer the question who is it for? Well lets take a look at the specs first starting with the screen, a 6.41 inch Optic Amoled sounds fantastic especially at a starting point of only £499 but it pales in comparison to the 90hz QHD behemoth of the 7 Pro, plus there’s a tear drop notch which slightly obscures the viewing experience. Very similar to the OnePlus 6T in fact, however it does have a newer snapdragon 855 chipset with up to 256gb of built in storage and 8gb of RAM meaning the Oneplus 7 is no slouch and will perform like a beast especially with Oxygen OS.
Another major change from the OnePlus 6T is finally finally dual speakers, an omission that OnePlus fans have been craving for a very long time and now OnePlus has made good but in all honesty do these changes really justify upgrading from your OnePlus 6T and I would have to say no. Hear me out for a minute, yes the OnePlus 7 is using LPDDR4X RAM and UFS 3.0 2-Lane storage, the same 3700mah battery, a very similar screen with an in display fingerprint sensor and dual rear cameras one being a 48mp Sony IMX 586 with an aperture of f1.7 and the secondary camera is a 5mp autofocus f 2.4 sensor, as opposed to the 6T’s 16 and 20mp cameras. But at least the 48mp front camera is an improvement over the 16mp front shooter of the 6T.
The build is first rate and feels premium with the glass back and aluminium frame sandwiched between the screen and back panel, the dimensions and weight are almost identical to the 6T, It will come in the mirror Gray which you can see in this video but also a red version specifically aimed at the Chinese and Indian market which gives a substantial hint at who the OnePlus 7 is aimed towards.
To be honest the OnePlus 7 feels super smooth and lightening fast, but then every device from OnePlus does, running android 9 out the box adds to the experience and should help gain some extra battery savings.
So the question is who is the OnePlus 7 aimed at? Ok well if you live in North America clearly not you as it is not being released there, It is however being released in the UK sometime in June. Which is an interesting choice not to launch it alongside the pro variant but my guess would be this decision is to start pushing the pro which lets be honest can no longer be called a flagship killer as it is a flagship. If you have a 6T then this is not really a viable upgrade for you as I feel the OnePlus 7 is really a OnePlus 6TS, If you are coming from an older OnePlus device or are on a tight budget then I conclude this is probably aimed at you. Great device overall but not ground breaking, what do you think?
OP appears to be pricing this around $400-$450 in China sui it really makes me wonder what their strategy. Also makes it more irritating that they're forcing the 6T on us here and charging us more for olderb tech.
Leaves a real sour taste in the mouth for OP.
I'm looking forward to some real reviews of OP7. Coming from OP3T I find the device interesting, but there is a lot of competition at this price point and a lot of more expensive phones have become cheaper since their launch.
I find the 7 Pro too big, I hate the curved screen and the price is too high, but that's debatable.
My shortlist so far are Zenfone 6, Samsung S10e and Xiaomi Mi 9.
Even Huawei p30 pro has come down in price from 1000 euros to 650 euros, making it only 100 euro more expensive than OP7.
The 7 is the same upgrade as usual. The 7 Pro is another phone made for a different customer.
As always the 6 month upgrade is not worth it. For 6T owners the 7T will be their next worthwhile upgrade.
Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk
Design wise the Oneplus 7 is same as the 6T. But it has a powerful chip and better fingerprint performance.
DavidAdamLeo said:
Design wise the Oneplus 7 is same as the 6T. But it has a powerful chip and better fingerprint performance.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
And stereo speakers.
I import the OP7 to the US and I love it. To me, it's a vast improvement over the 6T, even the screen seems slightly better, and I'm not sure if that was really touched on. Love the stereo speakers, fast FP reader, speed and even the camera over the 6T. Transferring multiple and large files to the computer is also much quicker.
&roid said:
I import the OP7 to the US and I love it. To me, it's a vast improvement over the 6T, even the screen seems slightly better, and I'm not sure if that was really touched on. Love the stereo speakers, fast FP reader, speed and even the camera over the 6T. Transferring multiple and large files to the computer is also much quicker.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Congrats! I just ordered an international model OP7 from eBay. Did you have to flash OOS from hydrogen? Any gotchas I should look out for? Thx!
Sent from my Pixel 3a XL using Tapatalk
redeyss said:
Congrats! I just ordered an international model OP7 from eBay. Did you have to flash OOS from hydrogen? Any gotchas I should look out for? Thx!
Sent from my Pixel 3a XL using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No issues. Super easy, just download the official update for OOS and flash from the official updater in Hydrogen OS using the local upgrade option. The zip just has to be in the root directory. After flashing, and rebooting, I did a full wipe to clear any residuals, and began to use like normal. The easiest update to official international software ever.
&roid said:
No issues. Super easy, just download the official update for OOS and flash from the official updater in Hydrogen OS using the local upgrade option. The zip just has to be in the root directory. After flashing, and rebooting, I did a full wipe to clear any residuals, and began to use like normal. The easiest update to official international software ever.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Awesome thanks, sold my 6t before the release and then couldn't believe OP declined to offer the base model in the states! I hate curved screens with a passion!!
Sent from my Pixel 3a XL using Tapatalk
​
redeyss said:
Awesome thanks, sold my 6t before the release and then couldn't believe OP declined to offer the base model in the states! I hate curved screens with a passion!!
Sent from my Pixel 3a XL using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Totally agree with you. I've been really happy with the 7. It's fast and I just love the stereo sound over the 6t. Most 6t cases can be made to fit too. Just had to do a little trimming around the alert slider with some or around the camera LED on others with a xacto razor. I used the official 6T tempered glass on mine too because I could order here from OnePlus directly. That was a direct fit needing no modifications.
&roid said:
​
Totally agree with you. I've been really happy with the 7. It's fast and I just love the stereo sound over the 6t. Most 6t cases can be made to fit too. Just had to do a little trimming around the alert slider with some or around the camera LED on others with a xacto razor. I used the official 6T tempered glass on mine too because I could order here from OnePlus directly. That was a direct fit needing no modifications.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Good to hear, I've got some cases and tgsp leftover from the 6t. I've been excited about stereo speakers (without the mod) and ufs 3.0 storage speeds. Can you comment on any difference in speed vs earlier OP phones? Funny question cuz they've always been the fastest and smoothest phones in the biz, I know!
Have you rooted with booting twrp or fully installing twrp?
Sent from my Pixel 3a XL using Tapatalk
redeyss said:
Good to hear, I've got some cases and tgsp leftover from the 6t. I've been excited about stereo speakers (without the mod) and ufs 3.0 storage speeds. Can you comment on any difference in speed vs earlier OP phones? Funny question cuz they've always been the fastest and smoothest phones in the biz, I know!
Have you rooted with booting twrp or fully installing twrp?
Sent from my Pixel 3a XL using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I didn't bother rooting because I liked the official software just fine because it didn't have any bloat. I just flashed the software from the official OP page in the Hydrogen updater. I did hear that some resellers are installing international for people though, mine had hydrogen os. https://support.oneplus.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4360
The phone is certainly faster, but it's not going to floor you over a 6t. It is much smoother than a 6 and a 5t which I still own. The UFS 3.0 however was much faster when transferring files to and from the device, I noticed that immediately. On the current update, I'm really happy with the camera too. They fixed a lot of the low light issued and sharpness issues in regular lighting. I think the screen is slightly better than the 6t. I know it wasn't advertised really, and I can't quite put my finger on it, but it looks and feels a little better. It's not night and day difference or anything, just a little better IMO. Maybee you'll recognize the same thing since you will have used both phones.
&roid said:
I didn't bother rooting because I liked the official software just fine because it didn't have any bloat. I just flashed the software from the official OP page in the Hydrogen updater. I did hear that some resellers are installing international for people though, mine had hydrogen os. https://support.oneplus.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4360
The phone is certainly faster, but it's not going to floor you over a 6t. It is much smoother than a 6 and a 5t which I still own. The UFS 3.0 however was much faster when transferring files to and from the device, I noticed that immediately. On the current update, I'm really happy with the camera too. They fixed a lot of the low light issued and sharpness issues in regular lighting. I think the screen is slightly better than the 6t. I know it wasn't advertised really, and I can't quite put my finger on it, but it looks and feels a little better. It's not night and day difference or anything, just a little better IMO. Maybee you'll recognize the same thing since you will have used both phones.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Good info for all thanks!
I had trouble with the fps on the 6t but I live in a dry high altitude environment in Colorado so dry rough fingers. Reports say the 7 is much improved. Thoughts?
Did your model come with standard US charging brick? What model number? From where did you order?
Sent from my Pixel 3a XL using Tapatalk
redeyss said:
Good info for all thanks!
I had trouble with the fps on the 6t but I live in a dry high altitude environment in Colorado so dry rough fingers. Reports say the 7 is much improved. Thoughts?
Did your model come with standard US charging brick? What model number? From where did you order?
Sent from my Pixel 3a XL using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The fingerprint scanner really is more accurate. The only time I still have trouble is if my hands are slightly wet. I got the regular US type plug charger with mine. Mine was brand new and sealed from Oppomart. Mine is GM1900. 8GB RAM and 256GB storage.
&roid said:
The fingerprint scanner really is more accurate. The only time I still have trouble is if my hands are slightly wet. I got the regular US type plug charger with mine. Mine was brand new and sealed from Oppomart. Mine is GM1900. 8GB RAM and 256GB storage.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes I've noticed the wet or recently wet hand thing on the fps of the 6t, like if I washed them and my thumb skin is hydrated for a short time before drying it throws the sensor.
I also have the GM1900 on order (eBay US seller never_msrp $539 8/256) and hope to receive a US style plug. Reportedly the Chinese version vs Indian or EU version which would include the different plug type.
Sent from my Pixel 3a XL using Tapatalk
redeyss said:
Good info for all thanks!
I had trouble with the fps on the 6t but I live in a dry high altitude environment in Colorado so dry rough fingers. Reports say the 7 is much improved. Thoughts?
Did your model come with standard US charging brick? What model number? From where did you order?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My friend has 6T hence I just compared it. FP Radius is much improved. (Approx. 6T - 0.5cm and 7 is 0.7cm),
Also Sensor is damn faster. I bet it's equivalent to my previous OP5 front hardware scanner. 6T is much slow
I'm happy to see a lot of OP7 GM1900 users here. This is my first Oneplus phone and i really enjoy using. Bought mine from a seller in Macau for MOP3550($441) 8+256. No complaints so far about performance
Same here! GM1900 as well - got it for ~$482 though mine was already flashed to Oxygen. Noticed the OP7 forums much quieter than usual, I guess most of the attention is on the more expensive and flashier OP7pro which is warranted, but to me this phone is like "crouching tiger, hidden dragon" !
Hopefully more dev's jump on the bandwagon and start showing it some much needed love.
All I need now is Magisk + root + adblock!
Got mine for the same cost. Yes strangely quiet in here. Some confusion I think pre release before people knew there would be a Pro model. We definitely need more activity on this forum as this is clearly the superior phone

Zenfone 6 vs Pixel 3a XL

Both are about the same price here so not an obvious choice..
i mostly care bout holy trinity of great cam+great batt+updates so one would argue its a no-brainer but still considering asus for some reason..
why did you go for Z6 instead of pixel?
Honestly, between the two the perceived value is the biggest thing for me. The Pixel 3a XL costs £470 vs the Zenfone 6's £500 price tag.
The Pixel has: OLED screen, expected quicker/longer support, great camera.
The Zenfone 6 has: More powerful chipset, more ram, larger screen, FM radio, 128gb vs 64gb (at mentioned prices), expandable storage, better front cam, generally better battery life ( according to GSMArena, only loses in video playback).
If the Pixel 3a XL was priced below £370 instead of £470 I'd probably get it and deal with that tiny storage for the sake of OLED, camera and quick updates. The current price just seems way too high even though 90% of the time I likely won't notice the chipset difference it's nice to have the option for things like emulation or just brute forcing against slowdown over the years.
I'm at the choice between 3a XL @ £450 VS Z6 @ £370 so..
Also "life" drain test like this makes it not an easy choice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9a_TvN5Aw6Q
dezz said:
Also "life" drain test like this makes it not an easy choice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9a_TvN5Aw6Q
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Don't take this test so seriously. For example he didn't disabled power hungry Facebook and Facebook services on ZF6.
Better to look here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone-6-2019/review/screen-time-t3932140
dezz said:
I'm at the choice between 3a XL @ £450 VS Z6 @ £370 so..
Also "life" drain test like this makes it not an easy choice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9a_TvN5Aw6Q
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Where are you seeing the Z6 at £370?
So do you think gcam app can get as any closer to the pixel quality. It is the only concern I can think off work Z6
dezz said:
Both are about the same price here so not an obvious choice..
i mostly care bout holy trinity of great cam+great batt+updates so one would argue its a no-brainer but still considering asus for some reason..
why did you go for Z6 instead of pixel?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Camera, back cam shall be a bit(small may be) better than Z6 with gcam.
Camera selfie, DxO score for selfie is highest for Z6. If selfie is important, Z6 beat pixels/samsung due to flip cam.
Z6 beat others in battery life too (min 2 days and reach 3+ days for medium usage). Better processor than pixel 3a as u know already. Trust me, you will never be disappointed with Z6. I moved from s10+ to Z6 for better battery and selfie cam and I am happy with it.
So I actually got the Pixel 3a XL despite my original comment because I couldn't keep waiting. The camera is great (rear cam for standard shots seem better than the Z6) but you lose out on wide-angle, so got to think how much you'll miss that. Battery life is pretty good. Probably a lil bit worse than Zen 6 in most real world use but I get 9 hours SoT (mix of reddit, discord, maps, youtube, snapchat, whatsapp). I haven't had any issues with ram or speed like I was concerned, if you don't care about games the 670 will probably feel about the same as the 855 99% of the time.
If I could have the choice to switch to the Zenfone 6 free of charge now... I'm not 100% sure I would take it over the bit better rear camera and guaranteed and fast updates. The Zenfone 6 is definitely the better value + power, but for my casual use I don't think it matters that much to me now I have it. That said, if I owned neither and had both in front of me I'd probably buy the Zen 6 just because of the better value
E: Biggest downside is not being able to keep films and shows on storage because of the measly 64gb :'(
​I ordered Z6 but after handling it for few hours sent it back and waiting for 3a XL to be delivered.
After so many positive reviews on the hinge mechanism I was disappointed how flimsy and rattle it turned out to be.
Another issue that I guess was decisive was the aosmark - I got burned twice with LG promising timely and long term support for their products (even opened dedicated r&d center) Its ok first few months up until new model comes out and support for the previous years one gets slower and disappears completely. Maybe it wont be that way this time but figured I don't have stomach for that.

Categories

Resources